I missed this question. If performances are both similar, I will look at price next then design. But those 2 areas may be the same. Bc if the design makes it annoying to use I don't want it. I also am very careful with what I buy now. My first device was $595 for a Pico toner, which is MC. I sold it but I lost money on this. I'm never over spending again. I didn't like using it, didn't do enough research before buying it. Now I read, listen to people's videos & learn how a device works, performs, the design before buying
@@michy2630 I think devices are the hardest to shop for - with a skincare product, you usually end up using it in other areas of the body when it won't work for your skin so not all money is lost. But a device that is expensive and collects dust... That hurts.
@@DoctorAnne the new device I am thinking about is radio frequency. But I need to read and listen to more videos about it. I use my led panel & Ziip religiously. Waiting for the NIRA which I know I'll use bc it's fast and easy to use
I really appreciate your take on the devices : to the point, impartial, precise. As much as I’d like to believe the producers’ sales pitch, I really can’t if I hear from a plethora of dermatologists there’s no data to substantiate the claim related to atp production and more. Thank you so much again.
I'm not overly impressed with the ziip. I've found similar results (subtle) from gua sha. What has put me off the company (ziip) is the hype without the evidence in terms of trials. The success of the company warrants some decent trials. Like you I've found little to no papers on nano current on atp, yet they keep saying it's superior. Where are the facts. All I hear are influencers or estheticians repeating the same sales info, but how do they know ? How is it any better than the lymphatic drainage from massage first thing in a morning. I own the ziip and owned previous ems devices, which were a quarter of the price of the ziip. I guess I'm saying I feel conned. I've been running my own experiment and I get equivalent lift from massage
The NuFACE mini did nothing for me. But the full size and using it doing the full face pro treatment I found on TH-cam gives the most amazing results. I did learn that it is important not to over use on the lower face where u feel u should becaus the skin is very lax there but the results come (as with placing fillers and Biostims-up higher on the face and head to give lift to the lower face. As the muscles are only attached to the skin in the lower face and you can actually cause a thickening of the muscles there and make the tissue heavier But using the NuFACE as they state to. Everyday for 60 and then couple xs a week TRULY does give u the result we are trying to achieve Everyone should purchase the NuFACE in my opinion. But I am curious about the adp production the new ziip claims to cause.
Hi there thank you for this in-depth video on the ZIIP. I am interested in the ZIIP because apparently the nano current stimulates collagen in the long term. Would you agree with this. Other devices just offer the micro current. Thanks again
I address this specifically in the video: I have not seen convincing data for this and to me it isn't even clear why nanocurrent should act different than microcurrent.
Great explanation. I have the Ziip. I do love it. I have been using it for 5 months. I need to start taking pictures because I'm not sure if it is working. Love the app and the ease of use.
@@DoctorAnne I tend to do filtered finish and instant grat a lot. I always end with jowls and brows or jowls, brows and forehead or jowls, plump & contour. I'll start with a longer one and then do a few quick programs at the end. I have to take pictures. I love using it but I'm not sure if there's a difference. That's why pics are impt
@@michy2630 To be honest, even in pictures the differences are subtle, but I do notice a general more toned look and I do get a lot more compliments on my skin since using the devices.
Dear @DoctorAnne great video and straight to the point. Can you please give suggestion for generic conduction gel that doesnt break the bank. Thank you 🙏🏻
What about Myolift? Is it stronger? It also comes with gloves that you can wet and no need for conductive gel. And a question: given that current passes through the path with the least amount of resistance, doesn't that imply that when we apply the conductive gel all over the skin, the current passes through the surface of our skin (through the conductive gel) instead of going through the tissue which I assume has higher resistance?
I haven't tried Myolift, so I can't comment on how it compares to the ZIIP, but all at home devices are of similar strength. Your question regarding the current is a good one: tissue resistance is higher, but the highest resistance would be dry skin, so by applying the gel you reduce that so the current can enter the tissue. There surely is some that stays on the surface, but the majority will go into the tissue - as it does with TENS or with ultrasound in a medical setting. If the layer of cundictive gel would be several cm thick, it might flow through that one completely, but the thin layer won't deter it completely - which you can feel by the muscles sometimes involuntarily contracting.
@@DoctorAnne Hi - no, I don't. I hadn't heard of them before seeing your video. My 13 1/2 year old granddaughter has acne. I'm 67. Would you suggest either of these products for a young girl? Thank you 🇨🇦
@@jayceewedmak9524 No, if your granddaughter has acne, the best thing she could do is see a dermatologist and get prescription treatment, she doesn't yet need any of these. At 67 this is something you could consider, but I wouldn't recommend people before their mid30s to even think about these devices.
Are you a dermatologist? I was curious what type of Dr. you are. Also, I noticed too that my Ziip is not always in sync with Melanie. I have asked customer service a lot of question but forgot to ask about this so thank you.
No, I am not a dermatologist. I am an Intensive Care Doctor that switched to Public Health six years ago. I do skincare videos because I struggled with acne since I was 12 and when I started watching TH-cam back in the days, there was rarely a medical professional on here, so I started making videos on that topic.
It is one of the claims they make, but none that is backed up by a lot of data. I didn't notice any changes in skin quality when I started using my NuFace and that didn't change when I used the ZIIP.
Hi. Would you recommend a store to get the devices in Germany? I am wanting to buy them in Croatia but can't find a store that would ship the ZIIP device. Thank you. :) Lovely review.
To be honest, I order a few cheap ones from Amazon and then see how they perform - which one that would be depends on where you live. My current one is from infimedix, but I am not sure if you can get them outside Germany.
Please let me know what you think of this APIS Professional Ultrasound Gel For Acne Skin & Apis Natural Cosmetics Professional Ultrasound Moisturizing Gel for Body (I know that the latter one is for body, but could it be used for the face too, in your opinion?). Thank you
@@viipaa It looks good, but I can't say if it works well from personal experience. And yes, I would assume that the gel for the body could be used on the face as well.
Hi. Sometimes the ZIIP device gives me shocking sensation on my forehead and around my eye area. Is it normal can I keep using it. Just concerned for the way it gives me that sensation.
@@shivanipatnaik3865 The slight shocking sensations can happen in areas that are more sensitive (forehead, eyes) or close to hair. It usually subsides when you use a lower strength and/ or more gel. If it is a real shock though, that is different, what I am referring to is an intense tingle.
@@Kaz-xu5ot Have you used different programs? There are some with higher and lower intensity. But not feeling it doesn't mean it isn't working, everyone has a different sensitivity to these things.
Hi, I was interested in purchasing this, but am always concerned when I hear microcurrrent shouldn't be used on those with cancer. As a doctor, why is this? And what if you have cancer but are not yet aware? As all cancer sufferers will be at some point. Also, is it safe to use with fillings? Many thanks. Suzi
Hi Suzi, great question. As a general rule nothing that stimulates cell proliferation should be used on people with cancer, which is where this recommendation comes from. That doesn't automatically make it dangerous, as cancer is a very broad term and it depends heavily on the location, the type, the stage and so on. As it is impossible to answer that in a way that doesn't require in depth knowledge of the individual persons medical history, you give a general statement that, for further personalization, should be discussed with the individual health care provider. If you are not aware yet that you have cancer, which is obviously a possibility for everyone, it is a personal decision. You can chose to live your live as if you had cancer or as if you were healthy, and make your decision accordingly. I personally don't worry about potential things inside my body, but wouldn't use it on my face if my skin had a lesion that I am not sure is fine, at least not unless I had it checked. Does that help?
Thank you for this. Yes, it definitely does help. I suppose my main concern would be the lymph nodes. There are so many around the neck and I worry about using a regular microcurrent in this area specifically. Thanks again.
This item shocked my face like STRONG static electricity! Reminded me of one of those joke hand zappers but lighter. No matter what I did it shocked me. Also hurt my gum line around my jaw like an infected tooth feels when you press on your face. EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE! ZIIP REFUSED TO REFUND ME AFTER USING TWICE- Because it was opened 😂 😂 😂. Beware
@@DoctorAnne I have seen that comment so many times and yes yes yes like half the bottle. I tried everything and I’m starting to think it’s linked to an old metal filling in my tooth
@@user-iv6ty3cd5i I am sorry you get that question repeatedly, but it is the number 1 mistake. If you think it is the metal filling, have you tried putting your tongue between your cheek and the tooth? That should reduce any problems. If it is enough to make it comfortable, I can't say though.
I have had both and I like ZIIP … now ZIIP is less $ and I have the newer version … I like the idea of the program even if it’s in my head, I believe in that what you create in your head you create in your body …in your life!
Dear Doctor Anne, thanks for the video! I have the Nuface and I’m thinking to buy the Ziip as well. Do you think that this investment worth ? Thanks in advance 😊
This video was very well done. To the point, credible and it helped me move in the direction of the Nuface. I was dead set on the zip but most treatments have had no impact on my face outside of glycolic acid masks. Thank you
The effects of these kind of treatments are much more subtle than the one you get from a peel, but I believe that long term, they will make a difference.
What matters most to you if the performance is similar - design or price?
I missed this question. If performances are both similar, I will look at price next then design. But those 2 areas may be the same. Bc if the design makes it annoying to use I don't want it. I also am very careful with what I buy now. My first device was $595 for a Pico toner, which is MC. I sold it but I lost money on this. I'm never over spending again. I didn't like using it, didn't do enough research before buying it. Now I read, listen to people's videos & learn how a device works, performs, the design before buying
@@michy2630 I think devices are the hardest to shop for - with a skincare product, you usually end up using it in other areas of the body when it won't work for your skin so not all money is lost. But a device that is expensive and collects dust... That hurts.
@@DoctorAnne the new device I am thinking about is radio frequency. But I need to read and listen to more videos about it. I use my led panel & Ziip religiously. Waiting for the NIRA which I know I'll use bc it's fast and easy to use
@@michy2630 If you end up getting it and wouldn't mind, will you report back? I am curious about what you think.
I really appreciate your take on the devices : to the point, impartial, precise. As much as I’d like to believe the producers’ sales pitch, I really can’t if I hear from a plethora of dermatologists there’s no data to substantiate the claim related to atp production and more. Thank you so much again.
Thank you for your kind words. I sometimes wonder if I were happier if I could believe in the marketing, but I guess it is good as it is.
I'm not overly impressed with the ziip. I've found similar results (subtle) from gua sha. What has put me off the company (ziip) is the hype without the evidence in terms of trials. The success of the company warrants some decent trials. Like you I've found little to no papers on nano current on atp, yet they keep saying it's superior. Where are the facts. All I hear are influencers or estheticians repeating the same sales info, but how do they know ? How is it any better than the lymphatic drainage from massage first thing in a morning. I own the ziip and owned previous ems devices, which were a quarter of the price of the ziip. I guess I'm saying I feel conned. I've been running my own experiment and I get equivalent lift from massage
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I have never used a Gua Sha, so I can't compare.
The NuFACE mini did nothing for me. But the full size and using it doing the full face pro treatment I found on TH-cam gives the most amazing results. I did learn that it is important not to over use on the lower face where u feel u should becaus the skin is very lax there but the results come (as with placing fillers and Biostims-up higher on the face and head to give lift to the lower face. As the muscles are only attached to the skin in the lower face and you can actually cause a thickening of the muscles there and make the tissue heavier
But using the NuFACE as they state to. Everyday for 60 and then couple xs a week TRULY does give u the result we are trying to achieve Everyone should purchase the NuFACE in my opinion. But I am curious about the adp production the new ziip claims to cause.
I am glad you have seen such good results.
Super groovy Awesome review ✌️that ziip looks wild ⚡️
Thank you. I agree, it looks futuristic and elegant, I like the design a lot.
Thank you so much for this review. I have a Nuface mini and was going to invest in the Ziip, I guess I'll save my hard earned money. Thanks again Doc!
Always welcome.
What do you think about the FOREO BEAR 2?
I haven't tried it, so I can't comment on it.
Hi there thank you for this in-depth video on the ZIIP. I am interested in the ZIIP because apparently the nano current stimulates collagen in the long term. Would you agree with this. Other devices just offer the micro current. Thanks again
I address this specifically in the video: I have not seen convincing data for this and to me it isn't even clear why nanocurrent should act different than microcurrent.
Great explanation. I have the Ziip. I do love it. I have been using it for 5 months. I need to start taking pictures because I'm not sure if it is working. Love the app and the ease of use.
I love the variety the app gives you, that way it doesn't get boring so easily. Do you have a favorite program you do?
@@DoctorAnne I tend to do filtered finish and instant grat a lot. I always end with jowls and brows or jowls, brows and forehead or jowls, plump & contour. I'll start with a longer one and then do a few quick programs at the end. I have to take pictures. I love using it but I'm not sure if there's a difference. That's why pics are impt
@@michy2630 To be honest, even in pictures the differences are subtle, but I do notice a general more toned look and I do get a lot more compliments on my skin since using the devices.
@@DoctorAnne yes I hear you. I do feel that way right after the treatment and the next day. Also, there is a lifted, fresh feeling right afterwards
@@michy2630 There is indeed
Dear @DoctorAnne great video and straight to the point. Can you please give suggestion for generic conduction gel that doesnt break the bank. Thank you 🙏🏻
That absolutely depends on where you live. I have used the pro relax one from Amazon frequently, but I am not sure it is available everywhere.
@@DoctorAnne thank you for your quick reply.. I checked your other very informative videos and found the exact conductor its already on its way 😉
@@tashtash8834 Very good, I hope you like it.
What about Myolift? Is it stronger? It also comes with gloves that you can wet and no need for conductive gel. And a question: given that current passes through the path with the least amount of resistance, doesn't that imply that when we apply the conductive gel all over the skin, the current passes through the surface of our skin (through the conductive gel) instead of going through the tissue which I assume has higher resistance?
I haven't tried Myolift, so I can't comment on how it compares to the ZIIP, but all at home devices are of similar strength.
Your question regarding the current is a good one: tissue resistance is higher, but the highest resistance would be dry skin, so by applying the gel you reduce that so the current can enter the tissue. There surely is some that stays on the surface, but the majority will go into the tissue - as it does with TENS or with ultrasound in a medical setting. If the layer of cundictive gel would be several cm thick, it might flow through that one completely, but the thin layer won't deter it completely - which you can feel by the muscles sometimes involuntarily contracting.
Thank you, Doctor 😊
You are welcome. Do you have either of them?
@@DoctorAnne Hi - no, I don't. I hadn't heard of them before seeing your video. My 13 1/2 year old granddaughter has acne. I'm 67. Would you suggest either of these products for a young girl? Thank you 🇨🇦
@@jayceewedmak9524 No, if your granddaughter has acne, the best thing she could do is see a dermatologist and get prescription treatment, she doesn't yet need any of these.
At 67 this is something you could consider, but I wouldn't recommend people before their mid30s to even think about these devices.
@@DoctorAnne Your recommendations are very much appreciated, Doctor. I'll have my daughter look into it. ♥ 💐 😊
@@jayceewedmak9524 You are welcome.
Are you a dermatologist? I was curious what type of Dr. you are. Also, I noticed too that my Ziip is not always in sync with Melanie. I have asked customer service a lot of question but forgot to ask about this so thank you.
No, I am not a dermatologist. I am an Intensive Care Doctor that switched to Public Health six years ago. I do skincare videos because I struggled with acne since I was 12 and when I started watching TH-cam back in the days, there was rarely a medical professional on here, so I started making videos on that topic.
@@DoctorAnne excellent. Will look forward to learning more from your videos
@@michy2630 Thank you.
Hi, it's not supposed to be in sync. The maker of the device explains why here...
th-cam.com/video/udbwLd0OjDM/w-d-xo.html
Have you ladies seen any benefits on skin quality? Because I understand that's also a benefit of microcurrent/nanocurrent...
It is one of the claims they make, but none that is backed up by a lot of data. I didn't notice any changes in skin quality when I started using my NuFace and that didn't change when I used the ZIIP.
Hi. Would you recommend a store to get the devices in Germany? I am wanting to buy them in Croatia but can't find a store that would ship the ZIIP device. Thank you. :) Lovely review.
You can try this link: www.currentbody.de/collections/ziip-beauty and add my discount code, it should ship to European countries
Do you have suggestions for generic conductive gels?
To be honest, I order a few cheap ones from Amazon and then see how they perform - which one that would be depends on where you live. My current one is from infimedix, but I am not sure if you can get them outside Germany.
Please let me know what you think of this APIS Professional Ultrasound Gel For Acne Skin & Apis Natural Cosmetics
Professional Ultrasound
Moisturizing Gel for Body (I know that the latter one is for body, but could it be used for the face too, in your opinion?). Thank you
@@viipaa It looks good, but I can't say if it works well from personal experience. And yes, I would assume that the gel for the body could be used on the face as well.
Is it painful to use ZIIP on face? Tks.
No. The maximum I did experience was some mild tingling when my skin was already irritated.
Hi Dr! I had had a cheekbone and jawline surgery done and I have some surgical steel wire (like CPT) where my cheeks. Can I use either Nuface or Ziip?
This is something you need to discuss with your treating doctor.
Can l use both devices? One day use ziip and the next nuface, as l have both devices? Thanks
Of course you can.
Does the nanocurrent hurt luv ? or is completely painless just curious..
No, it doesn't. The most intense feeling I get with this one is prickling on the skin.
Hi. Sometimes the ZIIP device gives me shocking sensation on my forehead and around my eye area. Is it normal can I keep using it. Just concerned for the way it gives me that sensation.
@@shivanipatnaik3865 The slight shocking sensations can happen in areas that are more sensitive (forehead, eyes) or close to hair. It usually subsides when you use a lower strength and/ or more gel. If it is a real shock though, that is different, what I am referring to is an intense tingle.
@@DoctorAnneI can't feel anything at all with the ziip but can with the Nuface, made me wonder if it's working effectively enough.
@@Kaz-xu5ot Have you used different programs? There are some with higher and lower intensity. But not feeling it doesn't mean it isn't working, everyone has a different sensitivity to these things.
Hi, I was interested in purchasing this, but am always concerned when I hear microcurrrent shouldn't be used on those with cancer. As a doctor, why is this? And what if you have cancer but are not yet aware? As all cancer sufferers will be at some point. Also, is it safe to use with fillings? Many thanks. Suzi
Hi Suzi, great question. As a general rule nothing that stimulates cell proliferation should be used on people with cancer, which is where this recommendation comes from.
That doesn't automatically make it dangerous, as cancer is a very broad term and it depends heavily on the location, the type, the stage and so on.
As it is impossible to answer that in a way that doesn't require in depth knowledge of the individual persons medical history, you give a general statement that, for further personalization, should be discussed with the individual health care provider.
If you are not aware yet that you have cancer, which is obviously a possibility for everyone, it is a personal decision. You can chose to live your live as if you had cancer or as if you were healthy, and make your decision accordingly. I personally don't worry about potential things inside my body, but wouldn't use it on my face if my skin had a lesion that I am not sure is fine, at least not unless I had it checked.
Does that help?
Thank you for this. Yes, it definitely does help. I suppose my main concern would be the lymph nodes. There are so many around the neck and I worry about using a regular microcurrent in this area specifically. Thanks again.
@@suziaddison4733 You are welcome.
best than Tripollar？
Tripollar does Radiofrequency, this one is Microcurrent, they work differently, so you can't exactly compare.
@@DoctorAnne no, Tripollar have DMA mode，is lift-up function.
@@CancerJJ I never used the Tripollar (as you can probably tell if I didn't even know it had microcurrent), so I can't say.
This item shocked my face like STRONG static electricity! Reminded me of one of those joke hand zappers but lighter. No matter what I did it shocked me. Also hurt my gum line around my jaw like an infected tooth feels when you press on your face. EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE! ZIIP REFUSED TO REFUND ME AFTER USING TWICE- Because it was opened 😂 😂 😂. Beware
I am really sorry you experienced that. Did you use enough conductive gel?
@@DoctorAnne I have seen that comment so many times and yes yes yes like half the bottle. I tried everything and I’m starting to think it’s linked to an old metal filling in my tooth
@@user-iv6ty3cd5i I am sorry you get that question repeatedly, but it is the number 1 mistake. If you think it is the metal filling, have you tried putting your tongue between your cheek and the tooth? That should reduce any problems. If it is enough to make it comfortable, I can't say though.
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I don't understand, is this a question?
I have had both and I like ZIIP … now ZIIP is less $ and I have the newer version … I like the idea of the program even if it’s in my head, I believe in that what you create in your head you create in your body …in your life!
Oh, you have the ZIIP Halo? It isn't available in Germany yet, but I am excited to see how it compares.
Dear Doctor Anne, thanks for the video! I have the Nuface and I’m thinking to buy the Ziip as well. Do you think that this investment worth ? Thanks in advance 😊
Honestly? No. Both work similar, you don't need two.
@@DoctorAnne Thanks! Have a good night
I'll stay with my Nuface. Thanks!
If it works for you, no need to change it.
What conductive gel do you use?
It varies, whatever I have on hand. Their own are beautiful, but also quite expensive.
This video was very well done. To the point, credible and it helped me move in the direction of the Nuface. I was dead set on the zip but most treatments have had no impact on my face outside of glycolic acid masks. Thank you
The effects of these kind of treatments are much more subtle than the one you get from a peel, but I believe that long term, they will make a difference.
Thank you for the information!
You are welcome. Do you use either of them?
@@DoctorAnne I just purchased the ZIIP. Haven’t received it yet but I will come back to comment in a few months.
@@kasarajaxen5793 I am looking forward to hearing your experiences.