@@allthingstech That is what I do... I am looking at replacing an old Epson Home Cinema projector with this. It is the last in my equipment replacements before I am fully 4K UHD. I already use a Roku 4K (no worries about what the XGimi can do there) thru a 4K receiver and play movies with a Panasonic 4K player. Can't wait!
Single HDMI is not good. BUT I honestly think this and many projectors are designed to be hooked up to an AVR with multiple inputs for a fuller AV experience. Android built-in enables portability,configurability, and adds some flexibility. Although, it has to be said, I have an old 1080p Epson projector that’s has 2 HDMI inputs - so it’s not beyond any tech company to add another port these days.
My dangbei Mars Pro is connected trough my Denon X3800H AVR receiver on the HDMI OUT output #2 and not any issues at all , I'm thinking in upgrade my Dangbei Mars Pro , I will wait for next Black Friday and see if they put a good discount
Can you give us an overview on the day light performance with the 3000ish Lumans? I am thinking of investing into one, but our living room is very lit and would this work good in the day time as well? Thank you
Been living in China for a few years, this model has been out for a couple months here already. Just pulled the plug on it on black friday for 6000 rmb (£650ish), significantly cheaper than in europe. Doesn't have any English, but workable for me, worth the price advantage.
What!!!!!! Thats a an absolute no brainer at that price !! Can it bought be online via chinese sellers to uk ?
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I'd like to connect the Horizon S Max to a AVR (Sony TA-AN1000) where a AppleTV is connected. Will that be a problem? Can I turn on the AppleTV, have it wake up the AVR, that in turns wakes up the projector? I don’t want to use three different remote controls. Preferably just one.
Tought call. On one hand there is not google tv and single hdmi so first thought is to drop it. But it has 21:9 😅 wish you included that in ur vdo , also what about usb hub with hdmi ports ?
I just purchased the Horizon Ultra but getting those annoying light lead, grey border. Is this the same with the s Max or are the black edges infact black?
I might be mistaken but my understanding is (and this is how they made it in previous models) is that there is no keystone correction in game mode. The reason behind that is that if there's no effect/transformation applied to the image the input lag is lower. If there was kestone then every frame would have to be preprocessed and thrown on the wall with a delay hence in some cases the game would be unplayable. Tested original xgimi horizon.
@@Deczkin I have the Horizon Pro, and I can use keystone in game mode with a latency of 35 ms, but I want to upgrade. The Horizon S Max has a low latency mode and an ultra-low latency mode. I need to know the latency in low latency mode (in ms).
Great preview. I was about to pull the trigger on the JMGO N1S Ultimate, how does it compare? I want it to be ultra clear and bright against a white wall, I want the image to encapsulate the largest screen size possible without needing a projector screen as I live in a NYC apartment and it's just not feasable to mount. Thanks!
@@DigitalPlaygroundTV Ty for the response. It's kind of hard to get info because there are hardly any solid reviews on the N1S Ultimate. A lot of pro videos and no comparisons either. I want to make sure I am getting the best value in the high end. Thanks!
I bought JMGO N1s Ultimate and returned it, although a great projector I did not like the laser speckles on my wall, for some people is not noticeable but for me sure it was specially on scenes with white-light colors like subtitles or when watching TH-cam videos
@@NirvaGT Interesting. I have always had OLED tvs, so I am really looking for something as close to that as possible that is portable and works well on just a white wall. I wonder if such a porjector exists -_- Thanks for your input! I am definitely sensitive to artifcats on screens (instantly noticed a dead pixel on my 83 inch G4 and returned it immediately). I have read about laser speckles and that would be very annoying to see while consuming content at 150+ inches.
One thing I really wish XGimi would do on their four-corner correction screen is allow you to see the actual image while adjusting, rather than their circle/pattern thing. I'm hopeless at being able to tell when it's a perfect circle, but the second I go back to something like the home screen, or the Firestick home screen, I can tell instantly due to the interface boxes being 'off'' - this is a very niche preference, I know, but you can do it when zooming (on my Horizon Pro anyway), so I wish you could do it when adjusting. Even as a toggle option.
There is no optical zoom only digital, when fitting the screen do you see keystone shadow? Does keystone shadow exist when screen is smaller than projected light (throw ratio)
Thanks for the review! How does it perform in a daylight lit room? I am considering this to replace my current tv and am curious about your opinion, thanks :)
I have the Horizon Pro, and I can use keystone in game mode with a latency of 35 ms, but I want to upgrade. The Horizon S Max has a low latency mode and an ultra-low latency mode. I need to know the latency in low latency mode (in ms).
Only 1 hdmi? What were they thinking? They got rid of the ethernet connection too! I have the Horizon Ultra and I don’t like the black level. How is it on the S Max?
Hi there, thank you for your very nice reviews. Would you think this device is suitable for Digital Signage and how would it look if projected on glass do you have experience with that? Best regards
With this projector you will have more lumens, that is, it is brighter and even more important, you will have at least twice the contrast, that is, blacker blacks. A detail to keep in mind. With respect to the ultra, you will lose the optical zoom, which is excellent. In this case, unfortunately, Xgimi wanted to reduce costs and does not have it. I had the ultra, but I bought the Chinese version of this s-max, which is the rs 10 ultra, which is superior and different from this version in several aspects.
@@allthingstech thanks. I would love to see them side by side on the wall to have a sort of comparison, for me the brightness is important. I case you are kean to to do a comparison video will be amazing :)
Thanks for the review, I've been waiting for that, as an owner of Horizon Pro and looking to upgrade, The most important question in the last days, how does it compare to Valerion Pro 2? You have them both, what's your opinion on picture quality and contrast, thx
Xgimi lost me at 1 HDMI and Android, You can have Dolby Vision and Imax Enhanced all day long but those first 2 things are kind of a given now that we're going into 2025.
@@GokuInstinct1 ok ,spend a lot more money to solve a minor cost extra for the manufacture 😂....like telling someone with a 32gb iPhone to carry a spare hard drive for music or films 🙈🙈
@@eburyseptember1972 not really. The built in features are always slow anyways. There are cheap 4k Rokus which aren’t much of you can’t afford an Apple TV. Plus you get a better remote.
Excellent review, I have my Xgimi Horizon Ultra and don't think i would upgrade to this one as it may be a little brighter but i would lose out on hdmi inputs etc. Would love to compare to the new Aura 2 as i may upgrade to a short throw one, that would be my main reason.
@@nicolachericoni527 It's already been tested by ProjectorJunkies (which I trust enough), and the numbers do match. Check AVSForum for more info if you'd like.
@@nicolachericoni527 It's already been tested by ProjectorJunkies (which I trust enough), and the numbers do match. Check AVSForum for more info if you'd like.
@@nicolachericoni527 It's already been tested by ProjectorJunkies (which I trust enough), and the numbers do match. Check AVSForum for more info if you'd like.
I went to CEDIA 2024 and saw in person the C2 ULTRA and I think the image quality will be very similar in a real world test despite the specs difference BUT the features push me more towards the C2, I had the chance to experience a C1 vs XGIMI H ULTRA and for my taste the C1 looked better just slightly, I really hope to see a review in this channel of the C2 and even more a comparison with this.
Most people paying £1900 will have a sound bar or av system which have multiple inputs so the need for more hdmi’s in not important . This item looks amazing and if you have the budget then the hdmi really won’t bother you
I think for the money and black levels the hisense c1 is still the one to beat £1300 new currently, massive upgrade over my xgimi horizon, especially the dark scenes...
great review but I wished you would explain how you connect the beamer to your soundbar...and your get around to using Netflix? do you use an Apple TV, and if so, how do you connect it all together?
There are third party apps you can download from the play store which then will allow netflix. Soundbar is connected either via HDMI or you could use a AV amplifier
If you see the video comparing the dangbei to the visionmaster you will be crying. I held off buying a projector after hearing the announcements of this, the visionmaster and the hisense c2
I agree. I was waiting on Jmgo N1S, but the Hisense and Valerion came out with their offerings. Went with the Valerion Max. I have faith in Valerion, as they are the sister companies of AWOL@@davidtaveras31
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They seriously dropped the ball with that single HDMI port!
Agreed, And that is a deal breaker for me. I'm looking for a projector that can play my Blu-rays, with my sound system.
You can get round this with an AV amplifier.
@@allthingstech That is what I do... I am looking at replacing an old Epson Home Cinema projector with this. It is the last in my equipment replacements before I am fully 4K UHD. I already use a Roku 4K (no worries about what the XGimi can do there) thru a 4K receiver and play movies with a Panasonic 4K player. Can't wait!
Single HDMI is not good. BUT I honestly think this and many projectors are designed to be hooked up to an AVR with multiple inputs for a fuller AV experience. Android built-in enables portability,configurability, and adds some flexibility. Although, it has to be said, I have an old 1080p Epson projector that’s has 2 HDMI inputs - so it’s not beyond any tech company to add another port these days.
Not sure how much cost they cut by having only one HDMI port, but most people would want at least 2.
@ it was a strange move for sure.
My dangbei Mars Pro is connected trough my Denon X3800H AVR receiver on the HDMI OUT output #2 and not any issues at all , I'm thinking in upgrade my Dangbei Mars Pro , I will wait for next Black Friday and see if they put a good discount
Can you give us an overview on the day light performance with the 3000ish Lumans?
I am thinking of investing into one, but our living room is very lit and would this work good in the day time as well? Thank you
I second this
I found any ambient lighting does effect this heavily.
Been living in China for a few years, this model has been out for a couple months here already. Just pulled the plug on it on black friday for 6000 rmb (£650ish), significantly cheaper than in europe. Doesn't have any English, but workable for me, worth the price advantage.
What!!!!!! Thats a an absolute no brainer at that price !! Can it bought be online via chinese sellers to uk ?
I'd like to connect the Horizon S Max to a AVR (Sony TA-AN1000) where a AppleTV is connected. Will that be a problem? Can I turn on the AppleTV, have it wake up the AVR, that in turns wakes up the projector? I don’t want to use three different remote controls. Preferably just one.
If you invest 2k in a projector for your home theater, you should invest also in a AVR and a real sound setup so the 1 hdmi is not an issue I think.
I agree, but it would be nice for those just with soundbars to be able to have 1 or 2 more HDMI's
As a lifestyle projector I want it to fit into my lifestyle, not change it.
agree thats why I also own a Denon 8k 3800H 11.2 channel receiver
How do you get the ultrawide screen to work? I bought the s max and I can't seem to see this option or get it to work?
Tought call. On one hand there is not google tv and single hdmi so first thought is to drop it. But it has 21:9 😅 wish you included that in ur vdo , also what about usb hub with hdmi ports ?
I just purchased the Horizon Ultra but getting those annoying light lead, grey border. Is this the same with the s Max or are the black edges infact black?
Does the Horizon S Max also have automatic keystone correction in game mode?
I might be mistaken but my understanding is (and this is how they made it in previous models) is that there is no keystone correction in game mode. The reason behind that is that if there's no effect/transformation applied to the image the input lag is lower. If there was kestone then every frame would have to be preprocessed and thrown on the wall with a delay hence in some cases the game would be unplayable. Tested original xgimi horizon.
@@Deczkin I have the Horizon Pro, and I can use keystone in game mode with a latency of 35 ms, but I want to upgrade. The Horizon S Max has a low latency mode and an ultra-low latency mode. I need to know the latency in low latency mode (in ms).
Please has the contraat got better in this projector?
how does it compare to dangbei dbox02 ?
Been looking for a youtube comparison of the two
Can you compare with valerion
@@jkl89966 will be next week
I ordered on Kickstarter and noticed it's really close in specs and cheaper than Valerion.
Is it native 4k? Is it the S pro also native 4k? It is difficult to find this spec. declared in clear. Thanks
How does it compare with the ultra?
Is it true 4k or its upscale from 1080p to 4k?
how i connect soundbars. is there a ubs to mini-jack adapter?
Great preview. I was about to pull the trigger on the JMGO N1S Ultimate, how does it compare? I want it to be ultra clear and bright against a white wall, I want the image to encapsulate the largest screen size possible without needing a projector screen as I live in a NYC apartment and it's just not feasable to mount.
Thanks!
The JMGO N1S Ultimate is by far the best projector on the market today.
@@DigitalPlaygroundTV Ty for the response. It's kind of hard to get info because there are hardly any solid reviews on the N1S Ultimate. A lot of pro videos and no comparisons either. I want to make sure I am getting the best value in the high end. Thanks!
I bought JMGO N1s Ultimate and returned it, although a great projector I did not like the laser speckles on my wall, for some people is not noticeable but for me sure it was specially on scenes with white-light colors like subtitles or when watching TH-cam videos
@@NirvaGT Interesting. I have always had OLED tvs, so I am really looking for something as close to that as possible that is portable and works well on just a white wall. I wonder if such a porjector exists -_-
Thanks for your input! I am definitely sensitive to artifcats on screens (instantly noticed a dead pixel on my 83 inch G4 and returned it immediately). I have read about laser speckles and that would be very annoying to see while consuming content at 150+ inches.
@@DigitalPlaygroundTV With the speckle definitely not. The Hisense C2 has better contrast and less speckle too.
How are 3D movies on it? SBS and UO?
One thing I really wish XGimi would do on their four-corner correction screen is allow you to see the actual image while adjusting, rather than their circle/pattern thing. I'm hopeless at being able to tell when it's a perfect circle, but the second I go back to something like the home screen, or the Firestick home screen, I can tell instantly due to the interface boxes being 'off'' - this is a very niche preference, I know, but you can do it when zooming (on my Horizon Pro anyway), so I wish you could do it when adjusting. Even as a toggle option.
I'd just use a tape measure to verify the size of the circle.
How does this machine compare to the new JMGO N1S Ultra?
I'll compare to the JMGO Ultimate next week
Is this better than the Horizon Ultra?
There is no optical zoom only digital, when fitting the screen do you see keystone shadow? Does keystone shadow exist when screen is smaller than projected light (throw ratio)
Not when the angle is pretty close to straight on, the more extreme the angle the more noticeable it is.
Thanks for the review! How does it perform in a daylight lit room? I am considering this to replace my current tv and am curious about your opinion, thanks :)
It's pretty bright, it really depends how and where the light is in your room. Some form of light control is advised
Can anyone tell me whether it’s 3D capable,this one or the x max pro ?
Both support 3D (Top and Bottom(Including Frame
Packing) & Side by Side)
I have the Horizon Pro, and I can use keystone in game mode with a latency of 35 ms, but I want to upgrade. The Horizon S Max has a low latency mode and an ultra-low latency mode. I need to know the latency in low latency mode (in ms).
18ms
@@cacciatinteggiatura with keystone?
Thanks for the features.... I m sticking to Valerion Vision Max🔥🔥🔥 It beats xgimi in every aspect.. moreover i m getting it on super earlybird deal ❤
Only 1 hdmi? What were they thinking? They got rid of the ethernet connection too! I have the Horizon Ultra and I don’t like the black level. How is it on the S Max?
Better wait for the horizon max being launched before Christmas that's got all there bells and whistles
Hi there, thank you for your very nice reviews. Would you think this device is suitable for Digital Signage and how would it look if projected on glass do you have experience with that? Best regards
It does support rear projection also, but it would depend on how light the area is.
How does it compare to the Valarion ?
Head to Head comes next week
I bought the XGIMI Horizon Ultra 5 months ago. It is worth the upgrade to this one?
It is noticeably brighter but if you are usually in darker rooms then probably not enough upgrade
I know I'm thinking the same thing I got mine last Christmas
With this projector you will have more lumens, that is, it is brighter and even more important, you will have at least twice the contrast, that is, blacker blacks. A detail to keep in mind. With respect to the ultra, you will lose the optical zoom, which is excellent. In this case, unfortunately, Xgimi wanted to reduce costs and does not have it. I had the ultra, but I bought the Chinese version of this s-max, which is the rs 10 ultra, which is superior and different from this version in several aspects.
@@allthingstech thanks. I would love to see them side by side on the wall to have a sort of comparison, for me the brightness is important. I case you are kean to to do a comparison video will be amazing :)
Thanks for the review, I've been waiting for that, as an owner of Horizon Pro and looking to upgrade,
The most important question in the last days, how does it compare to Valerion Pro 2? You have them both, what's your opinion on picture quality and contrast, thx
@@marc202i I’ll be doing a head to head next week with side by side comparison
@allthingstech excellent thank you !! Subscribed 😉
Xgimi lost me at 1 HDMI and Android,
You can have Dolby Vision and Imax Enhanced all day long but those first 2 things are kind of a given now that we're going into 2025.
Agreed.....a little bit of an oversight 😂😂😂😂
Just connect to a receiver and use a separate smart device like an Apple TV.
@@GokuInstinct1 ok ,spend a lot more money to solve a minor cost extra for the manufacture 😂....like telling someone with a 32gb iPhone to carry a spare hard drive for music or films 🙈🙈
@@eburyseptember1972 not really. The built in features are always slow anyways. There are cheap 4k Rokus which aren’t much of you can’t afford an Apple TV. Plus you get a better remote.
Please help, I’m new to this: what’s the problem with Android TV (compared to Google TV)?
Thanks
Excellent review, I have my Xgimi Horizon Ultra and don't think i would upgrade to this one as it may be a little brighter but i would lose out on hdmi inputs etc. Would love to compare to the new Aura 2 as i may upgrade to a short throw one, that would be my main reason.
I'm on this model too. I don't think there will be much difference. I'll skip this episode.
What happened to the version, XGIMI Horizon Max 3875 Lumen?? Is it going to be released ?
I don't have any info on this sorry.
The auto keystone doesn’t work as smooth as yours. Mine will always show the keystone page first
Very nice video and good explanation. Can you please do a comparison video with Hisense C2 Ultra.
Well after Valerion's vision master series all the others lifestyle projectors seems obsolete.
Same price as the Valerian pro 2 but doesn’t have an optical zoom
You cant compare a kickstarter advertasing with an on market, testable, product.
@@nicolachericoni527 It's already been tested by ProjectorJunkies (which I trust enough), and the numbers do match. Check AVSForum for more info if you'd like.
@@nicolachericoni527 It's already been tested by ProjectorJunkies (which I trust enough), and the numbers do match. Check AVSForum for more info if you'd like.
@@nicolachericoni527 It's already been tested by ProjectorJunkies (which I trust enough), and the numbers do match. Check AVSForum for more info if you'd like.
Please do a comparison with the JMGO N1S Pro🙂
Can you review the Hisense C2? 🙏🏽
Hoping to get one in a few weeks
I went to CEDIA 2024 and saw in person the C2 ULTRA and I think the image quality will be very similar in a real world test despite the specs difference BUT the features push me more towards the C2, I had the chance to experience a C1 vs XGIMI H ULTRA and for my taste the C1 looked better just slightly, I really hope to see a review in this channel of the C2 and even more a comparison with this.
@@allthingstech amazing, when you have it compare it to the valerion master and xgimi horizon s max plz
Most people paying £1900 will have a sound bar or av system which have multiple inputs so the need for more hdmi’s in not important . This item looks amazing and if you have the budget then the hdmi really won’t bother you
I think for the money and black levels the hisense c1 is still the one to beat £1300 new currently, massive upgrade over my xgimi horizon, especially the dark scenes...
9:20 110% bt.2020 WHAT?
great review but I wished you would explain how you connect the beamer to your soundbar...and your get around to using Netflix? do you use an Apple TV, and if so, how do you connect it all together?
There are third party apps you can download from the play store which then will allow netflix. Soundbar is connected either via HDMI or you could use a AV amplifier
against JMGO Ultimate?
I will be doing a comparison video next week also with the Valerion.
@@allthingstechwaiting for the comparison videp
if compare to the specs the valerion pro 2 is clearly winning... but please we want to see the head to head fair comparison!
Will be next week
NO 3D COMPAITBLE?
Just bought the dangbei DBOX02 and now im feel about gutted!
If you see the video comparing the dangbei to the visionmaster you will be crying. I held off buying a projector after hearing the announcements of this, the visionmaster and the hisense c2
I agree. I was waiting on Jmgo N1S, but the Hisense and Valerion came out with their offerings. Went with the Valerion Max. I have faith in Valerion, as they are the sister companies of AWOL@@davidtaveras31
Only one hdmi port, ill keep my horizon pro for a bit longer and save the £800 upgrade cost.
How do these projector manufacturers continue to drop the ball using Android OS 11 in 2024?!
No google TV, No optical zoom. In 2024, at this price point... Are you kidding me XGIMI?
The S pro model at$1300 might be worth it. Maybe down a few hundred at Black friday.
@@brucesmith1754 looking forward to Horizon Ultra get more discount.
It has the grey border, from the key stone correction. It is a big NO.
Only noticeable when at an extreme angle.
Juanita Circle
For that price, with one HDMI port is insane, makes no sense, not worth it period
No Google TV lol skip
Why not just connect something better? I’m gonna use my Apple TV paired with this. The built in smart features always suck on any projector or tv.
XGMI contrast numbers are completely false ! this is their weak spot and they don't seem to have improved !
Oh no, really? I was hoping the IMAX certification meant they finally fixed the weakest point...
1 hdmi ?!😂 useless
Utter garbage sorry don't like it
What screen was this
100” VAVA alr.
Hello…they done it again!😮❤🫶🏻🥰😍🇬🇧