@@Marcel1979K As I understand it, some friends or family members passed away, and he (and his wife) started caring for their kids. It's quite sad, but I've also nothing but respect for him for taking on the responsibility.
"Advertised for documents, guns, and jewelry..... sticker inside, informing the user not to store firearms" Queue David Attenborough voice: and here we see, the natural result of a marketing major intern, and a somewhat competent liability lawyer both giving input without communicating to one another. Truly a prime example.
@@highpath4776 I think a firearm uses combustion (fire) to launch the projectile. A gun 🔫 can even be a squirt gun or use compressed air. At least my guess to the difference. So, my spring powered airsoft gun can be stored in the safe and a flintlock musket firearm may not be stored. Maybe a silencer or large explosive devices are firearms too.
@@cyalknight the only things I call guns are artillery pieces that fire on a relatively low trajectory. I wouldn't be trying to put one of those in a little lockbox like this! 😂
@@shamancredible8632 this implies that he has none. Because if he did the security of this device would insure they would be easily accessible to the world with but a paper clip. Try harder bot.
That is bad? It seems like safes with multiple opening methods can have a security issue with *any* of the methods and it is bad. With only one way to open there are fewer ways to attack it. It would be nice to have a way to externally power it in case the battery dies.
@@AlanHerrlich the "joke" is that the creators only designed it to work 1 intended way, but with the lack of effort in designing it, they've added extra ways of opening it.
my first thought when i heard that line was hes gunna use a magnet probably. after the actual method i realized i gave that box far more credit than it deserved.
The new Covert Instruments package will not include professional tools, but an assortment of paper clips, butter knives, forks, and trimmed red bull cans and orange juice bottles. All the tools needed to access many of the world's most common locks and safes
I taught myself to pick locks during the pandemic lockdowns using pretty much just paperclips, bits of aluminium cans and some bent bits of metal I found lurking around my office from old computers, laptops etc. really good fun 'hacking' them
I love how product liability has become such a joke that it’s fine to advertise something as appropriate for a purpose and then put a warning on the product that says it isn’t for that purpose. Amazon really needs some regulatory smack down.
@@TheAllAroundMan Aye, a cease & desist to all the people who have bought one. "Kindly cease and desist using our product to protect anything of any value whatsoever." 🤣
There is zero excuse for this, a simple logic circuit that would stop the code change button from functioning if the thing is locked is all it takes to fix it, even if you can reach the button it wouldn't do anything.
I am willing to bet it's by design, and it's basically a suggested workaround in case you forget the combination, and want to open it anyway. As for your suggestion, it might be easier to protect the button with something, making it impossible to reach.
Last digital lock I had like this needed you to press the button, enter the current code, then press the button again, enter the new code, and press the button the final time to save. It was an annoying process, but it worked and requiring you to enter the current code to change it feels like the bare minimum effort you should put in.
They could also just you know, position the reset button in a better spot like in the inner wall making it excessively hard to push using a wire from outside
I'm wondering if a bit of hot melt glue in the hole would mitigate this attack? But I'm sure if there was this glaring of an oversight, what others does it have?
@@thewilldickerson Yeah... all they had to do was have a little snap in cover over the hole that can't be removed while the top is closed... But honestly they probably had this feature like this because they WANTED this vulnerability. (because there is no backup key to open the lock, the company probably has a special 'tool' that they use to reset the lock). They didn't think it through enough to realist that a paperclip can do the same job. Idiots. Overall though... I'd say it's probably a decent buy if you don't mind getting out your hot glue gun.
Yes, the original puropse is of no use nowadays, there are paperless offices. Nowadays paperclips are handy for jamming up the scanner for legacy documents still not scanned and to reset devices like mobile phones (or open the SIM-tray of the phone) throught the tiny hole. And they open some safes, apparently.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the last video was published three weeks ago! because a lock from works by design arrived and ruined his career! 😅 the man is such a perfectionist that even after three weeks he is locked in the workshop trying to pick the lock and refuses to do anything else! I hope that one day you will get out, but that the defeat you will carry on your shoulder will make you a better and stronger person! I can't wait for the video
I have a sentry firesafe. For some unknown reason, the nutters at Sentry put a combination lock and an Ace key on it. All it needed was a simple spring latch. It's a fireproof box. It's not robust enough to be an actual safe.
It's remarkable how many poorly made lock products LPL has made us aware of. Sadly we are surrounded by equally weak products in all facets of our lives, appliances, tools, furnishings and lots more.
All you have to do is be savvy when making said purchases. Everything in life can’t be perfect. And the dumb junk suits the main bulk of the population.
When I was a kid my parents would buy the best they could afford, take care of it and have it repaired if it broke. They instilled those values in me. Now, you buy one up from the cheapest with the expectation it will break and it cannot be repaired. Disgraceful. 💩 in,💩out. No quality and very little pride in manufacturing.
@@christophersamuelson451 I've been a fixer my whole life. If it had a plug, gears, valve, pump, hinges or whatever I was always ready to bring it back to life. Cheap solid state circuitry, touch pads and bells and whistles was the beginning of the end. Always hard to explain to a friend that replacement parts for a 4 year old dishwasher are no longer made...
Of course that worked. You bent the paperclip into an "S" and you gained "entry". They even wrote "S entry" on the label so you'd know how to get in the safe.
Honestly, they're both in the same section of the market where quality is less important than price point and shelf space (or in this case, showing at the top of Amazon results).
@@cool110 I wasn't sure if you were joking or not. Google informs me that you are not. It all makes sense now - it's almost like MasterLock go out of their way to make crappy products 🤣
After watching your channel for years, I've come to the conclusion that if a thief, who's watched your channel, ever comes to my house to steal anything, my valuables would be safer hidden in a flower pot than in any safe or place secured by a lock. Keep up the great videos.
Get a safe like that, inside put a trollface with note "do U think I'm that stupid?" and any thief will be confused enough. They may even leave, because they will feel that something weird is going on.
Silver lining, most of the things he notes about lock failures have to do with skilled or knowledge based weaknesses. Things thieves generally lack. Glass windows on the ground floor are a bigger weakness than the security level of your deadbolt.
@@thepiperpie I rebuilt my entry locks with a couple dollars worth of parts and some minutes of my time. I could buy Military Secure facility grade Medico locks, but that would be dumb. I have windows, and the walls are just plywood and sheetrock.
They can spin this as a feature: "Forgot your combination? No problem! Just insert one end of an unfolded paperclip and PRESTO, you can change the combination!"
"I'd consider this lock design malpractice, were there such a thing." I guess he's saying that laws governing implied warranty don't apply here. Sounds like a video subject for LegalEagle, because I'd sure like to see the topic covered in depth.
@@gw6667 try searching for what LegalEagle gets wrong? I remember three different attorneys all making videos regarding one of his. Most of lawtube just tries to forget he exists unless it's completely egregious
Use an opaque Tupperware container, label it Spare Computer Cables, and put it on an upper shelf. Thieves can amuse themselves stealing the portable safe instead.
this channel proves you dont need a 10min intro 10min talk about the item making a short video 20min like most people do, straight to the point. Love that, keep up the lock picking!
@@bikeny WTF is it with people putting music behind all their vids? It's most great when they have the voice at 80 db and the music at 89db. WTF did he just say?
Why do safes like this not have a lip seal like sandwich containers? Using the method shown in the video would be much more difficult if there was an obstruction blocking access to the code change button
When a sandwich box has better security than a safe, something is wrong. Also, I'm not sure if this safe is waterproof. That would be a nice thing if I store papers in it.
@@simonspacek3670 I worry about flooding and certainly wouldn't trust my papers to this. And I can find better looking jewelry boxes with as little security. But yeah, I even doubt the heat resistance with that opening.
You just saved them a lot of money. Great solution. Email them! An extruded plastic lip that surrounds the reset hole that mates to a recess in the lid, or vice versa. Genius.
LPL! Have you gotten the "unpickable" lock from Works By Design yet? 😅 I'm so curious what you think. Even though I have a sneaky suspicion you'll finesse that lock, _somehow._ ^^
Equal Employment Opportunity. Unqualified people risen to above their level of ability. Lock design, computer programmers, persons elected to govern you, ....
they figure more people would be mad at not being able to get in the safe after they forgot their code than would be mad when LPL breaks in and steals all their docs
@@bermchasin Doesn‘t matter, it‘s fairly easy to break open. I suspect that it is too small and thin to keep its contents cool enough for a longer period anyway.
I'm sure the thought was "no one will download the instructions online to know how to change the code if they don't own it". Because lock designers are designing a lock, not thwarting those who'd open a lock.
0:19 - You know there's been lawyers involved when a manufacturer includes a sticker changing the description/expectation.The password reset button working when the unit is locked is sheer lunacy. 🙄
Naysayers Harumph!! All great personalities need a Foil! What would LPL be without SentrySafe? Or MasterLock? Jack Benny? Rochester. Johnny Carson? Ed McMahon. You get the idea.
Just put enough duct tape around the item you want to be protected. LPL did spend more time in removing duct tape in the past, than opening that lock or any of master locks crappy paper weights.
Zip Ties are really easy to unlock. Just jam a small knife point or pen into the outside end that runs over the notches. You can hold the locking bit up and just un-zip the tie. The bigger and heavier the Zip Tie the easier it is. Also you get a free Zip Tie out of it. Probably the best way to take of zip ties.
I bought my gun safe (VAULTEK) after watching your videos. Thanks for reviewing so many locks. I know the bulk of your videos are what locks not to buy. Occasionally you come out with a “not bad” or “ok for use” one.
Makes me think it should be criminal to be so bad. Something along the lines of "Negligent property endangerment". The team that designed, made and marketed this product should all stand trial and many of them should see the inside of a cell. When they do, they might actually learn something about security so they should see it as free education.
@@ragtowne Does it even matter where the item is made when the engineer is the same, the blueprints are the same, and QA is the same? Let's blame the real culprit here.
@@DinnerForkTongue I think where an item is made can have a significant impact on the quality - for example I find a lot of products whose production was moved to China have much poorer quality than before so moving production from the United States to Mexico could affect the quality of master lock products - it’s not an indictment of people but rather the source materials used and the manufacturing processes implemented - after all the move was probably done to “save money” during the manufacturing process.
@@ragtowne You speak the truth on quality, but the theme was design, not construction. Extending that idea, would I interject "item could use a drainage hole for liquids"
@@ragtowne Again, that's outsourcing the cheap way (purely to please shareholders at the expense of everything else) and QA being sloppy. Not a matter of production origin. China for example (since it's currently the planet's industrial heartland) can and does make excellent products, _as long as_ you hire them to make excellent products and not garbage on the cheap.
It's alarming that such a costly and presumably secure product has such a glaring flaw. A wake-up call for consumers to consider before investing in such products.
Jeebus, it would be trivial to have a sliding metal plate pushed over while opened that would cover the reset port, blocking a paperclip attack. Sad to see Clippy fired by Microsoft led into a life of crime..
To protect documents from flood, I would think at least there should be some rubber seals around the edges though. And by doing so, maybe it can also block the access to the passkey changing hole?
Your channel's continued prosperity is not only a sign that burglary is as popular as yesteryear, but mostly that your amazing content continues serving the customer and forcing companies to do the same.
Speaking as someone that lost THOUSANDS of dollars slowly over the course of a year to the non-electronic key based Sentry Safe, where the thief just went out and bought their own, and they keys it comes with work on any of the same model safes, YEAH, I have to agree.
everyone youtubes everything so a quick search and you are in! for example I went to visit someone in the hospital and they needed access to the safe in the room and no one was helping so I googled found master password and opened it. so its no excuse anymore also a magnet would probably work on this junk
I would assume anyone can look up the instructions on how to reset code. I also assume the box comes with a tool for doing so. I do not deal with locks AT ALL. How about a simple... Don't let this happen when box is locked, for starters.
@@buckiesmalls this lock knows nothing about box state. After you put proper code it unlocks, then wait few seconds, and lock itself again (listen to noise @0:54). Same procedure no mater if you opened box or not. So there is no way, without adding another switch, to block change pin button when lid is closed. But it could be easily prevented mechanical way. Or just by moving this button in hard to reach place, or by adding to lid some kind of notch to cover button.
@@tomaszstaz6295 You said a bunch of nothing. Make that make sense. Box state? When I say box I am talking about the entire unit. "After you put proper code it unlocks," Yeah that how code locks work??? Defending this is weird.
Just saw an ad for the Stopbox. Claims to be a quick one hand access for a gun but still robust enough to frustrate a curious kid into not cracking it open. This needs a test.
I thought so too. It looked like no care at all was taken for that. May I suggest a Pelican case? Totally waterproof (they even come with advertised flotation ratings, in pounds of capacity) and many of them come with locks, padlock hasps, or both.
Requirements are redundant, design is not needed, testing is too expensive, just ship it right now! Many developers (certainly software engineers!) will recognize the legendary work ethic of digital age right away.
I can see that this safe was designed with cost heavily in mind. 1. The control logic is probably very simple: * If the user inputs the PIN matching the stored PIN, activate the latch release. Add timeout to clear ongoing PIN entry in case PIN entry reattempt is necessary for legitimate user. This safe doesn't seem to have a door open / close switch. If so, it doesn't know if the door is opened / closed and it doesn't care either. * If the user presses the program button, accept the upcoming PIN input, store the user input as new PIN. With the simple logic, you can significantly reduce controller development and controller cost. I hope this safe has a retry timeout logic to prevent bruteforce attempts. 2. The program button is likely edge mounted on the PCB that's facing the membrane buttons. You might notice how close the program button is in relation to the PIN keys. Running wires to locate the button in a more secure location increases parts / labor cost. 3. There are only 5 keys rather than 10 keys for the PIN entry. Fewer keys means less cost for membrane keys. Each of the keys are labeled with two decimal digits to give the illusion of support of 0-9 digits for PIN. There are 5 ^ 6 or 15625 possible PINs. A four digit PIN would only yield 5 ^ 4 or 625 possible PINs.
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"I am going to use this paperclip that BosnianBill and I designed"
Where did BosnianBill disappeared?
@@c20ux He wants to have more time with his family.
You can find it over at covert instruments as part of the genesis set.
@@Marcel1979K In Bosnia.
@@Marcel1979K
As I understand it, some friends or family members passed away, and he (and his wife) started caring for their kids.
It's quite sad, but I've also nothing but respect for him for taking on the responsibility.
'I see you are trying to open a lockbox - Would you like some help with that?' - Clippy
Wait until Clippy becomes sentient and powerful, we all won't be laughing then.
@@jimmyzhao2673 Doesn't seem like you do a lot of laughing anyways
@@mugoftoothpaste1507 pretty sure that was just joking back...?
@@mugoftoothpaste1507 So you like your coffee... minty?
The only time Clippy was useful
Once you find out that SentrySafe is just a sub-brand of Master Lock, suddenly it all makes sense.
Wait. Is it actually or is this sarcasm?
You can find out in 5 seconds yourself
@@solidoxygen7873just answer the fucking question instead of being cocky
@@risky8811you can find out in 5 seconds yourself
To answer on this genuinely, it is, MasterLock is the direct parent company lmao
"Advertised for documents, guns, and jewelry..... sticker inside, informing the user not to store firearms" Queue David Attenborough voice: and here we see, the natural result of a marketing major intern, and a somewhat competent liability lawyer both giving input without communicating to one another. Truly a prime example.
Or an example where the directions make no sense, but need to be put it in, maybe for liability reasons.
@@cyalknight Will Steve Lehto tell us the legal difference between a Gun and a Firearm?
@@highpath4776 I think a firearm uses combustion (fire) to launch the projectile. A gun 🔫 can even be a squirt gun or use compressed air. At least my guess to the difference.
So, my spring powered airsoft gun can be stored in the safe and a flintlock musket firearm may not be stored.
Maybe a silencer or large explosive devices are firearms too.
@@cyalknight the only things I call guns are artillery pieces that fire on a relatively low trajectory. I wouldn't be trying to put one of those in a little lockbox like this! 😂
The Amazon listing was probably written by a retailer, not the manufacturer.
One day he’ll just stare at a lock with a dissapointed face and the lock will open put of pure pressure
😂😂
Darth Vader Voice: You have failed me for the last time Master lock.
McNally style
He's already opened locks without physically touching them in a video where he used a magnet to trigger a relay in an electronic door lock
Thanos Snap.
Welp another day, another useless lock.
How is it useless? You can easily use it to dispose of any documents, jewelry and small firearms you don't want to keep anymore for what ever reason.
@@anteshellit’s a slightly inconvenient trash bin
Useful for Sentry Safe to make some money with.
Why bother having a good lock when someone can literally pick up and walk the thing away?
Another day, another Doug.
Ahh. Finally, a nice, secure waterproof safe for my precious MasterLock collection.
Yeah. "waterproof" XD
its where zelensky hides his private pics
It's owned by masterlock too. It's all coming together now
@@shamancredible8632 this implies that he has none. Because if he did the security of this device would insure they would be easily accessible to the world with but a paper clip.
Try harder bot.
If can't even stop a paperclip how is it going to stop water?
When LPL uses a "Point & Laugh" emoji, you'd best fire your entire R&D team.
Assuming there is one.
@@dikkie1000 Usually the R&d team is okay, but the bean counters get in their way.
@@dikkie1000 Not this one, these are rebranded straight from some Chinese factory.
“The lock has only one DESIGNED opening method…”
Oh boy…
That is bad? It seems like safes with multiple opening methods can have a security issue with *any* of the methods and it is bad. With only one way to open there are fewer ways to attack it. It would be nice to have a way to externally power it in case the battery dies.
@@AlanHerrlich the "joke" is that the creators only designed it to work 1 intended way, but with the lack of effort in designing it, they've added extra ways of opening it.
my first thought when i heard that line was hes gunna use a magnet probably. after the actual method i realized i gave that box far more credit than it deserved.
@@rezuredragon Doh, yes... thanks "designed" is the key word as even highlighted!
To be honest, I expected more than one alternative to be presented.
The new Covert Instruments package will not include professional tools, but an assortment of paper clips, butter knives, forks, and trimmed red bull cans and orange juice bottles. All the tools needed to access many of the world's most common locks and safes
Don't forget the Lego man !!!
@@androiddave1276 ah yes, the best way to defeat a trigger lock!
But it does need to include a wave rake.
@@cpovey1 naturally 😉
I taught myself to pick locks during the pandemic lockdowns using pretty much just paperclips, bits of aluminium cans and some bent bits of metal I found lurking around my office from old computers, laptops etc. really good fun 'hacking' them
I love how product liability has become such a joke that it’s fine to advertise something as appropriate for a purpose and then put a warning on the product that says it isn’t for that purpose.
Amazon really needs some regulatory smack down.
Amazon is a though shipper the individual companies are the ones the regulators need to crack down on.
A raised edge..... A RAISED EDGE! Around the reset button is all this needed.
or putting the reset button on the inside face of the box
But but but… that would cost an extra $0.05 to manufacture… impossible
Stop giving them ideas! They'd get the raised edge wrong somehow.
Or a simple plug in the existing hole. 😊
Sentry exec: “How long is the video?”
Employee: “2:29”
Sentry exec: “Shred everything!”
More like
Sentry exec: "Quick, send a cease and desist!"
@@TheAllAroundMan Aye, a cease & desist to all the people who have bought one. "Kindly cease and desist using our product to protect anything of any value whatsoever." 🤣
I feel like I'll click on a LPL video faster the shorter it is 🤣🤣🤣
Nah. An engineer might have that reaction. Executives would be more like: "Meh. How badly could someone discredit us in that short amount of time?"
@@timward4301 tonnes LMAO
There is zero excuse for this, a simple logic circuit that would stop the code change button from functioning if the thing is locked is all it takes to fix it, even if you can reach the button it wouldn't do anything.
I am willing to bet it's by design, and it's basically a suggested workaround in case you forget the combination, and want to open it anyway. As for your suggestion, it might be easier to protect the button with something, making it impossible to reach.
Last digital lock I had like this needed you to press the button, enter the current code, then press the button again, enter the new code, and press the button the final time to save.
It was an annoying process, but it worked and requiring you to enter the current code to change it feels like the bare minimum effort you should put in.
An even more simple barrier around the button or the opening to stop this paperclip attack. Just a bit of molding. My god, it's so useless.
It would require another sensor, costing them $ per unit
They could also just you know, position the reset button in a better spot like in the inner wall making it excessively hard to push using a wire from outside
The positive thing is that it is a good safe for people that easily forget their codes.
Excited to see you pick the lock "Works By Design" sent to you 🙂
Wow, they even beveled the opening of the reset hole to make it easier to get the paperclip in. That was so thoughtful of them.
I'm wondering if a bit of hot melt glue in the hole would mitigate this attack? But I'm sure if there was this glaring of an oversight, what others does it have?
@@thewilldickerson It the end user has to change the product to make it work/safe it is a garbage product
@@thewilldickerson Yeah... all they had to do was have a little snap in cover over the hole that can't be removed while the top is closed...
But honestly they probably had this feature like this because they WANTED this vulnerability. (because there is no backup key to open the lock, the company probably has a special 'tool' that they use to reset the lock). They didn't think it through enough to realist that a paperclip can do the same job. Idiots.
Overall though... I'd say it's probably a decent buy if you don't mind getting out your hot glue gun.
It's not like the hole could be taped over with a piece of electrical tape. Oh, no..
@@MrPir84free a paperclip can pierce through that with ease, dont find dumb ways to fix problems the producer should have fixed.
Lawyers for Sentry have begun the process to sue paperclips as a unlawful safe picking tool and demand they are removed from the market.
Lmfao no way thats incredible
2014 Master Lock bought Sentry Safe
That may happen in Canada
YES !! Google reports: SentrySafe is a brand of safes manufactured in Rochester, New York. It is owned by the Master Lock Company.
@@javierpaz7954 And Trudeau will give a smarmy speech chiding Canadians to 'Learn from this and to all do better'
Whos here from the unpickable lock 2.0 video that works by design made?!?!
LPL: "For advanced pen testing, I've made a key copying kit."
Also LPL: "So, we grab a paperclip..."
Ah, the humble paperclip. 📎 Invented in 1890, and still doing more than it was designed for some 134 years later
Paper clip doesn't need a sequel. Paper clip will outlive humanity
I think by this point, most people have already forgotten what its original purpose was.
I'm waiting for the lock LPL opens with Clippy!
I've seen that video suggestion too. I will not click it.
Yes, the original puropse is of no use nowadays, there are paperless offices. Nowadays paperclips are handy for jamming up the scanner for legacy documents still not scanned and to reset devices like mobile phones (or open the SIM-tray of the phone) throught the tiny hole. And they open some safes, apparently.
Someone should report the Amazon listing for mentioning firearm safe. That's inexcusable.
Maybe it's intended for non firearm guns? 😅
@@bosstowndynamics5488 How do I store my 💪 in there?
@@bosstowndynamics5488 perfect for my Super Soaker 2000 right in time for summer!
@@Jehty_ Next Halloween, you should make cardboard "safes" to wear around your biceps and write "gunsafe" prominently on each. 🤣
@@Jehty_ Cut two holes and wear it like water wings?
MS Paperclip - “Looks like you are trying to get into a safe. Can I help?”
MS Paperclip today: Looks like you are trying to hide something in a encrypted file. I’m storing that content and password plaintext on our servers.
You know it’s bad when LPL puts a “🔒👈😂” in the thumbnail.
LPL: "Let's give that a moment for the code to set..."
All Master Locks in a 20 meter radius: *sweating profusely*
*rusting
lmao
All *other Master Locks in the vicinity . Sentry = Master = American .
It would have been funny if he used that time to pick a Master lock, just for fun.
@@seanj3667 lol that would've been hilarious
I have a radical idea for manufacturers of products like these: have somebody test them.
Have the Lockpicking Lawyer test them.
They tested it with someone who forgot the code. This honestly looks like a bypass feature.
@@roccobierman4985 with this safe they could use a chimp
lot of the locks now a days are more for a law purpose.
me personally, i only have them so i dont get the smash n grab kind of theft of my items.
that would mean designing them in the first place. I'm sure they're just importing someone else's product from a foreign country relabeled
I don't think it's a coincidence that the last video was published three weeks ago! because a lock from works by design arrived and ruined his career! 😅 the man is such a perfectionist that even after three weeks he is locked in the workshop trying to pick the lock and refuses to do anything else!
I hope that one day you will get out, but that the defeat you will carry on your shoulder will make you a better and stronger person!
I can't wait for the video
I have a sentry firesafe. For some unknown reason, the nutters at Sentry put a combination lock and an Ace key on it. All it needed was a simple spring latch. It's a fireproof box. It's not robust enough to be an actual safe.
Seems reasonable to put a lock on it. It deters casual snooping, which is not nothing.
@@beeble2003 Then a masterlock on a hasp and loop is more than adequate. The combination lock is just bloody pretentious.
Schrodinger's box. Only after opening it is known that the weapon cannot be stored.
Aaaaahahahaha!!!!!
Of course not. You don't want the cat to be armed.
@@Merennulli Cats have OE claws and teeth, and after being kept in a box he *will* use them.
@@johnpublic6582 Exactly. The only thing worse would be if you gave the cat a ranged weapon.
@@Merennulli It is a distinct possibility that cats don't keep pet people precisely because they don't have range weapons.
It's remarkable how many poorly made lock products LPL has made us aware of. Sadly we are surrounded by equally weak products in all facets of our lives, appliances, tools, furnishings and lots more.
All you have to do is be savvy when making said purchases. Everything in life can’t be perfect. And the dumb junk suits the main bulk of the population.
When I was a kid my parents would buy the best they could afford, take care of it and have it repaired if it broke. They instilled those values in me. Now, you buy one up from the cheapest with the expectation it will break and it cannot be repaired. Disgraceful. 💩 in,💩out. No quality and very little pride in manufacturing.
@@christophersamuelson451
I've been a fixer my whole life. If it had a plug, gears, valve, pump, hinges or whatever I was always ready to bring it back to life. Cheap solid state circuitry, touch pads and bells and whistles was the beginning of the end. Always hard to explain to a friend that replacement parts for a 4 year old dishwasher are no longer made...
Of course that worked. You bent the paperclip into an "S" and you gained "entry". They even wrote "S entry" on the label so you'd know how to get in the safe.
How thoughtful of them to chamfer the opening of the reset hole.
Video under three minutes, going to be more of the usual!
Since SentrySafe is a subsidiary of Masterlock we all know what this REALLY is... an attempt to make Masterlock look better by comparison.
Honestly, they're both in the same section of the market where quality is less important than price point and shelf space (or in this case, showing at the top of Amazon results).
It's a step up from the "push the locking lug aside with a lockpick" I was expecting.
I see you have an unpickable lock coming your way.
Sentry....This should be a comical one lol
They should put looney tunes sticker on it
Sentry is a brand that sells at Staples. Ever buy an office chair at Staples? It's all the usual mediocre consumer products.
@@TesserId It's worse, they're a division of MasterLock.
@@cool110 I wasn't sure if you were joking or not. Google informs me that you are not. It all makes sense now - it's almost like MasterLock go out of their way to make crappy products 🤣
Forced Sentry?
After watching your channel for years, I've come to the conclusion that if a thief, who's watched your channel, ever comes to my house to steal anything, my valuables would be safer hidden in a flower pot than in any safe or place secured by a lock. Keep up the great videos.
The safe could probably still be useful for a bit of misdirection, could buy you an extra 7 or 8 seconds.
Get a safe like that, inside put a trollface with note "do U think I'm that stupid?" and any thief will be confused enough. They may even leave, because they will feel that something weird is going on.
@@simonspacek3670 Or have a locked smaller safe inside. Repeat as far as possible. Keep the thief busy lol.
Silver lining, most of the things he notes about lock failures have to do with skilled or knowledge based weaknesses. Things thieves generally lack. Glass windows on the ground floor are a bigger weakness than the security level of your deadbolt.
@@thepiperpie I rebuilt my entry locks with a couple dollars worth of parts and some minutes of my time. I could buy Military Secure facility grade Medico locks, but that would be dumb. I have windows, and the walls are just plywood and sheetrock.
This is the only channel I enjoy where the shorter the upload, the more I enjoy it
They can spin this as a feature:
"Forgot your combination? No problem! Just insert one end of an unfolded paperclip and PRESTO, you can change the combination!"
And then sell the "paperclip" for an additional $15...😅😂
@@drath5679 right... but they have to call the paperclip something like an "emergency access tool".
"I'd consider this lock design malpractice, were there such a thing." I guess he's saying that laws governing implied warranty don't apply here. Sounds like a video subject for LegalEagle, because I'd sure like to see the topic covered in depth.
It might be a fun legal discussion but LegalEagle is only worth watching if you want to explain how he gets the law wrong.
That would be one helluva collab!
Warranty isn't really LegalEagle's domain. If you wanna see a collab on that, get Steve Lehto on it.
@@quelrodsHow does LegalEagle get the law wrong?
@@gw6667 try searching for what LegalEagle gets wrong? I remember three different attorneys all making videos regarding one of his. Most of lawtube just tries to forget he exists unless it's completely egregious
I'm here waiting for the new lock from locks by design.
I check in on this channel once every couple years. Very glad to see that absolutely nothing has changed. Love you Mr. LPL
So a tupperware container with elastic bands around it would be harder to get in to.
depends on the number of rubber bands XD
Did you ever accidentally snap yourself with the elastic while taking it off? Ouch!
Use an opaque Tupperware container, label it Spare Computer Cables, and put it on an upper shelf. Thieves can amuse themselves stealing the portable safe instead.
Meanwhile at MasterLock; “Phew! That’s not one of ours! Oh, wait a moment, we own Sentry 😫”
this actually explains.. well, everything
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Me here 8 mins after watching Works By Design vid to see if LPL got it yet....🤓🤓
Have you picked up 'works by design' pickproof lock?
this channel proves you dont need a 10min intro 10min talk about the item making a short video 20min like most people do, straight to the point. Love that, keep up the lock picking!
And, don't forget that he has quiet videos, and by that I mean, no music is played while is narrating the video.
@@bikeny i know what you means dude lol short sweet and to the point
@@bikeny WTF is it with people putting music behind all their vids? It's most great when they have the voice at 80 db and the music at 89db. WTF did he just say?
Why do safes like this not have a lip seal like sandwich containers? Using the method shown in the video would be much more difficult if there was an obstruction blocking access to the code change button
When a sandwich box has better security than a safe, something is wrong. Also, I'm not sure if this safe is waterproof. That would be a nice thing if I store papers in it.
@@simonspacek3670 I worry about flooding and certainly wouldn't trust my papers to this. And I can find better looking jewelry boxes with as little security. But yeah, I even doubt the heat resistance with that opening.
You just saved them a lot of money. Great solution. Email them! An extruded plastic lip that surrounds the reset hole that mates to a recess in the lid, or vice versa. Genius.
I'm convinced that security products like locks and safes are designed and built by thieves for thieves.
DUH!
Short and sweet. Gets in, savages a product, gets out.
LPL! Have you gotten the "unpickable" lock from Works By Design yet? 😅
I'm so curious what you think. Even though I have a sneaky suspicion you'll finesse that lock, _somehow._ ^^
It's so amazing that products like this are even designed!
Equal Employment Opportunity. Unqualified people risen to above their level of ability. Lock design, computer programmers, persons elected to govern you, ....
they figure more people would be mad at not being able to get in the safe after they forgot their code than would be mad when LPL breaks in and steals all their docs
It's mainly for fire protection, but strill, this is such an unnecessary flaw.
@@BL-yj2wp if the box is in a serious fire, how do those buttons and electronics fair?
@@bermchasin
Doesn‘t matter, it‘s fairly easy to break open.
I suspect that it is too small and thin to keep its contents cool enough for a longer period anyway.
Imagine being product manager of this safe and watching this video...
They don't care.
These companies have been spitting out useless trash for decades.
I believe they just don't care, if they did then this video would just not exist
LPL: "It is clear very little thought went into this product"
Sentry PM: Uh, what's that supposed to mean?
@frialreevus971 they didn't care about it when they designed it so yeah I don't see why they would care now.
I'm sure the thought was "no one will download the instructions online to know how to change the code if they don't own it". Because lock designers are designing a lock, not thwarting those who'd open a lock.
Can't wait to see you take on the new Works By Design 'Unpickable' Lock
Wow, that certainly is lock design malpractice! They should be ashamed of themselves for this one. Thanks for bringing this issue to light! 🥰😍😘
Eh, the one where there is a easily removed handle still beats this in ease of access. :P
0:19 - You know there's been lawyers involved when a manufacturer includes a sticker changing the description/expectation.The password reset button working when the unit is locked is sheer lunacy. 🙄
Naysayers Harumph!!
All great personalities need a Foil!
What would LPL be without SentrySafe? Or MasterLock?
Jack Benny? Rochester.
Johnny Carson? Ed McMahon.
You get the idea.
At this point, a zip tie or velcro strap is more secure. A lot of these locks are a joke! We're looking at you Master Lock!
Just put enough duct tape around the item you want to be protected. LPL did spend more time in removing duct tape in the past, than opening that lock or any of master locks crappy paper weights.
Zip Ties are really easy to unlock. Just jam a small knife point or pen into the outside end that runs over the notches. You can hold the locking bit up and just un-zip the tie. The bigger and heavier the Zip Tie the easier it is.
Also you get a free Zip Tie out of it. Probably the best way to take of zip ties.
2024s finest minds at work hear.
We’re all screwed!
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I bought my gun safe (VAULTEK) after watching your videos. Thanks for reviewing so many locks.
I know the bulk of your videos are what locks not to buy. Occasionally you come out with a “not bad” or “ok for use” one.
Perfect opportunity to change the combination, steal someone's stuff, leave a bag of poop inside, and re-lock it.
Makes me think it should be criminal to be so bad.
Something along the lines of "Negligent property endangerment".
The team that designed, made and marketed this product should all stand trial and many of them should see the inside of a cell. When they do, they might actually learn something about security so they should see it as free education.
Makes sense when you look up who owns Sentry Safe 😅
Master Lock 💸
And in 2016, Master Lock closed its Rochester, New York production facilities and moved production to Mexico.
@@ragtowne Does it even matter where the item is made when the engineer is the same, the blueprints are the same, and QA is the same? Let's blame the real culprit here.
@@DinnerForkTongue I think where an item is made can have a significant impact on the quality - for example I find a lot of products whose production was moved to China have much poorer quality than before so moving production from the United States to Mexico could affect the quality of master lock products - it’s not an indictment of people but rather the source materials used and the manufacturing processes implemented - after all the move was probably done to “save money” during the manufacturing process.
@@ragtowne You speak the truth on quality, but the theme was design, not construction. Extending that idea, would I interject "item could use a drainage hole for liquids"
@@ragtowne Again, that's outsourcing the cheap way (purely to please shareholders at the expense of everything else) and QA being sloppy. Not a matter of production origin. China for example (since it's currently the planet's industrial heartland) can and does make excellent products, _as long as_ you hire them to make excellent products and not garbage on the cheap.
It's alarming that such a costly and presumably secure product has such a glaring flaw. A wake-up call for consumers to consider before investing in such products.
I just love watching these videos!
There is a wave rake crying somewhere.
lets see your true skills picking
Works By Design lock :P
Each time I think I couldn’t possibly be amazed …
Love how you keep the videos short and to the point too 😂
75 dollars defeated by half a cent.
Jeebus, it would be trivial to have a sliding metal plate pushed over while opened that would cover the reset port, blocking a paperclip attack. Sad to see Clippy fired by Microsoft led into a life of crime..
Oh no! Again? Thanks LPL, great job exposing yet another product that should never have got beyond design stage. 🙏
Once you realize that these are not meant to store stuff but to give you an excuse for the police/insurance, the design makes lots of sense.
my first thought
they could have improved it with zero effort.
To protect documents from flood, I would think at least there should be some rubber seals around the edges though.
And by doing so, maybe it can also block the access to the passkey changing hole?
Or they could do like just about every other lock box company and put the button *inside* the box.
Your channel's continued prosperity is not only a sign that burglary is as popular as yesteryear, but mostly that your amazing content continues serving the customer and forcing companies to do the same.
I love your videos. They are helpful, Thank you!
I was expecting zooming in on Master Lock logo at the end just like another video.
IT IS a Masterlock brand, just watch the video where LPL saws through a bigger "Sentry Safe" .
At least he never used a spoon.
There is no spoon
a paper clip is worse than a spoon for this product's rep.
Speaking as someone that lost THOUSANDS of dollars slowly over the course of a year to the non-electronic key based Sentry Safe, where the thief just went out and bought their own, and they keys it comes with work on any of the same model safes, YEAH, I have to agree.
Sentrysafe... The Masterlock of lock boxes.
Guess who owns Sentry 😉
Even if they fixed that flaw, I’m sure it’s easy to forcibly open with a sledgehammer or throwing it on the ground.
or a magnet
To be fair though - you'd need to know the button was there to exploit it. Still, security by obfuscation is the worst kind of security.
everyone youtubes everything so a quick search and you are in! for example I went to visit someone in the hospital and they needed access to the safe in the room and no one was helping so I googled found master password and opened it. so its no excuse anymore also a magnet would probably work on this junk
I would assume anyone can look up the instructions on how to reset code. I also assume the box comes with a tool for doing so. I do not deal with locks AT ALL. How about a simple... Don't let this happen when box is locked, for starters.
Found the manual in 2 minutes
@@buckiesmalls this lock knows nothing about box state. After you put proper code it unlocks, then wait few seconds, and lock itself again (listen to noise @0:54). Same procedure no mater if you opened box or not. So there is no way, without adding another switch, to block change pin button when lid is closed.
But it could be easily prevented mechanical way. Or just by moving this button in hard to reach place, or by adding to lid some kind of notch to cover button.
@@tomaszstaz6295 You said a bunch of nothing. Make that make sense. Box state? When I say box I am talking about the entire unit.
"After you put proper code it unlocks,"
Yeah that how code locks work??? Defending this is weird.
Just saw an ad for the Stopbox. Claims to be a quick one hand access for a gun but still robust enough to frustrate a curious kid into not cracking it open. This needs a test.
I don't think it's at all waterproof. A Tupperware container would be more suitable for storing documents under fear of flooding.
On top of that, your documents can smell like crispy leftovers, win win.
I thought so too. It looked like no care at all was taken for that. May I suggest a Pelican case? Totally waterproof (they even come with advertised flotation ratings, in pounds of capacity) and many of them come with locks, padlock hasps, or both.
Was it made by master lock?
If it was master lock they'd be a quicker bypass that didn't use the combination
It's made by Sentry, a wholly owned subsidiary of Master Lock.
Man I think more about lock security *much* more than I used to. Thanks LPL!
The thing that worried me the most is that I'm not surprised anymore.
Crazy gow many people had to approve that to get it made.
"gow"? maybe "how". Clearly a typo.
@TesserId I too, have terrible code security, damn. You cracked it! 🤣
@@TesserIdWhat? You've never played GoW?
@@jaystarr6571 😅
Asking LPL to review "The Locked Room" Short Story from Skyrim: Video 22
"There is sticker inside saying they are guilty of false advertising"... Smart.
We basically saw this already a few years ago with a fork on the Vaultek LifePod
A satisfying video. Thanks.
At least it comes with a manufacturer's warning: "Do not use this safe as a safe"
The not storing firearms warning probably has to do with the fireproofing material and moisture in the "safe".
Thanks for sharing.
Sentry used to be a family owned business in my home town. I think they’ve been sold to a big company. Sad to see them come down so far.
Sold to Masterlock!
Requirements are redundant, design is not needed, testing is too expensive, just ship it right now!
Many developers (certainly software engineers!) will recognize the legendary work ethic of digital age right away.
I can see that this safe was designed with cost heavily in mind.
1. The control logic is probably very simple:
* If the user inputs the PIN matching the stored PIN, activate the latch release. Add timeout to clear ongoing PIN entry in case PIN entry reattempt is necessary for legitimate user.
This safe doesn't seem to have a door open / close switch. If so, it doesn't know if the door is opened / closed and it doesn't care either.
* If the user presses the program button, accept the upcoming PIN input, store the user input as new PIN.
With the simple logic, you can significantly reduce controller development and controller cost. I hope this safe has a retry timeout logic to prevent bruteforce attempts.
2. The program button is likely edge mounted on the PCB that's facing the membrane buttons. You might notice how close the program button is in relation to the PIN keys. Running wires to locate the button in a more secure location increases parts / labor cost.
3. There are only 5 keys rather than 10 keys for the PIN entry. Fewer keys means less cost for membrane keys.
Each of the keys are labeled with two decimal digits to give the illusion of support of 0-9 digits for PIN. There are 5 ^ 6 or 15625 possible PINs. A four digit PIN would only yield 5 ^ 4 or 625 possible PINs.
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