I work for Delta Airlines and into my 23rd years with them. Profit sharing is superb. Top to bottom communication excellent. Only problem is old aircraft and no longer has B777. Mainly A330-NEO, A350-900 and B767-400 while domestic is mainly A321, A320, B757 and B737.
Thanks for sharing. Would you like to make a live TH-cam one day together? I think me and my subscribers could get lots of good information from this Live broadcast
I am glad you chose to come to the US and fly. I also agree with everything you have said. I am 82 and retired when Braniff Airlines filed for bankruptcy. I continued to fly but not professionally. My first experience with flight simulators was a WW2 Link Trainer. Now you can see how far I go back. To the day of the Grand Old Lady of the Sky. The DC-3.
Thanks for the message. Receiving nice comments from an aviation legend like you is really motivating to me! I'm super happy to be in the US. This country offers best pilot jobs ever!
Thanks for making this great video, it's very hard to get reliable and accurate source of information in this world, your video is very helpful and awesome, keep it up brother, thank you
Canar, first of all, congrats for having the courage to resign and as well as making this video to show the bull***t that goes on at EK. I, as well, resigned and am not living in fear anymore. You forgot to mention the “fear factor” in your video, even though management and training says that it doesn’t exist!!! Bahahaha! Resigning was the best thing that I could have done! Way to go and good luck on your new adventures…happy (non-fear) flying!!!
You are the second pilot who has complained about being overworked at Emirates. The first one we had been talking on Facebook and he resigned from there and went to fly Gulfstreams in the USA as he was American. I like Emirates but never really dreamt about working for it. I would rather fly in the USA.
Actually, I don't complain. It can sound that way but I just wanted to reflect my think method. Emirates is still great company but it's all about priorities and how do you manage them. I agree with you. That's why I chose rather flying in the US than thew middle east.
Looking at all the little planes travelling in the sky, it’s a wonder they don’t crash into each other……..! Thank you Air Traffic controllers for keeping us safe!😮 Thank you for showing us the ups and downs of working for such a big airline as Emirates! I hope they get the message that things need to change for the better! Sometimes when people speak up things might change!
I feel the middle-eastern carriers just aren't long-term airlines. Go, spend 5 years making savings and investments with the big salary and get the wid-body time in the logbook, and then leave and return to your home country or immigrate to your dream country and setup for real long term there.
I fly for a different carrier that allows us to go on unpaid leave for as long as we want. This is the only way I would work for that airline, because I know I can always go back to my airline whenever I feel like it, so not only if I get fired but even if I’m not happy with anything I can tell them to f right off. It’s a great experience but working there relying on their contract would take a huge toll on my mental health.
Great video! As a pilot in a similar situation I am wondering which visa you got for the US? As I'm sure you know, most US airlines dont sponsor foreign pilots. I was trying for the EB-2 NIW visa but was wondering if there are other viable options...
SMH…was truly thinking the system over there was slightly better than QR… it’s all the SAME! They are truly unbelievable with their systems and ways of operations. Sure the money is AMAZING but at what cost ???? Truly gotta put yourself first and it’s important to realize this after some time as people are just a staff number. Your courage is admirable. All the best
Check out Alaska. Largest state in the i Union. Less populated, lots of elbow room, all the wilderness you can enjoy. Alaska Airlines. Welcome to America….if you already have arrived.
Best time flying VFR is spring/summer/fall and if you really want a big challenge..flying VFR, winter 🥶 is a good time. I am retired from Alaska Airlines, 22 years rampservice….and 3 1/2 years with Wien Air Alaska (no longer in service). Hidden tip for traveling to Alaska, take the Alaska Marine Ferry…southeast Alaska is an awesome entry to Alaska.
Of course nobody likes night flights, but I can still feel the fear and being very politicaly correct talking about emirates while being more rude with TK. When you fly for a seniority driven airline you still get your holiday when you want them when it's your turn. Anyway thanks for the good overall feedback. I am not a big fan of the USA unfortunately , the country is way too violent , the food culture and natural product are not up to level etc. But working conditions are the best
Hey Ben, I love Turkish Airlines a lot. It’s my country’s flag carrier. I don’t think that I was Rude to them but definitely, from a Pilot perspective, they lack tools for the Pilot lifestyle. I don’t have any fear of anyone:) If I had, I wouldn’t share any videos :) There is no single pilot out there recording anything about Emirates but me. Thanks for the nice comments. I really appreciate your honest opinion.
@@CanerAcarbay I agree with you, I take back what I said about fear, my apologies, you were just very polite to them. Thank you very much for sharing, I never flew for them but it's exactly the pictures I have from Emirates, I just passed their interview and I am not sure if I want to join them even for a fast track
What is the American dream? Let me guess. You have a one bedroom house ALL TO YOURSELF which has green grass in the front and the back and you have a DRIVEWAY that leads to a GARAGE!! Have you also planted the American flag on top of your house as a token of your IMMENSE appreciation to the USA for having given you the opportunity to live the AMERICAN DREAM? Oh, incidentally, do you also go to one of those places called a SUPERMARKET and get one of those marvels of technology called a CART and load it with goodies as you are rolling down those aisles and then go to a cashier and have your stuff checked out ELECTRONICALLY? Boy, you MUST be living the AMERICAN DREAM! I envy you!
how did you start working in the us as a pilot? us licensing is different than of european one also you need to have a work permit, how did you solve these problems?
speaking about night flights, I don't like as well but if you can sleep until 3-4 pm you're very lucky, I used to do it when I was younger now I cannot sleep too long if I stay wake up all night in the end I sleep 3-4 hours maximum and that's really killing
Hey Caner, thank you so much for this incredibly insightful video! Your content is always top-notch, and I appreciate the valuable information you share. I've been curious about your work visa situation with your US airline, as I've heard they typically hire residents or pilots with valid work permits. If you're comfortable sharing, it would be great to hear about your experience in navigating this aspect of your career. Keep up the fantastic work!
Hey thanks for the long and great comment! I already had a green card before applying jobs here in the US. You are right. They only hire residents or citizens. Legacies or Majors don't sponsor foreigners to get work permit.
employment contract is legal document, no one has right to change anything until you agree, Accept & sign for it, otherwise this will be a breach of contract, that's really shame...
Hi Great video and really important that airlines communicate well with their staff. BA had some GREAT advocate in Cape Dave Wallsworth @shesgotwings, Capt Scottie Bateman and a few others producing brilliant videos from the flight deck and then BA brought in a new policy effectively banning pilot and crew from posting on social media whilst at work even though the airline had initially actually encouraged them. About time airlines appreciated that pilots and aircrew can be their BEST ambassadors not just on the flights but on social media too. I bet your video has a few potential Emirates pilots re-considering their options! Good luck in the US - enjoy the forests, the mountains and the snow. I couldn't last 3.5 weeks living in Dubai let alone 3.5 years!!!
22:52 It is the difference between democracy and nondemocratic system,in all mid east system is only to have an eye on their profit,all oil cos.and other big cos.they can fire you any time.
I Trained at United Airlines, Denver for DC 8 and B 767 , Fantastic Guys ! Stayed at Red Lion or Cherry Creek Hotels. Polite and Professional People these " Gringos "! 😉😁😎
Everything said by Caner is true. When I talk to friends who are still there, they say they cannot go back in salary and cant leave... Almost all expat pilots are overexhausted and miserable. You see them walking at the school next to the compound as zombies. It is a simple trade....you health vs money. Halas
@@evangelgreek6864 some people can't leave due to their family and the prospects in their home country. For them in Dubai the schooling is better, the salary is better. And important, Dubai is relatively safe. So the stay. On the other hand,..the Aussies, Europeans etc ...most of them are there because they are nothing(in their own eyes) in their homecountry. They couldnt get into the legacy carriers, which all have tried. Good luck!
Great content. Were you able to sell the apartment you purchased in Dubai and still profit from it? joining the airline soon and considering to buy in dubai as well.
Hi Caner, Just wanted to ask how you got a job for a major airline in the USA while being a Turkish citizen? The reason I ask is because from the pilots I have talked to, you need to have a green card or be a US citizen to fly for a major carrier.
I disagree Qatar, Emirate are the best airline, now new Middle East Riyadh Airlines launch. These Middle East have free fuel, tech crew + cabin crew even Traffic controller are all expat. In any case, all of them go back their home country ?. Anyway, their services are not genuine Middles East service. No need to pay for fuel so they can Provide better food, more inflight entertainment. According to ex EK, QR pilot, local Govt + even people discriminate expat. Around me , about 10. Pilot came back home, working environment is bad, Local peoples treat them as slave.
Knowing other airline pilots or former pilots I certainly understand your position. One pilot I know used to fly a lot of red eye flights. As someone, who also worked nights for many years I know the challenge of working those hours. It is not easy to keep flip flopping your hours. Certainly it would be good to see oneself evolving out those bad flights. While the pay and benefits maybe good one also has to have a life. Many pilots here in the USA abandon their dream as a pilot once they see how it is as well. Good luck on your quest.
Thanks for the Video Caner. I worked for Emirates for over 13 years as a 777 Captain and was going onto the A380 in January 2020 when Covid hit in March 2020. I was then told that I will be put back onto the 777 in April 2020, so wasted all those months getting that 380 technical, which is considerably harder than anything I’ve ever flown I might add. BUT Unfortunately I received the dreaded Text saying to come into the training center the following day in June 2020!! I was neither a 777 Capt or a 380 Capt so me and 17 other guys that were in the same position were Fired for UnKnown Reasons. They have never released the exact amount of Employees that were let go due Covid. Only Rumors galore. I believe it was Sick Leave for me as I had a few Long Term Sick for Skin Cancer a few years back and I was on the “Watch List” BUT No One will ever know definitely. Your many points were spot on to my thoughts for many years about the lack of correspondence from management even to the point of abstract LIES were told point blank to our faces during the famous Wash Up Meetings of pilots after Ground School……..Removal of the Seniority List was a HUGE one for me that really showed me that these guys were up to no good. The Banning of PPRUNE from the Internet was another Bombshell!! I’m working for a small growing Airline in the USA now in South Florida as I thankfully had a GreenCard since 2011 and am much better physically (even though I kept myself in Top Fitness in DubaI) BUT the constant Circadian Rhythm disturbances were beginning to take its toll on my body as I was getting older. Maybe it was my destiny and getting fired saved my life?? I can honestly say that EK definitely made me a much better Aviator,even though my previous airline from my home country(After 20 years there flying MD-83 & B737-800NG) had VERY High standards, EK made me a much better Manager/Capt and to use my resources to the Mission’s advantage. Hope it works out for you and yes, getting into a MAjor airline in the US at your earliest opportunity is a great idea.
Hi, very interesting story with great insights. Great that it turned out in your favour after all! One question: how did you get your green card, isn't that nearly impossible if you don't have some certain special profession or family there? And how do you keep holding it as a backup for so long?
@@d.c.6942 my Son was born in the USA and hence was American so he sponsored us. I was suppose to retire in the USA after Emirates was my plan as pre Covid, the USA Pilot scene was definitely not was it is now and even just after 2008 it was downright terrible. So I stayed at EK thru the terrible 2010-2018 years of 900hrs per year and crossing many many time zones. I was thinking of leaving in 2017-2018 but things didn’t work out and thankfully 2019 EK reduced the flying on the 777 and it made a world of difference, so I closed my eyes and decided to stay until 65 at EK. Unfortunately fate had other plans for me! 🤷🏻♂️👍🏻
@@Flexb777 I see, just looked it up, I didn't know children born in the US automatically become citizens. It does sound as if the change does you and your life quality some good! Are you thinking of applying to the majors? As widebody captain with over 30 years of experience, aren't you exactly what they supposedly are looking for at the moment?
I was on the A380 for 5 years, was fired during covid because I broke my leg (sick days) they asked me back I went, flew for a while then I quit when I found a job in the west. Your reasons are spot on specially the 6th. The corporate culture there is all about punishment, you are a number easily discarded, as shown during Covid; 1600 pilots gone, mainly on the A380 fleet, no seniority based to let go of pilots, AI spit the staff numbers with their reasons and weights and they got the names to fire, 3 months to get out of the country during the pandemic, guys with 15 years as well as guys with 5months in the company, people with sick days treating sickness, all in the mix. The company practices the opposite of what is a "Just Culture", you feel you fly with a gun to your head, any slips in the sim or the line your upgrade might be compromised or if you are a captain you can be demoted to FO depending on the circumstances. Go read on pprune whats all about EK and their treatment of pilots and cabin crew. They pay well but it comes with a hefty price! Its a great experience if you want to go, you'll definitely come out a better aviator, but have a way out, a plan with your family, dont get caught up with the "golden handcuffs". Its not a long term job anymore. Pilots beware!
Great video! I learned a lot. The next time I see the A380 on final approach into Toronto Pearson at 9:00 am, I will be thinking of those exhausted pilots flying all night to get there - week after week, month after month, year after year. That's no way to live.
Thanks for the videos Caner, you really are an inspiration for me as a future airline pilot. Honestly was sad to see you resign from Emirates, it's such a great airline but all your reasons are extremely valid, especially the 6th. It's still my dream to fly for Emirates (or Air Canada), but with this video I'll have a clear idea of what to expect going into Emirates later in the future. Like you said there's no perfect airline so I'll just have to accept the good with the bad. I have a family friend of mine who's a captain for United on the 737 and he always tells me how amazing United is, so I'm sure you'll have fun. Wish you all the best and hope to see you in the skies one day!
Hey Camalio, I appreciate your long comment. I hope you can achieve your dreams one day. Emirates, Air Canada, and United are really great companies to work for.
kardeşim böylesine açık sözlü olduğun için çok teşekkürler inşallah işlerin hep rast gider, genelde bizim insanımız doğruları dile getirmez ve nedense çalıştığı şirketi eleştirmeyi ayıp sanar ama sen cidden son derece profesyonel davranıp iyisiyle kötüsüyle bizleri bilgilendiriyorsun
Çok teşekkür ederim güzel yorumlarınız için. Bence saygı sınırlarını aşmadığımız, yapıcı eleştiriler çok faydalıdır. Kendim de eleştirildiğimde ben bunu kötü niyetli algılamıyorum. Eleştiriyi dışarıdan bakan üçüncü göz olarak görmeliyiz. Ama maalesef bunu yapabilen kişi ve şirket sayısı çok az
USA… Worked hard and sacrificed literally living on penny and dimes to get my flight instructors and continue as a flight instructor to accumulate flight hours .. 3 years later (still literally living on 1200 a month pay secured a job as freighter pilot on Cesna 208 caravan than up it to metro liner 4 and then gulf steam 2 .. however in those 5-6 years literally had no savings .. sounded good to everyone that I was flying here there and everywhere and always felt like a superstar amongst friends and family but the lifestyle became tooo lonely different hotels airports and a lot of jumpseats to get home or fly to your aircraft .. and still the lay sucked … felt super burnt out .. no family dating life sucked … and then after having a divorce with the love of my life .. was never around .. but that’s the only time you make money when you flying… … went into depression .. felt more lonely flying those crazy hours at night time and continuously thinking that how my life would be different if I was just at one place and not traveling all the time … the moment the company cut the pay .. they stopped paying g for the hotels .. I QUIT .. the best decision. I ever made … dating life got better .. depression went away .. hot remarried .. 2 lovely kids .. and to see and be with my family and kids every moment is worth leaving the airline industry … it is defiantly definitely not everyone’s cup of tea
I am so sorry to hear your hard story. It’s good to hear that you found your life again An ab initio from indonesia here. I have been drraming to become a pilot. I completed my elementary training, obtain the licenses but haven’t gotten any job here. I thought i would move to the US for the career, but after reading your story, i need to think twice
Thanks for your story. To be an airlines pilot is my dream, too, but i’m too old to take any career risks. Working at the office with endless meetings and trying to meet reports’ deadline at nights on the holidays suck as well.
This is something I needed badly. I’ve always had a dream to become a pilot for emirates and now it’s all starting to unravel. I live in England and I feel I’d be better off here after all the stories I’ve heard. I’m starting off as a Jet2 pilot and see where I should go from there
@@BA_380 lucky you, but trust me, 10+ years of job searching will eventually get to you, it’s not cheap to keep current and the skills fade very quickly
Very clear eyed view from a young man representing himself. This thinking should be taught in schools everywhere. I am 76 years old, worked up through the IT ranks, which are not seniority driven in the US and would advise everyone who works to represent themselves with such a clear view that Caner uses. Seniority, meaning represented by a union or government job, is no picnic either. Your choices are severely limited by that seniority system. I chose to leave a union job and represent myself early in my career and loved my jobs at many different companies.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us! Also, I appreciate your comments about my video:) these kinds of comments make me more motivated to produce more informative content.
Being a pilot is a great and rewarding career. Everyone has reasons to leave one airline for another. I think you will be very happy working for airlines in the United States. All of the airlines in this country are seniority driven. Promotions,routes, scheduling,vacations etc. Most airlines offer competitive salaries and benefits. Obviously, the larger airlines like United,American,Delta and Southwest offer the best packages for new employees. JetBlue is also another great airline to consider. You could easily make the transition from flying the Boeing 777 to an all Airbus fleet with some additional training . I. believe this is the best time to apply for a position due to the shortage of qualified pilots. I wish you the best of luck in finding a job with a US carrier!
Hello James, Thank you for such a long comment. I really liked your opinion and totally agree with what you have written. I'm curious, are you a pilot?
This is UAE. no matter what job you do whether it is pilot, driver, sales, or even manager in 99.9% company will never ask about your concern, they can fire you anytime, and some companies may even cancel the visa.. so no wonder...I lived there for almost 5 years working as a cabin crew for another local airline. Luckily that was before covid, I resigned just on time 😆😆😆😆😆😆
I’m currently a Flight Attendant and an aspiring pilot. It’s not where I want to be but it was a way to get my foot in the door. I agree with you Caner. Night flights are the absolute worst and reek havoc on your body. A single leg red eye flight isn’t bad. However, a redeye turn will absolutely wreck you. I have come home from redeye turns in the morning and felt barely alive, with absolutely no energy for the next day. I’ve heard of stories of crew members being injured or killed on the drive home because of fatigue.
Yes Danial, you are right. As a pilot, nights flights are inevitable. This is the nature of our job. However, we have some tools and mitigation strategies to overcome this problem. At the end of the day, It's not great to walk like zombie each day :)
Registered Nurse of 4 decades here. Working nights in my profession also wreaks havoc on one's body and sleep deprivation causes actual cumulative physical bodily harm . A colleague of mine was in a serious car crash driving home at 8am in the morning following a 12 hour night shift in the intensive care unit.
As an ex Emirates cabin crew of 6 years and now looking to pursue a pilot job i totally understood the indian flights hate lol. Ill never forget those 3am take off flights (2 hrs before show up for briefing) then landing at 1pm in DXB. It were the only flights where i didn't know where i was after coming back, my body and mind were destroyed😅. Aint as easy as people assume. Even though I know how EK operates, i am looking towards United. It just seems like a more established employee system.
Indeed, It is very difficult to work at night. Humans are not meant to work at Nights :) That's the first thing I'm doing in my company. I'm avoiding Nigh Flights. Life is much better like this :)
Heh, I might be a bit of an oddity then. Not a pilot or cabin crew but ground crew and I have no difficulty with night shifts. Morning, afternoon, evening, night… after a day or two of adjustment my body doesn’t seem to care. That being said constantly changing shifts messes up even my body and it’s not a great feeling.
EK rosters run on minimum rest and more importantly take no account of ciradian rhythm. Fly DXB-SIN then DXB-DUB and then deep night DXB-NRT. The constant east-west shifts are what generate fatigue. It doesn't have to be that way. The system can minimise these East-West flipping.
Does this imply that if you fly a plane to a certain destination then 99% of the time you are flying that same route back to home base the following day? Can you recommend any good books about pilot lives and schedules in commercial airlines? Air Canada does one flight a week to Costa Rica during low season and the return flight is the next day. That’s where I first realized the exact same crew is flying the same plane back. 😢
I know Caner from Turkish Airlines. He is very talented had a great career progression and planning. He nows what to do.. He planned his USA Journey from now on May be 5 years ago.. And finally he Made it. Best wishes and good luck my friend. Kardeşim kendine iyi bak.. (Tugan)
Thank you very much :) Tugan is a really great friend of mine and He used to be my captain in Turkish Airlines. Great honur to hear such a nice comment from you my friend :)
Caner, with your words I'm shocked. From a passenger perspective, it is a great airline, but I agree from the Pilot's point of view, it is a nightmare. You cannot make long-term goals when the job is not secured. A lot of my Emirati pilots told me about this and even my cabin crew friends, from the last 1 month I had observed through flightradar24 that all the Gulf carriers, and their operations to the eastern side of the world are after midnight. That's absolutely terrible. Once I had always dreamed of flying for Gulf carriers but now I would like to avoid flying for them. I hope they will rectify the circumstances positively and provide pilots a good platform.
Hey, thank you very much for the nice and long comments. It really motivates me to see such a long comment. My recommendation is do not be biased after my comments. Everyone is different and priorities are different for each individual. I never classify my night flights as nightmares or terrible. It’s the nature of our job. That being said, they are tiring. That’s why you have a rest day before these flights. I had worse night flight experiences before Emirates.
@@alexmcwhirter6611 A side benefit is reduced maintenance cost. Daytime temperatures are high in the Gulf states and departures at night reduce engine wear.
@@haroldlipschitz9301 Indeed. It's been that way for decades and I speak as someone who first visited the Gulf in the 1970s. Those very early departures from the Gulf connect with, for example, arrivals from Asia and Australia.
You work for so many years to be pilot then bang here come s young Arab national as captain who I younger then your experience this is reason I resigned as well Now I am in USA working for FedEx I love it
You want to fly with grandmas in US? Middle Eastern carriers have the hottest flight attendants from around the world. Its the heaven on earth. Shame you left it.
I want to thank you for your insights, Caner. You do a great job for the community! I am presently flying short/medium range flights with more or less no night flights. Before that, it was longe range flying for about nine years. I could not have described it more appropriately than you did when you said that you are a zombie after those night duties. I started my career with short/medium range and I am the happiest person to do that again. Just imagine all the time that u spend abroad while your loved ones are at home. I wish you all the best and please continue doing what you do. Best regards
Hi Canar, it was nice listening to you. It was honest balances made in choices you made wisely. I am not a pilot but an an employee i understood how we have to arrive at decisions. Thank you.
You should try my shoes, 47 years with ….. Air(middle East) and most of my flights I do is back to back night flights and four sectors .talk about seniority
Thanks for having the guts to make this. Shows you airlines you both want to aspire / not aspire to work with, and also who may not want to support as a passenger either
This really is a breath of fresh air and very courageous. You listed the cons but also the pros! In my experience the hub and spoke model has a price. and we as pilots and cabin crew are picking up the tab. Some of my friends who fly at emirates talked me out of joining them exactly because of these reasons. i would like to follow in your footsteps so Do you have any tips to join a mainline us airline as a european citizen? all the best!
Yaklaşık 10 sene önce almanya’dan dönerken bi adamla tanıştım pilotaj eğitimini yeni tamamlamış memlekete dönüyordu. Eğitimle ilgili çok faydalı bilgiler paylaşmıştı hala hatırlıyorum. O günden bu yana hala faydalı dürüst fikirlerini paylaşmaya devam ediyor, ben de takip etmeye.. benim de eğitim bitmek üzere iş arama sürecine başlayacağım, her zamanki gibi birkaç adım önden yolumuzu aydınlatman çok faydalı oluyor. Teşekkürler 🙏
My friend- I listened to your concerns,, some of them make perfect sense , especially when they change an agreed contract, you have 100% right to be upset. You made a perfect statement when you said that today I am young , and can produce, because you are young and energetic, but 20 years down, things are totally different. But finally, I must confront you and remind you that the pilot job is truly hard, day or night, you must be ready to fly. My advice to you is to sit down and think, what you need to do. Plan your life perfectly, because, like you said, we grow older not younger…best wishes for you
Really appreciate your video as I’m considering this as well. Do you know: How is the turnover rate like at Emirates? Do you know people who stay really long with them? And Your seniority ranking ~9xx at EK, is that ranking based on only FOs who are you qualified for Captain? Or generic ranking of all FOs.
It seems like with large companies in the UAE, there is a lack of communication from the upper management. This is a big factor why I also recently resigned from Company.
i can understand it must be very awful to have such pressure going to the simulator at emirates. It's not training at all it's putting pressure instead of trying to improve the trainee !
You resigned from TK & EK both. What’s next? (I agree that people shouldn’t compare airlines based on passenger experience! I’ve heard EK treats their staff terribly!)
I was there on the 777, joined as FO and left as a Captain with a nice rating after 7 years... Training there sucks yes, but I had pleasant instructors most of my time. You should have done your command first and leave... What went wrong? By the way: Turkish Airlines is extremely seniority driven, but you dont explain correctly here... Lot of misleading information.
Liked your communication and respect your views. We are passengers who look for safe landing and comfortable travel because we pay lot of money to travel. Coming week I am traveling from Mumbai to San Francisco by Emirates. Mumbai-Dubai-SFO. Couple of months before I had travelled same route & same airline. Now I understand there is direct flight by Air India from Mumbai-SFO. I wish this would be helpful better than Emirates.
I’m hating red eyed Indian quick turn around flight so bad. I’m also considered quit my job because of that so many times as well. I’d love flying short domestic hops 4 legs a day, no problem. Just not red eye! It was okay with that when I was in my 20s. But now with just a few years to retirements, sleepless flight really isn’t my thing.
I wish all the best in new company,Caner!you make very useful videos.waiting for emirates and united airlines selection videos!iyi uçuşlar,iyi çalişmalar!
Thanks for telling the story from inside out perspective! Stay Awesome!
Thank you very much Denys :) One day would you like to make a video together?
what a special YT / OLD pilot? and Caner replied lets change it to 2.
I work for Delta Airlines and into my 23rd years with them. Profit sharing is superb. Top to bottom communication excellent. Only problem is old aircraft and no longer has B777. Mainly A330-NEO, A350-900 and B767-400 while domestic is mainly A321, A320, B757 and B737.
Thanks for sharing. Would you like to make a live TH-cam one day together? I think me and my subscribers could get lots of good information from this Live broadcast
Yeah but you live in the US…
I just finished oe on the 320b. My sim partner was a Turkish national fleeing Qatar airlines!
Top to bottom? I like the sound of that
Them Airbus are new and far more reliable than Boeing!
I am glad you chose to come to the US and fly. I also agree with everything you have said. I am 82 and retired when Braniff Airlines filed for bankruptcy. I continued to fly but not professionally. My first experience with flight simulators was a WW2 Link Trainer. Now you can see how far I go back. To the day of the Grand Old Lady of the Sky. The DC-3.
Thanks for the message. Receiving nice comments from an aviation legend like you is really motivating to me! I'm super happy to be in the US. This country offers best pilot jobs ever!
You did the right thing, wishing you all the best in the US.
Thanks 😊
I used to fly for Etihad and I resigned before even covid hit them hard, I’m in the US and there is no comparison, 15 days off per month is Gold!
Great! Where do you fly if you don’t mind?
Kalitta for the last 4 years
Which company gives u 15 days off ? I would like to move too !! 😊
@@francres82 Wow, that would be like a dream, not the job but the 15 days off a month.
Really interesting observation and disclosure of being a pilot. Well done sir !
Thanks for making this great video, it's very hard to get reliable and accurate source of information in this world, your video is very helpful and awesome, keep it up brother, thank you
Canar, first of all, congrats for having the courage to resign and as well as making this video to show the bull***t that goes on at EK. I, as well, resigned and am not living in fear anymore. You forgot to mention the “fear factor” in your video, even though management and training says that it doesn’t exist!!! Bahahaha! Resigning was the best thing that I could have done! Way to go and good luck on your new adventures…happy (non-fear) flying!!!
Thanks for the comment FlyerGirrrl! well in the US, you can find anon-fear flying :)
You are the second pilot who has complained about being overworked at Emirates. The first one we had been talking on Facebook and he resigned from there and went to fly Gulfstreams in the USA as he was American. I like Emirates but never really dreamt about working for it. I would rather fly in the USA.
Actually, I don't complain. It can sound that way but I just wanted to reflect my think method. Emirates is still great company but it's all about priorities and how do you manage them. I agree with you. That's why I chose rather flying in the US than thew middle east.
Looking at all the little planes travelling in the sky, it’s a wonder
they don’t crash into each other……..! Thank you Air Traffic controllers for keeping us safe!😮
Thank you for showing us the ups and downs of working for such a big airline as Emirates!
I hope they get the message that things need to change for the better! Sometimes when people speak up
things might change!
Hey Maria! Thanks for the nice comment :)
Nicely explained and straight to the point. Well done :)
Thank you :)
You are an inspiration. Awesome videos. Good luck.
Thankss
I feel the middle-eastern carriers just aren't long-term airlines. Go, spend 5 years making savings and investments with the big salary and get the wid-body time in the logbook, and then leave and return to your home country or immigrate to your dream country and setup for real long term there.
I fly for a different carrier that allows us to go on unpaid leave for as long as we want. This is the only way I would work for that airline, because I know I can always go back to my airline whenever I feel like it, so not only if I get fired but even if I’m not happy with anything I can tell them to f right off. It’s a great experience but working there relying on their contract would take a huge toll on my mental health.
Good luck - Would love insight into your earnings while working for EK, anyways your reasons are well formulated.
Stay tuned for that. It's already recorded :)
You explained it very well. The red eye flights can take their toll on pilots and cabin crews.
Exactly!
Great video! As a pilot in a similar situation I am wondering which visa you got for the US? As I'm sure you know, most US airlines dont sponsor foreign pilots. I was trying for the EB-2 NIW visa but was wondering if there are other viable options...
SMH…was truly thinking the system over there was slightly better than QR… it’s all the SAME! They are truly unbelievable with their systems and ways of operations. Sure the money is AMAZING but at what cost ???? Truly gotta put yourself first and it’s important to realize this after some time as people are just a staff number. Your courage is admirable. All the best
Thanks for the good wishes Yasmine!
No airline in the world is worst regading fatigue because of night flights than volaris in México.
6th reason is the nightmare, thx for video also "the speech" bout unions
Thanks 🙏
Caner please make a video about how u migrated and got hired in the US as an airline pilot.
I’ll do it:)
Very eye opening. Hope you can get into a US major. I think the baby boomers have retired. The vacancies are there. Good luck sir
Thank you very much :)
Thanks. Suuuuper! Very honest!
You're welcome! ☺️
I am curious why emirates operates in what seems like in a punitive environment? Why is the company culture like that?
If you will resign from a 300k a year job, good. Someone will gladly fill the spot.
Wonderful video. Thanks Caner
Thanks bro!
Check out Alaska. Largest state in the i Union. Less populated, lots of elbow room, all the wilderness you can enjoy.
Alaska Airlines.
Welcome to America….if you already have arrived.
Hey, Alaska definitely is in bucket list. I'll visit one day. I actually want to fly VFR around Alaska. It offers great scenery!
Best time flying VFR is spring/summer/fall and if you really want a big challenge..flying VFR, winter 🥶 is a good time.
I am retired from Alaska Airlines, 22 years rampservice….and 3 1/2 years with Wien Air Alaska (no longer in service).
Hidden tip for traveling to Alaska, take the Alaska Marine Ferry…southeast Alaska is an awesome entry to Alaska.
Of course nobody likes night flights, but I can still feel the fear and being very politicaly correct talking about emirates while being more rude with TK. When you fly for a seniority driven airline you still get your holiday when you want them when it's your turn.
Anyway thanks for the good overall feedback.
I am not a big fan of the USA unfortunately , the country is way too violent , the food culture and natural product are not up to level etc. But working conditions are the best
Hey Ben, I love Turkish Airlines a lot. It’s my country’s flag carrier. I don’t think that I was Rude to them but definitely, from a Pilot perspective, they lack tools for the Pilot lifestyle. I don’t have any fear of anyone:) If I had, I wouldn’t share any videos :) There is no single pilot out there recording anything about Emirates but me. Thanks for the nice comments. I really appreciate your honest opinion.
@@CanerAcarbay I agree with you, I take back what I said about fear, my apologies, you were just very polite to them. Thank you very much for sharing, I never flew for them but it's exactly the pictures I have from Emirates, I just passed their interview and I am not sure if I want to join them even for a fast track
What a explanation sir❤
Thanks a ton!
You will love living in the US. Best move I made. Living the American Dream. Wish you the best.
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What is the American dream? Let me guess. You have a one bedroom house ALL TO YOURSELF which has green grass in the front and the back and you have a DRIVEWAY that leads to a GARAGE!! Have you also planted the American flag on top of your house as a token of your IMMENSE appreciation to the USA for having given you the opportunity to live the AMERICAN DREAM? Oh, incidentally, do you also go to one of those places called a SUPERMARKET and get one of those marvels of technology called a CART and load it with goodies as you are rolling down those aisles and then go to a cashier and have your stuff checked out ELECTRONICALLY? Boy, you MUST be living the AMERICAN DREAM! I envy you!
thank you :)
how did you start working in the us as a pilot? us licensing is different than of european one also you need to have a work permit, how did you solve these problems?
Wish you all the best in all your future endeavours May the almighty bless you and your family
Thank you
What’s your new airplane type, and did you have to convert to faa license? Great honest video!
Hey, I'll fly B737. Yes I had to convert my licensee to an FAA license before I apply. Thanks for the great comments :)
@@CanerAcarbay Thanks for answering!
I now make triple what Emirates paid me. Emirates was a total waste of time for me
speaking about night flights, I don't like as well but if you can sleep until 3-4 pm you're very lucky, I used to do it when I was younger now I cannot sleep too long if I stay wake up all night in the end I sleep 3-4 hours maximum and that's really killing
Yes you are right. I'm like you. I cannot sleep until 3-4 pm regardless of when did I go to bed. It doesn't work for me.
I understand pilot turnover is very high, due to bad working conditions and lack of job security.
Anyone ever had any success getting a sponsored visa to fly in the US from another country??
Hey Caner, thank you so much for this incredibly insightful video! Your content is always top-notch, and I appreciate the valuable information you share. I've been curious about your work visa situation with your US airline, as I've heard they typically hire residents or pilots with valid work permits. If you're comfortable sharing, it would be great to hear about your experience in navigating this aspect of your career. Keep up the fantastic work!
Hey thanks for the long and great comment! I already had a green card before applying jobs here in the US. You are right. They only hire residents or citizens. Legacies or Majors don't sponsor foreigners to get work permit.
employment contract is legal document, no one has right to change anything until you agree, Accept & sign for it,
otherwise this will be a breach of contract, that's really shame...
Hi Great video and really important that airlines communicate well with their staff. BA had some GREAT advocate in Cape Dave Wallsworth @shesgotwings, Capt Scottie Bateman and a few others producing brilliant videos from the flight deck and then BA brought in a new policy effectively banning pilot and crew from posting on social media whilst at work even though the airline had initially actually encouraged them. About time airlines appreciated that pilots and aircrew can be their BEST ambassadors not just on the flights but on social media too. I bet your video has a few potential Emirates pilots re-considering their options! Good luck in the US - enjoy the forests, the mountains and the snow. I couldn't last 3.5 weeks living in Dubai let alone 3.5 years!!!
Why can't you last 3.5 weeks in Dubai? Is it because it is one of the wealthiest, most exciting, and most glamorous places on the planet?
22:52 It is the difference between democracy and nondemocratic system,in all mid east system is only to have an eye on their profit,all oil cos.and other big cos.they can fire you any time.
I Trained at United Airlines, Denver for DC 8 and B 767 , Fantastic Guys !
Stayed at Red Lion or Cherry Creek Hotels.
Polite and Professional People these " Gringos "!
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Great! I’m in training right now in Denver. I loved the training and United a lot! Thanks for your comments:)
@@CanerAcarbay
All the Best !
Enjoy Blue skies & and fair weather .
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Everything said by Caner is true. When I talk to friends who are still there, they say they cannot go back in salary and cant leave... Almost all expat pilots are overexhausted and miserable. You see them walking at the school next to the compound as zombies. It is a simple trade....you health vs money. Halas
It is people's "bad choice" and greed for which I have no sympathy.
@@evangelgreek6864 some people can't leave due to their family and the prospects in their home country. For them in Dubai the schooling is better, the salary is better. And important, Dubai is relatively safe.
So the stay.
On the other hand,..the Aussies, Europeans etc ...most of them are there because they are nothing(in their own eyes) in their homecountry. They couldnt get into the legacy carriers, which all have tried. Good luck!
@@erikhateboer4220 my friend I am aware of all that as I served a few terms in the area.
...this is to wish you the very best in your future career endeavours in the USA...
Thank you so much :)
Hi Caner, Congratulations!
What is the average percentage that Emirates accepts when you ask for Off Day and Layover Bids?
Hey Feridun, It's really hard to answer this question. However, I can say that success rate is low. You can not get each request.
Great content. Were you able to sell the apartment you purchased in Dubai and still profit from it? joining the airline soon and considering to buy in dubai as well.
I rented out and get profit out of it :) yeah buy asap as property prices are growing everyday
Yep, good move as you are not made of the resilience EK are seeking. Happy landings.
Thank you :)
Hmmm...I am not sure if that is a genuine approval or a loaded swipe with a hidden meaning...
Ther're always ''brown noses'' to be found in every organisation.
What is the average time to become a captain at Emirates? Reality speaking not what they say
It all depends when you join. Sometimes as short as 3 years, nowadays 8-9 years easily.
Hi Caner,
Just wanted to ask how you got a job for a major airline in the USA while being a Turkish citizen? The reason I ask is because from the pilots I have talked to, you need to have a green card or be a US citizen to fly for a major carrier.
Hey Timothy, I have a green card.
@@CanerAcarbay if don't mind me asking, how did you get it?
@@timothy13467 He said from lottery.
The lottery from last year will be drawn in May.
If you’re not a US Citizen, look up lottery and apply
I disagree Qatar, Emirate are the best airline, now new Middle East Riyadh Airlines launch.
These Middle East have free fuel, tech crew + cabin crew even Traffic controller are all expat.
In any case, all of them go back their home country ?.
Anyway, their services are not genuine Middles East service. No need to pay for fuel so they can
Provide better food, more inflight entertainment.
According to ex EK, QR pilot, local Govt + even people discriminate expat.
Around me , about 10. Pilot came back home, working environment is bad,
Local peoples treat them as slave.
Sir I am a Indian can you suggest me to join flying schools in middle East ??if yes suggest me some flying schools.
Knowing other airline pilots or former pilots I certainly understand your position. One pilot I know used to fly a lot of red eye flights. As someone, who also worked nights for many years I know the challenge of working those hours. It is not easy to keep flip flopping your hours. Certainly it would be good to see oneself evolving out those bad flights. While the pay and benefits maybe good one also has to have a life. Many pilots here in the USA abandon their dream as a pilot once they see how it is as well. Good luck on your quest.
Thanks for the Video Caner. I worked for Emirates for over 13 years as a 777 Captain and was going onto the A380 in January 2020 when Covid hit in March 2020. I was then told that I will be put back onto the 777 in April 2020, so wasted all those months getting that 380 technical, which is considerably harder than anything I’ve ever flown I might add. BUT Unfortunately I received the dreaded Text saying to come into the training center the following day in June 2020!! I was neither a 777 Capt or a 380 Capt so me and 17 other guys that were in the same position were Fired for UnKnown Reasons. They have never released the exact amount of Employees that were let go due Covid. Only Rumors galore. I believe it was Sick Leave for me as I had a few Long Term Sick for Skin Cancer a few years back and I was on the “Watch List” BUT No One will ever know definitely. Your many points were spot on to my thoughts for many years about the lack of correspondence from management even to the point of abstract LIES were told point blank to our faces during the famous Wash Up Meetings of pilots after Ground School……..Removal of the Seniority List was a HUGE one for me that really showed me that these guys were up to no good. The Banning of PPRUNE from the Internet was another Bombshell!! I’m working for a small growing Airline in the USA now in South Florida as I thankfully had a GreenCard since 2011 and am much better physically (even though I kept myself in Top Fitness in DubaI) BUT the constant Circadian Rhythm disturbances were beginning to take its toll on my body as I was getting older. Maybe it was my destiny and getting fired saved my life?? I can honestly say that EK definitely made me a much better Aviator,even though my previous airline from my home country(After 20 years there flying MD-83 & B737-800NG) had VERY High standards, EK made me a much better Manager/Capt and to use my resources to the Mission’s advantage. Hope it works out for you and yes, getting into a MAjor airline in the US at your earliest opportunity is a great idea.
Thanks for the great comment Edwards. I agree with each sentence that you wrote in your comments. Text to me if you ever have a layover in Houston:)
Hi, very interesting story with great insights. Great that it turned out in your favour after all! One question: how did you get your green card, isn't that nearly impossible if you don't have some certain special profession or family there? And how do you keep holding it as a backup for so long?
Hi Ed…u r rite! Happy to know u r still flying..take care
Paulo Leite
@@d.c.6942 my Son was born in the USA and hence was American so he sponsored us. I was suppose to retire in the USA after Emirates was my plan as pre Covid, the USA Pilot scene was definitely not was it is now and even just after 2008 it was downright terrible. So I stayed at EK thru the terrible 2010-2018 years of 900hrs per year and crossing many many time zones. I was thinking of leaving in 2017-2018 but things didn’t work out and thankfully 2019 EK reduced the flying on the 777 and it made a world of difference, so I closed my eyes and decided to stay until 65 at EK. Unfortunately fate had other plans for me! 🤷🏻♂️👍🏻
@@Flexb777 I see, just looked it up, I didn't know children born in the US automatically become citizens. It does sound as if the change does you and your life quality some good! Are you thinking of applying to the majors? As widebody captain with over 30 years of experience, aren't you exactly what they supposedly are looking for at the moment?
I was on the A380 for 5 years, was fired during covid because I broke my leg (sick days) they asked me back I went, flew for a while then I quit when I found a job in the west. Your reasons are spot on specially the 6th. The corporate culture there is all about punishment, you are a number easily discarded, as shown during Covid; 1600 pilots gone, mainly on the A380 fleet, no seniority based to let go of pilots, AI spit the staff numbers with their reasons and weights and they got the names to fire, 3 months to get out of the country during the pandemic, guys with 15 years as well as guys with 5months in the company, people with sick days treating sickness, all in the mix. The company practices the opposite of what is a "Just Culture", you feel you fly with a gun to your head, any slips in the sim or the line your upgrade might be compromised or if you are a captain you can be demoted to FO depending on the circumstances. Go read on pprune whats all about EK and their treatment of pilots and cabin crew. They pay well but it comes with a hefty price! Its a great experience if you want to go, you'll definitely come out a better aviator, but have a way out, a plan with your family, dont get caught up with the "golden handcuffs". Its not a long term job anymore. Pilots beware!
How much is pay for FO?
how much is the salary??
5k f 8 c
@@hupahupa1905 ?
$5k/mo for FO
$8k/mo for Capt
Great video! I learned a lot. The next time I see the A380 on final approach into Toronto Pearson at 9:00 am, I will be thinking of those exhausted pilots flying all night to get there - week after week, month after month, year after year. That's no way to live.
Thanks for the videos Caner, you really are an inspiration for me as a future airline pilot. Honestly was sad to see you resign from Emirates, it's such a great airline but all your reasons are extremely valid, especially the 6th. It's still my dream to fly for Emirates (or Air Canada), but with this video I'll have a clear idea of what to expect going into Emirates later in the future. Like you said there's no perfect airline so I'll just have to accept the good with the bad. I have a family friend of mine who's a captain for United on the 737 and he always tells me how amazing United is, so I'm sure you'll have fun. Wish you all the best and hope to see you in the skies one day!
Hey Camalio, I appreciate your long comment. I hope you can achieve your dreams one day. Emirates, Air Canada, and United are really great companies to work for.
kardeşim böylesine açık sözlü olduğun için çok teşekkürler inşallah işlerin hep rast gider, genelde bizim insanımız doğruları dile getirmez ve nedense çalıştığı şirketi eleştirmeyi ayıp sanar ama sen cidden son derece profesyonel davranıp iyisiyle kötüsüyle bizleri bilgilendiriyorsun
Çok teşekkür ederim güzel yorumlarınız için. Bence saygı sınırlarını aşmadığımız, yapıcı eleştiriler çok faydalıdır. Kendim de eleştirildiğimde ben bunu kötü niyetli algılamıyorum. Eleştiriyi dışarıdan bakan üçüncü göz olarak görmeliyiz. Ama maalesef bunu yapabilen kişi ve şirket sayısı çok az
USA… Worked hard and sacrificed literally living on penny and dimes to get my flight instructors and continue as a flight instructor to accumulate flight hours .. 3 years later (still literally living on 1200 a month pay secured a job as freighter pilot on Cesna 208 caravan than up it to metro liner 4 and then gulf steam 2 .. however in those 5-6 years literally had no savings .. sounded good to everyone that I was flying here there and everywhere and always felt like a superstar amongst friends and family but the lifestyle became tooo lonely different hotels airports and a lot of jumpseats to get home or fly to your aircraft .. and still the lay sucked … felt super burnt out .. no family dating life sucked … and then after having a divorce with the love of my life .. was never around .. but that’s the only time you make money when you flying… … went into depression .. felt more lonely flying those crazy hours at night time and continuously thinking that how my life would be different if I was just at one place and not traveling all the time … the moment the company cut the pay .. they stopped paying g for the hotels .. I QUIT .. the best decision. I ever made … dating life got better .. depression went away .. hot remarried .. 2 lovely kids .. and to see and be with my family and kids every moment is worth leaving the airline industry … it is defiantly definitely not everyone’s cup of tea
what is the best flight school in usa right now? ate or united aviation
I am so sorry to hear your hard story. It’s good to hear that you found your life again
An ab initio from indonesia here. I have been drraming to become a pilot. I completed my elementary training, obtain the licenses but haven’t gotten any job here. I thought i would move to the US for the career, but after reading your story, i need to think twice
Thanks for your story.
To be an airlines pilot is my dream, too, but i’m too old to take any career risks.
Working at the office with endless meetings and trying to meet reports’ deadline at nights on the holidays suck as well.
@@da42ng92😂
what? they stoped paying hotel? so you paid from your pocket? if i was you, I would instruct part time as a cfi and have fun.
This is something I needed badly. I’ve always had a dream to become a pilot for emirates and now it’s all starting to unravel. I live in England and I feel I’d be better off here after all the stories I’ve heard. I’m starting off as a Jet2 pilot and see where I should go from there
Have you not read the PPRUNE threads on Emirates?
@@louissanderson719 No. What do they say?
Lucky you, I’d give my right arm to be a first officer, been searching for 10yrs now
@@richarddastardly6845 It will come eventually. I’m currently studying. I’m hoping to join jet2 in the coming years
@@BA_380 lucky you, but trust me, 10+ years of job searching will eventually get to you, it’s not cheap to keep current and the skills fade very quickly
Very clear eyed view from a young man representing himself. This thinking should be taught in schools everywhere. I am 76 years old, worked up through the IT ranks, which are not seniority driven in the US and would advise everyone who works to represent themselves with such a clear view that Caner uses. Seniority, meaning represented by a union or government job, is no picnic either. Your choices are severely limited by that seniority system. I chose to leave a union job and represent myself early in my career and loved my jobs at many different companies.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us! Also, I appreciate your comments about my video:) these kinds of comments make me more motivated to produce more informative content.
I've from Flight Attendants also, that the management is very bad and you can get fired for the silliest of reasons.
Being a pilot is a great and rewarding career. Everyone has reasons to leave one airline for another. I think you will be very happy working for airlines in the United States. All of the airlines in this country are seniority driven. Promotions,routes, scheduling,vacations etc. Most airlines offer competitive salaries and benefits. Obviously, the larger airlines like United,American,Delta and Southwest offer the best packages for new employees. JetBlue is also another great airline to consider. You could easily make the transition from flying the Boeing 777 to an all Airbus fleet with some additional training . I. believe this is the best time to apply for a position due to the shortage of qualified pilots. I wish you the best of luck in finding a job with a US carrier!
Hello James, Thank you for such a long comment. I really liked your opinion and totally agree with what you have written. I'm curious, are you a pilot?
I’m not a pilot but completely support your decisions.
New subscriber and great respect to you.
Thanks :)
This is UAE. no matter what job you do whether it is pilot, driver, sales, or even manager in 99.9% company will never ask about your concern, they can fire you anytime, and some companies may even cancel the visa.. so no wonder...I lived there for almost 5 years working as a cabin crew for another local airline. Luckily that was before covid, I resigned just on time 😆😆😆😆😆😆
Exactly….
Qatar is worse
I’m currently a Flight Attendant and an aspiring pilot. It’s not where I want to be but it was a way to get my foot in the door. I agree with you Caner. Night flights are the absolute worst and reek havoc on your body. A single leg red eye flight isn’t bad. However, a redeye turn will absolutely wreck you. I have come home from redeye turns in the morning and felt barely alive, with absolutely no energy for the next day. I’ve heard of stories of crew members being injured or killed on the drive home because of fatigue.
Yes Danial, you are right. As a pilot, nights flights are inevitable. This is the nature of our job. However, we have some tools and mitigation strategies to overcome this problem. At the end of the day, It's not great to walk like zombie each day :)
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@@CanerAcarbaywhat kind of tools? Please share
Registered Nurse of 4 decades here. Working nights in my profession also wreaks havoc on one's body and sleep deprivation causes actual cumulative physical bodily harm . A colleague of mine was in a serious car crash driving home at 8am in the morning following a 12 hour night shift in the intensive care unit.
My friends that flew for Emirates, all quit after 1-3 years because they were tired of being “worked like a dog”…good money, no life.
As an ex Emirates cabin crew of 6 years and now looking to pursue a pilot job i totally understood the indian flights hate lol. Ill never forget those 3am take off flights (2 hrs before show up for briefing) then landing at 1pm in DXB. It were the only flights where i didn't know where i was after coming back, my body and mind were destroyed😅. Aint as easy as people assume.
Even though I know how EK operates, i am looking towards United. It just seems like a more established employee system.
Indeed, It is very difficult to work at night. Humans are not meant to work at Nights :) That's the first thing I'm doing in my company. I'm avoiding Nigh Flights. Life is much better like this :)
Heh, I might be a bit of an oddity then. Not a pilot or cabin crew but ground crew and I have no difficulty with night shifts. Morning, afternoon, evening, night… after a day or two of adjustment my body doesn’t seem to care. That being said constantly changing shifts messes up even my body and it’s not a great feeling.
EK rosters run on minimum rest and more importantly take no account of ciradian rhythm. Fly DXB-SIN then DXB-DUB and then deep night DXB-NRT. The constant east-west shifts are what generate fatigue.
It doesn't have to be that way. The system can minimise these East-West flipping.
Does this imply that if you fly a plane to a certain destination then 99% of the time you are flying that same route back to home base the following day? Can you recommend any good books about pilot lives and schedules in commercial airlines? Air Canada does one flight a week to Costa Rica during low season and the return flight is the next day. That’s where I first realized the exact same crew is flying the same plane back. 😢
I know Caner from Turkish Airlines. He is very talented had a great career progression and planning. He nows what to do.. He planned his USA Journey from now on May be 5 years ago.. And finally he Made it. Best wishes and good luck my friend. Kardeşim kendine iyi bak.. (Tugan)
Thank you very much :) Tugan is a really great friend of mine and He used to be my captain in Turkish Airlines. Great honur to hear such a nice comment from you my friend :)
Caner, with your words I'm shocked. From a passenger perspective, it is a great airline, but I agree from the Pilot's point of view, it is a nightmare. You cannot make long-term goals when the job is not secured. A lot of my Emirati pilots told me about this and even my cabin crew friends, from the last 1 month I had observed through flightradar24 that all the Gulf carriers, and their operations to the eastern side of the world are after midnight. That's absolutely terrible. Once I had always dreamed of flying for Gulf carriers but now I would like to avoid flying for them. I hope they will rectify the circumstances positively and provide pilots a good platform.
Hey, thank you very much for the nice and long comments. It really motivates me to see such a long comment. My recommendation is do not be biased after my comments. Everyone is different and priorities are different for each individual. I never classify my night flights as nightmares or terrible. It’s the nature of our job. That being said, they are tiring. That’s why you have a rest day before these flights. I had worse night flight experiences before Emirates.
The reason why the Gulfies fly at these times is because they are sixth-freedom airlines. Their business plan is all about connectivity.
@@alexmcwhirter6611 A side benefit is reduced maintenance cost. Daytime temperatures are high in the Gulf states and departures at night reduce engine wear.
@@haroldlipschitz9301 Indeed. It's been that way for decades and I speak as someone who first visited the Gulf in the 1970s. Those very early departures from the Gulf connect with, for example, arrivals from Asia and Australia.
You work for so many years to be pilot then bang here come s young Arab national as captain who I younger then your experience this is reason I resigned as well
Now I am in USA working for FedEx
I love it
You want to fly with grandmas in US? Middle Eastern carriers have the hottest flight attendants from around the world. Its the heaven on earth. Shame you left it.
I want to thank you for your insights, Caner. You do a great job for the community! I am presently flying short/medium range flights with more or less no night flights. Before that, it was longe range flying for about nine years. I could not have described it more appropriately than you did when you said that you are a zombie after those night duties. I started my career with short/medium range and I am the happiest person to do that again. Just imagine all the time that u spend abroad while your loved ones are at home. I wish you all the best and please continue doing what you do. Best regards
Hey, thank you very much for sharing your experience. I do agree with you! That's why at this stage of my life, I fly narrow-body :)
Must be a tough life there… All the best in the US! Always happy landings!
Thanks 😊
Hi Canar, it was nice listening to you. It was honest balances made in choices you made wisely. I am not a pilot but an an employee i understood how we have to arrive at decisions. Thank you.
Shadab, thank you very much for your comment. That's what it is. It's a professional life.
Thank you for being brutally honest. Atleast people should not go to Emirates starry eyed and think it’s perfect . Always be skeptical
Thank you
You should try my shoes, 47 years with ….. Air(middle East) and most of my flights I do is back to back night flights and four sectors .talk about seniority
Sorry to hear that man! What airlines you are working for?
Thanks for having the guts to make this. Shows you airlines you both want to aspire / not aspire to work with, and also who may not want to support as a passenger either
This really is a breath of fresh air and very courageous. You listed the cons but also the pros! In my experience the hub and spoke model has a price. and we as pilots and cabin crew are picking up the tab. Some of my friends who fly at emirates talked me out of joining them exactly because of these reasons. i would like to follow in your footsteps so Do you have any tips to join a mainline us airline as a european citizen? all the best!
Thanks for the great comment. You can watch my last video about how to prepare pilot interviews. I believe this video will help you a lot!
You are the best man. I hate night flights, and I'm looking to move to US also. Your video helped me a lot.
Thanks 😊
Yaklaşık 10 sene önce almanya’dan dönerken bi adamla tanıştım pilotaj eğitimini yeni tamamlamış memlekete dönüyordu. Eğitimle ilgili çok faydalı bilgiler paylaşmıştı hala hatırlıyorum. O günden bu yana hala faydalı dürüst fikirlerini paylaşmaya devam ediyor, ben de takip etmeye..
benim de eğitim bitmek üzere iş arama sürecine başlayacağım, her zamanki gibi birkaç adım önden yolumuzu aydınlatman çok faydalı oluyor.
Teşekkürler 🙏
Cok tesekkur ederim kardesim. Elimden geldigince bilgilerimi aktarmaya calisiyorum. Bu guzel yorumlarin icin cok tesekkur ederim.
Are u from turkey 🇹🇷?
My friend- I listened to your concerns,, some of them make perfect sense , especially when they change an agreed contract, you have 100% right to be upset. You made a perfect statement when you said that today I am young , and can produce, because you are young and energetic, but 20 years down, things are totally different. But finally, I must confront you and remind you that the pilot job is truly hard, day or night, you must be ready to fly. My advice to you is to sit down and think, what you need to do. Plan your life perfectly, because, like you said, we grow older not younger…best wishes for you
You are absolutely right! Thanks for the great advice
Lack of communication with upper level management classic in the arab world 🤣
It’s great to see someone explain the same thoughts I have. Best of luck on your USA journey. I’d like to meet you and help you out with the states.
Sounds great! Let me know if you visit Houston!
@@CanerAcarbay Will do I'll be in Dallas soon!
You’re right bro, night flights suck, and EK sucks. They treated crew like s*it during Covid.
Im a night person. LIked the night cargo flights more. Better to schedule pilots on their best hours, not managers desires..
I agree
You are right especially about night flights, literally kills you just doing these back to back . Good video.
Thanks CEO:)
Really appreciate your video as I’m considering this as well.
Do you know:
How is the turnover rate like at Emirates? Do you know people who stay really long with them?
And
Your seniority ranking ~9xx at EK, is that ranking based on only FOs who are you qualified for Captain? Or generic ranking of all FOs.
It seems like with large companies in the UAE, there is a lack of communication from the upper management. This is a big factor why I also recently resigned from Company.
i can understand it must be very awful to have such pressure going to the simulator at emirates. It's not training at all it's putting pressure instead of trying to improve the trainee !
It's not just EK but many Asian carriers are also like that unfortunately.
You resigned from TK & EK both. What’s next? (I agree that people shouldn’t compare airlines based on passenger experience! I’ve heard EK treats their staff terribly!)
I was there on the 777, joined as FO and left as a Captain with a nice rating after 7 years...
Training there sucks yes, but I had pleasant instructors most of my time.
You should have done your command first and leave... What went wrong?
By the way: Turkish Airlines is extremely seniority driven, but you dont explain correctly here... Lot of misleading information.
The man have clear mindset on how to select company to work and set career path.
Thanks:)
Any word of advice for people who are about to start flight school in the U.S. with a hefty loan? 😭
Yeah man, that's sad. Hopefully, you will pay off your loan sooner since the salaries are going up and up each year!
I now have a perfect understanding of how these dream companies operate. I must say they are ran the same way with the small companies out here.
Yeah, they maximize the profit meanwhile we are trying to maximize our lifestyle. The balance is important.
If you were looking for a first officer job for over 10yrs but was unsuccessful and always got overlooked, would you carry on searching?
Chase after your dreams man! Never give up
Liked your communication and respect your views. We are passengers who look for safe landing and comfortable travel because we pay lot of money to travel. Coming week I am traveling from Mumbai to San Francisco by Emirates. Mumbai-Dubai-SFO. Couple of months before I had travelled same route & same airline. Now I understand there is direct flight by Air India from Mumbai-SFO. I wish this would be helpful better than Emirates.
I’m hating red eyed Indian quick turn around flight so bad. I’m also considered quit my job because of that so many times as well.
I’d love flying short domestic hops 4 legs a day, no problem. Just not red eye!
It was okay with that when I was in my 20s. But now with just a few years to retirements, sleepless flight really isn’t my thing.
Are you flying in Ek right now?
I wish all the best in new company,Caner!you make very useful videos.waiting for emirates and united airlines selection videos!iyi uçuşlar,iyi çalişmalar!
Hey, I already recorded a prep video for interviews. It's in editing phase. Stay tuned for it!
Good luck in your New live and New career
Wishing you many more God Bless and Happy Landings in United Airlines.
Thank you very much my friend 🙏🙏