I chose this class not to copy your build but bc your one of the only streamers that actually took the time to know what they are talking about. Half the videos I see on TH-cam rn are of people in act 1 and 2 not knowing any mechanics. Ty man
This video is awesome, thank you! Watched a TON of different poison pathfinder guides with BS that doesn't actually work, appreciate you actually making a good guide :)
Thanks man, not so many poison pathfinder guide in youtube. I’m new to POE but played D4 before. I have been following your build since the game started and day by day. Appreciated !
I just hit maps last night, I have seen like 4-5 different variations of Pathfinder so far, I think I like this one the most. Currently I have a big ass phy hitting bow so I wont be able to make a fully elemental swap for a while but I will try to build something similar to this build for sure. 100% agree with your choice to get extra passive skills over the other pathfinder ascendancy choices.... They need to be looked at T_T
There’s another gem besides close combat or the 7 meter one, it’s if you move more than 2meters, the skill will do 40% more damage for its duration. Better dmg, easier set up!
Been lurking in your stream the last couple days and love the concept. I might try a gas cloud with minions applying debuff variant for fun/ flavor. Seeing the gloves you use turned my playthrough around.
I've also been playing around with this build, but pidgeonholed myself into phys only. There are some absolutely JUICY proj damage nodes on the tree that are within reach that significantly boost damage, also the Heft support gem is a big increase too. I did not know about the gloves, they are a gamechanger! Looking forward to playing around with this build some more; With the added bonus of how unlikely it is to be hit with the giant nerf hammer :D.
Been watching your journey through the build as I am trying to do the poison as well. STRUGGLING at level 40 right now in act 3, just not doing the damage and my survivability sucks. We will persevere though
Great to see a Pathfinder player, i think we've been a minority. Theres very few guides or players atm. Thanks for sharing your build, im curious are you not bored with 1-button spec? I like your build but i feel like i need a bit of a combo to keep things spicy haha!
I am really getting alonmg very well with this build! I put in contagion as well for a slightly bit more dps (though it is very tiny) and for the graphical effect. I was thinking about taing poisonous concoction for the next to ascendency points. will this scale with it or do I need more chaos damage for that?
Slick build brother! I’m finally starting to clear maps with ease! Just wanted to ask you, how did you get the 6th ascendency skills? Was it from the trial of Sek? If so is it relatively easy to do with 73-74% evasion? Thanks again, love the vids keep them coming!🤜💥🤛
As I have already checked the damage from chaos does not give any noticeable boost in terms of damage... shoved elemental conflux into the poison build and got the strongest buff from fire damage. As a result, having a ring with 30% chaos damage increase from it I do not get :) although it is written that the arrow goes to chaos damage... perhaps it affects only the explosion after burning the cloud of poison.
Hey, I'm not sure i fully understand you :) however, chaos damage does add , we just can't get a lot of it. SO we scale big flat elemental damage instead. :)
@@grobbs69 I'm saying that damage from chaos doesn't give damage in principle. damage from elements gives an increase from envelope. damage increase from projectiles and from bows also gives some increase :) in general damage gives everything except damage from chaos, but it's only if you look at the numbers in skills, since we don't have poba yet.
Maybe I'm missing something but since you're using Gas Arrow, why did you pick the projectile damage nodes instead of the evasion nodes? Does Projectile damage increase poison damage?
omg thank you for this. I am trying to do this same build and completely hit a wall in act 2 around lvl 32. I just don't have the DPS without gear and can't set up toxic growth against bosses without getting hit. What do you suggest? I am thinking I just need gear to scale DPS which is hard to come by for me right now. Getting the gloves may already be mandatory at this level?
Would the build work if i was deadeye? assuming going towards extra proj ascendancy and run cultist bow instead for extra dmg ? or how would it look like
Thanks :) Welcome to POE! Unfortunately I don't think there is enough in the early access at this stage to make it a full chaos version, UNLESS you can afford the Original sin unique ring..
Something for consideration: Being that Contagion now soreads poison it might be more beneficial saving 2 ascension points for something else at the expense of it becoming a 2 button build
uhhh no, you gotta take that node to get double your dps node above that. you know, the node without which pathfinder has nothing to offer to any build.
Hey man, I appreciate your dedication to the build and how informative you are! I'm also running a poison pathfinder, but I have a few doubts about its damage scaling. Afaik, hit dmg, proj dmg, attack dmg... Those do not contribute to poison scaling, do they? It increases the dmg of actual arrows, but not the DoT effects. Maybe I'm missing a mechanic somewhere in the tree that changes this, but I believe you could save many points if this is the case.
Hey man! Thanks for your comment. The Gas cloud itself has a attack damage tag, meaning all proj, hit, attack etc scale the base hit, which in turn scales the gas cloud :)
Hey! We could, itll be a very different tree and woudl take a lot of investment.. I think we would have to give away too much poison stuff at the bottom of the tree.
So if physical versions used corrosion to ramp the damage (once armour is broken, the initial hit does more damage = higher poison), shouldnt the elemental version use things like exposure/elemental curses to increase the initial hit?
It's quite hard for us to get exposure due to the support gems we are using, and exposure/penetration doesnt give poison more damage. Shocks however do.
@@grobbs69 Im aware penetration doesnt work, but lowering the monsters resistances will increase the size of the initial hit. Frost bomb for cold exposure / hypothermia curse would drop enemy cold res by up to 54%. Depending on the monsters starting resistance, this would be a much larger damage increase than the despair curse, which will only scale the poison once its applied.
Yo Grobbs, hear me out. Plaguefinger Gauze gloves, Gas Arrow - Envenom - (The rest of the supports), chance to poison nodes to hit 100%, fire wall.. Explosion is a hit... Counts towards poisoning...
@@grobbs69 Interesting... I'm kind of mixing a bit of elemental/phys dmg with the mings heart, and with the big hit it feels like it deletes bosses. Not one button though, unfortunately 2 buttons. Also why no Low Tolerance node - (Disregard this last part i watched the video LOL)
I like your guide, especially the last part with the defences. BUT - as far as i tested - "more weapon elemental damage" still doesnt work for the poison cloud.
Poison is god awful without good gear. Pathfinder is such a bait early trap because poison doesnt make fights easier if you arent quickly killing things.
It's only a effective DPS boost if we kill the enemy in one full application of our poisons.. If we have to reapply poison over and over its effectively the same dps.
@grobbs69 so basically it's only good for basic mobs and not for bosses and rares making it kind of sucky? Am I right saying that? Thanks for responding
@@zackariahp1873 Yeah those nodes are feels good nodes for non boss mobs, UNTIL we get lots of dps. Once our damage is plenty, itll make bosses die faster too :)
Have you tried poison concoction? Quality gives you 20% faster poison speeds and it doesn't specify "this poison" like the other concoctions would. Plus 12% on the tree (fast acting toxins) it should be a big dps boost, especially for bosses. I havent tested yet, almost to that point. Just theory crafting the last few points of a similar char.
but how is these showcase are always in low tier map.. wait for the end game to do a full build guide. Brother running around with 1k5 hp, its chill in tier 6 or 8.
I chose this class not to copy your build but bc your one of the only streamers that actually took the time to know what they are talking about. Half the videos I see on TH-cam rn are of people in act 1 and 2 not knowing any mechanics. Ty man
Hey mate,
Thank you very much, I appreciate you letting me know. Obviously always learning, the goal is to not mislead anyone haha.
Imagine having dropped the gloves at lvl 10, then finding this guide. Amazing timing. Thank you for this indepth guide!! amazing work
Love this video. My Pathfinder already felt very strong, but I've started incorporating a few of these and I feel much stronger already.
This looks nice, haven’t had much time to play but loved Pathfinder in PoE so it’s nice to see some guides finally.
This video is awesome, thank you! Watched a TON of different poison pathfinder guides with BS that doesn't actually work, appreciate you actually making a good guide :)
Thanks man, not so many poison pathfinder guide in youtube. I’m new to POE but played D4 before. I have been following your build since the game started and day by day. Appreciated !
Great to hear man! Enjoy POE, it's a fantastic game made by a even better company ;)
Thanks Grobbs, just what I needed!!
Glad to help!
Been a fan since forever for poe 1 builds. I see the great videos continue. Perfect timing as i just started my pathfinder.
Very nice video man I'm doing an acolyte of Chayula EV/ES abridged version myself so this was helpful to bridge some of those gaps!
I have a similar build, good job keep running it up for all of us pathfinders👏🏽
Very nice! I’m glad you fixed it!
I just hit maps last night, I have seen like 4-5 different variations of Pathfinder so far, I think I like this one the most. Currently I have a big ass phy hitting bow so I wont be able to make a fully elemental swap for a while but I will try to build something similar to this build for sure. 100% agree with your choice to get extra passive skills over the other pathfinder ascendancy choices.... They need to be looked at T_T
@@davidhoff4285 awesome! Enjoy it :)
There’s another gem besides close combat or the 7 meter one, it’s if you move more than 2meters, the skill will do 40% more damage for its duration. Better dmg, easier set up!
Thanks man for some mechanic explanations. I am building smth similar, but now I have the plan how to tank it.
Glad I could help
Been lurking in your stream the last couple days and love the concept. I might try a gas cloud with minions applying debuff variant for fun/ flavor. Seeing the gloves you use turned my playthrough around.
Awesome to hear! Thank you for being in the stream :)
I've also been playing around with this build, but pidgeonholed myself into phys only. There are some absolutely JUICY proj damage nodes on the tree that are within reach that significantly boost damage, also the Heft support gem is a big increase too. I did not know about the gloves, they are a gamechanger! Looking forward to playing around with this build some more; With the added bonus of how unlikely it is to be hit with the giant nerf hammer :D.
Yo, awesome! Let me know if the phys version works out :)
Nice guide! 😊
Thanks! 😁
awesome
My type of chill build thanks a lot.
Glad you like it!
Took a while but worthy! Thank you keep it up ☝️
Thanks bro!
Finally a good poison build, if you wanted to do just Phys would u just swap the ele passives for Phys/attack?
Been watching your journey through the build as I am trying to do the poison as well. STRUGGLING at level 40 right now in act 3, just not doing the damage and my survivability sucks. We will persevere though
You got this bro!
Great to see a Pathfinder player, i think we've been a minority. Theres very few guides or players atm.
Thanks for sharing your build, im curious are you not bored with 1-button spec?
I like your build but i feel like i need a bit of a combo to keep things spicy haha!
Appreciate the video man. Was hoping someone would put something out for pathfinder. It was my favorite class in poe 1
Appreciate it man! :)
thank you so much
Can you explain the ascendancy node choices after the first 2 trials? Thought you were always planning on the life flask node
I am really getting alonmg very well with this build! I put in contagion as well for a slightly bit more dps (though it is very tiny) and for the graphical effect. I was thinking about taing poisonous concoction for the next to ascendency points. will this scale with it or do I need more chaos damage for that?
Slick build brother! I’m finally starting to clear maps with ease! Just wanted to ask you, how did you get the 6th ascendency skills? Was it from the trial of Sek? If so is it relatively easy to do with 73-74% evasion?
Thanks again, love the vids keep them coming!🤜💥🤛
As I have already checked the damage from chaos does not give any noticeable boost in terms of damage... shoved elemental conflux into the poison build and got the strongest buff from fire damage. As a result, having a ring with 30% chaos damage increase from it I do not get :) although it is written that the arrow goes to chaos damage... perhaps it affects only the explosion after burning the cloud of poison.
Hey, I'm not sure i fully understand you :)
however, chaos damage does add , we just can't get a lot of it. SO we scale big flat elemental damage instead. :)
@@grobbs69 I'm saying that damage from chaos doesn't give damage in principle. damage from elements gives an increase from envelope. damage increase from projectiles and from bows also gives some increase :) in general damage gives everything except damage from chaos, but it's only if you look at the numbers in skills, since we don't have poba yet.
Maybe I'm missing something but since you're using Gas Arrow, why did you pick the projectile damage nodes instead of the evasion nodes? Does Projectile damage increase poison damage?
omg thank you for this. I am trying to do this same build and completely hit a wall in act 2 around lvl 32. I just don't have the DPS without gear and can't set up toxic growth against bosses without getting hit. What do you suggest? I am thinking I just need gear to scale DPS which is hard to come by for me right now. Getting the gloves may already be mandatory at this level?
Get the gloves ASAP, get some flat elemental dmg on rings and youll alreayd start cruising.
Would the build work if i was deadeye? assuming going towards extra proj ascendancy and run cultist bow instead for extra dmg ? or how would it look like
This is great! Do you think theres enough support to do chaos instead of elemental scaling? Pros/cons?
New to game, love your thoughts here :)
Thanks :)
Welcome to POE!
Unfortunately I don't think there is enough in the early access at this stage to make it a full chaos version, UNLESS you can afford the Original sin unique ring..
Something for consideration: Being that Contagion now soreads poison it might be more beneficial saving 2 ascension points for something else at the expense of it becoming a 2 button build
uhhh no, you gotta take that node to get double your dps node above that. you know, the node without which pathfinder has nothing to offer to any build.
@@AMoralMan good idea bro but that wouldn't work for this build :)
Hey man, I appreciate your dedication to the build and how informative you are!
I'm also running a poison pathfinder, but I have a few doubts about its damage scaling. Afaik, hit dmg, proj dmg, attack dmg... Those do not contribute to poison scaling, do they? It increases the dmg of actual arrows, but not the DoT effects.
Maybe I'm missing a mechanic somewhere in the tree that changes this, but I believe you could save many points if this is the case.
Hey man! Thanks for your comment.
The Gas cloud itself has a attack damage tag, meaning all proj, hit, attack etc scale the base hit, which in turn scales the gas cloud :)
nice build but your link is missing ghost dance, right? Just checking since you mentioned it in the vid
Great build! Any chance to go for Chaos Inoculation (1hp, chaos immunity) and focus fully on energy shield? Or not enough points/synergy?
Hey! We could, itll be a very different tree and woudl take a lot of investment.. I think we would have to give away too much poison stuff at the bottom of the tree.
@@grobbs69 I'll stick to health and some leech then. Thanks for the quick reply!
Yeah boiii
Running in Hardcore, wish me luck, looks epic fun.
So if physical versions used corrosion to ramp the damage (once armour is broken, the initial hit does more damage = higher poison), shouldnt the elemental version use things like exposure/elemental curses to increase the initial hit?
It's quite hard for us to get exposure due to the support gems we are using, and exposure/penetration doesnt give poison more damage. Shocks however do.
@@grobbs69 Im aware penetration doesnt work, but lowering the monsters resistances will increase the size of the initial hit. Frost bomb for cold exposure / hypothermia curse would drop enemy cold res by up to 54%. Depending on the monsters starting resistance, this would be a much larger damage increase than the despair curse, which will only scale the poison once its applied.
Yo Grobbs, hear me out. Plaguefinger Gauze gloves, Gas Arrow - Envenom - (The rest of the supports), chance to poison nodes to hit 100%, fire wall.. Explosion is a hit... Counts towards poisoning...
@@ryanlucas5504 yo, we did this for the first few days, it's not a one button build and also has less effective dps than this.
@@grobbs69 Interesting... I'm kind of mixing a bit of elemental/phys dmg with the mings heart, and with the big hit it feels like it deletes bosses. Not one button though, unfortunately 2 buttons. Also why no Low Tolerance node - (Disregard this last part i watched the video LOL)
Could you purchase the $400+ founder pack on the poe2 website and use it on the ps5?
It's bound to you account i believe. So all platforms.
I like your guide, especially the last part with the defences. BUT - as far as i tested - "more weapon elemental damage" still doesnt work for the poison cloud.
Thanks mate :)
The more ele dmg does work for this variant of the build, due to the unique gloves we are using.
Does each tick of poison damage on and enemy count as a “hit”
Poison is god awful without good gear. Pathfinder is such a bait early trap because poison doesnt make fights easier if you arent quickly killing things.
great video, but conc effect doesnt work with gas arrow fyi
Hey! Appreciate the compliment.
However, it does effect the gas arrow dps significantly.
Can someone explain what faster toxins node does? Why is it not good for this build? Ailments are faster so they have less duration? I don't get it
It's only a effective DPS boost if we kill the enemy in one full application of our poisons.. If we have to reapply poison over and over its effectively the same dps.
@grobbs69 so basically it's only good for basic mobs and not for bosses and rares making it kind of sucky? Am I right saying that? Thanks for responding
@@zackariahp1873 Yeah those nodes are feels good nodes for non boss mobs, UNTIL we get lots of dps. Once our damage is plenty, itll make bosses die faster too :)
We need more dps poison contiune build
The poison/chaos path is difficult I hope they won’t nerf it.
I hope so too :)
I dunno why you want those gloves.. or to damage with elements at all. Just scale your phys and chaos damage? And get a bow with sine actual dps? 😅❤
Anyway.. Nice video, rally usefull info
44% chaos damage !!!
how do you play this early game without gas cloud? i struggle a lot
Splinterheart + Poisonburst Arrow clears quite well early on
Have you tried poison concoction? Quality gives you 20% faster poison speeds and it doesn't specify "this poison" like the other concoctions would. Plus 12% on the tree (fast acting toxins) it should be a big dps boost, especially for bosses. I havent tested yet, almost to that point. Just theory crafting the last few points of a similar char.
Faster poisons aren't more damage :) Just faster over a shorter amount of time.
now i need guide about how to make money or crafting these items 🙏 :D
but how is these showcase are always in low tier map.. wait for the end game to do a full build guide. Brother running around with 1k5 hp, its chill in tier 6 or 8.
Yep, I said that twice.
First :D
They will hunt down every one button build until there are none left. You shouldn't have posted this.
oh god are we going to get a nerf now. I was enjoying no one posting about us lol
hehe, I don't think this is gonna get a nerf!
i mean in comparison tot her shit, this is pretty tame, doubt it gets nerfed