I saw my first Deltic when I was a small boy in the 60`s. Nothing can compare with the sight and sound of a Deltic going full belt. Thanks for the memories.
I went from York to Newcastle hauled by Pinza back in 1977, the name sticking in my nine year old memory than the fact it was a Deltic. Then in 1980 we had to stop at a level crossing near Morpeth with the windows down as it was a hot day and could hear the Deltic long before I saw it. The noise was amazing and I became a fan.
Takes me back to days heading off to Doncaster station as a lad. The mix of Deltics, class 37’s, 47’s and 20’s then a walk into the bus station for a mix of Guy Arabs, AEC Regent 5’s, Leyland PD 3/2’s. Kids just don’t have this today. They don’t know what they’re missing.
I travelled 6 times a year between Edinburgh and London between 1962 and 1967 to go to school. At the time I was disappointed that A4's no longer hauled the trains. The "turn a lever and go" Deltics seemed unexciting by comparison although they did make a good noise when they opened up after rolling out of the terminus.. I did go behind A4's between Glasgow and Edinburgh, where they were transferred to operate the 3 hour expresses. Class 40 (D200's) took over from Gresley Pacific's before the Deltics were introduced. They actually had less power than the Pacific's they replaced. As I recall the Deltics (D9000's) were retrospectively named after their introduction. The racehorse names were a nod to the naming of Gresley A3's and the racecourses along the East Coast mainline.
I am a former railwayman ! Many years ago I love these beasts ! & the class 40s Aswell my favourite deltic always was 55001 st paddy I had a foot plate ride Hexham to Newcastle 1981/2 long live the deltic said !
Twin Deltic s on a Ton-Class minesweeper were just as 'interesting' The only trouble was trying to get them onto the railway lines at Portsmouth Harbour station!
a deltic had trouble doing a ton? most have been known to do 115+ and there been storys of 125mph you shore that you are not thinking of a class 37 or somthing else
The napier engines were originally designed for marine applications- fast torpedo boats, and as as such were originally rated at 2500hp EACH. For more arduous rail applications where it wasn't all constant speed running the engines would have had unacceptably short working lives before rebuilds became necessary so were derated to 1650 each for reasons of longevity, there weren't any limiters as such. top speed was governed by the gearing on the traction motors. too fast and you can fry them.
great vid, fantastic loco. I was on the train, window behind the white and black intercity coach! pity i couldn't get further forward becuase of first class!
You used to get a nice drone from Wakefield Westgate right up to beyond Lofthouse. I first heard 55013 on this stretch in the 1970's and it was mesmerising.
I didnt get out of bed the wrong side at all. If you read my reply you would have seen that there is no need for any "beans to be chilled". The bonnet front was an import from the US. It was found the bonnet "slowed down" the track visually, making it more comfortable to the eye. Remember; drivers were used to seeing a a boiler in front. US railroads massively influenced our own railway to the good. In fact the London Underground is an American Railway! As is the Liverpool underground.
I have noticed several people from other countries make the comment we did build the best looking locomotives in the world. We did though didnt we? The Americans cant get the size of the loco to match the trains. These elegant Class 55s produced 3300hp and they date from 1962.
I was hauled by RSG in July from Doncaster to Devon... before the small fire, we were hitting 99.7 mph, and once the Duff went on the front, speed dropped due to missing our slot. On the return, double headed, we hit 99.8, and crested Lickey at around 30 mph with a good heavy rake on the rear. So no, there is no maximum permitted speed like 80, it would slow other traffic, and we would have made no progress.
AFAIK the design speed was 105 mph max which they achieved and exceeded on a regular basis. according to one of the design team they had a factory fresh early production model up to 120.
would love to know what speed they would of done with out the limiters on them do's any one know what the hp would of been with out the limiter i was told 4000hp but not shore they did have plans on building a 4000hp deltic but nether did
would love to know what the 4000hp deltic would of done if they had built it but Br again don't know what good for them and the hst come close to having the deltic engine in it also but was turned down dew to the high revving of the engine
@beeble2003 I've heard of preserved Spoons doing 100 mph so that won't be the answer, but I just assumed it went as fast at it could seen as there weren't any slow trains ahead of it, nor was it sent down the Down Slow
@MRT4472 happily: a Mk2A - like a Mk1 - comes with windows which can be opened and are slightly bigger, Mk2Ds are a bit like Mk3s, they are air conditioned and the windows are a bit smaller and can not be opened! Google them both to have an idea.
@brchtr002 this is how you find out the difference between Mark2's and Mark3's. Mark 2's are a bit more noisier then the Mark3's and the Mark 3's carriages have sort of like a box covering out materials next to the bogies. you get it? Now double check the video :D
Oh I wouldn't dis the yanks mate, they've made some stunners themselves! You ever seen an EMD F7, FP45 or an E9?? The Deltic was styled with those in mind, not the other way around! Infact the first EMD F3's were built in about 1940!!
Actually, it's only doing about 80mph. (From 0:26 to 0:33, 11 Mk3 coaches, which is 253metres of train, passes in 7 seconds.) Or is that as fast as they're allowed to go in preservation?
@thebismarkandthehood Sorry? I take it you don't mean generally? Both in BR service and in preservation 100mph cruising was what they were designed for and would be reached pretty much effortlessly with any normal load where the line profile would allow it, unless of course the loco were running on only one engine or otherwise faulty. I won't talk here about just how often they exceed(ed) the ton. 55022 is more than happy to run at 100mph with load 13 plus a dead spoon!
@brchtr002 I think the comment below stating it was doing about 80mph was a plausible answer. if you look at this vid, the Deltic is going MUCH faster then on your vid watch?v=7XzMyHG3PSo&feature=related Anyway, great vid. ;-)
I dissed them? How? I am a big enthusiast of the US railroads but just look at the GG1 if you want ugly. You got hold of the wrong end of the stick mate. Phil.
I always wanted to know who styles modern trains, and why on earth they think any of them actually look good. Some are far worse than others, but I can't think of any of them except maybe Japanese "Bullet-nose" Shinkansens that look "good" like an old Deltic or EMD or something (let alone a steam loco). I mean "box on wheels"? Want to make it faster and more modern looking? Slope the flat front back and add a big rectangular pane of glass as a window...sex on flanged wheels man! Or not.
That was what it was supposed to do according to British rail. But regularly exceeded that think the usual bout 115 on the flat one did 125 down hill hauling a regular train.
@@mrhornby8896 Nope. In the last year of BR service, drivers were given permission to open them up all the way on the track that was suitable for the new HST 125s, and it turned out that a Deltic pulled train was good for 125 mph in places.
@MrFlavioValentino mate, seriously, when have I EVER said that those carriages are Mk3 carriages, or WHAT makes you think after all these years of being a rail enthusiast that I need you to tell me the SODDING DIFFERENCE!?? And just in case you start explaining it all again: I (we all do, I suppose) KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A Mk2 AND A Mk3. Is that clear? Good!
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I saw my first Deltic when I was a small boy in the 60`s. Nothing can compare with the sight and sound of a Deltic going full belt. Thanks for the memories.
I went from York to Newcastle hauled by Pinza back in 1977, the name sticking in my nine year old memory than the fact it was a Deltic. Then in 1980 we had to stop at a level crossing near Morpeth with the windows down as it was a hot day and could hear the Deltic long before I saw it. The noise was amazing and I became a fan.
The only Diesel that has ever 'done it 'for me. When I first saw one as a boy, it was as if I were on a different planet. What an awesome sound!
fantastic vid, you could here her well before it turned up, wow the power of the deltic is there for all to see and hear, awsome, thanks
Love that unique Deltic song
+John Mercury It can play the first 8 notes of Mozart's Eine Kleine Nachtmusik Movt 1 ;)
Agreed - the footage gives a real sense of power, speed and sound! Top marks and thumbs up...
i love that noise of the deltic and the noise of the mk2 carriages magic
Takes me back to days heading off to Doncaster station as a lad. The mix of Deltics, class 37’s, 47’s and 20’s then a walk into the bus station for a mix of Guy Arabs, AEC Regent 5’s, Leyland PD 3/2’s. Kids just don’t have this today. They don’t know what they’re missing.
I travelled 6 times a year between Edinburgh and London between 1962 and 1967 to go to school.
At the time I was disappointed that A4's no longer hauled the trains. The "turn a lever and go" Deltics seemed unexciting by comparison although they did make a good noise when they opened up after rolling out of the terminus..
I did go behind A4's between Glasgow and Edinburgh, where they were transferred to operate the 3 hour expresses.
Class 40 (D200's) took over from Gresley Pacific's before the Deltics were introduced. They actually had less power than the Pacific's they replaced.
As I recall the Deltics (D9000's) were retrospectively named after their introduction. The racehorse names were a nod to the naming of Gresley A3's and the racecourses along the East Coast mainline.
2 types of classic diesel within seconds. Deltic and InterCity 125. Brilliant . Great video
I thought the same as well.
I am a former railwayman ! Many years ago I love these beasts ! & the class 40s Aswell my favourite deltic always was 55001 st paddy I had a foot plate ride Hexham to Newcastle 1981/2 long live the deltic said !
They are the best & the engine roar in unparalleled 🇬🇧👏👍
32 dislikes from Greata Thumberg and her class mates
What a glorious sound :)
Lovely two tone horn, much missed on todays privatised railway's.
Twin Deltic s on a Ton-Class minesweeper were just as 'interesting' The only trouble was trying to get them onto the railway lines at Portsmouth Harbour station!
a deltic had trouble doing a ton? most have been known to do 115+ and there been storys of 125mph you shore that you are not thinking of a class 37 or somthing else
I love how the heterodyning engines are a better warning device than the whistle
Nothing quite the same as a Deltic approaching on full power!
Everyone loves a Deltic.
Beautiful
Got 105mph on the racing stretch. Had 111mph out of the Old Girl on the WCML and 105mph down Beattock with load 11 and a dead 47826 on the rear
Excellent video!
The napier engines were originally designed for marine applications- fast torpedo boats, and as as such were originally rated at 2500hp EACH.
For more arduous rail applications where it wasn't all constant speed running the engines would have had unacceptably short working lives before rebuilds became necessary so were derated to 1650 each for reasons of longevity, there weren't any limiters as such. top speed was governed by the gearing on the traction motors. too fast and you can fry them.
Does it matter how fast it's going, it's a fab video and an awesome piece of machinery.
great vid, fantastic loco. I was on the train, window behind the white and black intercity coach! pity i couldn't get further forward becuase of first class!
You used to get a nice drone from Wakefield Westgate right up to beyond Lofthouse. I first heard 55013 on this stretch in the 1970's and it was mesmerising.
I didnt get out of bed the wrong side at all. If you read my reply you would have seen that there is no need for any "beans to be chilled". The bonnet front was an import from the US. It was found the bonnet "slowed down" the track visually, making it more comfortable to the eye. Remember; drivers were used to seeing a a boiler in front. US railroads massively influenced our own railway to the good. In fact the London Underground is an American Railway! As is the Liverpool underground.
Impressive turn of speed
I have noticed several people from other countries make the comment we did build the best looking locomotives in the world. We did though didnt we? The Americans cant get the size of the loco to match the trains. These elegant Class 55s produced 3300hp and they date from 1962.
i was on this tour! :D
Wonderful
nice video, showing 22 doing what she does best
HELLFIRE!!!
Does anybody know whether the CrossCountry HST stopped at Northallerton? If so, was it a scheduled stop?
@wattass7 pleasure, and yes, you could hear her from miles away
I was hauled by RSG in July from Doncaster to Devon... before the small fire, we were hitting 99.7 mph, and once the Duff went on the front, speed dropped due to missing our slot. On the return, double headed, we hit 99.8, and crested Lickey at around 30 mph with a good heavy rake on the rear. So no, there is no maximum permitted speed like 80, it would slow other traffic, and we would have made no progress.
AFAIK the design speed was 105 mph max which they achieved and exceeded on a regular basis. according to one of the design team they had a factory fresh early production model up to 120.
2 min ago i was watching Woodstock concert.... Wot happened????? lol
She is really a powerful engine, great diesel power
I think we have discovered who ate all the pies.
@beeble2003 Good point, but those are mk2's.
@bluebus270 cheers, and agreed!
Noice! Enjoyed.
would love to know what speed they would of done with out the limiters on them do's any one know what the hp would of been with out the limiter i was told 4000hp but not shore they did have plans on building a 4000hp deltic but nether did
The Germans are the best Engineers in the World. Speaking as a Brit, I know that. Respect.
Not when it came to diesel locomotives they didn't, respect.....
would love to know what the 4000hp deltic would of done if they had built it but Br again don't know what good for them and the hst come close to having the deltic engine in it also but was turned down dew to the high revving of the engine
Wowww!
@beeble2003 Look again.. the coaches are mostly Mk2d/e/f and are somewhat shorter in length than a Mk3. However
@beeble2003 I've heard of preserved Spoons doing 100 mph so that won't be the answer, but I just assumed it went as fast at it could seen as there weren't any slow trains ahead of it, nor was it sent down the Down Slow
@MRT4472 happily: a Mk2A - like a Mk1 - comes with windows which can be opened and are slightly bigger, Mk2Ds are a bit like Mk3s, they are air conditioned and the windows are a bit smaller and can not be opened! Google them both to have an idea.
@brchtr002 this is how you find out the difference between Mark2's and Mark3's. Mark 2's are a bit more noisier then the Mark3's and the Mark 3's carriages have sort of like a box covering out materials next to the bogies. you get it? Now double check the video :D
Rounded off nicely by an Intercity 125☺️
Oh I wouldn't dis the yanks mate, they've made some stunners themselves!
You ever seen an EMD F7, FP45 or an E9?? The Deltic was styled with those in mind, not the other way around! Infact the first EMD F3's were built in about 1940!!
@gw4pjq I think the Germans have always been pretty good at designing nice locomotives as well.
Very fast
Glag horn class55
@brchtr002 ya ya, dude just chillax.
Full speed?
This happened in the year 2010. 👍👍
@rachaelmatt In that case, it's only doing 70mph. (Mk2s aren't as long as Mk3s.)
Actually, it's only doing about 80mph. (From 0:26 to 0:33, 11 Mk3 coaches, which is 253metres of train, passes in 7 seconds.) Or is that as fast as they're allowed to go in preservation?
@thebismarkandthehood Sorry? I take it you don't mean generally? Both in BR service and in preservation 100mph cruising was what they were designed for and would be reached pretty much effortlessly with any normal load where the line profile would allow it, unless of course the loco were running on only one engine or otherwise faulty. I won't talk here about just how often they exceed(ed) the ton. 55022 is more than happy to run at 100mph with load 13 plus a dead spoon!
@pjdscott ta!
Rember wen britan built all there steam and deisle LOCOS deltic great British engineering
And the savor of B R the hst
That was full speed ?
Sounds great! Like you model railway too, check mine out! Cheers
Was that really full speed?
@MRT4472 right, how about, before you spend a whole afternoon ruffling through old magazines, consulting wikipedia first :)
Paarrp paaaarrpp they don't make locos like that anymore☺
Where ????
Northallerton.
@beeble2003 Full speed of a Deltic, even in pservation, is 100 mph
@brchtr002 lol ok.
The grand old gal the hst britan at its best
@brchtr002 I think the comment below stating it was doing about 80mph was a plausible answer. if you look at this vid, the Deltic is going MUCH faster then on your vid
watch?v=7XzMyHG3PSo&feature=related
Anyway, great vid. ;-)
the 7 were virgin and the black one was the old school great western service
One of the carriages was an ex-Intercity 'swallow' livery
One of thebest things br got wright almost ther but rhe xlass 52 beats it to the post
I dissed them? How? I am a big enthusiast of the US railroads but just look at the GG1 if you want ugly. You got hold of the wrong end of the stick mate.
Phil.
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@MrFlavioValentino thank you for letting us all know, I somehow have reasons to believe that that's fairly obvious!
@MRT4472 All the remaining coaches are Mk2d's. Please read the description or any previous comments for reference. Thank you
And pulling 13 carriages bring them back.
13 Coaches not bad at 90 mph.
I always wanted to know who styles modern trains, and why on earth they think any of them actually look good. Some are far worse than others, but I can't think of any of them except maybe Japanese "Bullet-nose" Shinkansens that look "good" like an old Deltic or EMD or something (let alone a steam loco). I mean "box on wheels"? Want to make it faster and more modern looking? Slope the flat front back and add a big rectangular pane of glass as a window...sex on flanged wheels man! Or not.
Full speed ??? Prob doing about 80 there.
Tim Wattison If that, looks about 50mph to me.
@@deltanovember1672 I agree. Not even close to full speed.
By Steam is faster !
I would say between 50&75MPH
the multi subject of the world it’s about 80. Don’t know where the fuck he got 50mph from...
According to friends who have driven deltics it's true top speed is 122 mph
*I was, you were. Correct grammar please! (jammy git)
I take it you do know a Deltic,s top speed is 100 MPH ...
That was what it was supposed to do according to British rail. But regularly exceeded that think the usual bout 115 on the flat one did 125 down hill hauling a regular train.
@beeble2003 true. the deltics really did have trouble doing that ton. so that probaly was doing about 80.good working by the way
@1madaboutguitar I supposed so at the time, but no one seems to be very sure about it. So I'll leave it as it is until a plausible answer pops up!
Flat out in a Deltic is around 125 mph.
*110
@@mrhornby8896 Nope. In the last year of BR service, drivers were given permission to open them up all the way on the track that was suitable for the new HST 125s, and it turned out that a Deltic pulled train was good for 125 mph in places.
@MrFlavioValentino mate, no, just no.
I were on this
brilliant .pity it's pulling virgin rubbish
@MrFlavioValentino mate, seriously, when have I EVER said that those carriages are Mk3 carriages, or WHAT makes you think after all these years of being a rail enthusiast that I need you to tell me the SODDING DIFFERENCE!?? And just in case you start explaining it all again: I (we all do, I suppose) KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A Mk2 AND A Mk3. Is that clear? Good!
Not remotely full tilt....y couldnt track one passing Moss crossing at that range in their pomp!
Horrid coaches, except one, bring back InterCity
@N330AA Did they? Poor you, why don't you send an angry reply back like I did! It usually does the trick.
75 mph tops
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