What a genuine human being. We need people like this to remind us as to how collectively unaware we are of our own personal power and asking the deep questions. Wake up.
i grew up listening to Crass, steve ignorant and eve libertine. Stuck in Canada I only had access to liner notes on the poster size fold out album covers. They covered my bedroom walls..."get well soon. Yes sir I will..." However I always thought Penny was a female. Until I found these interviews
would be interested in Penny's view on the assault on humanity by Klaus Shwab and the World Economic Forum's Agenda 2030. A consequence of growing up listening to bands like Crass made it easier in understanding our true reality altered history and the rest. Our future is one of digital serfdom if we do nothing or wait for someone else to come sort it out.
Maybe he's trying to include the audience. I think it works here, better than just simply being interviewed by the other dude. It seems like a lecture prompted by fluid questions.
Occasionally talks sense here..... but only occasionally. Quite a disingenuous (or uninformed?) reading of Coltrane's life. Leaving other points aside, "A Love Supreme" occurred a number of years after Coltrane had quit heroin. The work was also composed as a suite. Here, the impression given is that "A Love Supreme" was almost "channeled" as pure instinct and, therefore, bypassed Coltrane's rational "cognitive" mind. Not the case at all: Coltrane was extremely advanced in musical technical theory and this was brought heavily to bear as the foundation stone of the work. It also seems here that much of Rimbaud's understanding (or interpretation) of Philosophical concepts is subjectively skewed so as to serve and support his own point.... Whatever that may be. Very well intended but, if you listen, there's quite a lot being "said" but very little sense or substance. The harping on about the "nasty" cognitive mind is laughable hippie / "New Age" twaddle. Ridiculous interpretation / extrapolation of what Descartes was about with the "Cogito". Utopian idealism helps no one. In fact, it just adds to the problem and leads to a passive aggressive position that orbits around a core forged of frustration, sophistry, despair and superiority. "Wishing" the World was thus, doesn't make it thus.
He may have some of the details wrong but he has the big picture right. And honestly, I don't go to Penny Rimbaud for academically respectable interpretations of philosophy, I go to hear the unique voice of a fiercely independently-minded artist. For the rest of it, what you consider mumbo-jumbo I consider good sense. Matter of perspective, I suppose.
Now, don't get me wrong. Respect for him and Wally for starting the Stonehenge fest, I went to it myself in 83 and 84. But John Robb is out of his depth here, left only to repeat the last words the Great Man said, and nod, sagely. (adopts flameproof suit).
Yes John Robb out of his depth, but he brought some great information out of Penny, which made for a good interview. I was a little concerned with Pennys' body language towards John, but I think he was quite nervous and that's understandable, opening up in front of an audience like he did.
‘ weather Forecasts ‘ on radio and tv in the British Isles - where the presenter stood there in their best clothes announce or try to gloss over the terrible prediction when saying “ A RISK OF SOME SHOWERS “ ...FEAR in the Weather Forecast for an average weather day...🙄
I came home, age 15, with my crass record. Put it on the player, and thought; what a slow boring music, is this punk? Then i realised it was a 45 rpm. Feeding of the 5000, great!
Penny has an issue with arguing against and also for semantics. I feel like he has a central issue, but then muddles it. A good example is the issue around the use of the word “artist” here. It’s pretentious and disingenuous to argue that the label (or any label) serves no purpose and we should get away from such a thing, as he finds it necessary to use the concept and word moments later. Labels exist out of necessity. The flippant use of labels is the problem. The term itself is a label. I don’t mean this as an insult (quite the contrary), but in order to make the points he’s trying to make, he would have been better served if he walked onto the stage, said the word “is”, and left. Ultimately that’s what he’s attempting to say. “Is”.
I managed to pick up on Pennys’ disgust with Fear being dumped upon us from everything with my above example of the sodding Weather Forecasting in britain ! The grittier stuff I’ll leave to you and whoever else can manage.....😄❤️
If he just said "Is" , do you suppose everyone's gonna jam with that? It wouldn't be pretentious but people would say it's pretentious. Regarding the 'Artist' thing he's just talking about how labels and Identity put limitations on humans experiencing the human existence. A huge issue these days with all the Identity politics. It's a huge Divide and conquer psi op and labels including Artist are a part of this. There's no pretention here , not in this point he's making.
Well as much as I appreciated Crass back in the day...... It has to be said this is a load of pretentious hippy bollox. It's a bleedin misery fest as well. Oh sorry Penny the world isn't to your liking, perhaps 7.5 billion people should adapt to the way you think things ought to be - Not. "I'm not materialistic" he said from his fekin great big house in the country. Have you ever noticed how all the "great revolutionaries" always come from privileged upper middle class backgrounds? (the only exception was Stalin)
So Crass were considered THE anarchist band and not a single mention of the word "anarchism" and what it means. Just fluffy "humanist" middle-class bollocks and zen.
You get the impression he is just contrarian really. A cantankerous old contrarian. He seldom suggests an original idea, despite offering relentless and unsolicited criticism of other people's.
RAO That’s not so true. But then again, when has he ever claimed to be completely authentic and original? I mean, the subject of our true, authentic selves (if we indeed possess them at all) is literally the first thing he talks about here.
it'd be selfish and self righteous to attempt to push original personal morals and ethics and for one to NOT uphold the ideals of the ones you feel necessary for whatever movement you support. When was the last time someone who completely disconnects from former ideology got a seat at the top of the totem pole in any sect or faction, not just government.
I have met Penny twice. Once in Oxford and also at The Dial House. What a lovely modest and caring bloke.
What a genuine human being. We need people like this to remind us as to how collectively unaware we are of our own personal power and asking the deep questions. Wake up.
Great interview as always with John Robb Penny fascinating intelligent guy
For Penny: Peace is when you are free of the need for peace.
Interesting bloke. Good conversation.. Took me a little while to realise it was in front of a crowd...
the camera quality & the mood lighting, the set design & the interview content is quite impressive.
Saw Crass in Liverpool in the early 80s
Saw them in Carlisle 1981
Can we have a world of gardens growing Penny everywhere,please?
We already have.
When you have the ability to live in the now, then there is nothing. The place where peace resides, H ☮ M E
'Fear Not' ✌
i grew up listening to Crass, steve ignorant and eve libertine. Stuck in Canada I only had access to liner notes on the poster size fold out album covers. They covered my bedroom walls..."get well soon. Yes sir I will..." However I always thought Penny was a female. Until I found
these interviews
Crass’ sound sounds like the material world to me
Love it
He talks sense, quiet and dignified....
Penny for pm before I die.Long live the poet and the thinker he is a profit keep putting things out there Penny
would be interested in Penny's view on the assault on humanity by Klaus Shwab and the World Economic Forum's Agenda 2030.
A consequence of growing up listening to bands like Crass made it easier in understanding our true reality altered history and the rest.
Our future is one of digital serfdom if we do nothing or wait for someone else to come sort it out.
I very much doubt Robb would dare to go there with him :-(
Beautiful man of knowledge
CRAIG WESTON Penny Rimbaud is a victim of Cultural Marxism
vain, self-congratulatory bore.
@@reindeer-o-stoole well said! He is indeed.
He's talking buddhist philosophy in layman's terms.
Is Penny talking-to another person in the room ??
Maybe he's trying to include the audience. I think it works here, better than just simply being interviewed by the other dude. It seems like a lecture prompted by fluid questions.
Occasionally talks sense here..... but only occasionally.
Quite a disingenuous (or uninformed?) reading of Coltrane's life. Leaving other points aside, "A Love Supreme" occurred a number of years after Coltrane had quit heroin. The work was also composed as a suite. Here, the impression given is that "A Love Supreme" was almost "channeled" as pure instinct and, therefore, bypassed Coltrane's rational "cognitive" mind. Not the case at all: Coltrane was extremely advanced in musical technical theory and this was brought heavily to bear as the foundation stone of the work.
It also seems here that much of Rimbaud's understanding (or interpretation) of Philosophical concepts is subjectively skewed so as to serve and support his own point.... Whatever that may be.
Very well intended but, if you listen, there's quite a lot being "said" but very little sense or substance.
The harping on about the "nasty" cognitive mind is laughable hippie / "New Age" twaddle.
Ridiculous interpretation / extrapolation of what Descartes was about with the "Cogito".
Utopian idealism helps no one. In fact, it just adds to the problem and leads to a passive aggressive position that orbits around a core forged of frustration, sophistry, despair and superiority.
"Wishing" the World was thus, doesn't make it thus.
A very well informed and thought out critique, clarity and intelligence, nice one.
He may have some of the details wrong but he has the big picture right. And honestly, I don't go to Penny Rimbaud for academically respectable interpretations of philosophy, I go to hear the unique voice of a fiercely independently-minded artist. For the rest of it, what you consider mumbo-jumbo I consider good sense. Matter of perspective, I suppose.
Penny is such a genius
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Jello biafra
@@Boilingfrogg
Neil Peart
Neat.
Now, don't get me wrong. Respect for him and Wally for starting the Stonehenge fest, I went to it myself in 83 and 84.
But John Robb is out of his depth here, left only to repeat the last words the Great Man said, and nod, sagely.
(adopts flameproof suit).
I don't think a lot of people or they would see it in a competitive way. I think it's great that John let's him talk.
Yes John Robb out of his depth, but he brought some great information out of Penny, which made for a good interview. I was a little concerned with Pennys' body language towards John, but I think he was quite nervous and that's understandable, opening up in front of an audience like he did.
Interesting
Roy Tynan Penny Rimbaud is a victim of Cultural Marxism
@@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 maxist abuse
Is this the truth? Who knows. It sure as hell resonates.
EndResult Penny Rimbaud is a victim of Cultural Marxism
This is not truth.... This is just another pathetic old english leftist.
@@Anti-Peaceforcepolice And you maam carry water for tired old english leftists. You are merely an aspirant to such such a lowly station in life.
@@fresatx What annys you and what you hate about others is your own reflection of yourself.
@@Anti-PeaceforcepoliceZzzzzzzzzzz you bore me son
People think he is super intelligent because they dont know what the fuck he is talking about. Penny has bluffed his way through life.
Interesting body language
Can you elaborate?
‘ weather Forecasts ‘ on radio and tv in the British Isles - where the presenter stood there in their best clothes announce or try to gloss over the terrible prediction when saying “ A RISK OF SOME SHOWERS “ ...FEAR in the Weather Forecast for an average weather day...🙄
I came home, age 15, with my crass record. Put it on the player, and thought; what a slow boring music, is this punk?
Then i realised it was a 45 rpm. Feeding of the 5000, great!
Embrace the contradictions
I want to hear Penny Rimbaud's irrefutables!
Penny Rimbaud. I can't take seriously a man who takes himself so seriously.
Fuck- me Penny isnt in black clothing
Pleasant, stubborn and contradictory at times.
Can you imagine a head to head with his doppelgänger Roger Waters? Zen fireworks! 🧨
Penny has an issue with arguing against and also for semantics. I feel like he has a central issue, but then muddles it. A good example is the issue around the use of the word “artist” here. It’s pretentious and disingenuous to argue that the label (or any label) serves no purpose and we should get away from such a thing, as he finds it necessary to use the concept and word moments later. Labels exist out of necessity. The flippant use of labels is the problem. The term itself is a label.
I don’t mean this as an insult (quite the contrary), but in order to make the points he’s trying to make, he would have been better served if he walked onto the stage, said the word “is”, and left. Ultimately that’s what he’s attempting to say. “Is”.
I managed to pick up on Pennys’ disgust with Fear being dumped upon us from everything with my above example of the sodding Weather Forecasting in britain ! The grittier stuff I’ll leave to you and whoever else can manage.....😄❤️
If he just said "Is" , do you suppose everyone's gonna jam with that? It wouldn't be pretentious but people would say it's pretentious.
Regarding the 'Artist' thing he's just talking about how labels and Identity put limitations on humans experiencing the human existence. A huge issue these days with all the Identity politics. It's a huge Divide and conquer psi op and labels including Artist are a part of this. There's no pretention here , not in this point he's making.
Rimbaud is quite ignorant to John Robb. Very uncomfortable to watch a man who thinks he is so God like.
Love Crass and a Steve Ignorant though 😊
How on earth would penny know if there is a real world!?????ermmmm,eŕrmmmm
Ummmmmmmmmm, ummmmmmmmmm
Well as much as I appreciated Crass back in the day...... It has to be said this is a load of pretentious hippy bollox. It's a bleedin misery fest as well.
Oh sorry Penny the world isn't to your liking, perhaps 7.5 billion people should adapt to the way you think things ought to be - Not.
"I'm not materialistic" he said from his fekin great big house in the country.
Have you ever noticed how all the "great revolutionaries" always come from privileged upper middle class backgrounds? (the only exception was Stalin)
So Crass were considered THE anarchist band and not a single mention of the word "anarchism" and what it means. Just fluffy "humanist" middle-class bollocks and zen.
What's wrong with middle class bollocks&zen?
They explained what anarchism is through actions, because that’s how you really get to understand anarchism, by living it.
Farcical
You get the impression he is just contrarian really. A cantankerous old contrarian. He seldom suggests an original idea, despite offering relentless and unsolicited criticism of other people's.
RAO That’s not so true. But then again, when has he ever claimed to be completely authentic and original? I mean, the subject of our true, authentic selves (if we indeed possess them at all) is literally the first thing he talks about here.
@@End-Result Honestly i think RAO is pretty much right, and having warm conversations with sieg heiling skinheads.
He’s still a good person to listen to you...
it'd be selfish and self righteous to attempt to push original personal morals and ethics and for one to NOT uphold the ideals of the ones you feel necessary for whatever movement you support. When was the last time someone who completely disconnects from former ideology got a seat at the top of the totem pole in any sect or faction, not just government.
The irony of your comment is almost perfect. Your misunderstanding of this man is exactly what he's talking about.
Just come across this interview by chance what load of fucking bullshit
Pity he knows nothing of the Spiritual World.
Go outside put on a mask. Be a better person
BS
Over your head.