WTF is "Crowd Cheating"?

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    Crowd cheating is an issue in pro esports and gaming, but why?
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  • @mdasadrizwan9744
    @mdasadrizwan9744 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2855

    If valve cant ban cheaters in game, what tf he gonna do to crowd

    • @ImABadTeammate
      @ImABadTeammate 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

      COVID: And I took that personally.

    • @daxie__3210
      @daxie__3210 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      ​@@ImABadTeammaterelease COVID into the crowd, that would shut them up real quick

    • @sqwimpy-4
      @sqwimpy-4 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      ​@@ImABadTeammate*crowd spamming omegaluls and super chats on a major Livestream instead of cheering*

    • @jpignalig6693
      @jpignalig6693 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      prime example: Lima Major

    • @ViisualsHD
      @ViisualsHD 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      its not that they cant ban cheaters its that they wont, same thing happened with GO.

  • @otakurt1149
    @otakurt1149 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1609

    I call these Crowd Wallhacks

    • @how2b407
      @how2b407 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Crowdhacks

    • @kevalyarathore223
      @kevalyarathore223 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      wow so creative

  • @joelkarlsson3144
    @joelkarlsson3144 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +247

    Asking the crowd to be quiet is like asking the fans in the football stadium to be quiet

    • @GdNYa
      @GdNYa 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      So football fans yelling tells them what their opponent is gonna do ? How they gonna outplay em or something ? Pretty bad comparison my guy

    • @joelkarlsson3144
      @joelkarlsson3144 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      @@GdNYa that’s not my point, the point is why have a crowd if they aren’t allowed to cheer and be invested in the game.

    • @rianreon
      @rianreon 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@joelkarlsson3144 u make no sense

    • @mark-jf5ik
      @mark-jf5ik 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@rianreon that makes perfect sense

    • @Linkman8912
      @Linkman8912 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@rianreonit's obvious, crowds cheer a lot whether it's cheating or not, you're not making any sense

  • @BlackMageX15
    @BlackMageX15 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +536

    Counter strike: we can't ban cheaters
    Counter strike: stop yelling info for the players

    • @ni6hantindia
      @ni6hantindia 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Trending topic recently: Cheating.
      Make as many videos as you can send them some, there is no dislike button so go nuts

  • @CasualAzusaEnjoyer
    @CasualAzusaEnjoyer 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +351

    ESL now starts turning off X-ray during key moments tho, it works pretty well.

    • @dom3833
      @dom3833 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Super smart

    • @Ken_neThT
      @Ken_neThT 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I'm surprised ESL even puts in so much effort lol

    • @nwgverified
      @nwgverified 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yeah this was a great change

    • @Fujhipngff
      @Fujhipngff 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Literally my favourite change to lan

    • @douglasgudenkauf1952
      @douglasgudenkauf1952 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No, CS had an issue, not esports

  • @rizkyalif19
    @rizkyalif19 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    Man, I remember the Lima Major was the shittiest tournament that I've watched. The crowd were whistling when a team smokes, it's ridiculous.

    • @jpignalig6693
      @jpignalig6693 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Finally! Someone talked about the Lima sh*t show

    • @rizkyalif19
      @rizkyalif19 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jpignalig6693 even when they have a soundproofed booth they still heard those whistles like wtf bro 💀

    • @abikarizma3826
      @abikarizma3826 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed

    • @L0wSkiller
      @L0wSkiller 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, LATAM is notorious for being an unsportsmanlike region. Death threats, screaming fans giving info either directly or indirectly to the team from their region, it doesnt surprise me in the slightest. NA crowds also cheat, but i think it's out of retardation. People just get excited as a conglomerate when they think something cool is going to happen, so noise happens, but it doesn't feel like an obvious assist, but more of a human nature one. Whistling for smokes is crazy 😂

  • @KlepticHeist
    @KlepticHeist 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    The Meteos clip is completely out of context, he was talking about the arena audio bass levels being at a point where the stage and ground vibrate, not the crowd just randomly yelling because baron is happening.

  • @KatarHero72
    @KatarHero72 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +243

    IIRC Brazilian fans had the worst incidence of this where the whole crowd was actually shouting bomb sites and where the other teams were.
    But no one is crazy enough to tell Brazilian fans to stop. Much love Brazil, but your passion is equal parts inspiring and terrifying.

    • @wasdrankings1518
      @wasdrankings1518 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      JANELAAA

    • @a.w_.
      @a.w_. 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Average bra71l moment

    • @vhp9428
      @vhp9428 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That is not true, I was there, we was shouting loudly songs all the time and screaming team names, never the bombsites, but folks can't understand our idiom, so they assume we where shouting bombs. At some moment they even took out the map for us in the crowd, and we still continue shouting songs, cause we wasn't shouting bombs or any of that

    • @scytheyoutube8400
      @scytheyoutube8400 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      So true.... This also happened in a Valorant Lock In tournament... The match was between Fnatic and Loud, best of 5... Last map... Whenever Fnatic would come to flank, the Brazilians will start shouting and shaking the arena... Even after crowd cheating, Fnatic won the trophy... The stadium was empty when Fnatic lifted the trophy cuz loud fans got sad and left the arena😂😂

    • @KatarHero72
      @KatarHero72 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@vhp9428 i doubt you were at the multiple events mate.

  • @lazyturfbattler
    @lazyturfbattler 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    cs2 crowds are still as amazing as ever

  • @rice_frying_shrimp
    @rice_frying_shrimp 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wasn't the interview talking about Baron in League talking about something else? It wasn't about crowds actually, just the noise that Baron made being so bass-heavy that when it was attacked the bass response from people's audio devices would just be genuinely able to be sensed by other people's feet and hands as vibration. Similar problem but not quite the same.

  • @blank9793
    @blank9793 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    CS Crowd be like: We do a little trolling during important games.
    Olof's honest reaction: Me too.
    I fucking love this game.

  • @faisfaizal5194
    @faisfaizal5194 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Companies tryna use cc, but the crowd had merc treads.

  • @incognitomosquito3120
    @incognitomosquito3120 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Whats the point of playing in front of a crowd if you cant even hear the crowd

  • @ianknudson267
    @ianknudson267 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lmao the Meteos clip from the dive is talking about haptics for the game 😂

  • @vergiljerome9126
    @vergiljerome9126 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dota i think is the only game where they use soundproof booths during The International to prevent this. I think every tournament should do that

  • @EXTOLANT-alt
    @EXTOLANT-alt 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Crowd cheating is just part of the fun

  • @MintRobin
    @MintRobin วันที่ผ่านมา

    Start streaming -> people always give free loot to streamers -> You skip to the top of the server -> people assume its because you're good -> go pro -> crowd tells you where enemies are
    Big ol' impostor syndrome

  • @beaksters
    @beaksters 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In other sports this is called a home field advantage.

  • @rhujisiekajiri2269
    @rhujisiekajiri2269 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this version had the best AK sound in CS GO

  • @zywoomeister3654
    @zywoomeister3654 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When forsaken is in the crowd.

  • @trademark96100
    @trademark96100 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ropz stay getting crowd cheesed 😂😂

  • @jonathanVN1864
    @jonathanVN1864 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really good short!

  • @jett2252
    @jett2252 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do remember the whistles in a dota tournament when the enemy team uses SOD.

  • @bogdaneraser
    @bogdaneraser 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That "They are B" sign is outrageous 😅

  • @iWillAvert
    @iWillAvert 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The Jynxi clip though 😂

  • @Sammysapphira
    @Sammysapphira 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just delay the screen by 10 seconds.... this was solved decades ago

    • @user-cc3ef7qh1x
      @user-cc3ef7qh1x 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who did it? It defeats the purpose of the crowd

    • @teddylamazejackson2404
      @teddylamazejackson2404 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It would funny to see the players fist bumping before the round even ended on screen., nope, it wont work., haha...

  • @ericwallacejr.536
    @ericwallacejr.536 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The way I feel about this is the way happy Gilmore felt about golf crowds. IMO the whole appeal of a pro is them being able to play in circumstances the normal person can’t (like in front of a crowd). The crowds aren’t the problem. The fact that they are hosted to public crowds without a bar to enter the venue is the problem. The industry. Not the fans.

    • @Shiftry87
      @Shiftry87 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So your suggesting what exactly? That the events only let in ppl thats proven that they wont scream during gameplay. Good luck finding a crowd that behave like that. The only place u will find that is inside North Korea.
      If u dont belive me look up North Korean conserts. Its just a crowd that blank stares at the stage and maybe clap to the rhythm.

    • @yungbisharp
      @yungbisharp 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The bar to enter the venue is paying for a ticket lol. How else would you propose they vet incoming fans?

    • @ericwallacejr.536
      @ericwallacejr.536 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@yungbisharp exactly. There is nothing saying the fans are competing. So they have no reason to not cheer at certain points. That is the question people should be asking if they think this is an issue

    • @ericwallacejr.536
      @ericwallacejr.536 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@yungbisharplmao at my last(deleted) comment. I misunderstood a notification.

    • @AhmadIzzJ
      @AhmadIzzJ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nah fans still are expected to be civil regardless. Plenty of sports actually demand the supporting fans to be quiet and respectful during the game like tennis, shooting, archery etc.
      While esports have higher difficulty of enforcing such rules like removing disruptive fans, the industry usually just do not conduct more event at that venue after big incidents of crowd cheating.

  • @seloplayz7385
    @seloplayz7385 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The guy telling where the enemy is on a board should be banned instantly

  • @sink649
    @sink649 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is why Halo, and Quake E-sports are the best.

  • @Drae_mon
    @Drae_mon 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does the crowd create tremors or vibrations throughout the whole stadium tho? Because players will still feel it even if they can't hear it, probably.

  • @OlafJorigson
    @OlafJorigson 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd call this: "popular sport"

  • @giacimoto9179
    @giacimoto9179 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Esports got tylers birthday wrong

  • @gui18bif
    @gui18bif 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Football has home/away advantage for a reason

  • @s0meRand0m129
    @s0meRand0m129 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ya I when remember Cloud9 lost to VP in the final because the crowd keep giving info to the Polish team back in 2017 or something

  • @shashanka8344
    @shashanka8344 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First let valve handle actual cheaters 😂

  • @KrisT0f.
    @KrisT0f. 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    they can make one way glass and earthquake proof cabin to solve that

  • @NoOne-pi8cj
    @NoOne-pi8cj 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That’s not the fans’ problem, just put players into glass room!

  • @gragalakaisel1477
    @gragalakaisel1477 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't understand it. Why does a game that sound is the most important thing. they play in just a plain area. meanwhile they have booths in dota. just invest in soundproof booths and allow in game trashtalk lol.

    • @B00nater
      @B00nater 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They have before

    • @crem444
      @crem444 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Technically what they are trying, theyre putting them in glass boxes hopefully of which are soundproof. I think its because CS venues tend to be decently large

  • @baggelissonic
    @baggelissonic 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Female Schlatt can't hurt you, she doesn't exist.
    Female Schlatt: ...

  • @maryrecede980
    @maryrecede980 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro"where you aiming at" me to you

  • @gghhoosstt1233
    @gghhoosstt1233 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Score esports: Wtf is an apple?
    Me: Um... Is it a fruit we can eat?
    Score esports: No no no its a thing that fell on newtons head!
    Me: Ohhhhh!

  • @parthchauhan8082
    @parthchauhan8082 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Put one way mirrors inside the soundproof box

  • @faultline3936
    @faultline3936 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's an easy fix. Make it a one way mirror. Idk what's the big deal about it. Crowd sees the pros, the pros don't see outside. Have cameras inside the pros booth. Idk what's so hard about it.

    • @questlove_
      @questlove_ 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      not sure if this is a troll comment, but in the case it is not, its the sound of the crowd cheering thats giving the players unfair info, not seeing the crowd. If it is a troll comment well played i guess

    • @B00nater
      @B00nater 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s the sound 😂

  • @JarvisDevonDariel-nv3io
    @JarvisDevonDariel-nv3io 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    there is clearly a bigger issue

  • @k1ll3rzombii
    @k1ll3rzombii 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sound proof booths with 1 way glass.

  • @Dizzman_D
    @Dizzman_D 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ban crowds.

  • @nwgverified
    @nwgverified 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The crowd cheating for JITU at iem chengdu was pretty bad.

  • @anthonykulas2624
    @anthonykulas2624 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Crowdsourcing

  • @tccbooom4470
    @tccbooom4470 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bugha won because of the commentators

  • @billyrussell8684
    @billyrussell8684 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Equivalent to screen hoping for pros.

  • @cthulhurage4580
    @cthulhurage4580 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why not a have them in a different room entirely like yea that kinda sucks they dont play on stage but it would stop crowd bleed and might help with stage anxieties.

  • @crazy4fun984
    @crazy4fun984 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3rd party screen cheating legit

  • @Kazuma0915
    @Kazuma0915 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Idk why other eSports events dont do what valve does for The International. Sure sounds still gets in but not that much.

    • @D4rkYT-Gaming
      @D4rkYT-Gaming 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      League of Legends doesn’t have this issue.

    • @somebodyanonymous5725
      @somebodyanonymous5725 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@D4rkYT-Gamingyou are comparing the near zombie like mostly korean league audience to the half mad cs crowd tho

    • @D4rkYT-Gaming
      @D4rkYT-Gaming 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@somebodyanonymous5725 That’s only the LCK (KR) fans though. And I mean… Asian culture typically emphasizes respect and discipline so it makes sense that they are a bit more reserved in terms of noise and craziness. The crowds for the LCS (NA) and LEC (EU) are much more alive.
      Crowd noise will always be high in major international events like the Mid Season Invitational (MSI) and Worlds. Yet, LoL eSports does not have an issue with “crowd cheating”.
      T1 has one of, if not, the biggest fan base in League eSports. Whenever they do something insane like sneaking a baron (as shown in the shorts clip), the crowd will go insane.. do the opponents know? No, because Riot does a good job with preventing “crowd cheating”.

  • @douglasgudenkauf1952
    @douglasgudenkauf1952 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No Counter Strike has an issue. Not esports

  • @kawaii8330
    @kawaii8330 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WHO TF is that woman

  • @ashu.ajmera5
    @ashu.ajmera5 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont get it, in Dota they have soundproof glass rooms, so why not do it here too, both are Steam owned and its actually more effective in CS than Dota..

  • @jordanlok365
    @jordanlok365 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    literally Fazeclowns when Fazeclan choke

  • @droogh3850
    @droogh3850 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One way mirror?

  • @kimikothetanuki314
    @kimikothetanuki314 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's why CS esports is on top lol

  • @TheJerbol
    @TheJerbol 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Polt vs Naniwa lol

  • @jdiv69
    @jdiv69 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jinxy is soo cringe. Another clicker thinking he a baddie.

  • @Goomey
    @Goomey 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nah crowd cheating funny asf

  • @ruinshohkamolzoda827
    @ruinshohkamolzoda827 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is what exactly happened in Rio 2022 when the crowd was helping Brazilian team Furia.

  • @FincTM
    @FincTM 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can we stop soft aim locking…

  • @pulkiseth
    @pulkiseth 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lmao

  • @mikeymcg4907
    @mikeymcg4907 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nah this isnt golf. We need to find a better alternative without telling fans to be quiet.

    • @crem444
      @crem444 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Which is why theyre adding more stuff like extra ear pieces and glass boxes

  • @Apple_Beshy
    @Apple_Beshy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    crowds are fun

  • @Torbarian
    @Torbarian 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think this is like heckling is in baseball

    • @yungbisharp
      @yungbisharp 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No lol, hecklers in baseball can’t help you hit a curveball, the crowd in esports can actively give you info on where to wallbang or if a flanker is coming

    • @Torbarian
      @Torbarian 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@yungbisharp But the hecklers can stop you from hitting the curve ball which is actively helping. Thats the point sorry I didnt make that clear enough thats my fault.

  • @Pog-fb1wq
    @Pog-fb1wq 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dont make fun of siege :(

  • @user-zy5kk6wg9s
    @user-zy5kk6wg9s 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just keep players away from crowds. crowds eyes are dead anyway because of 5cm monitor habits anyway, they dont need to see them directly.

  • @Xygard
    @Xygard 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is only CS crowd problem so...

    • @Okami400
      @Okami400 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      they literally showed a clip about league

    • @GdNYa
      @GdNYa 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Okami400League clip had nothing to do with the crowd. The bass from baron spawning was too loud which made it vibrate

  • @assassin3666
    @assassin3666 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brazil Have The Worst Crowd Ever Seen

  • @purpleranger5987
    @purpleranger5987 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brazil…… it’s always been an issue but Brazil made it so much worse. Incredibly scummy.

  • @carlossalazar6910
    @carlossalazar6910 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Noooo

  • @matheusmacedo9209
    @matheusmacedo9209 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    try to make a tournament in brazil without a crazy crowd, i challenge you

    • @GdNYa
      @GdNYa 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Challenge impossible

  • @RoyalDiddly
    @RoyalDiddly 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jschlatt gender change?

  • @FelixCs6000
    @FelixCs6000 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You can stop it but switching to other player

    • @daneli4414
      @daneli4414 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yeah but what if it is a 1v1 situation?

    • @yungbisharp
      @yungbisharp 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So you’re saying that the stream shouldn’t capture highlights? Kind of defeats the whole purpose of the stream lol

    • @FelixCs6000
      @FelixCs6000 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@daneli4414 so you get pov of the guy they are not suppprting or you can change to thirdperson till they crossed

    • @GdNYa
      @GdNYa 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@FelixCs6000Gonna happen with both sides unless you in Brazil lmfao

  • @valpine1636
    @valpine1636 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Huge ogre

  • @youtubeuser6291
    @youtubeuser6291 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wtf this mouth do tho 😮

  • @darylcorncakes7825
    @darylcorncakes7825 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Leave it to the score to make esports annoying

  • @FarM294
    @FarM294 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm trans

  • @RhelrahneTheIdiot
    @RhelrahneTheIdiot 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Couldn't active noise cancelling headphones paired with acoustic reducing glass lower noise enough to render the crowd borderline inaudible?

  • @danilomomcilovic1481
    @danilomomcilovic1481 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    u girl have some issues when it comes to eating. stop pls,u are so cute.

    • @nagol8003
      @nagol8003 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      what the fuck?

    • @sonathangamer279
      @sonathangamer279 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      The ducks does this have to do with cs?

    • @hoxyheart5479
      @hoxyheart5479 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      😂😂😂

    • @danilomomcilovic1481
      @danilomomcilovic1481 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nagol8003 what?

    • @jagdteaguer
      @jagdteaguer 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bot troll account, be gone!

  • @pulkiseth
    @pulkiseth 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lmao

  • @andmay9358
    @andmay9358 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    For being such a good critic on others she should apply that to her own health.

    • @alphaomega8481
      @alphaomega8481 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For real, i folllowed her on IG thinking she got all these hate comments for no reason but she actually is so anti critic,bring on hate with the "all men bad" attitude as well

  • @pulkiseth
    @pulkiseth 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lmao