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I blame the server S for hitting to RP at the net. S should have hit down the line (his new line after the switch) back to the returner R at the baseline.
@@2MinuteTennis I think that was a bad play by the server, unless the net player retrieved all the way back, he couldn't save the point. However, if the opponent came up to the service line after lob, then net player should have retrieved back to at lease service line for defense, then if I am the server, I can hit a topspin ball to the middle of the two net opponents, hopefully under their feet. But that lob bounces high, so it won't be an easy shot to get the ball low on backhand, so I might just lob it back, high lob cross court, return the favor, LOL.
I was gonna say this too, but 2minten is also right. Two bad decisions, but also sometimes the baseliner will have to throw up a prayer that might go CC so it makes sense net player should have moved back regardless.
As someone already stated, the server's decision to hit crosscourt, esp considering that the returner stayed back, was the reason they lost the point. The SP's mistake was wasting time turning around to look at the lob. However, having seen his partner was in position to hit a down the line shot, his movement to just inside the right service box makes perfect sense.
I agree with everything you say but was it a good idea for the person to lob to the guys forehand side? Also, wasn't it a huge mistake of the guy returning the lob to hit it at the opponents net player who can then smack it down to win the point? Shouldn't they have played neutrally and hit it back to the base line player or, better, play a cross court lob which would mean the opposing player would have to run to the ball and hit a difficult high backhand?
You’re correct. But the SP has no control over his partner. Nor does he have control over whether the lobber follows the lob up to service line. It’s simple, when you’re lobbed move back to the baseline.
So true. If you are running to cover a lob on your backhand, ... lets get realistic. Unless you are a pro doubles player this is a desperation shot that could go anywhere
Combine this "toes on the service line" after hitting sky high "slow" lob (your other recent video) and the probability of winning the point goes up dramatically, I would think.
Better than what I experience at social where I switch and the net player stays in the same spot and I have to run back to my original side of the court to get the inevitable ball, which went to the open court. 😂
I think the whole reason for SP to go back to base line because he becomes defensive situation. Since S will lop back, and SP will be attacked by both R and RP.
The net player could have been one or 2 steps behind the base line and would never hit that ball. He looked around turning his body 180 degrees, causing him to lose his balance. Even if he sprinted back toward the base line, he was toast. The lob was not an attacking lob, and the returner didn’t come in. A simple cross court lob or deep ball down the line resets your team quickly. I agree you should back off the net. But when the ball is over my head as the SP, I’m calling switch immediately and getting to behind the box without looking back. The biggest rec issue I see in doubles is the net player watching their partner instead of the other net player’s eyes.
Should yelling "switch" be necessary? Isn't "Yours" better? If the ball goes over my head, I MUST switch. "Yours" or "You" emphasizes strongly my surrender of the ball to my partner.
Maybe I don't understand your question, but isn't "switch" indicating that you are literally gonna play the rest of the point from the other side v. "Yours" which is more for balls that are in the middle with the idea that both players will recover back to the side they were on originally?
I think that you are right about switch, but You or yours means just that. I have no play on the ball, and I am leaving it to you. Maybe it's yours because I'm out of position. Maybe it's over my head. Maybe I swallowed a bug. Whatever - I'm NOT going for the ball. It is then my responsibility to put myself in my best position for any shot that might come back after you, my partner, hits the current ball - but we don't need to talk about where that might be now. I prefer it because it's emphatic and clear and doesn't require much thought which I don't do well. The fewer words the better. (I could be wrong). @@SmashTheNumbers
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I blame the server S for hitting to RP at the net. S should have hit down the line (his new line after the switch) back to the returner R at the baseline.
True, but what he did happens ALL THE TIME. And, since you can’t control what your partner does, it’s better to move back at an angle to the baseline.
@@2MinuteTennis I think that was a bad play by the server, unless the net player retrieved all the way back, he couldn't save the point. However, if the opponent came up to the service line after lob, then net player should have retrieved back to at lease service line for defense, then if I am the server, I can hit a topspin ball to the middle of the two net opponents, hopefully under their feet. But that lob bounces high, so it won't be an easy shot to get the ball low on backhand, so I might just lob it back, high lob cross court, return the favor, LOL.
I was gonna say this too, but 2minten is also right. Two bad decisions, but also sometimes the baseliner will have to throw up a prayer that might go CC so it makes sense net player should have moved back regardless.
@@DrAnac-qh5dcthanks for watching!!!
@@DrAnac-qh5dc the baseliner anticipated the opponent net player to move to the middle, but that didn't happen,
As someone already stated, the server's decision to hit crosscourt, esp considering that the returner stayed back, was the reason they lost the point. The SP's mistake was wasting time turning around to look at the lob. However, having seen his partner was in position to hit a down the line shot, his movement to just inside the right service box makes perfect sense.
I agree with everything you say but was it a good idea for the person to lob to the guys forehand side? Also, wasn't it a huge mistake of the guy returning the lob to hit it at the opponents net player who can then smack it down to win the point? Shouldn't they have played neutrally and hit it back to the base line player or, better, play a cross court lob which would mean the opposing player would have to run to the ball and hit a difficult high backhand?
Great tip. Maybe Scott was a bit too close to the net, as the lob wasn’t super deep?
What if the ball is tracking out and you are watching it and you point your finger (out) before it hits the ground. Not verbal but point?
Did the ball land out eventually?
Works wonders!
The crossing base liner crossed the return directly into the opponent net player... had he played parallel, the point would have continued.I guess...
You’re correct. But the SP has no control over his partner. Nor does he have control over whether the lobber follows the lob up to service line. It’s simple, when you’re lobbed move back to the baseline.
So true. If you are running to cover a lob on your backhand, ... lets get realistic. Unless you are a pro doubles player this is a desperation shot that could go anywhere
Yep... thanks so much!
Combine this "toes on the service line" after hitting sky high "slow" lob (your other recent video) and the probability of winning the point goes up dramatically, I would think.
Better than what I experience at social where I switch and the net player stays in the same spot and I have to run back to my original side of the court to get the inevitable ball, which went to the open court. 😂
hahaha yeah that's never good
I think the whole reason for SP to go back to base line because he becomes defensive situation. Since S will lop back, and SP will be attacked by both R and RP.
correct
The net player could have been one or 2 steps behind the base line and would never hit that ball. He looked around turning his body 180 degrees, causing him to lose his balance. Even if he sprinted back toward the base line, he was toast.
The lob was not an attacking lob, and the returner didn’t come in. A simple cross court lob or deep ball down the line resets your team quickly.
I agree you should back off the net. But when the ball is over my head as the SP, I’m calling switch immediately and getting to behind the box without looking back.
The biggest rec issue I see in doubles is the net player watching their partner instead of the other net player’s eyes.
Should yelling "switch" be necessary? Isn't "Yours" better? If the ball goes over my head, I MUST switch. "Yours" or "You" emphasizes strongly my surrender of the ball to my partner.
Maybe I don't understand your question, but isn't "switch" indicating that you are literally gonna play the rest of the point from the other side v. "Yours" which is more for balls that are in the middle with the idea that both players will recover back to the side they were on originally?
I think that you are right about switch, but You or yours means just that. I have no play on the ball, and I am leaving it to you. Maybe it's yours because I'm out of position. Maybe it's over my head. Maybe I swallowed a bug. Whatever - I'm NOT going for the ball. It is then my responsibility to put myself in my best position for any shot that might come back after you, my partner, hits the current ball - but we don't need to talk about where that might be now. I prefer it because it's emphatic and clear and doesn't require much thought which I don't do well. The fewer words the better. (I could be wrong). @@SmashTheNumbers
So you see it all, but pros dont do this. K.
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