Return to Lynyrd Skynyrd Crash Site Metal Detecting 2020 (Minelab Vanquish)
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- This is the return to the Lynyrd Skynyrd crash site metal detecting in March 2020 using the new Minelab Vanquish metal detectors. During this second trip, we have an incredible and unbelievable find from the crash location of the Convair CV-240 which was the last flight of the southern rock and roll band Lynyrd Skynyrd. The flight went down on October 20, 1977, and took with it band members Ronnie Van Zant, Steve Gaines, Cassie Gaines, assistant road manager Dean Kilpatrick as well as Pilot Walter McCreary and co-pilot William Gray. It would be remiss to not remember the pilot and co-pilot who lost their lives in this tragedy, as well. Lynyrd Skynyrd had multiple-hit southern rock classics such as Free Bird, Sweet Home Alabama, and Tuesday's Gone. The History Seekers have never sold any of their relics and that remains true in the case of this dig.
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We would like to thank Debbie Smikoski from Minelab for bringing the new Vanquish 440 and Vanquish 540 Pro Pack for us to test on this historic dig. Link in pinned comments for more info on the Vanquish.
If you missed the first video you can find the link to it below. It was recently featured in the March-April 2020 Edition of American Digger Magazine.
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History Seekers thank you guys will look it up after work
I would love to see you guys go to the original site of the 1969 Woodstock Music And Arts Festival. Would be super interesting to see what would be found.
History Seekers I did a bunch of research myself on this site. Planned on going. I live in Mississippi. I absolutely love y’all finds. I would so love to join you if you ever return to this historic site. Great work guys. Loved other video also. Just amazing. HH
History Seekers I’m a guitarist. That burn ointment could have well been used for there finger tips. Back in the 80’s we started using superglue to help the rawness of the finger tips. Now they actually sell a similar healing sealing product for just that. Amazing!!
I’ve always wanted to visit the site. I live in Arkansas, always been a huge Skynyrd fan. So they let you go to the site? I heard a Korean guy owns the land and wasn’t letting anyone on the property??
You got that right, I'm a survivor of the Skynyrd plane crash. The plane metal isn't a issue. If I see a personal item that will change everything. It's our belongings.
If anything personal is found we would make every attempt to return it to a survivor or family member.
I heard a survivor interview saying people looted everything the day of the crash including the ring off his hand. That is a sad reflection of what was important to some. The guy wasn’t dead and I think he said his watch too.
@@maurad5378 Many came to help and tried to save lives but you always have bad (and bigoted) people too. I`ve performed before and desperately needed the money I earned but had my tip jar stolen. It`s a punch to the gut to be robbed.
Glad you made it
Lost two good friends in a really bad car accident.
June 89.
I went to the site a few weeks ago and there's still pieces of the car there.
God i miss the boys.
RIP Scott and Doug.
Sorry to hear that. What did you find? I have a friend that died nearby in an accident 17 years ago. Your comment has me thinking to go and look
Billy Powell said "a thousand baseball bats" or similar. The trees literally pureed the aircraft into hundreds of pieces the size of a matchbook. It's a miracle anyone survived at all.
yes the force they hit those trees was unbelievable for sure.
Tis tragic yet amazing how some of the passengers walked away with no injuries while others were killed on impact. Billy Powell said Ronnie was killed instantly from a massive head wound from a tree branch, his surviving family were apparently offended by this and released an autopsy report that concluded he succumbed to suffocation from debris that piled on top of him. Road manager Dean Kilpatrick and guitarist Steve Gaines were supposed impaled by a table on impact, and the back up singer, sister of Steve Gaines, Cassie, was almost decapitated according to Powell (as a piano player, one of my favorites. RIP Billy, others should know he meant no harm and regretted recalling this horrible scene the way he remembered it) . The band was going to ditch this plane, and this happened after the band released what I feel was their best work to date. As a yankee rock lover who liked Zeppelin, Rush, Aerosmith, Hendrix, the WHO, and yes, Neil Young, etc I still loved 'you got that right' and 'what's your name' along with sweet home, free bird, and others that didn't get much air play (every mother's son, one more time, etc). Southern rock. Long live Skynyrd and the Allman Brothers. Thanks for bringing some light to this tragedy, so many have some level of love for these guys, of course we seek closure to this loss because we love and respect these guys who made and make such a difference in our lives. not out of morbid curiosity. I think they would want us to know their final stories. I understand there is so much infighting in the ensuing years. Hopefully some day soon they will let it go and be a model for us during these trying and stressful times. Love and forgiveness.
Lynyrd Skynyrd keyboardist en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Powell "As time went by I’d kinda forgiven Ronnie for [knocking out] my teeth, but right before the plane crash I was getting really fed up with it all. The strangest memory of my life is that when that plane came down I wasn’t knocked unconscious like all the rest, 1 of my first thoughts was: ‘Thank God it’s over - I don’t have to get beaten up anymore'.. It didn’t last long, of course. I wanted the beating to stop, but not like it did"
@Burr Anderson, sarcasm? You really don't know?
It would be cool if they found an old les paul or strat. Or a microphone but that stuff has probably been picked over.
I'm glad you guys are able to dig the crash site and save what you can from that tragic day in history. Means alot to all the Skynryd fans!!
Thank you Alan. Check the original video from our first trip there if you haven’t seen it yet.
It’s sad because the survivors tried to do this and were denied to bring metal detectors. They are angry this group was allowed to do this and they were they ones that survived and lived through this
@@HistorySeekers Hi,I been watching couple little things Never knew u existed and were digging on that horrible day! What do u do with what u find? It's so Brutal!! Ty
I'm amazed that the S.O.B. that owns it would let anyone in there. The POS shot artimus Pyle in the stomach with a shotgun.
so weird look i no lets sell them on the internet
Could you imagine what music we'd have if they never crashed? So tragic. They were the best. They'll live forever through their music!
Best rock band every. We all grew up on their music.
Something tells me they wouldn't have been around much longer..it seems arguing and breaking up would've been inevitable
chills...to see the pieces that broke away..I love the respect you guys show in your videos!! Great one as usual!
Thank you!
Thank you!
I am so absolutely blown away by this! Good job guys! I’m ex Air Force and understand most of what you found so I really appreciate you guys doing this. Back “in the day”, Skynard was my thing so you can imagine how this made me feel. Wish I could have been on site with y’all 👍🎸🎼🤘
Thank you
We know from the crash story that the plane hit the trees while trying to crash land. That means the plane had to have been hitting the tops ot the trees, middle of the trees, etc, on the way down. It's not like the plane just crashed completely RIGHT THERE. I wonder how much debris is still underground along the path that the plane was clipping the trees before the final "crash?"
It stretches for a distance but most of the items related to the crew, cockpit, and passenger cabin are in the area that were were focusing on. As we worked back toward the rear it was just pieces of metal from the exterior of the plane. We did not show all of that, well, because all the pieces were similar and repetitive. If you saw our first video here, we later released the uncut version of it which shows more of that other types of items found. Check it out if you haven't seen them.
@@HistorySeekers Awesome. I watched first video but not extended version. VERY cool videos, btw! I was watching another doc about the crash since I commented here earlier. I think it was Gene Odom who mentioned that when they first started clipping the trees on the way down it wasn't so bad. But when they got closer to the ground and started hitting the trees down lower it got VERY violent. That makes sense with what you're saying about the debris scatter too I guess.
That...is clled a "debris feild" and like a meteorite will start at a single point and widen and lengthen out in a pyramid or conical shape across the ground.
That path was about 400 yards if I recall from the accident report.
Thank you for brining us a some of the historical finds you found at the crash site. I have watched both of the videos and it brings chills to me when y'all show these little pieces of history.
Thank you for watching and commenting. We appreciate the support.
Do you know they denied survivors from the plane to take metal detectors in there to find pieces of the plane?? Those survivors are pissed that this group was allowed in to do this but not the people who actually went through this and survived and lost people close to them.
Wow, this is crazy! Years ago as a young man I was applying for a job offshore and a couple of guys came in wearing Lynyrd Skynyrd 'Crew' shirts. I asked them... Did you guys work for LS? They said 'No. The plane crashed nearby our property. There were T-shirts, guitars, personal items etc., EVERYWHERE!' I thought 'Damn'. Now over 40 years later I'm watching this.
Mustang Writer Holy Crap!!!!!!
There are still survivors would love their item returned. Like Mark Howard from Texas he was on that plane. He was the lightning man. Check out his channel. Backstage. Just saying 🇺🇸
Seeing the fern growing where a part of the instrument panel was dug reminds me of "Where the Red Fern Grows." It's thought that a fern grows where a lot of love is buried.
Thanks for watching
It is awesome that you guys are still finding artifacts from the tragic crash on that fateful day. I wonder if any surviving members of Lynyrd Skynyrd have watched your videos.
thank you
Skynyrd is the best band ever. They’re just free as a bird
You are right. Such a horrible loss
Tragic but definitely not best band ever. Southern rock probably.
.......i see what ya did there. Nothin gets past me ill tell ya
You got that right!
I remember that night that happened. very sad.
Presumably NTSB crew got enough to figure out what happened, but I sure wouldn't expect them to find every single square inch of the plane, even today.
Boyd, D.E.
The green primer was used to help the paint stick on the plane! I used to paint aircraft and the white or gray was used as away to prevent radar from not being able to detect the plane. It was also used as a camouflage tool. Green prime was also used to protect electronics in aircraft and keep the temperature down inside aircraft.
No such thing as “got it all” in a violent plane impact. You can hunt that site for years, and will continue to find random pieces. Very interesting video.
imagine what an archeology dig would find. 1,000 years from now somebody may have a reason to dig in that site.
Right Idk what these guys expect..
Thats what i thought. 40 years of rain and floods sinking and raising pieces.
I went there a week or so after the crash, maybe a little longer. There were no investigators, nobody cleaning anything up -- it was already gone. I had been out of town at a place called Millington -- but when the weekend came around I went back down there. I was living about 9 miles due south of the place. I didn't see anything except a big old hole in the woods, and I turned my Gold Wing over on a little hill and couldn't pick it back up without flagging some guys down to help me.
Memories from a long time ago.
As long as the families of the dead are cool with it (and apparently they are if they want to put the relics in a museum), I think it is a great thing to find these pieces that would have just rotted in the ground otherwise. I have watched both of your videos on the crash site and maybe someday I will have a chance to see the items you found in a museum. That's an opportunity that I and lots of other fans would never have if it were not for your efforts. Thanks for the videos and giving people a chance to someday see in person these pieces of rock history!
Thank you for the support Jim. Yes we spoke with one of the family members a while back and told them to just let us know when they open the museum.
Rock and Roll hall of fame Cleveland would be good curaters........@@HistorySeekers
I would die to have a piece of that plane, being a huge skynyrd fan and a history buff, would add to my collection of historical items.
Thank you for watching.
@@HistorySeekers as always my friends. I need to start another channel just for metal detecting.
@@HistorySeekers you should also metal detect the buddy holly plane crash site in Iowa
Pay the land owner money to detect on it. Money talks.
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Hey just an idea you may want to check the trunk of the bigger trees. The reason being a friend of mine was in a bad street bike accident and they found his front brake caliper embedded into a tree about 1/8 of a mile down the road. I can almost bet that's the same case here at this crash sight. Just a thought good luck of your findings.✌🏼
This is such an unbelievable video Lynyrd Skynyrd are one of my favourite bands of all time and Free Bird is one of my favourite songs. Thank you very much for sharing this incredible content. You now have a new subscriber.
Thank you for watching and subscribing! They will always be one of my favorite bands!
Welcome! Thank you for watching. Be sure to check the first video we did from there. We found a beer that may have been from the band.
Thank you!
Thank you for realizing the historical aspect to the site. No matter what people's opinions on the crash site are, it appears to be someone's private property and they control access to the site. It would be nice if Judy or the Skynyrd group would purchase the wooded area and deem it a sanctuary.
Take a shot of whiskey each time he says "They said they recovered everything".
He’s as dumb as dirt
I would be HUMBLED walking around that area. Having permission to detect the area is insane! I grew up on the band and that story. Thank you for bringing us to the actual site!!
Thanks for watching.
permission, lol. I would fly over the site many times in the early 80's when I flight instructed taking students into MCB. For a couple years you could see the ground scar. I didn't visit the site at ground level until the later 80's. Found many pieces with no metal detector as the ground churns up pieces that were buried in the crash.
@@skyboy1956 wow..did you take any pics of the ground scar? That'd be something..
The part that says "push to adjust" is from the altimeter, or the heading indicator. On an altimeter, you use it to set the pressure for the atmospheric conditions around you so the altimeter reads right. On the heading indicator, you use it to set the heading indicator when you line up on the runway so the indicator matches the runway heading. What a cool find!
Thank you!
loved the first trip...this one is fantastic...you're digging up Rock History !!
Thank you so much!
If you look back on some of the old videos, they said they buried most of the little things that were left
HISTORY, SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK THIS IS MORBID, BUT I SEE IT AS WHAT THE NTSB DID NOT FIND, OR DID NOT CARE TO LOOK FOR, SO WHAT A ROCK AND ROLL BAND HAD A MISHAP, OH WELL, LET'S MAKE A GOOD INTERVIEW AND CALL IT A DAY, WELL IT MATTERS TO ME, I LOST FRIENDS THAT DAY, AND I CARE STILL TO THIS DAY, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS, IT SHOULD MEAN A LOT TO MANY PEOPLE, MAY THEY ALL R.I.P., THEY HERE HUMAN BEINGS THAT LOST THIER LIFE, PERIOD, MAY IT BE A ROCK BAND OR FRANK SINATRA, COUSIN FIGEL
Thank you for watching. We too see it as a follow up investigation that should have been done better.
Just took a motor bike ride with friends to the memorial site. It was very nice memorial to honor them. Didn’t know people could metal detect there. That would be so cool.
The actual crash site is posted property. The memorial isn’t where the crash actually happened.
This was extremely interesting and sad at the same time...
Surprised Judy Van Zant hadn’t tried to stop this.
Great Video! Thanks again guys I had a blast and Thanks to Kevin Bob he’s the man!
Thanks brother! Happy that you made it out with us. Congrats on the civil war bullet too! I heard yall had fun.
Thanks! It was great to meet you and hunt with you!
The primer is called Zinc-Chromate. the primer starts to turn brown at 350F
Thank you
The oil temperature gauge is simply amazing, what a find.
We thought so too. Wish we could find the fuel gauge.
It is an amazing find!
It's definitely not the oil gauge..just look at the freeze frame with the piece they found ..the 2 middle numbers are much farther apart on the piece they found then the oil gauge pic
d cy that is why we are leaning toward the oil temp. What do you think?
@@fcukyou2_ It looks like it tops out at 150º-160º, which seems low for oil temperature, but maybe aircraft engines are different? I'm guessing you'd see something a little higher in a car's gasoline engine.
Love all the detail you put into your videos thank you for sharing I'm only been detecting since Christmas and find you guys so informative
Welcome Mark! If we can ever help please let us know. This is such a great hobby! If you are not in our Facebook group feel free to join. It’s listed as The History Seekers.
Having been a Naval Aviation Tech for 20 years, the one item you found that you weren't sure of the material it was made of but thought it was from the interior of the cockpit is a Micata block. Micata is a laminated none conductive material invented by Westinghouse used in aircraft as supports for wire bundles and tubing for fuel, hydraulics, and bleed air systems. The curve is where the bundle or tubing lays as it is supported throughout the aircraft.
Thank you for letting us know and watching. Be sure to watch our first video from this site. We found many other items that we are looking for help getting identified.
Yes micarta made by westinghouse
Could be bakelite but you can tell if you look close and micarta has layers
Really cool site and video! My blind self needs that metal detector haha 1 button and done, that’s right up my alley! 😎 Great video!
Man when you come out with us we will get you fixed up.
Haha! Join Scott and Heath and their endless squinting because they forget their cheating glasses! 🤓
Kelly - History Seekers Hahaha
Thank you!
N.T.S.B. or some good hearted southern folk ?
I'm going with the latter.
As a Floridian and a L.S. fan, thank you. Proud to be a Rebel cause the souths gonna do it again.
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God bless you all.
May they all be resting in peace.
As always Awesome video you always do a super job thanks for taking us along 😁
Thank you for the support Mary
Thank you!
When you guys said your searching for parts of the airplane, I thought maybe you'll find one or two tiny fragments, I mean, I've seen you already have 20 or more pieces, ntsb, wow, there's a wake-up call. Maybe because they were a rock band, I was 17 years old with long hair, and I can tell you that prejudice was alive and well, I'd love to be a fly and have heard what the ntsb and local cops and other assorted bullies had said under their breath. Anyway, thank you guys for putting the time and effort to uncover the lapse of those in charge back then. I'm grateful as a huge fan back in the 70's, they happened to be my favorite bands. 🙏
Thank you for watching John!
I've been to mccomb,Greenville sc,and visited the memorial garden in Jacksonville fla....I love the music and always have....Thank you for this guys
Thanks for watching. If you missed our first trip out there. Check that video out. We found even better stuff.
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Good times right there! Double trouble was a great tune!
You guys do a great job of saving these priceless pieces of american history. Thanks for all you do!
Thank you sir!
Thank you for watching!
What do you guys do with what you find?
My favorite band..that is awesome to find that stuff
Personally.... I think detecting a crash/fatal site is kinda like detecting in a grave yard. Bad JuJu comes with it
I guess other than the fact nobody has ever been buried there. But thanks for watching anyway.
Yeah like taking artifacts from the titanic.
@@HistorySeekers it's actually more bad energy than a graveyard imo, people's souls left their body at this place. If you believe in that sort of stuff ya know?
I wouldn't feel good about detecting where people lost their lives but that's just my opinion. Everyone is different
I kind of think it's a little bit morbid
This is where I found your channel and subscribed ! I have been very pleased with your channel as you explain what you find which is a big plus to me !
Thanks Steve!
Thank you so much Steve. Glad that you stuck around.
@@kellyhistoryseekers3090 you're welcome
@@HistorySeekers you're welcome ! You guys are great as you explain stuff that you find and the excitement that you show in your videos is that I look for in a good channel to watch !
Thanks for watching Steve!
Very very cool site! It is crazy that there are so many targets left there. Guess the technology back then with metal detecting was not very good compared to today. Awesome job guys!
Thank you for watching. Yes, tech has came a long way.
True. I also don't know how much they used metal detectors for these investigations back in the 70s.
@@historyseekersscott3672 They may have just walked the site and just picked up what they could see. Just seems like a lot of debris left behind. More for you to find I guess!
Thank you for doing this. This is so interesting to see, such an important spot for the history of American music
Thank you! Be sure to check out the first video that we did there. Some more amazing history. It is almost to 500,000 views on our first video from there.
The green paint is primarily zinc, they also used an orange zinc primer on military planes quite often. My guess is that might be a pressure gauge for fuel, or air, or oil, most likely? Could be temperature as well, but it looks like it maxes out at 150, so temp isn't as likely.
I’ve worked on an NTSB crash investigation (Charlotte NC). There is almost no chance that every piece of wreckage from a crash is recovered. Mainly as the investigation progresses causes are narrowed down, if a particular system of an aircraft ( fuel, electrical, engines, pneumatics, hydraulics...etc) is determined to be at fault the hunt will be on for the remaining components of that system, once recovered the search for parts and manpower allotted becomes reduced.
Understand. What are your thoughts from reading the reports from this case? Eye witness reports seeing leaking fuel and fire shooting from the engine. Yet it’s listed as pilot error for the most part estimating fuel consumption. Would be interested if you think finding more of the parts that had fuel on it then would have changed the outcome?
Very cool - the next best thing to being there. Hope y'all are staying healthy, thank you and best wishes!
Stay healthy Scott! If you have Facebook, please join our group there, the History Seekers.
Thanks Scott. Yes we are doing well. We have enough video to edit to stay inside a couple more weeks.
Thank you Scott! Same to you and yours!
Great job guys. Hey Heath, looks like your investigator skills are still going strong. Nice to see once again, Civil War items are not the only history in our back yards. Now find the Emilia Airhardt plane.
Thank you William. Yes, once a cop always a cop I guess. We would love to find more places like this outside of our usual civil war sites.
Thanks for watching!
An aircraft crash site is rarely clinically cleaned and you will always find small bits. The investigators normally know what they are looking for, the rest is left on site.
Peter, we would agree but you should see some of the pieces also found in the first video. Keep in mind we were out there less than 2 hours each time.
my dad was on rescue and we lived close by and I remember walking with my dad to the crash site the next morning such devastation and the smell of airplane fuel and alcohol hydraulic fluid feel the air there were lots of beer cans and things scattered around and being 15 years old at the time I'll never forget that day such a shame that the landowners won't let family members go back there.. but it is so hard to access and there's only one way in and one way out and it is on private property there is a chicken farm there and he truly doesn't want people to desecrate the site.. he is a good man you just have to know him
I'll bet the landowner has a garage full of Peavey gear with some scratches but fully functional.
Amazing!! I am going to order a devise and get into the woods with the kids this summer!!
Jim, if you want a super deal give us a call. Mention that you are a subscriber. 256-284-2247
Do it! It is great for fresh air and exercise!
Saddest day in rocknroll history if you ask me
Interesting second video. Debbie is lovely, I met her at the Toronto, Canada Vanquish launch. Great machine.
Andrew, yes Debbie is a great friend and we love when she is able to come to dig with us.
That is a sacred site!!
Yes it is
I'm a history addict, and agree that this is a secret site. But unfortunately there are thousands of sites and places that death has occurred and many of us don't even know or realize these places. and that's what makes addiction so crazy because that's something else I study about and spirit possession and addiction go hand in hand period our bodies were made to house a soul so yes there are souls and spirits out there that can take over the soul that's in your body if you don't put your foot down about it and make changes kind of thing. And sacred land brings me to think about the Indians and all of the death but it's not only the Indians it's so much death before then and before then and then before then period all over the world. There's nothing but different time frames were a bunch of people have died and souls are just floating up in the droves. Just so the world knows it's very important that you learn astral travel so you can control your soul and that you learn Ascension so you know what to do there's a part of you that's going to know what to do when it comes your time to pass on. the big dilemma here is either the souls get taken down to the roots or the souls just keep floating up higher than high and go away so high that their energy ball just starts collecting dust and you turn into an asteroid and then that collects you know more and more and more and I think that's what the asteroids are is just floating souls that are stuck there and then they crash down to the Earth and they're rocks and I think all the souls are in these rocks and I think that River rocks are possibly just souls that floated up collected a bunch of debris and the outer space and then they come crashing down. To me every square inch of this land is sacred and the concrete is really pissing the Earth off cuz it covers it. I don't know if anybody has ever had a Band-Aid that just won't stay on but that's what concrete is to the Earth and one day it's just going to erupt that's what earthquakes are all about it's just a big air bubble of airborne mold or airborne bacteria and it just creates a big air bubble down there and it actually is physically something but when that something decides to leave that area then poof there's nothing holding it up and you got yourself a gigantic sinkhole. Where I live there's a ton of caves and mining caves for Miles underneath this dirt and all you got to do is run some leaky water for days and all that stuff is going to cave in so it makes sense to me how California could just slip off the land because of the fault level so if anybody were to attack the fault line it sink the whole state the California . The funny thing is I constantly hear water gushing underneath the dirt it's like a heavy flow of a creek or something like a heavy flow like out of a dam so I don't know why there's so much of that that I hear because it's definitely not the freeway.
Remember it's United we stand and divided we fall forever more worldwide. This is God's Game of Life everybody. It's up to us to make the changes. Killing somebody because of land is not the answer we already know that. And we've just got to pray to God that the people can understand this this is no joke because this is not just a small section of the world that is going to be into havoc it's going to end up just killing the whole planet and all the people on it and that is going to be one sacred planet if we don't do something about it. I choose to live I want to live I'm 57 years old and I just started living. Let's see if we can hold hands and go twice around the world and be different . Happy holidays and God bless to everyone.
Really enjoyed the video! What an amazing opportunity to be able to hunt this site for a second time. Incredible finds.
Thank you! Kelly wrote a great article on it in the magazine also. Not sure if you saw that one.
I don't find it very surprising at all that you are finding items. A plane hitting the ground and busting up like that is going to leave bits and pieces everywhere. Add to it that the technology your using is unbelievably better than what was available back then. But awesome video! I am hooked on our channel!
Thank you Travis.
You are right. Thank you!
Great finds everyone, there is no telling what is of there. Enjoyed the video and as always be Safe and HH my friends.
It has surprised us both times we went.
The property is fenced off with Barbed wire and no trespassing signs. the man that owns the property does not give permission .people have offered money to go out there and he says no. I don't know how you guys got out there.
Well that is not the section where the crash happened. But we have exclusive permission and just have to notify them each time before we go. We have a well established reputation and have worked on project to include Andersonville Prison with NPS archaeologist.
@@HistorySeekers That's awesome.my buddy went out there years ago And he couldn't get permission he even offered money to somebody and they said no .so that's cool you have that kind of trust. thank you
@@HistorySeekers I live in Baton Rouge and visited the site this weekend and talked to rescuer Jamie Wall, and board member Krystina. I would love to join y’all with my ACE 250 if you go again, I was unaware y’all came but spoke to Jamie about recovering some pieces for their proposed museum shadow boxes. Let me know thanks. Chad
The burn ointment, if it is a piece of the crash, could most likely have already been on rhe plane with other equipment. There were a couple road crew members on the flight i believe. One of a "roadies" responsibilitys is to keep cords, cables, guitars, and amps funtioning. That requires ALOT of soldering, wich leads to ALOT of burns. Our sound guy did all our repairs, and thats somthing he experienced alot of. Burns from solder and the soldering iron. Just a thought to throw out there.
Great Job Gang. Awesome how Y'all are still finding parts to that tragic event so it's not lost forever.👍#seeker4life
Thank you!!!
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I still have the first or one of the first, GT16000 machines that came to the states back in the 80's. Mine had failed and this was the dealer/importers personal machine they replaced mine with in Arizona. I still have it and it still works fine decades later. Been detecting since the 70's.
Amazing gauge find!!
yes, we were shocked to see that pop out of the ground.
It was awesome!
I wasnt born around the time the crash happend but me being a skynyrd fan and once I read up about the crash I always wanted to do this to see what I can recover
Great video heath ! great saves everyone !
Thank you Bill. Look forward to seeing you at the Chatanooga show this year.
Stay safe Bill! Hope the weather clears up so you can at least leave the house and dig!
Thank you!
Love it. Thank yall for doing this. Really enjoy watching.
Thanks Charles! Do you metal detect as well?
Charles thank you for watching and taking time to let us know that you liked it. That means a lot to us. Hope you enjoy our other videos. If you haven’t seen the first video from the crash site, we posted it in October.
Thank you!
No, I do not metal detect. Never had the chance. Looks like a lot of fun.
at minute 720 the brown piece looks to be made of BAKELITE which was used on alot of electrical parts thru the 1020's to end of the 1950's...by the way i saw them june 16th 1977 at the nassau coliseum...4 months later i was sitting in my car crying...brutal
When they loaded the wreckage I'm sure lots of pieces of the metal were accidentally buried by the equipment used to lift the pieces up and haul them away.
Be sure to check out our first video from that site. th-cam.com/video/r1hlCkoSr4E/w-d-xo.html
Definitely more there! Good job team!
Thanks Jon
Very interesting area to bring history to light. Nice finds, be well.
Thank you. Be sure to check out our first video. From this site. It has almost 400,000 views currently. Some amazing finds in it too.
This is one of the greatest yet at the same time one of the saddest videos I have watched in awhile. I was enthralled for sure. I can’t believe I got to watch this like I was there with you. Thank you so much for filming this. Any why do you have less than 30K subscribers? What is wrong with people? I’ll be watching for future vids.
Thanks Denise. Most people are not interested in history I guess. We just crossed over 31k subscribers. We have almost 34k on facebook where we also release. Seems to be growing faster on Facebook for some reason.
So cool to be able to do that. Skynyrd is the reason I got into music.
Thank you for watching. Be sure to watch our first trip to this location. We found even more items.
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The large piece of white skin that Debbie found early in the video may well be a piece of one of the engine cowlings, maybe an access panel for routine checks and maintenance as it's a pretty regular shape unlike a lot of the other skin fragments you've found which were all smashed and torn. The large, water-filled hole next to where she dug that out looks very much like the type of crater that would be left by a large, heavy piece of an aircraft, like an engine, coming to rest from tumbling through after being torn away from the aircraft...
The button marked Push to drain is probably a drain cock from one of the fuel tanks where a pilot would drain off a small sample of fuel to check for water contamination before each flight. That certainly shows there was no post-crash fire, even a flash fire caused by fuel vapour igniting as the aircraft disintegrated, as, if there had been, that piece certainly wouldn't have survived in the condition it was found. This strongly suggests that the tank that this drain cock was fitted to was open to the air and had been purged of vapour before the crash, or had been totally dry for some time. If the tank was open to the air and had been fuelled then it rather makes you wonder if the aircraft was leaking fuel during the flight, which would have obviously had an adverse effect on its flight range...
The oil temperature gauge face is an interesting find as it definitely looks like a needle witness mark leading to the 0 mark, as you thought (I'm a traffic collision investigator so I'm used to looking for that sort of thing.) That tells an interesting story as, unless the gauge was not working, the only reason for that gauge to be showing zero when the aircraft was flying would be if the engine it related to was shut down and, quite possibly, had been shut down for some time before the crash as you would imagine that residual heat in the oil from an engine that had been running recently would still trigger a reading on the gauge, just like it would in your car if you shut the engine off and then turned the ignition back on. The needle being on a genuine 0 position indicates a stone-cold engine which is impossible on a correctly functioning aircraft that had flown the distance this one had before the crash. I can't imagine that the pilots would have flown the aircraft with a failed oil temperature gauge that was identified in pre-flight checks as that has the potential to result in an overheating engine leading to an engine fire, which is definitely not desirable in the air, so that only really leaves the options that the gauge failed in-flight, maybe due to an electrical issue that could have also effected the fuel gauges and, potentially, other panel gauges, or that one engine had been shut down some time before the crash, which is also significant as flying on one engine is going to significantly alter the handling characteristics of a twin-engine aircraft and have a significant impact on its range on the available fuel...
Thank you for a detail explanation and theory. Having some accident (vehicle) related experience we were trying to apply that logic to an aircraft. If you could feel free to contact me at heathjones@treasuremtndetectors.com . If you wouldn't mind, we may have some other questions for you in the future related to this site if we go back again. We appreciate your input! We may have a similar project in the future that we may need input on also.
I just read the crash report. It noted that the right engine was set to run rich by the crew to compensate for a misfire of some sort (which they had been doing for several flights apparently), which lead to excessive fuel consumption. My problem with that is that the plane supposedly had 900lbs of fuel, but should've only used roughly 600 during that flight. My guess is that the flight crew was telling the ground crew how much fuel to give them based on their improper calculating of how much they used on the previous flights, which was caused by the issues with the right engine. I just don't see how it could've used almost double the amount of fuel required in the amount of time they were in the air. However, the fact that that fuel drain knob was found makes me question the report's statement that "All of the fuel cross-feed and fuel dump valves were in the closed position." How did they know for sure, since one of the knobs was obviously missing?
IDK, I'm no airplane expert, but I do come from an automotive background. The report says that, in testing, the right engine's carburetor dumped too much fuel at low operating ranges, but within specs at higher ranges, so it did have some issues. It also said that the right engine's governor was missing a shaft bushing(!!). I wonder if that was causing the governor to allow the engine rpm to fluctuate, making the flight crew think it was misfiring when it wasn't, so they ran it rich thinking that would fix it. The problem with that is that apparently the spark plugs indicated that it wasn't running rich.
Joseph Yes it makes you question the report for sure. We were shocked to find what we have there. Not sure any of it would change the reports outcome but it does cast some doubt.
So you have deducted all of this from this short video of the crash site LMAO yeah ok pal. This site has been picked over for decades there's nothing new here. I wonder why no one is commenting on them trespassing on this heavily no trespassing posted area. This s a piss poor disrespectful commercial nothing more.
@@lskiller1903 how can you assume they didn't get permission to hunt the site? I'm sure they did. It's hard to sneak that many people into private property with machines that beep. Lol or did you just wake up angry the day you made this comment and decide to dump it here lol
I was there in 1993 and found 3 tortoiseshell guitar picks in a buttoned up leather pouch.
Hi kelly thank you for you reply I did see that from the video I hope when and if they developed this place they carefully remove that section of that tree god bless y’all and take care in this crazy time we are all in
Hopefully the tree will be preserved or left standing in place.
Sorry that I missed that part of your question earlier. Yes it is still there. We just couldn’t get across the creek to it this time.
That's The oil temperature gauge
They will never find all the pieces to an airplane crash! It’s good to take an in-depth picture of the plan’s interior and fuselage to a crash site to get an idea of what parts you find.
I would have loved to have taken my metal detector out there because you really never find everything unless you have a metal detector because things get stuck in the ground and getting covered up by Leaf litter and things like that. The undertaking it must be to not only investigate a plane crash but to clean up the debris. I doubt they get everything even today. The one thing that you have to recognize at that site is people died there and that is a very somber feeling. I am a retired Paramedic/Firefighter and every time I drive by sites that I worked accidents I still remember after 23 years the things that happened there and what I saw. Some places I try not to think about especially when children were killed.
Those floppy black pieces with the rivets you were finding could be the material around the throttle levers . If you look at pics of the convair cv 240 cockpit, you can see that black, soft material riveted to the panel that the throttle handles and levers come up out of.
thank you
Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
Thank you for watching
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You found a tube of burn ointment. Gene Odem who handled security for the group was on the plane and survived but he had severe phosphorus burns on him from the emergency flares of the plane. He talks about on a few interviews.
Great vid guys! very interesting place to hunt! GL & HH
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Wow... just some surface dirt and it rubbed off so easily after decades.... cool.
on one of the interviews one of the survivors did on u tube about the crash. I am thinking it was Ron Eckerman said that there was a briefcase on the plane with a million dollars in it that was never recovered from the crash. It is sad but because of the crash someone got rich that night while those survivors were laying there suffering and fighting for their lives and the 6 that died were being carried out. No one will ever know who it was because they aren't going to come forward and admitt that they stole all that money from Ronnie and the band.
Thanks for sharing the hunt and finds. Debbie has an awesome job. Goodluck, happy hunting and take care.
Yes she does and she is an incredible asset to Minelab. I have worked with many people from that company in the past and she has been the best by far.
@@HistorySeekers , I believe I talked to her on the phone and she is very nice and an asset to the company. Take care.
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Great! Digging up forensic history and momentous treasure! Y'all take care.
Thank you for watching. Be sure to watch our first video from this location.
Leaving me hanging on the button. Great hunt y’all
it was a jeans button that basically came apart on cleaning. No way to say for sure who it belonged to. I forgot to add the text in at the end.
We will share any info we discover on the button.
This is neat,I know someone who loved their music. Great entertainment watching this. God bless you all. Nannie
They were the best band ever.
There's something surreal about this. To think, all recovered pieces were just scrapped and now, endless effort to find fragments. Fans would have given anything for a part of it. But scrap ?? Seems just wrong.
we agree.
I was in the military. I worked and painted military aircraft. We always removed rusted and corrosion down to the bare metal. Next we treated the metal then primed and painted the aircraft panels.
thank you for your service.
Great program tonight on the American Digger Spreaker broadcast. Great video also.
Thank you Denny. Be sure to go see the first video where the can and control panel were found. That video is almost to 400,000 views now.
Thank you!
Wow and they said they got everything you guys rock
Thank you!
Thank you!
Be realistic will you, how could they have "got everything"?? What they meant was they got everything they needed to ascertain what happened.
Here's a question about metal detecting in general.
Will a metal detector pick up gold or silver over a shallow stream ( not actually immersed in the water , but above it ) ???
Yes it will
Burn Cream: There was one man severely burnt. He was trapped under a wing and a flare ignited and burnt out his eye, a hole in his wrist, arm and right ear.
That would've been Ronnies best friend Mr. Gene Odom believe he was in charge of security.
Yes, Mr.Gene Odom had burns. He was Ronnies childhood friend and head of security I believe. Awesome guy, you can hear his stories on youtube as well.
Alan, I had forgotten about reading that. You are right! I am not sure if that is what it was from or not. Kelly found the same item listed as part of a first aid kit dating to the early 1950s. I suspect it could have been a first aid kit from the plane. Hard to say.
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