This is what's on my door and on most doors in my country (Switzerland). I feel much saver knowing it took this guy a few seconds more to pick than usual.
Just turn the key halfway after locking from the inside. But I am also surprised at how fast he picked that lock. I thought we had the safest locks in the world.
Yes, I can confirm that this lock is for sure one of the most common locks in Switzerland. With no surprise though, since they are a swiss lock mechanism with good reputation and not crazy expensive.
@@disgruntledwelsh3817 just arrived home from Wales last night. Played crazy golf in the horrendous rain. I won too, not to the last hole and suggested all our nothing on the last hole. My son in law got a hole in one. Darn you Llandrindod Wells charity 9 hole crazy golf. 🤣
Sky173 the tricky bit of the reassembly, the only one that really matters that you dropped the lot, is when you put the key in the cylinder and then put all the keypins in it in such a way that they’re all at the shearline when the key is inserted. Apart from that, reassembly is the same as normal.
as a n00b I have seen a lot of gutting videos, but not a single assembling video. It would be nice to see how it is easily done, without springs flying all over the place :D
These locks were never intended to be keyed by a dealer, rather they were keyed at the factory in Switzerland and key blanks were never issued, only cut keys.
Kaba 8 keys may be reproduced by anybody, Kaba 20 and Kaba Star are protected, replacement keys are manufactured on demand, with a very brief turnaround, too. What another neo is referring to is likely the setup used to make Kaba 8 keys.
Usually when a lock puts up a "fight" for him, he makes one or two drops, or encounter multiple false sets, so I was pretty surprised that he didn't run into any issues even once. Let alone on the raking bit. Nevertheless, a complex, precision lock like this will certainly put up quite the fight for most skilled lockpickers.
I think I have seen Bosnianbill attack these with a cheap Chinese dimple rake that rakes both sides and the top at the same time. These fall pretty bad to those with almost no skill, despite their formidable construction.
Geyote Pilkington No, I meant that picking locks based on how long it takes a skilled lock picker to get through is a pretty bad idea. There aren’t very many people who have the same amount of skill or who have the same tools as LPL.
Until you mentioned the assumed difficulty of putting this lock back together after gutting, I had never even thought about your putting all those locks back together. I appreciate your dedication to teaching us about these locks!
Hey LPL, A few years ago i bought my first lock picking set and locks because you made me interested in lock picking. I only had a little bit of time to play around with it however before i got in to an accident. This accident left one of my arms to be permanently paralyzed. I'm still interested in picking locks and have seen a few video's of people picking with one hand. I was wondering, if you're in for a challenge, if you could show the possibilities when picking one handed and hopefully give me the motivation to get some good picks, locks and a vice.
not that hard to do with a custom bent prybar and top of the keyway tension, just need to play around with the angles until you find something that lets you use your pinky or ring finger to tension with.
Impressive, please try the kaba star.... Its pins are arrayed radiantly in 8 rows... I'm seeing this KABA 20 has only 4 rows, two of which have only one pin there, that's why you're luck with the manipulation
You're right this is unusual as only 12 pin holes drilled in the core.... Only possible reason: this cylinder probably is at the lowest tier of a master key system... so it won't deploy all the 20 pin holes on the core. Compared to the regular serrated flat key system(as widely used in the us), kaba's master keys have always one shear line, while the flat keys have multiple shear lines as a result of stacking key pins to operate with keys with different key bit depths in the same position - this is linear and sabotages security gravely ... The kaba cylinder is manipulating its pins hole quantities and locations to make master key instead of stacking key pins, which is dynamic and versatile... The regular key differ cylinders could use up to 20 pin holes for ultimate security, and only reducing the pin hole quantitties to make master key... You know master keying brings convenience by compromising security, yet kaba manages to maintain the maximum balance of security and convenience, considering the least 12 pin holes are still above the security level of all the serrated keys.
Hey, I'm not sure if you already have this, but would you be willing to do a video on all the terms and lingo you use in all of y0ur videos? Thanks, keep up the great work!
It looks like something that you need to cut exactly like the designer want you to cut or it will not gonna be effective... so i dont think that LPL will be good tester as he likes to use his brain.
On top of that this company is seling tytanium as something that is stronger than steel... aluminium as something that is cut resistant... ROTFL its company for people that are happy to spend hundreds of $ and in the same time cannot afford 2 minutes in wikipedia where you can check how strong this metals are.
Thank you! I was about to send you one of these from my grandparents’ flat block in Switzerland. I was wondering how it would hold up against picking attacks
What really surprises me about the Kaba locks is how well the severely worn keys at work still function. So when I needed new locks, I bought Kaba ones. Also the keys fit both ways and have no sharp corners.
stefantrethan Also, since the keys are made of nickel silver, they don’t wear out as fast as, say, a cheap brass key. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_silver
@@tookitogo I didn't know that. Some of them have serious grooves worn into them, but they've been used many times a day, for decades. In a normal front door situation you couldn't wear them like that in a lifetime. I talked to a window and door installer the other day and he had some problems with dirt clogging up the Kaba key dimples. I can't say I ever encountered that, and he said it was easy enogh to remedy with a toothbrush, but annoying.
stefantrethan Indeed, the laws of physics still apply! But yeah, they’re incredibly well made. Every place I’ve lived in Switzerland has had Kaba locks, and I have to say I vastly prefer them over the typical locks in USA (the other country I’ve lived in a lot).
Kaba locks are extremely common here in Switzerland. Tight tolerances and great craftmanship, they are a good example of the legendary Swiss made reputation. In any case, that's all I have for you today...😎
Kudos, as a former employee in one of the subsidiary companies of kaba, i have been deeply impressed with the expertise of Switzerland precision machinery....i learned quite a lot of know-how from My colleague and friend Mr. Genewein, who is a long term veteran in kaba for over 40 years
Very nicely picked & a great tip there of using a rake to finish the job. I guess I better sling mine back in the vice & have another go. Have a great day.
I fitted KABA brand locks in my front door a few years ago so I was curious as to how long LPL would take to pick it. I probably made the right choice.
At one time, BMW used the automotive version of this lock, in their vehicles, during the mid-1970's. My dad's Bavarian CS had this style lock for the ignition, doors, & trunk. There was a couple different options, one of which was known as the valet key, which only operated the ignition & doors, but not the trunk. At the time, no local locksmiths could even pick the lock, let alone make a copy of the key. I believe my dad ordered a couple of spares, through the local BMW dealer, and they came directly from Germany. Interesting that I haven't seen a lock & key like this, in over 25 years. Thanks for sharing! :)
My Swiss coworker in kaba told me about their cooperation with BMW, the only concern is not picking, but the fact that a tiny grit in the keyway will inactivate the lock, that's why the autos are not using it on the doors, considering the environmental restraints
Two steps, one he'll have to load in the springs and upper pins back in the pin holes in the cylinder body(the un-rotary housing), he would have to install it inch by inch while plugging in a solid rod or tube simulating the core in order to properly seal the spring and upper pin pair into the pin cavity ... and second load in all the bottom/tumbler pins into the core with the key inserted in the keyway(so as to pinpoint the correct bottom pins to the corresponding depth of key bitting), and then, insert the core into the bore hole of the lock body by pushing the simulated rod all the way out.... In assembly production situation, there's a specialized fixture to make the job easier.
Took him forever to open! Like 2 + minutes! How the hell did he gut that and keep track of the pins? No way I’d even attempt to put it back together! Great picking as usual. Cool lock.
I noticed some cool new camera angles in this video. I know I'm a bit mad but it made me start thinking of a split screen 2 camera setup. The addition of a close up to reveal the subtleties in picking and personality of the lock... Much praise for your talent and generosity!
Very impressive, both by the LPL and the lock makers. Seeing the LPL pick pin after pin and then go; 'and here is where the Hollywood option comes in' is a testament to the lock type and just how well the makers have made this lock
With all those pins shooting off in every direction it might be helpful to have one of those Plexiglas boxes with arm holes to keep everything contained.
After watching your first vids recently, one can really tell a difference in speech delivery in old vs new vids. Much smoother now that you've got so much experience. Not that the first vids aren't good. They surely are. 👍 Can't thank you enough for this amazing content! Thanks!
Certain types of KABA locks/keys (not sure if it’s only for KABA 20) allows to have only 1 key that works for both appartment door and house door. So every tenant only ever needs 1 key and they cannot access each others appartment with the same key. I‘m sure there are other companies that do this too..
I'm not sure how much this has been brought up previously, if at all, but I would enjoy seeing a series where you would blindly pick locks going through the process of deciding what you would use and then your normal commentary.
Two minutes against LPL is good enough for my front door, in plain view of a busy street, in a neighborhood were people are wary of a strange face. Back door needs a little more security though.
I’d be curious to see a video on the mechanical difference between low and high precision machining in locks, and how that (mechanically) affects the attack options.
We use these where I work with master keying etc. brilliant locks and not cheap at all, I'm tempted to send a lock in to see if it could be picked, would be minus a key, but that's never stopped LPL!
A couple clarification for a whole picture - a retailed kaba 20 has up to 22 pins, this picking of a 12 pin cylinder proves no relevance: 1.it is modified. Standard kaba cylinder is modular as an individual unit with its own core and housing, and uses Nickle plated steel pins. This 12 pin cylinder replaces the regular circular housing for a big round shell with an eccentric bore and uses prolonged brass driver pins to accommodate the use in a mortise cylinder...there'd be impact on the effectiveness of spring compression which undermines pick resistance. 2.the minimal pin number of 12 and their array pattern suggest it is tailored for project use such as a central locking cylinder. Central locking enables mutual access by all the keys within particular series of keying or a master key system. For example, a master key managed building has a public room or shared area for all residents to enter, then the central locking cylinder will come into play that allows each key owner to access with their respective keys, no matter what tier their keys are postinged in the master key matrix (individual, sub-master or grand master). Situation like this didn't imply for an essential level of security. If you do want premium protection on those application, solution will be install a new lock and equip everyone with a new extra piece of key. I probably have to stop here for better not going deeper into the functional details of central locking.
An LPL video that lasts more than 10 minutes is such a rarity. Yet, the lock is open in closer to 2, after he says "I'm expecting a fight". Credit to LPL's humility, and to Kaba.
Gotta say i am a pretty new fan, i was curious, would we be able to see your full collection ? be interesting to see how many locks you actually have, how do you store them? racks?
The exact situation I just found myself in…. Am gonna give an update tho Hope I’ll find the fuxking key Edited 56 minutes after posting. I got my key, left it at work on my toolbox. I now attached 4 20mm Nuts on the keychain so I can’t miss it.
I just have to say it again. LPL is the best damn TH-camr out there. I've watched hundreds of his videos and he's wasted exactly none of my time. I wish other TH-camrs would follow suit.
Very interesting !!! I want to see how you do Kaba experT 22pins ! I tried to found it's in your video's but not see it lock ( . And that picking like every other your works, great ! I like to see your works ! Very right, very interesting . 👍👍👍👍👍
I have these everywhere throughout my property in Switzerland. I thought they were a Swiss only thing. Wondered why I was having so much difficulty picking them!
This one got picked has only 12 pin holes, it must be at the lowest tier of a master key system... the standard kaba 20 have upto 22 pin holes for a serial/non-master keyed cylinder...
This is the LockPickingLawyer and today I am standing in front of the White House and as you can see they use a abus lock model: 1234 which has quite a few flaws.....nothing at one, a little click out of two.....and there it is how to open the lock which the White House uses!
A question for the Lock Picking Lawyer; Do you believe it is possible to design a lock that is impossible to pick? If so how much do you think it would retail for considering the manufacturing cost? Thank you?
I've found that you can usually find a deep socket of the correct size to use as a follower if you don't have one or don't have the correct size follower. 👍 I'm sure you have deep sockets in your tools. Right? My biggest issue when I SPP is oversetting pins. What can I do to keep that from happening so much?
Excellent Video. Question is: Will you ever be able to get it back together? That would be an interesting vidio. What about poor Leim? Will he ever see it again?
What size are the plugs of these locks and wouldn't it be easier to make a follower than to try holding all the key pins in while loading the top pins and springs? Great video BTW and I like this technique of using the rake. I will have to try it.
I know many cores are 1/2". In Corbin-Russwin and some other brands, it is 9/16". The Kaba, I think is 7/16". The Abus 83 Series has a weird size core as well, I think it is 17/32".
These locks are on all our doors in Switzerland but the problem is if you lose your keys it costs you something like $300. Only the factory can make new keys. It's really unnecessary for a country that's extremely safe already. I find that these locks are important for your front door, but when they are on your mailbox which is already inside a locked building,.. I think they're made for making money for the lock makers!
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This is what's on my door and on most doors in my country (Switzerland). I feel much saver knowing it took this guy a few seconds more to pick than usual.
SEA keys are also quite common in Switzerland
Just turn the key halfway after locking from the inside.
But I am also surprised at how fast he picked that lock.
I thought we had the safest locks in the world.
Aju en schwiizer?😆 Ha noch kaba star gsuecht und das do gfunde..
Yes, I can confirm that this lock is for sure one of the most common locks in Switzerland. With no surprise though, since they are a swiss lock mechanism with good reputation and not crazy expensive.
LOL i was especially searching for him to break "swiss" door-locks :D Grüezi Grüezi
_"It's hard to explain how tight that feels"_
-LockPickingLawyer, 2019
She's a keeper!
And the eagerness. Totally NSFW
I knew a few like that! 🤭
Swiss precision
It's a precision fit.
So the computer gives a notification and its an LPL video of over 10 minutes!
What a treat for a wet windy Saturday in the UK!
are you watching it on computer too ? Those machines are incredible. You can read the mails, and you also have the TV function, just in case.
It's wet and windy here in Wales as well.
@@disgruntledwelsh3817 just arrived home from Wales last night. Played crazy golf in the horrendous rain. I won too, not to the last hole and suggested all our nothing on the last hole. My son in law got a hole in one.
Darn you Llandrindod Wells charity 9 hole crazy golf. 🤣
That’s odd, super sunny here in Scotland for once!
The weather will reach you eventually. Tell me when it does.
Great video but how about a video specifically on reassembling a lock if you accidentally drop all the pins.
There’s a very good reason he films himself disassembling the lock.
Corrael it also proves that he hasn’t messed with the internals to make himself look good
Sky173 the tricky bit of the reassembly, the only one that really matters that you dropped the lot, is when you put the key in the cylinder and then put all the keypins in it in such a way that they’re all at the shearline when the key is inserted. Apart from that, reassembly is the same as normal.
He mentioned before that he just replays the video he takes
as a n00b I have seen a lot of gutting videos, but not a single assembling video. It would be nice to see how it is easily done, without springs flying all over the place :D
These locks were never intended to be keyed by a dealer, rather they were keyed at the factory in Switzerland and key blanks were never issued, only cut keys.
Just like top-shelf Gerda or ABUS.
Well thats wrong. I know in switzerland many dealers who can make you as many keys for these locks, the just need the kaba Machine.
@@anotherneo231 so en seich blabberisch du da..
@@rolexmike auso bim schlüsselmacher hei mr au scho ersatz schlüssel gmacht weiss abr nid öb er si kauft het odr selber nochgmacht
Kaba 8 keys may be reproduced by anybody, Kaba 20 and Kaba Star are protected, replacement keys are manufactured on demand, with a very brief turnaround, too.
What another neo is referring to is likely the setup used to make Kaba 8 keys.
LPL: "I am expecting a fight"
Also LPL: (opens lock in 2 minutes)
To be fair, 2 LPL minutes picking equals about 15 minutes for a locksmith and 45 minutes for a hobbyist...
Usually when a lock puts up a "fight" for him, he makes one or two drops, or encounter multiple false sets, so I was pretty surprised that he didn't run into any issues even once. Let alone on the raking bit.
Nevertheless, a complex, precision lock like this will certainly put up quite the fight for most skilled lockpickers.
@@eak125 And the average criminal would probably give up and find a less secure house to break into.
@N Webb Especially if it's a lockout. Having someone hover while you try to pick/bypass is an extra level of stress that ruins concentration.
It's sad to see that even a high pin count, security pins AND high precision machining means nothing for actual security.
If it takes LPL greater than 1 minute to pick this lock, I'm going to use this brand of locks on my EVERYTHING.
Depends where u live
That’s a terrible way of picking locks.
@@Crazimo i think LPL knows what he's doing..
I think I have seen Bosnianbill attack these with a cheap Chinese dimple rake that rakes both sides and the top at the same time. These fall pretty bad to those with almost no skill, despite their formidable construction.
Geyote Pilkington No, I meant that picking locks based on how long it takes a skilled lock picker to get through is a pretty bad idea. There aren’t very many people who have the same amount of skill or who have the same tools as LPL.
Until you mentioned the assumed difficulty of putting this lock back together after gutting, I had never even thought about your putting all those locks back together. I appreciate your dedication to teaching us about these locks!
Hey LPL,
A few years ago i bought my first lock picking set and locks because you made me interested in lock picking. I only had a little bit of time to play around with it however before i got in to an accident. This accident left one of my arms to be permanently paralyzed. I'm still interested in picking locks and have seen a few video's of people picking with one hand. I was wondering, if you're in for a challenge, if you could show the possibilities when picking one handed and hopefully give me the motivation to get some good picks, locks and a vice.
not that hard to do with a custom bent prybar and top of the keyway tension, just need to play around with the angles until you find something that lets you use your pinky or ring finger to tension with.
I have seen one of these guys using a weighted tension bar, perhaps that would help?
What happened?
How did you paralyze your arm? 🥺
"A lot of fun to pick open" and a M....R F....R to reassemble.
I don’t know why but I love when he says a pin is binding. Something so soothing about it lol
Impressive, please try the kaba star.... Its pins are arrayed radiantly in 8 rows... I'm seeing this KABA 20 has only 4 rows, two of which have only one pin there, that's why you're luck with the manipulation
You're right this is unusual as only 12 pin holes drilled in the core.... Only possible reason: this cylinder probably is at the lowest tier of a master key system... so it won't deploy all the 20 pin holes on the core. Compared to the regular serrated flat key system(as widely used in the us), kaba's master keys have always one shear line, while the flat keys have multiple shear lines as a result of stacking key pins to operate with keys with different key bit depths in the same position - this is linear and sabotages security gravely ... The kaba cylinder is manipulating its pins hole quantities and locations to make master key instead of stacking key pins, which is dynamic and versatile... The regular key differ cylinders could use up to 20 pin holes for ultimate security, and only reducing the pin hole quantitties to make master key... You know master keying brings convenience by compromising security, yet kaba manages to maintain the maximum balance of security and convenience, considering the least 12 pin holes are still above the security level of all the serrated keys.
Binge watching all of these and this is the first 10 minute video I've seen, it's incredible
I can't be the only one who wants to see you put this beast back together .
Hey, I'm not sure if you already have this, but would you be willing to do a video on all the terms and lingo you use in all of y0ur videos? Thanks, keep up the great work!
I second this
+1 on this!
As a novice locksport person I'd love LPL to do a few "lockpicking for dummies" videos!
@@kingey71 agreed
@Yacht46 Yeah I have watch a ton of his videos so I get the gist of what they mean but I've never actually picked a lock so it can be hard to picture
Pick the “Altor SAF Lock” they advertise it as grinder proof so let’s see how useful that is when someone tries to pick
XDaRkModzX - this lock looks like the future of padlocks and bike locks.
It looks like something that you need to cut exactly like the designer want you to cut or it will not gonna be effective... so i dont think that LPL will be good tester as he likes to use his brain.
On top of that this company is seling tytanium as something that is stronger than steel... aluminium as something that is cut resistant... ROTFL its company for people that are happy to spend hundreds of $ and in the same time cannot afford 2 minutes in wikipedia where you can check how strong this metals are.
Thank you! I was about to send you one of these from my grandparents’ flat block in Switzerland. I was wondering how it would hold up against picking attacks
What really surprises me about the Kaba locks is how well the severely worn keys at work still function.
So when I needed new locks, I bought Kaba ones. Also the keys fit both ways and have no sharp corners.
stefantrethan Also, since the keys are made of nickel silver, they don’t wear out as fast as, say, a cheap brass key.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_silver
@@tookitogo I didn't know that. Some of them have serious grooves worn into them, but they've been used many times a day, for decades. In a normal front door situation you couldn't wear them like that in a lifetime. I talked to a window and door installer the other day and he had some problems with dirt clogging up the Kaba key dimples. I can't say I ever encountered that, and he said it was easy enogh to remedy with a toothbrush, but annoying.
stefantrethan Indeed, the laws of physics still apply! But yeah, they’re incredibly well made. Every place I’ve lived in Switzerland has had Kaba locks, and I have to say I vastly prefer them over the typical locks in USA (the other country I’ve lived in a lot).
Kaba locks are extremely common here in Switzerland. Tight tolerances and great craftmanship, they are a good example of the legendary Swiss made reputation. In any case, that's all I have for you today...😎
Kudos, as a former employee in one of the subsidiary companies of kaba, i have been deeply impressed with the expertise of Switzerland precision machinery....i learned quite a lot of know-how from My colleague and friend Mr. Genewein, who is a long term veteran in kaba for over 40 years
I don't think I'm alone in this..
A time lapse outro of reassembly for some of these would be neat.
Wow, they should totally sell those kinds of locks as a 'self-assembly' Lego pack.
This videos are just the nicest and weirdest way to start a rainy weekend
Very nicely picked & a great tip there of using a rake to finish the job. I guess I better sling mine back in the vice & have another go. Have a great day.
Never getting tired of watching your videos and I so much enjoy listening to you voice 🤔😅
I fitted KABA brand locks in my front door a few years ago so I was curious as to how long LPL would take to pick it. I probably made the right choice.
You know a lock is secure when you need 2 different picks to defeat it!😆
At one time, BMW used the automotive version of this lock, in their vehicles, during the mid-1970's. My dad's Bavarian CS had this style lock for the ignition, doors, & trunk. There was a couple different options, one of which was known as the valet key, which only operated the ignition & doors, but not the trunk. At the time, no local locksmiths could even pick the lock, let alone make a copy of the key. I believe my dad ordered a couple of spares, through the local BMW dealer, and they came directly from Germany.
Interesting that I haven't seen a lock & key like this, in over 25 years. Thanks for sharing! :)
My Swiss coworker in kaba told me about their cooperation with BMW, the only concern is not picking, but the fact that a tiny grit in the keyway will inactivate the lock, that's why the autos are not using it on the doors, considering the environmental restraints
I've noticed Kaba dimple locks like these being used as escalator keys. They're extremely durable and reliable, hence the commercial use.
If I could have one wish, I think it would be to have all of the lockpicking tools and skill you have. You are truly amazing at this
If anybody wonder how much tension they need to apply, just look at your thumb turn white.
"So I'm expecting quite a fight"
It's like watching a nature documentary where the guy has to wrestle the animals he finds.
Now I'm curious how long it takes to put back together...
play the video in reverse if you know how to do it ?
I'd like to see that once.
Two steps, one he'll have to load in the springs and upper pins back in the pin holes in the cylinder body(the un-rotary housing), he would have to install it inch by inch while plugging in a solid rod or tube simulating the core in order to properly seal the spring and upper pin pair into the pin cavity ... and second load in all the bottom/tumbler pins into the core with the key inserted in the keyway(so as to pinpoint the correct bottom pins to the corresponding depth of key bitting), and then, insert the core into the bore hole of the lock body by pushing the simulated rod all the way out.... In assembly production situation, there's a specialized fixture to make the job easier.
Took him forever to open! Like 2 + minutes!
How the hell did he gut that and keep track of the pins? No way I’d even attempt to put it back together!
Great picking as usual. Cool lock.
Most telephone exchanges and remote data centres in the UK use KABA locks and have for years. For good reason too. They are excellent!
I noticed some cool new camera angles in this video. I know I'm a bit mad but it made me start thinking of a split screen 2 camera setup. The addition of a close up to reveal the subtleties in picking and personality of the lock... Much praise for your talent and generosity!
i dont even own locks but i watch these every day
It is so soothing to hear him repeat 1....2 .....3......4......5
Somebody should just make a ASMR of him saying "a little click outta number 3..."
"...with deeper grooves at number 7"... no, wait... wrong channel...
Very impressive, both by the LPL and the lock makers. Seeing the LPL pick pin after pin and then go; 'and here is where the Hollywood option comes in' is a testament to the lock type and just how well the makers have made this lock
With all those pins shooting off in every direction it might be helpful to have one of those Plexiglas boxes with arm holes to keep everything contained.
After watching your first vids recently, one can really tell a difference in speech delivery in old vs new vids. Much smoother now that you've got so much experience. Not that the first vids aren't good. They surely are. 👍 Can't thank you enough for this amazing content! Thanks!
Thanks. 👍
I would like to see you pick locks in a more realistic situation, like in a door. I thank that would be interesting.
This channel is addicting
Certain types of KABA locks/keys (not sure if it’s only for KABA 20) allows to have only 1 key that works for both appartment door and house door. So every tenant only ever needs 1 key and they cannot access each others appartment with the same key. I‘m sure there are other companies that do this too..
He got the vise out, the lock is in trouble.
I'm not sure how much this has been brought up previously, if at all, but I would enjoy seeing a series where you would blindly pick locks going through the process of deciding what you would use and then your normal commentary.
I realize these videos would be longer and for a niche audience, just thought I'd point out something I'd enjoy seeing
I realize that it would be a very long video but I would be interested in seeing this put back together.
I think this may be one of the more complicated locks I have seen yet! And still L.P.L. gets an open and makes it look simple!!!
Two minutes against LPL is good enough for my front door, in plain view of a busy street, in a neighborhood were people are wary of a strange face. Back door needs a little more security though.
I’d be curious to see a video on the mechanical difference between low and high precision machining in locks, and how that (mechanically) affects the attack options.
We use these where I work with master keying etc. brilliant locks and not cheap at all, I'm tempted to send a lock in to see if it could be picked, would be minus a key, but that's never stopped LPL!
That pinning configuration looks like a nightmare, but it took only about what, 3 mins? to pick it open. You always amaze me, my friend.
this is exactly the kind of door lock I and everyone I know has in switerland
A couple clarification for a whole picture - a retailed kaba 20 has up to 22 pins, this picking of a 12 pin cylinder proves no relevance:
1.it is modified. Standard kaba cylinder is modular as an individual unit with its own core and housing, and uses Nickle plated steel pins. This 12 pin cylinder replaces the regular circular housing for a big round shell with an eccentric bore and uses prolonged brass driver pins to accommodate the use in a mortise cylinder...there'd be impact on the effectiveness of spring compression which undermines pick resistance.
2.the minimal pin number of 12 and their array pattern suggest it is tailored for project use such as a central locking cylinder. Central locking enables mutual access by all the keys within particular series of keying or a master key system. For example, a master key managed building has a public room or shared area for all residents to enter, then the central locking cylinder will come into play that allows each key owner to access with their respective keys, no matter what tier their keys are postinged in the master key matrix (individual, sub-master or grand master).
Situation like this didn't imply for an essential level of security. If you do want premium protection on those application, solution will be install a new lock and equip everyone with a new extra piece of key.
I probably have to stop here for better not going deeper into the functional details of central locking.
An LPL video that lasts more than 10 minutes is such a rarity. Yet, the lock is open in closer to 2, after he says "I'm expecting a fight". Credit to LPL's humility, and to Kaba.
"A little bit of spooling at the top...that can make picking very very difficult"...as he rakes it open. OMG
Gotta say i am a pretty new fan, i was curious, would we be able to see your full collection ? be interesting to see how many locks you actually have, how do you store them? racks?
The one on the right was on the left and the one in the middle was on the right and the one on the right was in the middle
Wow. I love high quality, precision stuff and this has it all. The first lock that would have me paranoid about not having the key in my hand.
The exact situation I just found myself in….
Am gonna give an update tho
Hope I’ll find the fuxking key
Edited 56 minutes after posting.
I got my key, left it at work on my toolbox.
I now attached 4 20mm Nuts on the keychain so I can’t miss it.
Legend has it this lock is still gutted.
I just have to say it again. LPL is the best damn TH-camr out there. I've watched hundreds of his videos and he's wasted exactly none of my time. I wish other TH-camrs would follow suit.
Very interesting !!!
I want to see how you do Kaba experT 22pins !
I tried to found it's in your video's but not see it lock ( .
And that picking like every other your works, great ! I like to see your works ! Very right, very interesting .
👍👍👍👍👍
Love your vids, quick and to the point!
I have these everywhere throughout my property in Switzerland. I thought they were a Swiss only thing. Wondered why I was having so much difficulty picking them!
Actually mine are kaba star which have more pins and tight key control by kaba registration. Retail at $250 per cylinder.
This one got picked has only 12 pin holes, it must be at the lowest tier of a master key system... the standard kaba 20 have upto 22 pin holes for a serial/non-master keyed cylinder...
@@odl21 actually mine have even more than yours and cost 350 retail
Kaba now dormakaba is worldwide used
This guy is the *_BOSS !_*
He needs some sort of universally respected title.
*_Go LPL !!_*
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Hi. Have you ever picked a Kaba Peaks IC Core? We replaced our Best cores with Peaks. I never understood why they were better. Thanks
My boss just told me hes never seen anyone pick this and bet i couldnt, thanks for the help 🤪
Even the cricket in the background was impressed. Nice lock.
This is the LockPickingLawyer and today I am standing in front of the White House and as you can see they use a abus lock model: 1234 which has quite a few flaws.....nothing at one, a little click out of two.....and there it is how to open the lock which the White House uses!
Used to work there 35 years ago ... I wonder if they still use the old Hardinge lathes .. with a cigarette paper under the turret if it was cold 😉
Whoa. Seeing the inside, that’s an intimidating lock.
Great way to start my weekend. Thanks LPL.
Rare and honestly a bit charming to see a messy gutting by LPL. Nice!
Very cool👍🏼👍🏼 i challenge you to pick a kaba smartkey lock😉 let the games begin😜
Good show Harry.
This is considered documentary length for this channel.
😎bad ass video my friend another video for the LIBRARY..🌟⭐🌟⭐🌟😎
When you said we're gonna call that pin number 10... 😲
I freaked out knowing there was 12!!!
Ok so I'm getting a lock pick set and going to law school. I'm coming for you Lock Picking Lawyer!
Great job Harry, that's one heck of a lock.
"This was a lot of fun to pick open" right after he says "I can already tell this is going to be a lot of fun to get back together /s".
6:05 This is the first time I've ever heard you comment that you actually put them back together. :-)
Now we need the uncut video of LPL putting this lock back together!
A question for the Lock Picking Lawyer; Do you believe it is possible to design a lock that is impossible to pick? If so how much do you think it would retail for considering the manufacturing cost? Thank you?
I've found that you can usually find a deep socket of the correct size to use as a follower if you don't have one or don't have the correct size follower. 👍 I'm sure you have deep sockets in your tools. Right?
My biggest issue when I SPP is oversetting pins. What can I do to keep that from happening so much?
LPL - the gynaecologist of locks
Great job picking as always brother, thanks for sharing it with us
Love your videos man!
Thank you, now i can't sleep :-)
what model of PanaVise did you use? it looks like a PanaVise 350 but... it's not. what model is it?
More than 10 minutes... Kudos ;-)
You are the best ;-)
Excellent Video. Question is: Will you ever be able to get it back together? That would be an interesting vidio. What about poor Leim? Will he ever see it again?
What size are the plugs of these locks and wouldn't it be easier to make a follower than to try holding all the key pins in while loading the top pins and springs? Great video BTW and I like this technique of using the rake. I will have to try it.
Kaba Switzerland sells this as the low security el cheapo budget lock. For better security they recommend their Star series.
Geez, 2.5 mins is 'quite a fight', eh? Only for you, LPL, only for you.
Heck I wouldn’t want to be the guy that has to reassemble that lock !!!
Gosh. Putting that back together seems like a nightmare.
I know many cores are 1/2". In Corbin-Russwin and some other brands, it is 9/16". The Kaba, I think is 7/16". The Abus 83 Series has a weird size core as well, I think it is 17/32".
Jillian Latorre it’s not sized in inches. Its mm.
These locks are on all our doors in Switzerland but the problem is if you lose your keys it costs you something like $300. Only the factory can make new keys. It's really unnecessary for a country that's extremely safe already. I find that these locks are important for your front door, but when they are on your mailbox which is already inside a locked building,.. I think they're made for making money for the lock makers!