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Tony Todd is the Candy Man, but also more importantly, in terms of Star Trek, he plays Worf's brother in TNG, Kurn.
Is it to much for us to see the USS Chimera, Nogs ship in canon
Then you know- Bashir and Garak are the best secret agents EVER- and we get to see Kira damn near topless!🤪
She makes me feel all warm and squishy inside.
Tony Todd is the Candyman. He is also Worf's Brother Kurn in The Next Generation Episodes. I believe he has been in Star Trek other times as well. In another favorite SCi-FI show of mine, I just rewatched him portray a human Captain in the B5 made for TV movie : A Call To Arms.
Another great movie with Tony Todd is The Rock (1996) Starring Sean Connery, Nicholas Cage, and Ed Harris.
Tony Todd should've gotten an Emmy for this performance.
100% Agree.
Candyman tried to get an Oscar on this one
I dont know why he didn't.
One of the GOAT episodes not only in DS9 but in the entire FRANCHISE.
Edit: I'm referring to The Visitor.
Top Ten no question.
My #1 just ahead of Inner Light
I don't think you need the edit for most people here haha. Although I prefer Hippocratic Oath :P
Excellent performances in "The Visitor", but much like "Inner Light" the story is based on not-really-our-main-characters and most of the episode is kind of filler until the big really sad and lethal ending. They're episodes written backwards from the big tragic twist, I don't really feel like they're exploring anything substantial.
At least Visitor is theoretically about the relationship between two main characters - although I would argue the love between the Siskos has been ongoing and beautiful from the start and is more meaningful over the long term rather than honed to a sharp edge and jammed between your eyes - unlike the Inner Light where it's just Picard witnessing someone else's story.
It's in my top 3, It's the father-son dynamic that always gets me.
Melanie is played by Rachel Robinson who is the daughter of Garak’s actor, Andrew Robinson.
Did not realise that. Thanks
Yup. And old-man-Jake is played by Tony Todd, who also plays Kurn (Worf’s brother).
Yeah, you can kinda tell around the eyes:)
Idc
@@TheHopperUK
I thought you were refering to Tony Todd. I realize you meant Rachael. Yes, I saw a family resemblance too.
The Visitor is my favorite DS9 episode, it wrecks me every time I watch it. Tony Todd's performance is brilliant.
What Ioved about Visitor is that it isn’t a simulation or a parallel universe or an illusion; Jake lived a full life and the universe moved on. And at the end of the episode, Sisko remembers it.
I would expect Sisko would be terrified for the rest of his life about dying in a way that left Jake without closure, having seen the lengths he would go to at the expense of his own future and happiness. Like, if it's my time, let it be a simple heart attack or blown to smithereens by the Jem'hadar, not a weird subspace anomaly or other mysterious vanishing.
@kirishima638 Having watched the entire series when it was broadcast, I can only say hmm.
I won't say anything more in case you are a first-timer like Ollie.
@@jerodast -- Except the chances that an event would happen that requires Jake to do something like that are likely pretty rare.
@@pauld6967 oh I watched it on first broadcast but appreciate the need to avoid spoilers
It isn't the only deep and emotional episode in DS9, these moments and the character developments is why this show has forever fans, and personally why I am grateful that you share your experience with us on these reactions. It is an honour and thank you.
I can't hold it together past the scene between Cirroc Lofton and Nana Visitor discussing Jake staying on the station. Not only is the scene perfectly set-up, but you can feel every word of dialogue between them. Absolutely beautiful
I hadn't watched The Visitor in years, at least not since I became a father. I cried even knowing what was coming.
The Visitor was and still is one of the all-time best DS9 episodes. It never fails to make me cry. Everyone does such a great job. Also, I know you mentioned Kira’s new hairstyle but she’s got a new uniform for the first time. Part of the revamp for Season 4 was them trying to make her more relaxed, friendly and feminine.
Hippocratic Oath was directed by Odo himself, Rene Auberjonois.
He did such a good job!
The visitor received an Emmy nomination, but I'm not sure if it want it. Because of Tony Todd's great performance as older jake Sisko
My friend, I can't even watch this episode because it makes me bawl. It always makes me think of my own father (RIP).
The relationship between Benjamin and Jake is the best family in all of Star Trek. Great performances all around especially Cirroc Lofton and Tony Todd. I never skip this episode.
Tony Todd is the candyman. He is also in The Rock and is Worfs brother Kurn.
The handyman 😂😂
@@jerodast fuckin auto correct.
Just finished seeing him in The Crow, too.
At the end of Hippocratic Oath, we see Sisko tuning up the same clock he built way back in season one!
Tony Todd has played a couple of Star Trek characters - he's probably ringing your "Kurn, Worf's Brother" bells at the moment.
He's also great in The Man From Earth, which is a must see for anyone who likes episodes like The Visitor and The Inner Light
I keep hearing the Vortigaunts from Half-Life 2: Episode 2 😂 RIP Tony Todd, what a legend
@@amy_grace Tony Todd is still alive! You freaked me out for a second!
The Visitor is such an amazing episode because of the character development established over the previous seasons and the amazing acting by Lofton and Brooks. So good.
The Vistor.. such a great ep on many levels. I would have zero issue if after eps like that you took a day between reactions to let such powerful episodes sit with you a bit. This one gets me every time.. it put the Jake's character onto a whole new level for me
The Sisko's, all of them, (Ben, Jake, Joe, and.... spoilers...) are what kept that family of DS9 together. And as a kid who's dad died young, 'The Visitor's is really hard to watch, but damn it's magnificent.
Ollie, there's no correct way to cry or feel emotion - you're not required to produce tears. Knowing people are going to be watching can change the way you feel things too, so just feel what you feel and don't worry about us. 🙂
So many GREAT episodes of ds9, but this will forever be at the top! Not many trek episodes hit the heart this hard. Props to tony todd, would not of worked without his masterclass 👏
True, I think The Visitor is the only DS9 episode that made me cry at the end, and I am not an emotional person, so it takes some doing.
There are many good and emotional episodes in Star Trek, but there are 3 episodes that make me cry every time. TNG's The Inner Light and All Good Things and DS9's The Visitor. And all rank in my top 10 most rewatched episodes 😊
The Quickening is on that list for myself.
And also the 1960s episode with Sisko and his crew back in the 1960s. I forgot the name.
Edit: Far Beyond The Stars. Had to Google right quick.
City on the Edge of Forever and The Offspring always get me. Also Tasha's funeral. And Bennie's breakdown. And Family. And Home. Probably more I'll remember later.
Data's daughter is the most tears.
Fun Fact: the lady that visits Jake is Andrew “Garak” Robinson‘s daughter in real life.
The Visitor is unique in that a lot of fiction explores grief, but this episode explores what it means to live with unsettled grief. When a loved one dies, it’s hard enough to deal with the heavy burden of that grief but eventually it gets lighter. When one loses a loved one in mysterious circumstances it can take years for that burden to lighten, if it ever does, and hope can feel like an enemy.
I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but the changes to the theme music was to give it a more Klingon feel. Since they brought on Worf, and the Klingons take on a much bigger role for the rest of the series, they jazzed up the theme a bit. Heavier, a little darker... echoes of how the series will go..
It’s funny how people who don’t know Trek think that Trekkies just love the science and tech and phaser beams and whatnot, when in reality, the best of Trek are these shatteringly beautiful stories that explore what it means to be human.
The Visitor is my favorite episode of Deep Space Nine, and my favorite episode of ALL Star Trek.
Same. Good taste 🖖🏼🥰
i love the visitor because it's an au that isn't really an au. we get the relief of them being reunited without it undercutting the depth of the grief. so sensitive and so beautifully acted as well. ds9 as a whole so deftly switches from big, explosive, political maneuvering to complex character studies, which is what makes it so compelling.
Worf was the tactical officer of the Enterprise throughout TNG, however, he inherited Tasha Yar's role of chief of security after she died. Worf lost his dual role when he came to DS9, but instead of just being the tactical officer of a single starship, he's in charge of Starfleet's tactical operations within the entire Bajoran sector.
The actor that played old Jake's visiting wannabe writer is the daughter of Andrew Robinson who plays Garak.
24:50 There are a great many background characters that are in nearly every episode. Morn is the most popular/obvious but you'll soon realise Quark's bar does have regular employees, that Ops is manned by an "Alpha Shift" - O'Brien's engineering teams often have familiar faces in them. By virtue of staying in one place each episode, rather than flying to a new planet each week, it allows for secondary and tertiary characters to come to the surface - Nog and Rom are examples of this.
just gonna do garak dirty like that huh
The story of "The Visitor" is based on a true story of a girl claiming to be a high school student who turned up at the home of reclusive writer JD Saliger (who never gave interviews) and he let her in and talked to her... Except in that case she actually turned out to be an undercover journalist just trying to get a scoop
Ive never been able to re-watch "The Visitor". I saw it when it first aired but never after. when i saw u reacting to it, I decided it was time to see it again. Yeah...i cried,
And so begins four seasons of Worf referring to Quark only as "the Ferengi bartender."
I wonder if Worf kept in touch with adult Jake and noticed how much he sounds like his brother .
The Visitor pulls at all my heartstrings as a dad.
Admiral Nogg in Star Trek Online is wonderful.
A beautiful man died too soon...
Tony Todd is also one of the Rogue Marines in The Rock
this is one of favorite episode of DS9
Tony Todd is not only the Candyman, but he is Worf's younger brother Kurn.
"IT'S A CLOCK!"
25:00 Kira's hair does change this season - as time goes on, she ends up with a softer look - as the show starts literally the day after the Cardassians withdraw from Bajor and she was a resistance fighter - the next day she's in the "Army" as a Major and posted on a Starbase to represent Bajor to the Federation, whom she distrusts. Over the seven years, she becomes more relaxed and less hostile. Her hair kind of represents that a little -it's not so tightly slicked back - it's softer at the edges, whilst still being all business.
And Nana Visitor still changes her hair often!
One of the great things about the Dominion is there are multiple distinct species/cultures within it. They're like their own Federation, just a very hierarchical one with many members in fear for their lives manipulated through genetics to be obedient or dependent. Here we learn a bit more about the Jem'Hadar. I think an episode like this is essential.
Rachel Robinson/Melanie in the visitor is Garak daughter😮 (Andrew Robinson)
I cry a lot during films and TV shows, but this was the first one. I was a new father when this first aired and it hit me exceptionally hard.
Why is it that whenever two ships crash on the same planet, even though it's as large as, ya know... A planet... They always crash land really close to each other (happens in multiple other episodes too)
Jake and Benjamin.
Their subspace link severed.
Is this meant to be Tamarian?
@@fakecubed Sokath! His eyes uncovered!
Tony Todd is Kurn, the brother of Worf!
In Voyager, didn't he also play the leader of that sect of Klingons they encountered in the Delta quadrant?
The best is yet to come and wont it be fine?
Oh that's going to be stuck in my head all day now! thanks! 😂
One reason for keeping Quark is the old saying "Better the devil you know...."
I prefer the arrangement of the main title music in the earlier seasons. It felt more like "the lone soldier on the last frontier" with the elegiac feel with the solo trumpet over the still background. It was so noble. By adding more activity to it, I felt like they destroyed that a bit.
They needed to do a new main title song because Babylon 5 was doing a new one every season.
At least the images of the TOS characters are still there in the comet's dust trail at the very beginning. Very early CGI and very subtle. Uhura at her console is especially visible, but you have to look closely and pause at the right times.
Everytime O'Brien and Bashir crash when they go somewhere together is because O'BRIEN MUST SUFFER!"
34:50 This episode and others do explore The Dominion - they aren't just a faceless bad guy like The Borg. They have people within them - as time goes on you will see who the recurring Dominion characters are - and it's good writing. You learn about the Jem'Hadar here a bit - and then you start to wonder about the Vorta as well...
The Visitor destroys me every time.
Dude. I cry. Every. Single. Time.
Tony Todd really shocked us with this performance. Candyman and the Mortician from final destination can also bring you to tears
I watched The Visitor when it first aired ... I was in middle school, and I was still new to watching DS9, but even then, I knew I had just seen one of the greatest Trek episodes of all time.
I still feel that way.
15:00 I didn't realize you missed that it was Frank's bar. ;)
Great reaction to my no.1 episode of all Star Trek The Visitor. Tony Todd should had an diamond Emmy for his masterful performance. And that‘s from someone who loves the action stuff. But V allways punch me hard.
Tony Todd= candy man, Captain Kurn ( Worf's Brother)
I still fail to finish the visitor without crying. Originally I watched it as a child who would miss his father due to him being active military. Now I watch it as a father who wants his children to thrive with or without me.
You are like Sarek! It was one tear, just one! :)
I second the morns bar shirt.
The Visitor always gets the tears rolling for me no matter how many times I see it. It also shows the importance of family not only in the story, but also in the choice of guest actors, with the great Tony Todd, who is very much a part of the Star Trek family, and Rachel Robinson the daughter of Andrew "Garek" Robinson as Melanie, who is also a part of DS9 family by extension. It's such a well written episode, and Tony Todd deserves all the praise for his acting!!
The Visitor is the Prophets grooming their Emissary.
No way that wasn't them pulling strings.
Tony Todd plays Worf’s brother
waiting for S4 / 8 , and 5 /6 lots of good ones in between but those two are fun.
I had forgotten the order.
"Frank Morn's Bar" should be your personal channel merch
I would take just "Frank's Bar" with a picture of Morn behind the bar haha
Wait, did Tony Todd also play Morn?
Who played Morn?
A Jake Sisko episode! Cirroc Lofton does a great job, and the actor who plays "old Jake" (Tony Todd) has the same facial structure as Lofton, so it is a really convincing casting choice. Apart from the solid acting, the writers should be recognized for such an impactful script. (Seeing Jadzia during her old age is interesting as well.)
I actually thought I had seen a fair number of people opine that Tony Todd does NOT look particularly like Cirroc Lofton, but it's acceptable because he's so good. Like, Cirroc is lanky and has a pretty round face, while Tony Todd has a more heavy frame and squarer features.
I think I may hate The Visitor more than Sanctuary, but great reaction. Hippocratic Oath - Woohoo!
The Visitor is amazing across the board
So, at the funeral do you think that Morn was mourning? 🤣
30:30 "He's been alone for so long" - bare in mind he's probably about three years old.
The Visitor proves that DS9 can hit you extra hard.
So many of Avery's performances are wrenching.😢 "It's real, it's REAL!"
Did not appreciate the lords name being taken in vain, otherwise good review of The Visitor, I always thought this was a top-tier episode that needs more recognition.
The Visitor is the only episode of Star Trek that ever had me literally crying. It hits hard. Deep Space Nine is the superior Star Trek. I love all of TNG era Star Trek, but DS9 is best.
Nothing like a good cry before work😢
Oh no... *grabs a box bunch of tissues before hitting play*
Someone make a supercut of every time Oliver tears up 😀😀😀
Aaaaand... that was the best episode of Deep Space Nine. I've been waiting for your reaction to this since you started DS9, months ago. Eight of the nine Top 10 episodes of DS9 are actually yet to come, so you have a LOT of great viewing to come, but The Visitor is my number one.
In my DS9 Top 10, a whopping 5 episodes come from season 6. One comes from season 1 that you have watched: "Duet." There are none from seasons 2 and 3 though both seasons have episodes that come close. There is one more season 4 episode in the Top 10. I won't spoil things any more. I love your reactions and I'm looking forward to more.
While DS9 is my favorite of the Trek shows, The Visitor never hit me emotionally and I could never figure out why. The old age make-up is unconvincing but that's true of whole TNG/DS9/VOY era. And I love me some Tony Todd. I just felt like it was too openly trying to be this show's version of "The Inner Light" and couldn't give in. My loss, really.
Ollie have you seen candy man because Tony Todd is great in that one too
I usually skip The Visiter.... it's too wrenching without enough fun along with it, like all others. It's tough. Its just all sad. There are certainly other episodes I cry more for, but this one is tough. Amazing episode.
Sisko remembers.
RUNABOUT CASUALTIES:
The original three runabouts assigned to Deep Space 9 were:
Rio Grande, Yangtzee Kiang, and Ganges.
Yangtzee Kiang crash-landed and was damaged beyond repair in "Battle Lines."
Replaced by the Orinoco ("The Siege").
Ganges was destroyed in "Armageddon Game." Replaced by the Mekong. ("Whispers")
Mekong was destroyed in "The Die is Cast" trying to escape the Jem'Hadar armada. Replaced by the Rubicon. ("Family Business")
Orinoco was destroyed in "Our Man Bashir". Replaced by the Yukon.
(Not a spoiler. Ollie has already seen it)
Spoiler for everyone else who hasn't seen it. (Yes there are multiple people who watch a series for the first time in sync with reaction series like this.)
@@jerodast has appointed himself to be my own personal stalking troll. 😁
How flattering.
He even likes his own comments for "credibility".
In the alternate future of Star Trek Online, the Federation eventually made peace with the Dominion, and all Jem'Hadar were freed of Ketracel White. One of the characters that I play as is a Jem'Hadar Starfleet Captain, and I named his ship the U.S.S. Goran'Agar.
I can't stand The Visitor no matter how well it is written and acted, it's just too painful for me. I don't recommend it to people who lost family members early on in their lives as I did.
Thumbs up
Way Of The Warrior is a two parter so technically these are episodes 3 and 4
Well now that Captain Sisco is back are you sure Morn will own the bar
The Visitor is one of my favorite episodes that I can never watch. After losing my own father unexpectedly, it hurts too much to watch this episode. I just came to comment and like but I’ll have to skip the first part.
Modern Trek lacks character development and emotions. These actors and writing could pull from your soul. Voyager is the last of true Trek. I love Captain Janeway. She's alone, no Starfleet.
I'm not a fan of how they wrote O'Brien in "Hippocratic Oath." He already confronted his past experience and racism in TNG "The Wounded" and it feels like the writers ignored that a bit in order to create conflict with Bashir.
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CONTINUITY & PRODUCTION PROBLEMS
THE VISITOR (IMDb Rating: 9.2 = 3rd highest for DS-9)
5:05 Sisko stole that line directly from "Ferris Bueller's Day Off".
13:20 When Jake's wife presents Jake's books to Sisko, they switch to opposite hands between cuts. Apparently, Sisko had lots of time in subspace to learn book juggling.
14:48 In a nice bit of continuity, the future uniforms and combadges seen in this episode are consistent with the future versions seen in "All Good Things".
HIPPOCRATIC OATH (IMDb Rating: 7.8)
30:10 Bashir picks an odd time to turn his back on a ruthless Jem'Hadar soldier.
5:05 How is that a problem? Maybe he likes old movies.
Very unpopular opinion: I don't like The Visitor. I find the story boring. I think I'm a minority of one on this though, and am happy that others enjoy the episode.
😲
I liked it when I saw it, but I never felt like rewatching it. Perhaps watching it with Ollie will make me see some new things
Right there with ya, and I feel the same for Inner Light on TNG as well.
@@baronvg I know... Star Trek 5 is my favourite TOS film and Insurrection is my favourite TNG film so my brain may not be running on all warp-cores.
Nothing wrong with being different from the crowd. This episode is on my Top GOAT Star Trek list of the entire franchise but I also ABSOLUTELY LOVE Spock's Brain while most folks hate it. I don't care because I have ALWAYS loved Spock's Brain from Day One and always will even if I'm in the minority on that. I don't care. I like what I like. Oh yeah and I also like Move Along Home DS9 Season One and everybody hates that episode but I will always love it.
I was rolling my eyes when Hippocratic Oath aired. It was predicable DS9 would "humanize" Jem Hadar.
What's the problem? They're not humans and treating them like they are is racism in the guise of the exact opposite.
Trek has an enormous tendency to do this and the time I can recall anyone even addressing it was in Star Trek 6.
What is wrong is that YOU ARE GIVING AWAY *SPOILERS!*. 😤
@@TheNoiseySpectator The ST6 reference? I didn't think it was a spoiler. Well, to be clear, it's not a plot element at all, it's a minor rant that occurred in the first act.
Also, this episode occurs chronologically long after the events of ST6, and was released after that movie. To some degree you have to assume people have seen material like that, especially since there's a treaty that's already been mentioned in this show that came from that movie.
As Kirk said: everybody's human.
@@dupersuper1938 Heh, SPOILER
The rare episode where we see Morn mourning.
sell them on your merch.
I'm surprised you didn't take the opportunity to say ''Morn is mourning.''
That makes me want a "Good Morn-ing" shirt.