Birdman - Renegade Cut
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I always interpreted the ending as his reconnection with his daughter being the thing that finally makes him actually fly, literally or figuratively, I don't think it actually matters.
Loved this movie, I always thought Riggan died in theatre and everything in the hospital is just what happens in Riggan's after life mind, where everything is perfect and makes sense in his own mind. So perfect that even when his daughter sees him fly, she is not shocked but is proud by her father. And one thing that is very crucial of why I think everything in the hospital is not real, is because after Riggan shot himself in the theatre, there was a clear cut, the long continuous shot ACTUALLY made an obvious cut. Why there of all places? Why even a cut? I saw it as the director trying to tell the audience that there is a disconnect there. It would also give a great reason why the director chose to shoot the film with one continuous shot, so that he can break that rule and tell the audience something.
Good analysis
Not sure if I agree - but you've given nice thought to this - thank you
I guess I will have to watch Birdman for 5th time now
This movie is really good but I think I prefer Guillermo del Toro's angle pertaining popular culture. When Alfonso Cuarón told Del Toro that he was making a Harry Potter, Cuarón acted as if that project was way beneath him, that he hadn't even read the books. Then, Del Toro told him that he was being an "arrogant bastard" and told him to go to the library and read the damn books and call him back when he was on it.
If you listen closely at the end of the movie, possibly even after the credits start (it's been awhile) you can hear ambulance sirens. Not that it makes anything totally definitive, but like the origami in Blade Runner I feel like it's supposed to point to the true ending.
Love the overview. I really loved this movie. Like we drove 45 miles to go see it in theaters love! I personally enjoy that the ending is left open cause otherwise it spoils the fun for me.
It's like people can't handle open endings anymore, if they ever have. The point is to make your own interpretation(s) and compare it with others' interpretations. When it's properly done, it makes a movie stick with you more because you took a more active analytical role and creates a desire to talk about it with others.
Great movie, great analysis.
I love this movie, and I agree with the director's sentiments to a point (the Bayformers franchise is a perfect example of what Inarritu think all superheroes are), but he is indeed being too snobbish here. The poetic justice is that Michael Keaton went on to play a rather prominent role (to much acclaim) in one of these superhero films, as a bird-themed character no less!
It's funny that you uploaded this video because I rewatched Birdman only yesterday. It's one my favourite movies of all time. Alejandro is a genius.
Yeah, about the ending: there was only one statement in my head when I had seen this film: He made it. He had closed all of his gestalts and now he's free to ascend. Ending of the film made an emotional impact on me of such quality, so I didn't even want an explanation.
I love your reviews. They are informative and enrich my own knowledge of the language and history of film. They're entertaining to watch even when we disagree, as we do in this case. I happen to find this film an exceptionally well acted, crafted, shot film but also a dumpster fire of pretension and contempt. So, in order words, thanks for doing great work Leon!
Great analysis, I'd like to explore the classical music needle-drops in this movie, from Mahler 9 (his symphony often associated with death, while many critics of Mahler's work consider him overdramatic) to Ravel's Pavane Pour une Infante Defunte, and how their both heavily feature Horn, a very beautiful but difficult instrument often featured in Hollywood soundtracks
I think it is important to be critical of the superhero movie boom as well as appreciating what the individual movies do well
No. Destroy them.
@@Artcaneon Hey, I wouldn't mind, but I'm trying to reach a compromise here
I was amazed how the band aid's on his face resembles to his mask. I think he attain what he wanted after that incident.
You, sir, are awesome. I feel my knowledge of cinema expanding every time I watch one of your videos and I am truly grateful.
Just stumbled upon your content and I find it very insightful and well made. Subscribed for more. Keep it up dude! You're doing cool stuff here!
I know that there's a TON to unpack in this film, but I sort of wish you'd have acknowledged Norton's character reading "Labyrinths," by Jorge Borges. Borges wrote magical realism (much like this film touches on the genre with Riggan's fantasy sequences) and focused heavily on dreams, illusion, storytelling, and ego. Naturally, this video's still fantastic--there's a lot that I hadn't even considered in regards to technique in this film, and I'm even more impressed with Inarritu than before.
...I just love Borges and really want people to read him more. -_- #litnerdproblems
First video i've seen talking about birdman without mentioning the batman parallel. that's refreshing to me for some reason.
well said.
Thank you for your fine review of what I believe is an excellent film. Many of the layers you mention at the end I've considered and appreciate.
But what your review brings to the table is first focusing on the meaning of the long take in Birdman. That was very good.
Also, while I knew about the mythical references in the movie, I was not familiar with Carver's story and ideas. That was helpful in better understanding the play and the love theme.
I'll finish on that I also have a theory about the ending of the film, but don't we all. ;-)
I was disappointed that nobody talked about what kind of job the production designer, Kevin Thompson pulled off for this production. I totally agree with Alejandro having the confidence in the casts to perform well organized long-take. But it also could be done without that particular setting though.
I've been waiting for this one for a while! So glad to finally see your take. I really wish the fire "thing" in the sky and the dead jelly fish on the beach that book-end the movie would have gotten a mention though! I agree with the meaning of the end shot, but people never talk about that damn, meteorite, firebird / dead jelly fish thing! It's the very first shot in the movie. I have my theories, but I would have been really interested to know what you think they symbolize.
Ah. How I interpreted that was similar; it was a pivotal point in Reagan's life, it started him on this journey of rediscovery of himself and it echos in the end. He tells his ex-wife about hitting rock bottom and walking out into the ocean to kill himself. But he is unsuccessful in his attempt, and in doing so, is reborn as has a new lease on life (baptism, water reference aside, you could also interpret the flaming object in the sky to be a phoenix - another symbol of rebirth). We don't know what they mean as they start the film, but it gets interpreted to us by the end. :)
Thank you Birdman needs a proper analysis.
Beautiful analysis. Thank-you. As I was watching it, it came to me that the long takes in the film were juxtaposed with complex transitions and ellipses that blurred time and space. The protagonist, who has trouble sleeping, may be losing touch somewhat. That's the diagetical conceit. But as you said in your video, the fantasy parts of the narrative are more complex than that.
Biiiiiiirdmaaaaan
aaaand Avenger [screech]
5:20. Huh that shot kinda looks like comic book panels.
I look at the film from an artists point of view. We try and try to emulate others to belong in the category of success, but when we finally "make it" it was us being ourselves. The middle of the film he flys briefly, for that brief beautiful moment he knows you he really is. Then later when he succeeds in a unthinkable way that was him finally being himself and so he flys at the end. This is why we see a shining light or meteor in the beginning of the film. The light in the sky is his inner self at the end in which his daughter is ecstatic to see her father find his place in the world.
I hope i'm clear and concise. But this film changed me. It gave me the determination to continue pushing to become a filmmaker
I love movies like this one, that have an infinity of different possible, and equally valid, interpretations. Also I loved the choice of casting Keaton, not only because he's an amzing actor but also because him having starred in the Batman movies adds an ulterior layer to the story.
Bravo!
thanks for making me understand but every time i watch ur cut i hav to watch the movie again \m/
i'm a little bummed out about great directors looking down upon superhero movies. But i get it, it seems to be the "trend", and BEING JOHN MALCOVICH kinda touched on this, right?
The problem with superhero movies is that increasing resources such as directorial vision or elaborate subtext diminishes what has become the soul goal of these films, to make a profit. Admittedly their are some recent films such as Thor Ragnarok or even Deadpool where the vision of the artist is able to bleed into the product but the goal for these films was to be cash cows
They're mostly just popcorn movies, mate. They don't have much to offer outside of their main premise.
Superhero movies are the cinematic equivalent of masturbating to porn. Its not very good, or satisfying, but its okay
I need to see this movie still. I am interested on hearing thoughts on the casting. I mean you got both Batman and The Hulk in a movie with superheroes being a plot point and not plot device, I feel like there's additional commentary there...
Ionly ever heard the title of the movie or seen the DVD-Cover so untill your description I actually thought Birdman was part of the MCU.
I can enjoy superhero movies and I have a decent sized collection of superhero comics but I personally have no problem with Iñarritu's claim that superhero movies are cultural genocide. In fact I can get behind it quite a bit, in the same way that I can't get behind Miyazaki's "anime was a mistake", Moebius regretting that he helped pave the way for manganime coming to the west or Satoshi Kon's visible criticism to an infantilised and perverse Japanese society, while still being somewhat of a japaholic.
My enjoyment of superheroes has to do both with its basest appeal, with their iconicity and what they represent (mostly for other people, but also for my own nostalgia) and with the authors (be it writers and artists or actors and directors) behind them, but I think there's plenty wrong with them, and that the current oversaturation of superhero movies and media needs to be called for what it really is: corporate synergy.
Come on! We've even had a Lego Batman movie (direct to video release, sure, but still). Let that sink in for a moment: the construction toy - the comic book - the product placement - the videogame - the MOVIE. That's it, Lego itself is now less of a physical plastic construction game that boosts imagination, hand-eye coordination and spatial intelligence and more an alternate zany yet inoffensive universe for other cross-media franchise efforts.
I've watched every MCU film released so far and have only enjoyed Captain America 1, Ironman 1 and Guardians of the Galaxy (by far my favourite). Every other film, while having its own share of positive elements has felt to me like either an interchangeable plot (how many of them are a misrepresentation of the drone problem?) or an insipid (or even boring, like both Thor movies) checklist filling product.
It's almost offensive how producers, publishers or even the media treat superheroes (and this is coming from, again, a person that likes superheroes) are this instantaneous grabbag success product for the every-nerd, (through shared comic book and cinematic universes) seem to want a complete dedication from the reader (that has to collect every single trade or watch every single movie all across the shared universe to follow the plots), creating a consumer, collector and speculator culture... that they repay with reboots that tell the consumer "you know that collection you bought? Yeah, all worthless now. That didn't happen and most of the stories aren't even good and are editorial mandates that we told you were canon then. And the good stories? They're alternate universe now." Even the character's morals are more malleable than fans would care to admit: Batman is killing again in Batman V Superman because the man now wants superheroes that kill for propaganda reasons. Same with objectivist superheroes and cryptofascist ones.
+Renegade Cut That cosplayer lied to me!!!! Grrr!
I'm curious how you felt about the long takes in Steve McQueen's Hunger. I personally felt that's where a long take failed. In that case I might as well be watching a play, but in a play the scenes would likely be more engaging.
Did no one catch the Batman reference in Birdman? "IT WAS 1992!" "We can get back in that suit", a commentary on fans wanting to see Keaton back in thw role?
nope, I didn't - nice catch!
This also became full circle when later Keaton played The Vulture in spiderman.
Yeah I did indeed. I thought our guy might have mentioned it's relation to mirroring Keating's real life experience too. I guess he hinted at it in saying , "there's many thymes going on",
Leon, is this a re-upload with some edits?
OK, that makes sense. I'm glad to see it back online.
Hey, are you going to do anything for when you reach 10,000 Subscribers?
Also congratulations on getting to the halfway mark on your patreon, I am more than certain you will make your goal.
Didn't you already posted this on youtube or just your channel?
+Renegade Cut Hey man no complaints here. I marathon all your reviews when I do my painting/drawings on my days off. I have no quams with watching them again. Keep up the excellent work!
I find his comments on Superhero movies completely fair , Charlie Kaufman also feels the same way
@steelhound duncan they still suck and are empty vessels to sell you shit.
Do Once Upon a Time in America please!!!
Once Upon a Time in the West, thankyouverymuch
Requests go through Patreon only, i know.
***** um. okay, sorry i guess
excellent form*
Iñárritu is a middle class Mexican. There's nothing ignorant about his criticism to superhero films. But I really wanna see an analysis on Guillermo del Toro's Hell Boy
Well, not too "middle class" considering he studied in the really expensive school Ibero and quit it out of want rather than not being able to afford it lmao, his brother also went out and made a nice career in soccer too. Or maybe middle class just sounds way high considering half the country lives in poverty. who knows.
I get that it wasn't the INTENTION for the film to come off as coming from a bitter or snobbish place, but regardless of creator intent, I think it still DOES, based on what's on the screen. I wasn't aware of anything anyone said in interviews--I rarely am--so it was news to me that the director had said those things about superhero films. Nonetheless, I wasn't remotely surprised to hear it--if you'd asked me what I thought the creators thought, that's probably one of the things I might have said.
Honestly, based on the framing of the film, when I watched it I just got the sense that the person behind it didn't like ANYONE--the movie seems to hate blockbusters, hate hollywood, hate broadway, hate actors, hate directors, hate critics...the whole thing was just laced with this undercurrent of bile and disdain for everyone involved, for every aspect of the film and theater world. I came out of watching it thinking, "Wow, what a deeply hateful movie." And again, that's purely based on my impressions from what was on the screen, not what anyone said behind the scenes or in interviews. Yes, it's a technically impressive film in a lot of ways, but if the intention truly was was NOT to make a film that came from a place of bitterness, then I don't think they succeeded at making the film they wanted to make.
Superhero movies suck ass.
Bird man is soooooo slow and dry it took me 5 attempts to finish it. I kept starting it and loosing interest. Now that some things have changed in my own life that are strangely similar to the main character I should maybe rewatch it.
Sam was literally shaking about her dad trying to kill himself that she relapsed on drugs which is why she walked out to get a quick bump or toke or what have you. Riggin friggin Birdman never existed the whole time but a figment of Sam's imagination. Hence she walks to the window and is so friggin riggin'd on whatever drug she slanked that she thought she was seeing the riggin flying through the friggin air.
boom
This friggen hurt to read
Very difficult to comprehend your interpretations of the film (
Leon, I don't know if you've had a chance to view it, but if you've seen "The Revenant", do you feel that's as good as "Birdman"? Frankly, I feel "The Revenant" is a much superior Film, but Art is subjective.
Got really bored with this one, could not connect with any character.
... Did not feel the doom.
Liked the use of sounds though.
I'm on the "Sam = as delusional as her father" side. In my opinion, she "sees" him flying away into the sky when he's actually dead on the ground.
Would make sense, as psychic disorders can run through family and certain genetics are passed from male - female - male.
Yeah... even if the movie itself wasn't representative of the guy's "cultural genocide" bollocks, I still find it hard to look past that hyperbole on his part. Yes it's a great movie that means more than that, and superhero movies are barely a subtheme, yes plenty of other people were creatively involved in the movie, but that level of disconnect from reality still puts me off that creator's work as a whole. Sometimes it's difficult to disconnect a creator personally from their work creatively, even if the latter is superior to the former.
I wish I can get behind the praise for this film. but upon repeat viewings this film feels as shallow and as uninspired art trash as innaritu has always made. The Revenant fared worse. I can't deny the directing, acting and cinematography on display. but when you have scripts as bad as birdman and revenant, excellent for and performances can only hide so much. Boyhood (one of my all time favorite films) was robbed that year for best picture