The rubber band hack is exactly what i was looking for!! thank you SO much, this saved me returning the G1 mic, i love how compact it is but noticed the rattling noise in my last couple videos
Thank you for the review. The rubberband solution is a great idea. I. have owned the ECM-BM1 in the past. I loved the sound, but the clicking made it unusable if the camera was moving (vlogging handheld or mounted in a vehicle). Ultimately, I would like to own both and use them for different scenarios (B10 for hiking and run and gun filming and B1M for more stationary outdoor filming where I would like more control over the settings). Jason
Excellent comparison Arthur 💯 For me the form factor of the G1 on an APS-C body simply is amazing. Totally usable in most scenarios. Cheers from Germany.
Thank you man for the video your a life saver. I got the g1 in the mail today for my a6000 it for sure sounds much better indoors. Outdoors it’s not the best with a lot of noise going on but it’s for sure an upgrade. The other one is obviously better but for the price difference I’ll wait to upgrade in the future
Hey Arthur. Great comparison video. I was able to use both amd liked the sound of the b10. That being said the g1 is an amazing mic. It is really nice because you just put it on the camera and you are done. Also the g1 works on the ZV-1!
The B10 is the way to go. I probably would have bought the B1M, but I don't think they make it any more, but from what I hear, the B10 is just as good.
I first listened to this video in a very noise fan filled room, so I had low expectations of making out sound quality between them, and was interested in your opinion. However, what struck me the most was the contrast of the BC10 for your very end comparison you did in your office. I have a B10 coming soon, can't wait to see it, especially with NC turned on.
to my ear, the G1 is probably for these apscs that have previous gen builtin mic, such as A6000-A6600, to make them on par to the new gen mic- zve10. So it's not for the zve10. And the B10 and B1M is for some further upgrades.
Hi. I have a saramonic blink 100 paired with my sony a6100 and I can see that when I connected the mic (even just the cable) the mic level on camera marks on green at least one level even with no sound at all in the room. And when you play a recorded video you can hear I annoying noise sound, like a high pitched noise sound. How that can be fixed?
Man that ZVE10 footage look CLEAN AF what lens did you use?? also the built in mic is very impressive! It’s sounds just as good as the G1 but not better than the B10 but still very impressive
@@hinfinity Ha! Yes he did thank you for pointing that out! I jumped the gun. I just sent my 11m F1.8 back. I couldn't handle the distortion for how it made me look in vlogs.
Honestly I was worried at first because I just purchased the large mic myself, but after hearing your audio samples I genuinely have to say I prefer the built in mic over the little one. There was just something hollow sounding about it. Not sure if anyone else agrees but that's where I'm at, ECM-B10 all the way!
Does anyone know if there is a microphone in the g1 form factor so you can mount it on a cold shoe? My setup has a top handle mounted in the middle of the cage and it would interfere with picking up sound. Or maybe there is an extension cable to take the mic out to the side.
Were you using catalyst browse for the clips of her walking or was that one of the stabilizations and was it a different lens or the kit lens cause it looked really good
Hi friend, what do you prefer? Activating LC or NC or not? Is it better to choose off and process everything we want in the processing program? Another question, please, regarding the decibel, what do you recommend choosing? Thanks
I would have liked to hear the bi-directional comparision between the two with the B10 both in a directional mode and omni mode, but still, thank you for doing it. I have been considering a Deity D4 Duo for this use (I like to talk to people while vlogging) but maybe the volume balance on the G1 is good enough to get by.
Great Video, I have a a7riii which won't take advantage of the Digital Audio, so will the B10 be a better choice? Also I will be using it in a in classroom (kindergarden) performances. Will the G1 be fine?
to be honest the best vocals came from the one without a mic. Cheers to the camera. i find the little one spiking up too much and the big one gives the excessive car noises put down. I would use a mic if im at a crowded place like NYC but not perse on vacation at a place if you want to pick up everything from a bigger distance.
Seems like the G1 is really only for Vlogging. If you were using the mic for family videos and not just vloging where you are right in front of the camera I would go with the B10.
According to Sony Hong Kong technical support department when the a7c2 connects to the ecm-g1 microphone, it can only use analog input. If you use a7c2 with other higher-end microphones, you can use digital input or analog input. So when g1 connect to a7c2, there is no fully automatic audio leveling function. However, on other Sony camera models such as the a74, the camera can continue to use digital input and use the fully automatic volume leveling function. Regarding this issue, I sent three emails to Sony's technical support department in Hong Kong, China and Japan. Reflecting my dissatisfaction, why do the same microphone have different reactions in different camera models. I use the a7c2, a relatively entry-level camera, because I hope that using an entry-level microphone, I can adjust the volume completely automatically, without having to spend time manually adjusting the volume.
The B10 sounds best in most of the tests EXCEPT the back mic test. The G1 is much better than the B10 for the back mic test with Lucas. Because of this, G1 is the best for my needs because I use my camera to also record my son while I am talking to him behind the camera.
Hi Arthur, thank you for the review, excellent comparision, I think same to you! justo tambien tenia esas dudas con estos modelos, gracias por ayudar con el video, saludos desde Argentina!
Excellent comparison Arthur and great way to involve Jenna and the littles. I always enjoy your content. I really like the idea of the Sony hot shoe mics but I'm having a hard time justifying the price for them. Especially considering that I find that the Rode video Go 2 mic has better sound. Have you had a chance to try it?
i like the sound on both i admit.. but for the price.. i think i will be sticking with my RØDE VideoMicro .. yes it;s a relic in comparison and needs the audio cable to go into the camera.. but at less than half the price of either sony's there.. until they drop the price.. it is what i will be keeping
@@X99Zero I have seen some examples in wind, that even with a dead cat, the ZV-e10 does better than the Rode Video Micro. I think the NC on the B10 is the same digital DSP tech.
hey, I've bought this mic recently but I'm getting a ton of noise from the mic bouncing left and right to absorb any vibrations from moving. It's extremely loud and has me considering other methods of recording audio. Is there any way around this other than getting a separate recording system or new mic to attach a mic to?
You have probably already moved on or found a fix, but I see many people placing a small rubber band between the shock mount and the capsule head. That apparently stops the tapping sound that might be heard on your audio. I’ll find out soon when I purchase the G1 and immediately add a rubber band.
Neither mic produces a realistic sound, with huge dropoff in the bass frequencies. Fine for speech, but poor for ambient sounds. Also, the in-camera mics pickup sound in stereo (obviously not very well-separated however), but with even worse low freq sensitivity. I think the new mics on test here are both mono. The mic manufacturers are fixated on vlogging, unfortunately. If you need a stereo mic for ambient sound, sadly there's not much choice, especially if you need a compact design.
"I don't like either mike because I like Arthur" was underrated LOL
She's a keeper :D :D
yeesh
The rubber band hack is exactly what i was looking for!! thank you SO much, this saved me returning the G1 mic, i love how compact it is but noticed the rattling noise in my last couple videos
Did the rubber band hack work in the long run?
@@danielgarcia7447 yes!
The ability to remove background noise so well on the big one could be huge. In quiet areas the smaller one seemed really solid too though. Nice video
Nice to see you rockin that ZV-E10. I think the early hate for the camera was overblown. Amazing camera for the value.
Thank you for the review. The rubberband solution is a great idea. I. have owned the ECM-BM1 in the past. I loved the sound, but the clicking made it unusable if the camera was moving (vlogging handheld or mounted in a vehicle). Ultimately, I would like to own both and use them for different scenarios (B10 for hiking and run and gun filming and B1M for more stationary outdoor filming where I would like more control over the settings).
Jason
Excellent comparison Arthur 💯 For me the form factor of the G1 on an APS-C body simply is amazing. Totally usable in most scenarios. Cheers from Germany.
Thank you man for the video your a life saver. I got the g1 in the mail today for my a6000 it for sure sounds much better indoors. Outdoors it’s not the best with a lot of noise going on but it’s for sure an upgrade. The other one is obviously better but for the price difference I’ll wait to upgrade in the future
Hey Arthur. Great comparison video. I was able to use both amd liked the sound of the b10. That being said the g1 is an amazing mic. It is really nice because you just put it on the camera and you are done. Also the g1 works on the ZV-1!
The B10 is the way to go. I probably would have bought the B1M, but I don't think they make it any more, but from what I hear, the B10 is just as good.
BhPhoto has the B1M listed as 2-4 week special order, but I heard the same, Sony Discontinuned production due to part shortages.
The Rubber Band is GENIUS! I have been looking for a hack and never considered that!
how about B10 vs Rode VideoMic Pro+ since both in almost the same price point?
I'm impressed by the buit-in mic of ZV E10.
This was such a useful review Arthur. Thank you 🏆
I first listened to this video in a very noise fan filled room, so I had low expectations of making out sound quality between them, and was interested in your opinion. However, what struck me the most was the contrast of the BC10 for your very end comparison you did in your office. I have a B10 coming soon, can't wait to see it, especially with NC turned on.
Thanks for this video, because it really clarified my pursuit of the right mic. James
have you used the B10 for concerts or fireworks? what settings for those?
to my ear, the G1 is probably for these apscs that have previous gen builtin mic, such as A6000-A6600, to make them on par to the new gen mic- zve10. So it's not for the zve10. And the B10 and B1M is for some further upgrades.
I had to upgrade my 6400 onboard mic to the g1 . Day and night difference ... on Auto !
Micro USB is the devil's work
Amen
Yeah because you will be using it maybe 3 times during that mic's lifespan to upgrade the firmware.
Hi. I have a saramonic blink 100 paired with my sony a6100 and I can see that when I connected the mic (even just the cable) the mic level on camera marks on green at least one level even with no sound at all in the room. And when you play a recorded video you can hear I annoying noise sound, like a high pitched noise sound. How that can be fixed?
Man that ZVE10 footage look CLEAN AF what lens did you use??
also the built in mic is very impressive! It’s sounds just as good as the G1 but not better than the B10 but still very impressive
Sony 11mm F1.8! :)
@@ArthurR wow amazing I might have to scoop that lens up!
I would love to know the lens too, always curious!
@@SurvivorToHero he said it, Sony 11mm f1.8
@@hinfinity Ha! Yes he did thank you for pointing that out! I jumped the gun. I just sent my 11m F1.8 back. I couldn't handle the distortion for how it made me look in vlogs.
Finally, happy to be here
Xlr k3m is the way to go
G1 looks nice for vloging. I love my xlr k3m but its big for travelling great for exploration and similar
Is the built-in mic on the new A6700 the same as this built in mic?
do the g1 come with the furr thing ?
Honestly I was worried at first because I just purchased the large mic myself, but after hearing your audio samples I genuinely have to say I prefer the built in mic over the little one. There was just something hollow sounding about it. Not sure if anyone else agrees but that's where I'm at, ECM-B10 all the way!
Does anyone know if there is a microphone in the g1 form factor so you can mount it on a cold shoe? My setup has a top handle mounted in the middle of the cage and it would interfere with picking up sound. Or maybe there is an extension cable to take the mic out to the side.
Were you using catalyst browse for the clips of her walking or was that one of the stabilizations and was it a different lens or the kit lens cause it looked really good
Do you know if this mic is compatible with the Sony A73?
Hi friend, what do you prefer? Activating LC or NC or not?
Is it better to choose off and process everything we want in the processing program?
Another question, please, regarding the decibel, what do you recommend choosing?
Thanks
Hi Arthur, is the Sony ECM-W2BT Wireless Microphone any good ?
I would have liked to hear the bi-directional comparision between the two with the B10 both in a directional mode and omni mode, but still, thank you for doing it. I have been considering a Deity D4 Duo for this use (I like to talk to people while vlogging) but maybe the volume balance on the G1 is good enough to get by.
What if you were to test the Sennheiser MKE 200 and MKE 400?
Forget the MKE 400... The MKE 440 Is wayyy better, if you don't mind the size.
Would you be able to use the b10 for talking head videos?
Great Video, I have a a7riii which won't take advantage of the Digital Audio, so will the B10 be a better choice? Also I will be using it in a in classroom (kindergarden) performances. Will the G1 be fine?
Can use with A7III ?
I got b10 and I love it but I’m upgrading to 8 capsules one
What Microphone are you using in this video ?
Will you compare the ECM B1 with the B10?
to be honest the best vocals came from the one without a mic. Cheers to the camera. i find the little one spiking up too much and the big one gives the excessive car noises put down. I would use a mic if im at a crowded place like NYC but not perse on vacation at a place if you want to pick up everything from a bigger distance.
To my ear the G1 sounds the best. The B10 sounds a bit muffled and clipped.
lens on the thumbnail???
Video coming!
@@ArthurR Pins and Needles
Seems like the G1 is really only for Vlogging. If you were using the mic for family videos and not just vloging where you are right in front of the camera I would go with the B10.
Your right they need to lower the price
I think B10 is better. Thanks for your compare.
According to Sony Hong Kong technical support department when the a7c2 connects to the ecm-g1 microphone, it can only use analog input. If you use a7c2 with other higher-end microphones, you can use digital input or analog input. So when g1 connect to a7c2, there is no fully automatic audio leveling function. However, on other Sony camera models such as the a74, the camera can continue to use digital input and use the fully automatic volume leveling function.
Regarding this issue, I sent three emails to Sony's technical support department in Hong Kong, China and Japan. Reflecting my dissatisfaction, why do the same microphone have different reactions in different camera models.
I use the a7c2, a relatively entry-level camera, because I hope that using an entry-level microphone, I can adjust the volume completely automatically, without having to spend time manually adjusting the volume.
The B10 sounds best in most of the tests EXCEPT the back mic test. The G1 is much better than the B10 for the back mic test with Lucas. Because of this, G1 is the best for my needs because I use my camera to also record my son while I am talking to him behind the camera.
If you use the second pickup pattern it does a better job of behind the camera pickup.
@@ArthurR Thanks so much for the feedback
Hi Arthur, thank you for the review, excellent comparision, I think same to you! justo tambien tenia esas dudas con estos modelos, gracias por ayudar con el video, saludos desde Argentina!
Excellent comparison Arthur and great way to involve Jenna and the littles. I always enjoy your content. I really like the idea of the Sony hot shoe mics but I'm having a hard time justifying the price for them. Especially considering that I find that the Rode video Go 2 mic has better sound. Have you had a chance to try it?
Sony should pay you for this vid... because after watching it I clearly see I need both :D
I've watched Lucas grow into a handsome gentleman 😊😊
i like the sound on both i admit.. but for the price.. i think i will be sticking with my RØDE VideoMicro .. yes it;s a relic in comparison and needs the audio cable to go into the camera.. but at less than half the price of either sony's there.. until they drop the price.. it is what i will be keeping
Half the price and better sounding.
@@X99Zero I have seen some examples in wind, that even with a dead cat, the ZV-e10 does better than the Rode Video Micro. I think the NC on the B10 is the same digital DSP tech.
hey, I've bought this mic recently but I'm getting a ton of noise from the mic bouncing left and right to absorb any vibrations from moving. It's extremely loud and has me considering other methods of recording audio. Is there any way around this other than getting a separate recording system or new mic to attach a mic to?
You have probably already moved on or found a fix, but I see many people placing a small rubber band between the shock mount and the capsule head. That apparently stops the tapping sound that might be heard on your audio. I’ll find out soon when I purchase the G1 and immediately add a rubber band.
and now we have the ecm-m1
My man Lucas hustling them gum balls.
Rode video micro - our all!!!
Careful Arthur... theres always a bigger Mike out there... 😏😏
B10 excentuates the system, needs de-essing, i found it a bit annoying
I'm no pro.... I do family stuff, Birthday parties, holidays, and travel. The G-1 on AUTO.... takes care of all our needs.
Neither mic produces a realistic sound, with huge dropoff in the bass frequencies. Fine for speech, but poor for ambient sounds. Also, the in-camera mics pickup sound in stereo (obviously not very well-separated however), but with even worse low freq sensitivity. I think the new mics on test here are both mono. The mic manufacturers are fixated on vlogging, unfortunately. If you need a stereo mic for ambient sound, sadly there's not much choice, especially if you need a compact design.
Sony ECM XYST1M is a stereo 🎤mic.
I watched like dozens of videos, only now I noticed i wasn't even subscribed :D
The big mic has good wind noise reduction
I have a cheaper hotshoe mic. Bass is terrible and not much else other than scratch audio. Mv1 I think.
Bro, your wife is so beautiful, confident and so amazing. You are a lucky guy!
The G1 is the way to go.
Sounds like the onboard is more than capable.
B10 always sound digital, tinny and sizzling in all the reviews I saw. B1M and G1 options only, please skip B10.
The B10 sounds more natural.
G1 sounds like the built in mic. B10 blows it away. Significantly better than the G1.
built-in mic is nice...
Nasty charge never said it did but ok
Am I deaf, I’m not hearing any difference 😦
Than I’d like link that to a vocoder and fruity lp that boi. Than Edison. Thaaaan finally ott, setup, spend a billion years fixing ott phase
There is almost no difference between the zv e10 on board microphone and the g1. Seems you’re better of getting rode video micro for half the price
I have the B10, I can't stand ambient noise of any kind
B10 is the best.
"I'M LUCAS"
Its hard to believe Sony can't make a microphone mount, that doesn't need a rubber band to fix a design fail
You needed to ask your wife to be some distance from each mic, not to hold them all at arms length. What does tgat prove?
There’s no difference between the mic and the onboard sound, and I have really good ears. Maybe I should have warn headphones
awww she likes arthur!! not Mikes!
Don't say, "Dead cat".
Honestly the sound quality difference between those 3 is so neglectable lmao
B10 excentuates the s's, needs de-essing, i found it a bit annoying