Rest in Peace Shenge. Mangosuthu Buthelezi held Robert Sobukwe such exceptional highest regard. He referred to Sobukwe as the Great Mangaliso Sobukwe. He called Him "my SRC President in the Fort Hare College"
Brilliant TV presenter. Clear, critical, calm, respectful. Good work lady. Thanks for this serious and sharp analysis of one of our leaders. Very troubled human being (Mr Buthelezi) indeed - but certainly one of the most accomplished politicians of colonial, apartheid and 'democratic' South Africa.
I ALSO remember the lawyer Griffith Mxenge AND Victoria Mxenge his wife,murdered because he was defending UDF members in KZN. I remember Dr in Mamelodi treating victims of political violence,he was killed together with his wife, their children were still so small. MTSRP.🙏
Aren't there other tribes in south Africa to showcase their kingdoms or is it this Zulus alone?Thank you other tribes for being mature and understanding this bunch of people.They behave like kids,no wonder buthelezi never became the president.
I remember everything,it was bloody, using violence,we saw the trucks of defense force at night collecting hostel dwellers carrying spears dropping them in the townships to go and kill ANC supporters, people flee theirs homes and then they occupied their homes. I remember Khumalo street, a no go area,i remember the journalist who was shot from Thokoza hostel by a sniper, he lied dead on the street because ambulances were scared to venture into the hotel,he died clutching his camera,i forgot his surname and he was brave covering the political violence,he was so young MHSRP.🙏
This thing of some people hating Zulu people exists I can here it mostly from Ntsebenza. I thought during the war of black on black violence people from both ANC and IFP died little did I know that it was only IFP which killed ANC followers. I must check this history. I wonder what did Nelson Mandela meant when he said "Buthelezi is a survivor we have tried all means possible to destroy him but we failed
Unfortunately we can't separate u Bab Buthelezi to all those atrocious acts like all the other politians who did such acts and hid them with so called good dids. We are here living the mess they left behind. Buthelezi stood by what he believed in. I look at the streets of our country today while everyone is busy painting him as only bad. He worked hard as Minister of Home Affairs made sure that if you in South Africa as immigrant you have proper documentation and we know why you here. He was criticize in a manner those clean up were carried out, look at us now many illegal immigrants died in a fire just a few days ago. I wonder if those who have not done their work in enforcing the by laws do not have blood in their hands too
Wasn't it a civil war between two political parties? I'm just asking.....at the end of the day everyone has a right to choose how he or she wants to remember the man. I will always remember Buthelezi as a true gentleman and a man of integrity and peace. Unlike most superhero politicians who not until now people have realized that they sold us out, he stood side side-by-side with his own people, and for that, I respect him. Him as a man of violence, I don't knw where that comes from... because if he was a man of violence as these tired old men says, he wouldn't have left the ANC after it had decided to embark on an arms struggle. Buthelezi was without a doubt a man of peace....the ANC pushed him too hard and he had to react. And what these hypocrites don't mention is that during the civil war most of the people who died were IFP supporters. Who killed them? Surely the prince would not kill his own supporters. SA is now becoming if not already a failed state. This should tell us that the man knew what he was fighting for......your Mandelas chose the wrong path. How I wish my KZN became an independent state.
Is it possible that some of these activities between the police and IFP members took undercover and were not known to the leaders hence the constant denial by them on cooperating with each othet.
Political analysts like Justice are so empty. The late prince Mangosuthu Buthelezi did infact apologize for the violence the IFP was involved. There is s speech on TH-cam that he made. He did not refuse to participate in the elections but wanted the interest of the Zulu monarch to be on the agenda. We must put facts not subjective opinions. I just want imagine if the ANC negotiated in the same manner we would have gotten way more out of the negotiations. Till today no monarch in RSA gets such recognition or budget as the Zulu monarch.
I Strongly believe that these are not analyst but ANC members because even the ANC necklaced so many people but they don't say anything about it. Two,they are making serious claims against Dr MG Buthelezi which I think requires answers from anyone who might represent the late Prince
The strange thing is that when Buthelezi was alive there was not many people blaming him for his past and nobody can claim that they have no skeletons in their past political history, now should be time to remember uMtwana’s life like others’ eg Madiba, Botha, etc.
He didn't do anything,what other leaders did?why you only mention that to him,why not mandela ?nidakiwe and zosusa odweshu ngalento enikhuluma lapho,eNCA news has problem with Prince from now we knows that
Is this really analysis or the expression of long and deeply held views .u can fault gatsha in many things but not striving 2 better the plight,respect of the Zulu ppl and culture.the constitution is forthright in its need 2 protect minority rights(whites) they gladly appreciate the freedoms by enforcing the speaking,teaching and celebration of their cultures Nd history they taught for that why was gatsha wrong 4 fighting 4 that 4 zulus.justice and ntsebenza u can tell are products of an education system that failed 2 equipp them with the importance of self love
Rest in Peace Shenge. Mangosuthu Buthelezi held Robert Sobukwe such exceptional highest regard. He referred to Sobukwe as the Great Mangaliso Sobukwe. He called Him "my SRC President in the Fort Hare College"
Brilliant TV presenter. Clear, critical, calm, respectful. Good work lady.
Thanks for this serious and sharp analysis of one of our leaders. Very troubled human being (Mr Buthelezi) indeed - but certainly one of the most accomplished politicians of colonial, apartheid and 'democratic' South Africa.
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Nám, ndikhule kuthwa ngu Gatsha buthelezi , kubulwa abanntu yi, Nkatha e Joži, bebuya, bengenanto
The Chief with double agendas
I ALSO remember the lawyer Griffith Mxenge AND Victoria Mxenge his wife,murdered because he was defending UDF members in KZN.
I remember Dr in Mamelodi treating victims of political violence,he was killed together with his wife, their children were still so small.
MTSRP.🙏
I share you're sentiments😢.The 💏 So brutally killed just for supporting the Truth😢Very sad
Aren't there other tribes in south Africa to showcase their kingdoms or is it this Zulus alone?Thank you other tribes for being mature and understanding this bunch of people.They behave like kids,no wonder buthelezi never became the president.
I remember everything,it was bloody, using violence,we saw the trucks of defense force at night collecting hostel dwellers carrying spears dropping them in the townships to go and kill ANC supporters, people flee theirs homes and then they occupied their homes.
I remember Khumalo street, a no go area,i remember the journalist who was shot from Thokoza hostel by a sniper, he lied dead on the street because ambulances were scared to venture into the hotel,he died clutching his camera,i forgot his surname and he was brave covering the political violence,he was so young MHSRP.🙏
This thing of some people hating Zulu people exists I can here it mostly from Ntsebenza.
I thought during the war of black on black violence people from both ANC and IFP died little did I know that it was only IFP which killed ANC followers. I must check this history.
I wonder what did Nelson Mandela meant when he said "Buthelezi is a survivor we have tried all means possible to destroy him but we failed
Prou😮
Badakiwe izinja
The name of the journalist is Ken Oosterbroek from the Star newspaper I was 19years old living in Tokoza Everest section. Thank YOU so much
@@mydownloadsnkambule309Mandela was a good man of peace unlike this tribal warlord from Zululand.Bloody hands.
Haiyi Xolani let the man rest for God sake
Why should public figure be treated like pvt citizens the IFP has black SAns blood on its hands.
Truth hurts, but it remains truth regardless.
My favourite comments are people saying badakiwe to facts 😂
Unfortunately we can't separate u Bab Buthelezi to all those atrocious acts like all the other politians who did such acts and hid them with so called good dids. We are here living the mess they left behind. Buthelezi stood by what he believed in. I look at the streets of our country today while everyone is busy painting him as only bad. He worked hard as Minister of Home Affairs made sure that if you in South Africa as immigrant you have proper documentation and we know why you here. He was criticize in a manner those clean up were carried out, look at us now many illegal immigrants died in a fire just a few days ago. I wonder if those who have not done their work in enforcing the by laws do not have blood in their hands too
Wasn't it a civil war between two political parties? I'm just asking.....at the end of the day everyone has a right to choose how he or she wants to remember the man. I will always remember Buthelezi as a true gentleman and a man of integrity and peace. Unlike most superhero politicians who not until now people have realized that they sold us out, he stood side side-by-side with his own people, and for that, I respect him. Him as a man of violence, I don't knw where that comes from... because if he was a man of violence as these tired old men says, he wouldn't have left the ANC after it had decided to embark on an arms struggle. Buthelezi was without a doubt a man of peace....the ANC pushed him too hard and he had to react. And what these hypocrites don't mention is that during the civil war most of the people who died were IFP supporters. Who killed them? Surely the prince would not kill his own supporters. SA is now becoming if not already a failed state. This should tell us that the man knew what he was fighting for......your Mandelas chose the wrong path. How I wish my KZN became an independent state.
Kona kona ndikhule lomfo edumile ngobulala amaxhosa kakhulu cz amaxhosa ngawo ewayedominater kwi anc ngala xesha. ....lona wayesitya namabhulu
Hawuhe iqiniso libuhlungu ngoba konke kuyiqiniso akekho ongakushintsha. Bafa abantu yasha imizi saphela isizwe umlando obuhlungu kwabahlukumezeka amanxeba awakapholi.
Why is the IFFP still working with YT ppl ( Moonshot packed) they always go against othe blk ppl and side with YTs.
Is it possible that some of these activities between the police and IFP members took undercover and were not known to the leaders hence the constant denial by them on cooperating with each othet.
Political analysts like Justice are so empty. The late prince Mangosuthu Buthelezi did infact apologize for the violence the IFP was involved. There is s speech on TH-cam that he made. He did not refuse to participate in the elections but wanted the interest of the Zulu monarch to be on the agenda. We must put facts not subjective opinions. I just want imagine if the ANC negotiated in the same manner we would have gotten way more out of the negotiations. Till today no monarch in RSA gets such recognition or budget as the Zulu monarch.
I Strongly believe that these are not analyst but ANC members because even the ANC necklaced so many people but they don't say anything about it. Two,they are making serious claims against Dr MG Buthelezi which I think requires answers from anyone who might represent the late Prince
Well it doesn't matter, Shenge will remain a powerful leader to us, so they can go to hell.
This man doing interview here is so bias no one was Innocent in politics in south Africa what we see now it shows that
Mandela was fighting against apartheid regime hence he was arrested and hated by apartheid but I can't say the same about the IFP.
@@amahlentshangase4975he was trying to protect us anc hyenas
What are you talking about the topic is the legacy of Mr Buthelezi and the IFP . Pls dont be emotional.
The strange thing is that when Buthelezi was alive there was not many people blaming him for his past and nobody can claim that they have no skeletons in their past political history, now should be time to remember uMtwana’s life like others’ eg Madiba, Botha, etc.
He disputed the book called THE CHIEF WITH DOUBLE AGENDA. Today we have a hitman from KZN and we think it is a mistake.
He didn't do anything,what other leaders did?why you only mention that to him,why not mandela ?nidakiwe and zosusa odweshu ngalento enikhuluma lapho,eNCA news has problem with Prince from now we knows that
Joo the police station story is terrible.
These analysts are just full of hate.
Msunu wena uyabheda
Dont be emotional play the ball not the man The IFP still aligns with YTS to this day.
Is this really analysis or the expression of long and deeply held views .u can fault gatsha in many things but not striving 2 better the plight,respect of the Zulu ppl and culture.the constitution is forthright in its need 2 protect minority rights(whites) they gladly appreciate the freedoms by enforcing the speaking,teaching and celebration of their cultures Nd history they taught for that why was gatsha wrong 4 fighting 4 that 4 zulus.justice and ntsebenza u can tell are products of an education system that failed 2 equipp them with the importance of self love
Analysts full of hatred towards the Zulu Nation mxm!
Stop being emotional they are talking Mr Buthelezi and the IFP legcy which still to this day sides with yts.
Nidakiwe nina zinjaaas
Your being emotional play the ball not the man.
Bancono baphumula kunale nhlupheko eyalethwa i anc ebantwini
Yaz ya deep lento oyisho🙏🏾