3D Printer Bed Level Visualizer (Without Octoprint!)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2022
- Getting your build plate level is critical if you want to have an excellent first layer or good prints in general. Using auto bed leveling options like the BLTouch can help significantly, but it can only do so much, and it puts extra load on the stepper motors and drivers. In this video, I show you how to use Proterface to get the values of your mesh and also show you how to visualize it without Octoprint.
If you have any questions on the content covered in this video, feel free to leave a comment below with them. I try to reply to all comments within 48 hours.
Resources
Cura Profiles: 3dprintscape.com/cura-profiles
Visualizer Site: lokspace.eu/3d-printer-auto-b...
Software Option: 3dwork.io/en/visualize-3d-mesh/
Hardware
Ender 3 Pro on Amazon: geni.us/vIAIx
Ender 3 V2 on Amazon: geni.us/ur8YHM
HATCHBOX Filament on Amazon: geni.us/BJx0Gdj
Videos
Octoprint Bed Level Visualizer Install & Usage Guide: • Octoprint Bed Level Vi...
Pronterface Setup - The Easy Way!: • Pronterface Setup - Th...
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I hope you found this overview helpful! If you have any questions or would like other tips/tricks, just let me know in the comments.
Yes, helpful for sure. Great to know about that webpage.
Man thank you seriously. I had to sift through so much garbage to find out how to simply view my beds plane. I swear this hobby of 3d printing attracts a lot of people who love hearing themselves talk. You got straight to the point with no bullshit AND your information actually worked! Thanks man.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback, i appreciate it.
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised when he basically covered the summary of the solution in the first minute before going into the details.
Your video came at the right time for me. I was just wondering how to do that without using octoprint. Thank you! BTW keep up the good work!
Glad I could help!
This is great, trying to help a friend set up a mesh bed over distance was almost impossible. This gives a visual solution.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback and ya things like that are difficult to do remotely.
thankyou, i was looking for something like this without needing octoprint! already had pronterface so it was easy enough after that.
You're welcome!
Great video, I will try this tonight!
Hi. Thanks for the feedback.
Very helpful Rob Thank you!
You're Welcome
Cracking video as always mate ! Super useful. Ever think you will do an Ender 3 klipper beginners guide ?
Hi. Thanks for the feedback and yes i plan on making video around klipper, hopefully pretty soon.
@@3DPrintscape brilliant, want to try and convert my Ender 3 to Klipper. Amazing videos as always. Been watching for ages. Hope you keep growing and growing
Man, it took me so long to find this explanation. I knew there had to be a way haha
Hi. Glad to help :)
@@3DPrintscapeIt made life so much easier! Now I can properly visualize and correct my leveling.
So, when doing it as you have done here, is G29 triggering the printer's built-in mesh routine, or is it driven by pronterface? I ask because yours looked like 3x3, while most printers I'm aware of tend to do a 4x4 mesh at minimum.
Hi. The g29 command kicks off the built in mesh. In most cases that is a 3x3 grid. With some larger printers its set to 5x5.
Great video, nice little applet you found.. from what I can see all these beds are warped anywhere between 0.1 to 1mm between centres and corners, even if all corners are spot on, the center will dip or rise considerably.
I'm assuming the bed of budget printers like the ender 3 lineup have aluminium or polypropylene beds, not sure which yet, and at 3mm thick and constant bed heat cycles and temps of 70 odd degrees C doesn't help either.
Hi. Ya most of the bed on creality printers have some type of warp in them. Using a ABL kit and switching to glass helps a lot though.
@@3DPrintscape yeah definitely helps, I got a cr touch which improved things considerably, I'm currently building a bunch of beds less prone to warping using various materials and trialling higher bed temps
Hi. Thanks for the video. Love your channel. Quick question. In Pronterface visualization, if it shows red then that part of the bed is too high, right? So I would need to tighten the wheel to make that corner go down, right? Same for the opposite. I just don't get how I'll do little tweaks to dial it in and next time I g29 and visualize it, it goes way out of whack. Also I get sharp peaks in between the corners. Ender 3 with glass bed. Thanks!!
Hi. Yes red would mean too high and can be fixed by tightening the wheels. Its possible your bed is warped. Try to run the test without the glass build plate to see if anything really stands out.
@@3DPrintscape Thanks for the reply. So if you have the BL Touch, then using the visualizer is just meant to get it close then let the BL do the rest?
@@squishefoot Basically, yes. The more level the bed is the less work the drivers need to do.
Hey I genuinely need help with the ender 3 pro when I start a 3d print, it will go to settings that I don't want it to go for bed heat and nozzle
Hi. Im not following your question but if it the base settings for the bed and nozzle temp would come from Cura.
Will this work with the s1 pro? Also can u show how u hooked the printer to the computer and setting up the website. Im a dummy when it comes to this side of things. My s1 pro doesn’t give any data about the bed other than the percentage of it being done
Hi, this should work with the s1 and I have a video covering connecting it to the computer. Search for pronterface on my channel.
Great video. I was wondering how to get the visualizer.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback :)
hi i enjoy your videos has helped me alot but would you tell me how did you get your print bed with that design on it i really would like to do mine thank you
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. The bed is gorilla glass with a mirror backing. I helped a subscriber a while back and he ended up making them for me.
love it
Thanks
When I connect my ender 3 s1 G28 command works but It just waits when I send G29. Any idea? Thx for the video.
Hi. Do you have all the bltouch options in the menu?
next video could you say my in the start which is. snail trail. i am a huge fan i also got first comment love your vids. i got the same printer 😀😀😀😀😀
Hi. Thanks for all comments. I have my next couple of videos already recorded but if an opportunity comes up to mention you were it makes sense after that i will consider it.
@@3DPrintscape ok cool thanks
grate vid
Thanks
keep it up
Thanks
my anycubic kobra go shows negative 5.----- when i do a g29 is there a setting im missing in pronterface the visualizer shows nothing how do i fix this
Hi. Did you copy the mesh info over to the visualizer? If so, change one of the values to make it positive to see if it shows you anything.
no change the kobra starts at 5 then lowers wonder if that were the -5 is coming from i cant change it because that's were it homes all values are -5
@@3DPrintscape
It may be outside the range of the app. There shouldnt be values that far out in either direction from 0. It @@bigfoot3387
Cura can connect to my Ender 3 Max running Marlin 2.1.1, but Ponterface will not. Can anyone help me out here? I've looked over the net and cannot find a solution, or recommend an alternative bed visualiser?
(I don't have Cura or any other printer software running when I try to connect with Ponterface)
Hi. DO you get an error or anything? If you connected with cura first you may get an access denied issue when moving over to pronterface because software likes to lock connections. You may need to reboot when moving between them.
@@3DPrintscape
Thanks for the quick response and for even replying. I tried connecting with pronterface first, rebooted the PC as well, killed all uneccessary Windows tasks and apps. Just says "Connecting..." and nothing else. Baud rate set to 115200 to match the printer. Computer can see it and it appears as COM 3 in device manager.
Ever other piece of software I've tried sees and communicates with the printer no issues, made sure I am using a high quality data USB cable.
Sadly none of the other 'slicers' seem to have a bed visualizer like PF does which is what I am interested in.
Using Windows 11 Pro if that helps any.
ETA: Running Marlin 2.1.1 on it. Had the same issue with 2.0.9.
@@TheCunningStunt I wonder if its a driver issue. Try removing the driver from device manager and let windows reinstall it when you reconnect the printer.
@@3DPrintscape yep, already did that. Also sought out and manually installed drivers. just seems my printer and ponterface don't like each other. But thanks any way.
@@TheCunningStunt Thats really odd, i havent seen that before. Do you have a small ras pi or old laptop that you can install octoprint on? You would be able to get the bed visualizer that way as well.
im having a problem where my printer will probe 7x7 but it only outputs numbers for 6x6. any idea what it is doing?
Hi. Thats interesting. Can you try to do an 8x8 grid and see if it still caps it at 6x6?
@@3DPrintscape hey, sorry. I found my mistake. it was working as it should. I didn't realize there was a data point at (0,0) so when it had numbers up to 7,7 for an 8x8 grid I thought it was doing things wrong.
I still cant get it to correct for the warp properly though the front left corner is still too low even with multiple slow probing on an 8x8 grid. there must be another problem.
I'm also desperately struggling to fight the heat creep on my ender 3. any suggestions would be very valuable.
@@realisticthinking3019 What type of build plate are you using and did you manually level the bed first?
@@3DPrintscape i am using a flexible magnetic textured buildplate. the bed is level but warped. i have had some success since but it is still not compensating exactly right
@@3DPrintscape I have deep cleaned the print bed and dried it thuroughly and im printing a single layer sheet across the bed. it seems like it is printing too close but it is not sticking. some places are too high and others are too close but they dont stick at all. any ideas?
My bed won’t visualize. All my numbers are negative, when I switch some to positive it will work. How do I fix?
Hi. Thats interesting, all values shouldnt be negative. Did you manually level the bed before trying this?
@@3DPrintscape no, it’s a kobra max so I can’t manually adjust it.
@@TheHopson Gotcha, i dont have a good answer for you. I just havent worked with that printer much at all.
Mine won't visualize either. Printer is also a Kobra Max and all numbers are negative.
@@rkuhlmann21 If you change one number to 0 or positive does is vsualize?
Hi I used to use this website regularly but I can no longer access it is anyone else having this issue?
Hi. I noticed that the site has been down off and on, not sure why.
Hello Robert. We need to hire someone (you?) for a gig to program custom Marlin firmware. I checked your "About" info on TH-cam and your 3D PrintScape site but can't find an email address for you anywhere to see if you are interested or if you can recommend a programmer to us. How can I contact you?
Hi. Thanks for reaching out. You can email me at admin@3dprintscape.com
Printer just returned an unknown g code when I typed in g29. Mk3s+ with 3.10.1-4697
G81 returned the values from the 7x7 mesh
Hi. That sounds like a difference between the firmware.
Same with mk2.5s, 7x7 worked with g81. Thanks
Hi.,octoprint is a hardware or software only
Hi. Octoprint is software but it needs to be installed on some like a raspberry pi or dedicated linux box. Basically, there needs to be a physical connection between the machine and device with Octoprint.
thank you sir
@@mohammedabdulla8693 You're Welcome
visualizer site dont work
Hi. I just checked and cant get to it either. Hopefully they fix it, if not i will try to find another one.
Is it just me or does the visualizer rarely load?
Hi. I have had no issues with it loading.
Need help, why does my bed results not work in the visualizer? Is it because I have all negatives? If so what does that mean? Here are my results for you to try. Thanks
0 1 2 3 4
0 -2.473 -2.146 -1.918 -1.746 -1.587
1 -2.044 -1.791 -1.581 -1.483 -1.368
2 -1.947 -1.709 -1.570 -1.528 -1.485
3 -2.068 -1.870 -1.730 -1.727 -1.722
4 -2.453 -2.258 -2.135 -2.150 -2.093
Hi. I think its because the values are all negative like you mentioned. It doesnt have a center point to work off of. That said, i think something is wrong as all values shouldn't be negative.