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- Installing the barrage motor in the new C10
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Just did one on my C10, thanks for the vid it really helped a lot. It really is a great upgrade for so cheap, I even bought a pre made mounting plate with the barrage holes pre drilled from ebay for a few bucks and it worked perfectly as well. Also I didn't re solder the wires I unpinned the connector and switched the wires in the connector.
Awesome! Glad it helped out. I actually have one of those mounts that I use for a template now lol. Just slap the stock plate under it and drill. Works great! I usually flip the trans on most of them now and you don’t have to swap the wires at all!
Def gonna be rewatching this video soon. Thank you for sharing.
Wow, subbed right away !! Just got mine a month ago, starters modding and running, and I see the potential !!! I live in Canada, so I'm always looking for indoor RC for winter, and good outdoor as well !!Great video, keep it up !!
EchobeeFPV awesome! Thanks so much for the sub! I love these little trucks just for the fact that you can run them inside and not worry about the weather cooperating! Thanks for again watching! Let me know if you wanna see anything in particular.
Really appreciate you keeping it real in your videos! Just finished the barrage motor swap and have the double barrel shock upgrade on the way. And for anybody interested in the barrage-motor upgrade you can avoid having to solder the motor wires by just flipping them at the plug!
You mean switching the cables on the white part of the connector?
@@MelbourneExclusive0 yes
I would rather resolder the cables on the motor than to play with this tiny plug. Never had any success with those.
@@schwuzi it was pretty easy, all it took was a small blade, lifted the tab of the cables, re attached them and it worked
Every time I plan on doing something to my scx24 I find you already have a video of it out, most helpful! I think I'll be using the injora 050 66T motor in mine with the mounting plate
Haha! That’s what I shoot for! Hope it helps! The Injora has been a solid motor for me. The Ox motor has honestly been the best that I’ve ran so far though. Let me know if ya need anything. Thanks for watching!
I watched your video just installed the barrage motor last night great video and tutorial I mounted backcountry hardbody on my c10 chassis 💯👌👍big like ND subbed
Awesome! Glad it helped out a bit! Thanks so much for the sub. Let me know if I can help with anything else!!!
Great video on the ECX motor. Thank you
Terry toste so glad it helped! Thanks so much for watching!
Cool upgrade 👍🏼
Great video. Great job. Probably the clearest & most detailed I’ve seen. Don’t think I can make the change though. I’d screw it up. I hope my motor doesn’t go!
Thanks I really appreciate it. It’s really not too bad. You can also swap the plugs on the motor where it plugs in to the esc if you don’t like to solder. That makes it a bit easier for some. Thanks for watching either way!
@@2fmrc how do you swap the 2 plugs just unplug them and re attach them?
@@MelbourneExclusive0 yeah you can do that. I resoldered mine. Either works
Thx for the awesome instructional!
Cpt Crunch thanks so much for watching and commenting!
Well as you know my motor went today so I’ll be doing this very soon. New motors are expected to be here Saturday. Just thought I would watch this video again. Thanks again.
Jeep broke well i hate that your motor went but you’ll love the upgrade! Hope the video helps with the install. Thanks again for watching and let me know if you need anything!
Thank you Matt. My motors came today. A day early. Everything went smooth. I even saved money by not buying a motor plate and just drilling the stock on. The motor seems to have more torque and maybe a little more Control. I’ll run it more tomorrow and know for sure. Thanks again.
Jeep broke awesome! Glad the install went well. I think they feel like they have a little more control also. Wasn’t sure if it was just in my head or what but I’m pretty sure they do! Definitely better torque. Let me know how they do tomorrow.
My motor went out yesterday. Probably only about 15 cycles... gonna have to do the barrage and some diff covers soon! Probably for the better, I think my other RC's were getting jealous! Lol
Cpt Crunch haha! I’ve got so many now I can’t keep up with which one has what lol. I have a few things on the way for the Enduro and new C10!
Just installed mine!
Nice! Hope you enjoy it!
Thanks for the video Matt, great help during installation! I used a 5/64" drill, which is approximately 2mm. A little bit bigger would be OK, too. However, I messed the drill holes up kind of. Hope it will work anyway :-)
Glad the video helped! Hopefully it’ll still work for ya! Let me know!
@@2fmrc It does, the performance gain is impressive! Better modulation, smoother overall driving. Thanks again!
Thanks buddy.
Great video I subbed i use allot of flux when I soldier 💯👊😀👍🏻
Adventure Time RC thanks so much! I normally use quite a bit of flux as well. Don’t much need it on these tiny little wires but it definitely helps on bigger stuff.
I have one of these ordered, and also an RGT 050 High powered motor Crawler Spec 13526.
I was wondering what the difference between them was.
@@BraedonBriscoe Exact same motor. barrage sells for less $
Thank you
On my SCX 24 I put a battery from my Hobby plus 1/18 scale rc that is 7.4 v and 600 mah. With a HBX Devastator motor and took gears out or another cheap rc for the pinon and spur gear. Now it's maybe three times as fast and still crawls well . I will never buy another stock SCX 24 motor. I have gone thru at least 5 or 6 of them in the year I have had my SCX24RC.
Heck yeah! Sounds like a good combo! I usually swap the stock motor as soon as I start much upgrades. Rarely ever run the stock motor. I still have it in one of my C10s but I hardly ever use it so that’s why lol. I have a couple extra barrage motors waiting!
my scx24 motor just died on me cant wait to get this one
Just cooked my stock motor, so this will definitely be rewatched soon! Once the Barrage comes back in stock anyway.
Awesome! You can get the RGT from Banggood and it’s the same as the barrage. Takes about 10-12 days to get usually but it works great and installs the same.
[US$7.07 58% OFF]13625 050 High Power Brushed RC Car Motor For RGT 136240 V2 1/24 Vehicle RC Rock Crawler Off-road Parts RC Parts from Toys Hobbies and Robot on banggood banggood.app.link/rF4sPSLPydb
I've been wondering what Motor to go for, I did see one person put in the 100t, I ain't seen no feedback about it
Nice video 👍
Thanks!
Came here just to see if you reversed the wire and to make sure that was cool...first timer here, thank you!
Awesome! Thanks so much for checking out the channel! You can either solder the wires or pull them out of the connector and flip them. Whichever you prefer. I’d rather solder them than fight the tiny connector 😂
@@2fmrc Yep, soldered them here as well, nice and clean! Thanks again!
@@2fmrc How do you pull them out of the connector? I don't know how to solder yet.
I’m considering about doing this, or maybe put a cheapo brushless sensored motor I found on Ali express, great mod I’ll keep in mind, you should try to transmission flip the car, but more weight in the front and see how much better it’ll preform. I’m also considering that pickup yoga body!i would like to put the interior and engine in it but we will see how it’ll go!
Nathan’s Rc Garage the only problem I’ve heard from that brushless setup is that it’s almost impossible to program and that it didn’t crawl well the way it comes. I haven’t tried it though. I just heard a few people talk about it. I put the castle sidewinder 2 micro and the Holmes revolver in my other rig and it’s AWESOME! Great way to go brushless and with the castle link you can adjust everything about it. I will eventually probably install the castle setup in my yota because it can run brushed motors as well. It’s the overall best option in my opinion. The esc is lik $60 which isn’t bad but then you gotta swap to a different rx/tx etc since it isn’t built in. The control that setup has is unreal tho! It’s soooo smooth!
@@2fmrc yes i was thinking about getting a 380 revolver, but people may had problems because its a small brushless motor with no sensor, the motor will cog and it'll be bad. I've looked at the castle micro but its kinda steep...but I'm looking forward to putting a yota body etc.
Nathan’s Rc Garage I’ll have to post a comparison vid between stock and my castle with the revolver. I haven’t had any cog issues and it’s crawling ability is amazing! Being able to set the drag brake with the castle link is a life saver.
@@2fmrc Yes revolver motors don't cog, they don't need to be sensored because they cant cog really!
You could also switch the wires in the plug too.
How does the Barrage motor compare to the RCRWD FF-030 motor? I put one in my Deadbolt & it’s a little slower than stock but has more torque.
Yep! As long as they are switched lol
I did the same, much easier than soldering them off and back on!
the panda hobby tetra X1 180 brushed motor looks like it might work, thoughts?
It would be nice if you could try to include links to the products you are installing for us viewers to find easily
Yeah I’ve tried to start doing that but the problem is the scx24 stuff is hardly ever in stock so the links are useless most the time lol. And I put the links in the description and still have like 30 people ask where they can buy it! I almost always get my stuff from eBay just because i can usually find someone who’s willing to ship it quick.
@@2fmrc thats what i resorted to that and ebay
i had an rgt defender but i had to go get a scx24 jeep after watching ur vids lol
Nice! Which do you like better?
@@2fmrc not sure yet because I only ordered the scx24 tonight haha
@@AeneasMacdonaldEdits lol cool. Well let me know when you get it!
@@2fmrc yeh definitely. I was thinking i would love to see what you could do with a Gelande 1/18th Landrover! i think they are so cool, would be cool to see the master of mini builts have a play around with it!
Great video! How do you remove the pinion gear off the stock motor?
Alissa Jones thanks so much! I took a flat head screwdriver and placed it between the motor and pinion. Then sort of twist the screwdriver until it’s pushing/prying against the pinion. It will eventually pop off.
“Hope it sticks” that’s what I’m saying 😆
All you can do 😂
Nice! How'd you know that you needed to swap the wires?
Thanks! The way the motor is installed in this vs the barrage. It’s flipped. You can solder them like I did or pull them apart at the connector and switch them.
Hey I like your channel, just got the ECX barrage motor for my scx24 I love the low end torque but now the drivetrain is super squeaky lol and high pitched even when I did a loose mesh, any tips on how to make it less noisy on the drivetrain? thanks!
It’s just something to do with the barrage. Mine is kinda the same. Super loud and sounds like the gear mesh is horrible but it’s actually set good. Not sure what it is honestly. Everyone’s is that way though
@@2fmrc its the barrage motor. my son used to have a barrage gen2 and the motor is the loudest part in the whole thing
Just found your channel and subscribed!
I just got the B-17 Betty! What size tools are you using? I saw the 1.5mm for the trans/motor bolts, but what about the rest? Also do you know what size the wheel nut is? None of the tools in any of my RC tool kits fit, they're all to large.
Awesome! Thanks so much for subscribing! I really appreciate it. I was in the same boat as you when I got my 1st scx24. Having a bunch of 1/10 stuff none of my tools would fit lol. I use the MIP drivers now and they are absolutely worth the money. I use the .050 inch and 1.5mm the most. The wheel nuts need a 4mm nut driver. Let me know if you need anything else!
@@2fmrc Awesome, thanks. Good to know. Time to buy some more tools!😁
What % more power would you say you get with this upgrade.?
So can this put up with a heavy scx24
With Tons of brass uprgrades????
I did this upgrade and found the motor sits right against the frame rail which pushes the motor so the pinion does not mesh well. Any ideas? Thanks
When you did the swap to the barrage motor is there any besides a mounting plate I’d need to look for or do? Finally able to order these just burnt out the rc4wd micro motor not even 2 battery’s worth of running
No just the motor plate. You can just drill the stock one yourself or order a plate.
@@2fmrc thanks man. Love your videos and crawlers. Got some killer ideas from you. 💪💪
Ever figure out drill bit size?
Did you file the frame to make the motor sit straight? Mine is sitting slightly crooked because it is hitting the frame.
No mine never touched but it’s fairly close. Not as close as the surpass motor I’d say.
Does the barage motor burn out as quick as the stock one?
What are the key benefits in changing the stock motor to the barrage motor?
C c mostly just better power and durability. A lot of people have trouble keeping the stock motor. They die pretty quick sometimes. I swapped my 1st one after I had added a lot of weight and really needed more power. Now I just basically swap them all lol. I still have a couple trucks that I haven’t had time to switch over yet but I have a barrage waiting for them.
You didn't need to solder at all I did the same thing on mine and just switched the wires around on the plug, unless you said that in your video already lol.
Which switch?
@@thecollegescrub9361 I sold mine so I really can't remember. But I didn't solder anything and I got it to work I know that
@@tmar352 I think u mean the forward and reverse switch
@@MelbourneExclusive0 I just unplugged and switched the wires around on the barrage motor plug. You can pry the tabs up and slide wires out.
@@tmar352 thanks I just did the same lol. Did you have to drill your gear case to clear the motor pinion? Thanks in advance
Why didn’t you use the pinion that comes with the Barrage motor? They appear to be the same size
I’m just the type that sticks with stock gearing lol. Not much difference in them so I just went with what I had been running.
Thanks for the video! Can you also link here a video with the motor in action or how is compared with the stock motor?
Power, Running Time, Speed, etc.
Doesn’t get much faster more for torque
Will the 1202 motor work? I can't find the 1203 barrage motor only 1202
What's up there Matt!? Hey I just swapped the stock motor for a barrage. After it's all back together the truck is quite a bit louder, more screech, than before. I'm assuming it's the gear mesh but not sure how to adjust it, or if I need to at all. Any words of wisdom for a rookie?
Did you drill the plastic case? It can foul on the end of the motor shaft. If it's the gear mesh you'll have to make your holes a little bigger so you can move the motor away from the spur gear before you tighten it.
@@Fredward1986 thanks for the help. I did drill out the case. It ended up being the mesh. I just had to do as you suggested and slightly move where the motor was positioned.
Have you had any issues with the the out put shaft of the motor spinning inside the gear when your in tight spots?
No. I had one do it as soon as I put it together (on a different truck) and I re-glued it and made sure I got it glued real well and haven’t had any issues since. Now I usually cover the shaft of the motor with a little glue and then slide the pinion on. Let it sit for plenty long enough to dry and it’s good to go
@@2fmrc ok thanks for the info. I dabbed a little glue on it after putting the gear on. I’ll take it apart and do it your way. I love the 24s but disappointing axial continues to use that junk motor.
i just installed a furitek chameleon motor and i got to that point where i put the spur gear on and it was rubbing on the inside motor screw and yes i put it on the correct way. literally didnt change anything to do with the spur or the screws. the motor screws are different than all the rest so i know the correct screw is where its suppose to be. i had to file down the head of the motor mount screw so the spur didnt rub on the screw and bind up. what the hell did i do wrong? also, only about 2/3rds of the spur make contact with the pinion, like the pinion is sitting to far out. i tried pushing the pinion further down on the motor shaft but i felt like i was gonna break my brand new motor.
Besides the spur getting flipped idk of anything that would cause it to sit any differently. Unfortunately sometimes these companies don’t get those pinions on exactly where they need to be. They are a pain to push on also. I normally use a vice with a small socket over the motor shaft sitting on the pinion & something similar on the backside against the motor between the wires if I absolutely have to push it on any farther but it can be a pain.
Can you just cut the wires about half way up or whatever and then just flip the wires when you tie them back together?
You can actually just pull the wires out of the connector and flip them as well.
@@2fmrc word even easier. I watched your vid on the Injora motor, ordering that and the plate combo from Amazon. I like the plug and play aspect of it and the plate is so damn shiny 😉
You mind sending me the exact model number of the motor, or the link where you ordered it from? Great video Thanks!
Trent Wolff I think I bought mine off of eBay but you can get them from horizon.
www.horizonhobby.com/product/motor-and-pinion-gear-1-24-barrage/DYNS1203.html
Thanks!
How's that dyns1203 motor holding up.
I have a ton of brass including some custom made links on my C10 and I'm burning stock motors every run.
Jake doing great! I have one in a couple trucks with quite a bit of weight and they do well. I run 3s a lot of the time with them lol
@@2fmrc just installed one. We'll see how she runs.
Also, I found that one of my mods was causing some drag in the front. Fixed that and now she rolls nicely
Hey man how tight are u screwing the nut for the spur gear down
Kayla Strong I just snugged it down good. Don’t think it has to be crazy tight or anything. I mean I made sure it was tight but I didn’t crank on it or anything. Very good question. I should’ve mentioned that!
9:44 why would you re solder the motor wires when its so easy to just flip them at the connector?
Easier for me to solder than deal with those little pins in those connectors 😆. I just solder a lot so I went with it. You can do it however you like
How did you secure the pinion onto the shaft, i used "superglue" and as soon as i got into a hard spot it let go...
He glues it in the video.
Do they make a bracket for this motor now? My stock motor just died after 16 months of use lol so I’m debating just buying another stock to plug and play or go this route
Yes. Several different companies make them now. Here’s one on amazon!
amzn.to/3wtG91d
@@2fmrc thanks for your response once again lol, I see that the barrage are on Amazon as well right? Is the barrage a lot louder? Would you say it’s still the best way to go for the price? I was going to just put another stock one in lol
@@jayf2487 honestly I prefer the ox motor but the barrage is still a great option and is hard to pass up for the price. I’d definitely go another route over stock. They are just weak and unreliable. The barrage is a bit louder but worth it for the added power imo.
Looks like you are using MIP hex driver. What size are you using?
BigSung Hobbies sorry I just seen this. I mostly use a .5 for anything with the scx24. The mips are great! Well worth the money. Hope this helps!
@@2fmrc Thanks for the reply. I ended up ordering 1.3mm hex driver which, hopefully, will work.
@@2fmrc It's actually .05 hex driver from MIP
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What tools did you use?
Could the wires be switched around at the plug by unclipping them instead of soldering the wires at the motor?
Yes. Or you can flip the transmission and it’ll pull the correct direction also. Either works!
@@2fmrc do you have a video on flipping the transmission or is it just a case of bolting it in the opposite way?
@@timotayv6 yeah you just spin it around and bolt it back in. You’ll have to move your driveshafts also. So you keep front in the front and rear in the rear.
Why can't you just rotate the motor to line up stock holes?
Where did you get the Toyota body?
Are all the body styles of the scx24 the same chassis?
jeremy m same basic chassis but different length links that change wheel base slightly. Also different body post & bumpers between models. You can swap any of them around to basically become another version with just a little work.
You could have just pulled the connectors out of the plug and swapped instead of soldering lol 😂
I hate messing with those connectors! Easier to solder for me lol. I usually just flip the transmission and you don’t have to do either 🤷🏻♂️
So why do u have to switch the wires around
7:32 man gets rc motor installed to finger for fast stirring of ☕ beverages
Haha! Wouldn’t be the 1st time lol
What cable is that u used for the headlights (extension cable that is) and where did u get it?
It’s one of these on/off switches. It extends the lead so you can move them and also allows you to turn them off and on with your channel 3 switch!
Apex RC Products RC Remote Electronic AUX Channel On/Off Switch #9025 www.amazon.com/dp/B07BKSGW3D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_jd73Fb6E77ZD0
@@2fmrc nice. Appreciate it. Keep up the good work and content.
@@garandcanavan1028 no prob! Thanks a lot for watching! Really appreciate it 🙏
Okay so I watched this then did it on two of my cars..... It worked on one but I then promptly burnt out 3 ESCs. Any help would be much appreciated
Possibly the gear mesh too tight or binding somewhere. Make sure the wheel nuts aren’t too tight also. I’ve yet to kill a barrage motor in any of mine and I’ve been running them for a good year and a half.
@@2fmrc it wasn't the motor that burnt out... The receiver literally caught on fire. I'm thinking I may not have soldered the wires on correctly. The gears were turning relatively easily as were the wheels. Any other suggestions? Also, thank you for the quick response. I appreciate it!
i did the upgrade and didnt switch my wires . and still runs and drives straight and reverse fine... and i cant tell if reverse or forward is faster
Yeah it depends which way you run the transmission really. I flipped mine in my latest barrage swap and didn’t have to switch the wires either.
@@2fmrc yeah i just switched them to see. and now everything is swapped so back to the way i had it
Do you need get a better battery for this?
No the stock battery is fine. I would definitely recommend a better charger than the one that comes with them though
Just flip the pins in the connector, no need to solder.
It’s easier to solder for me. Hate messing with those tiny pins 😆. Broke a couple before. I usually just flip the transmission now and you don’t have to do anything!
@@2fmrc Even better.
What shocks are those and where can I get them?
K Dizzle they are actually RC4WD Old Man EMU shocks. Sort of hard to find sometimes. I found mine on eBay. I like how they fit on the C10 pretty well though!
Hey man, where I’d you get the truck body from at the start of the video on the right at the back?
That is a body from a 1/20 amt model kit. Here’s the one I used.
www.ebay.com/itm/AMT-1-20-1992-Toyota-4x4-Pickup-Truck-Model-Kit-AMT1082-NEW-/401534455312?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
Hey I was wondering how long this motor will last before I go ahead an purchase it. If you could get back to me with an update that will be great. By the way great video keep up the work.
They definitely seem to last longer than the stock motors. I still have this same motor in this C10. I haven’t replaced a barrage yet in any of mine actually. I do have 7 scx24s so between all of them they don’t get a ton of use as I switch out all the time but in my experience the life of the barrage has been great! Hope this helps and thanks so much for the inspiration. Every time someone tells me to keep it up it makes me wanna push harder 🙏 Let me know if I can help in any other way!
@@2fmrc Thanks for all your help👍
@@2fmrc I went ahead and purchase the barrage motor
@@maverickhanson3499 nice! I think you’ll be happy with it. It’s a bit louder than stock but it’s been a great motor for me so far. Definitely the easiest motor upgrade at the moment.
@@2fmrc That is great. Thanks again for all your help
Wondering how long that motor will lasts with lipo battery
Eric Minuth I’ve put it through some rough stuff and haven’t had any issues. Heck I run 3s on it quite a bit lol
@@2fmrc sweet thanks for the insight. Definitely gonna order one.
@@2fmrc I finally got the new motor in. Made crawling the rocks easier, bigger difference than I thought. 👍
Eric Minuth it’s a big improvement over stock huh? Glad you got it in!
I've had 2 ecx barrages and I've never had a motor go out and I would do 3s a lot and I've fully submerged these motors in muddy water and never had a problem.
Any one who has done this upgrade, did you see an reduction in reverse speed?
I am still on stock motor and my reverse is slower.
Do I use the new pinion gear or old one
Never mind watch the rest of video you answered my question. Great videos
@@AdamTerlaje hey sorry I hadn’t been able to get back to ya sooner! Let me know if you need anything else!!
What motor do u use
jason smith sr rc fun this one works well
www.amainhobbies.com/dynamite-barrage-1-24-motor-pinion-gear-dyns1203/p708441
No before after run test Do Over
This one was just a how to swap vid. Everyone knows it’s 10x better than stock lol. I can do a comparison though. I’ll throw in all 4 different setups I have. Stock,barrage,brushless and Dig and compare them all!
th-cam.com/video/SoWpNq_ZPME/w-d-xo.html try this one on for size lol
Just changed and motor still doesn’t work
why cant you just flip the motor around
You can. Just have to flip the transmission. Or you can just pull the wires out of the connector and flip them.
You can. Just have to flip the transmission. Or you can just pull the wires out of the connector and flip them.
How waterproof is the barrage motor?
It should do pretty well in water. A lot of people break a brushed motor in by dropping it in a glass of water and running it for awhile to get the loose brushes and stuff out of them so brushed motors do fine in the water. The main thing will be your connections and the rest of the truck.
@@2fmrc I just ordered one thanks! I'll have to watch the video again to install it!