Are Kobe and Jordan POP CONTROLLED by PSA? Check out my latest PSA Submission.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
- Here's my latest 35 card submission to PSA consisting of primarily cards from 1980 thru 2003 with a 2018 Ronald Acuna mixed in. The results weren't up to my typical grading standards, but I did get a few gems. Let me know what you think. Are Jordan and Kobe Bryant cards POP controlled?
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Why don’t we all just stop using psa and make another grader the top
I have a crazy gem rate at sgc I wish I could show pics to these guys maken videos to show them psa isn't all that great
@chadcory9690 I, too, use SGC and have been since the beginning
@stevegallagher2199 I always liked the tuxedo slab and how they put the number on the slab like if it's 9/10 . I like that aspect as well
Maybe offering to display subgrades on the back would help. There are Grading companies who offer this service.
Even thats not enough they need to provide a zoom in high definition photo of why they deemed the issue worthy of the sub grade it got.. psa is trash I have a psa 10 ceedee lamb that has a big printline on it that I bought a a 10 off ebay. If I would have graded it that card would have got a 9 and the print line would have bee mentioned why it wasn't a 10..
I remember seeing a PSA 10 George Brett rookie sell for 6 figures. When i saw the back and it's 90/10 centering, i said, "What the fuck are we doing here?" The whole "crack and resub" to get the grades that you want is just completely asinine. It's clear the OCD, the pop control - as well as the inconsistencies - of the grading game have become a game that's unpalatable to play.
I have submission at psa with a mix of 90s & Modern. I'm very concerned that after a couple of my buddies got their submission back, they got blasted. Better believe they pop control jordan & kobe hard! Those Jordans you showed looked flawless for 90s.
Are gradders allowed to collect? Maybe they keep pops down on the cards they own themselves?
I don't submit older cards to PSA anymore. One reason (out of many) I had an immaculate 2nd year Kobe that came back a 9. Someone over there etched a tiny little square on the front surface just to keep it from getting a 10. I'm 99.99% positive
@@tylerdavis5561 I took nice scans of each card prior to sending, but I’m still worried about that scenario. The human element is also worrisome when they are handling the card. If they drop it or nick a corner, how easy is it just say eh that’s an 8 and move along.
@@JayNicksI’m a firm believer that they hire people who have no idea how to handle cards. Or they just don’t care. They’ve damaged many of my cards
I can confirm that believe of yours is a fact. For a couple of years I drove for Uber and I would pick up a lot of PSA employees since I live near there offices. It was normal to pick up guys that would fall asleep on my way to dropping them off after they just finished telling me they worked a double shift. What's even more strange is that it seems that PSA's criteria in hiring graders is that you can't have interest in the hobby as a collector whatsoever. The confused look in their face they gave me after asking them who they p.c? Or even talk about sports just indicated these were the last people you would want handling your prized collectibles. @@BRIANCARRUTHERS
I don't know if I would have sent in 3 of the same cards. I think sending in multiples of the same cards hurts your chances of getting all 3 graded a 10.
That's what they did to my Jack Nicklaus Barratt 1971 card. They damaged one of the corners and gave me an 8 when I was expecting a 9. 9's are worth over $10k. It's annoying. @@JayNicks
I rarely get 9s on jordan and kobe these days so i do feel they are pop controlled. My new method is only submitting if the 9 value is $60+ in value. Good video and good luck on the next submission.
@@JLWStudyRoom that’s a great strategy. Good cut off value for a 9. I have around 20+ Jordans and 12 Kobe’s at PSA now 🙏🏻
@@JayNicks good luck with those!
If you are playing a game and cannot identify the mark, you are the mark.
I find it weird that just about everyone shakes their head at PSA grades, yet PSA is the most respected grading company. If you really think about it, it makes no sense. I’ve been using SGC, just sent off my first Beckett order. Can’t let PSA get to ya, it’s a crock of sh*t.
I like the old stadium club brings back a lot of good memories seeing these old cards. Shame you got the corner damage on your card there
They did you wrong too. Dang.I can't do psa no more. Not consistent. My submissions been good until last one. I had 6 slabs from sgc,beckett, csg, and 2 psa slabs of all 90s jordans.rare ones like first day issues.I cracked them open they were all 8.5s I was doing and experiment well one was a 9 I knew was a 10. Sent 7 cards and each of them came back a 7. I was pissed off. I cracked the slabs with no issues cards was cleaned. I had to crack that whole submission mad. Cards still look clean and are 8 or more. But dang. Took a lost on that. Never again. And I've cracked many slabs before and re submit before and happy most of the time
I feel psa knows cards when graded demand a premium. Therefore, undergrade purposely. At least I can say I have never used PSA . Great cards you have. Seems like they spun a wheel to choose a cards grade for your sub.
I did a submission a few years back of just Jordan and Kobe (100 cards). I got 8 PSA 10s out of all of the cards. Some of the cards I swear they just put a number on it. I had some funny reactions to receiving a 4/5/6. I literally could not see what was wrong, but I am sure I missed something + POP control.
I have gave up on grading 90s stuff. Its like when the look at them they start at an 8 and go from there. Depressing
Man people need to open there eyes with psa that company sucks. Beckett atleast breaks down and shows you why it graded what it did. Honeslty man grading cards for resale is one if the biggest scams ever.... i miss the days when you cracked open a card got the case hit and thats that its value was at its highest fresh from a pack and any card that you protected was mint value 😢
I graded lots of 90's Jordans in my last submission a few months ago - Like you, was very selective. Probably like 20 Jordans and lots of 7's - 9's w/ a 5 thrown in. Only card I somehow got 10's on was his 1996 Topps card (I had like 20 of these, sent in 6 and got 3 10's, 3 9's) - Seems they over analyze the non-white border cards. I graded that same exact Stadium Club - thought would be 9 and it got a 5. I still don't know why.
They probably creased it
I 100% have had the same handling issues. I have had cards come back with a blatant ding that I never would have missed. Were powerless though
What tools do you use to determine centering and prep cards for grading?
I mainly use a centering tool, magnifying glass with a bright LED light, microfiber towel, and I lightly damp alcohol towel for anything chrome to rub away debris that's missed by the microfiber towel.
@@JayNicks where does one obtain a centering tool?
@@JPfreedom try this on amazon: www.amazon.com/Grading-Centering-Magnifying-Sleeves-Holders/dp/B0CGHBWJBB/ref=asc_df_B0CGHBWJBB/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693366139196&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7327062654900730790&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9027696&hvtargid=pla-2245566626829&psc=1&mcid=3d0ab61455c6390a96f5fdb527acc931&gad_source=1
@@JayNicks ill check it out. I lived in Willis briefly before moving to north Houston for 8 years. I'm in longview now but remember Conroe fairly well
I did the same with my Jordan’s. I even used a magnifying glass and sent in my best. I received several 6’s, 7,’s, and 8’s. Centering, Corners, and surface were all solid. Doesn’t make sense and wasted hundreds of dollars.
@@Wolf-rc1tf my exact worry at the moment. My next sub will be a 50/50 of all Jordan and Drexler cards from the same sets and same condition just to see what happens.
I feel like we may have had the same PSA grader on our most recent sub 😊 Do you consider cracking and resubmitting? If so do you send to PSA or give someone else a shot? Thanks for the great channel content 👍🏻
@@gameoncards whoever it was had a really bad day with this sub 😆 how did you fare? I’m not considering cracking any at the moment. But SGC has some good deals on NBA and NFL this month.
@@JayNicks I ended up with a 50% GEM rate but had a much smaller order and only a few 90’s cards. Most of the cards I sub aren’t valuable enough to spend another grading fee but when I do, I try to give another grading company a chance for the 2nd opinion (SGC or TAG). Look forward to seeing your next grading reveal 🤟🏼
That MJ with Harry Caray must have had a poor surface. I have scored tens on that one. The MJ #1 1995 Stadium Club on the other hand is difficult to score well. Maybe the parallel #1 from same set would be less controlled than the base. Definitely protecting the base #1 from too many 10's. PSA went through a slab update and they still appear to mistreat the corners of the cards. They sure are a pain in the ass! I don't actively acquire cards anymore but did grade like 200 cards I held onto from 90-2000. Got a few Kobe 96' 10's but only a couple Jordan's from the era. With MJ, 9's are the new 10.
@@dklauf yes the stadium club card is a difficult grade and I have around a dozen or so and subbed the very best of the best. My first experience with subbing a majority from this era and found out real quick that 10’s are tough to come by. I couldn’t believe the Finest grades. Literally peeled the coating the day I sent them off. One surface on each card had to be near perfect haha.
My friend psa has giving me several make up grades. It wouldn't be that bad if they put in their grading scale we grade curtain cards differently than others.
Looks like a scratch on the bottom right of that 2001 ultra MJ
Yeah PSA is tough I had a sequencial set of cards sent to bgs and psa 9’s from both companies minus one bgs 9.5 I didnt crack…any high end card or franchise character/player all the same. Although, some of the other lower end vintage cards got tens …5-6 out of 40 or so cards. PSA feels like the McDonalds of card grading is what Im realizing anymore. Like I said again I received 9’s from BGS as well minus one 9.5 so I have no idea these cards were beyond clean and centering was flawless which isnt usual for the earlier year cards. This isn’t just sports man believe me when I tell you I have also graded sports as well man. With BGS and PSA and I hate to say it CGC has been the most honest overall but payouts dont always equate to more money but typically your receiving more 10’s overall. Cleaning the cards and cracking is unfortunately a necessity would be shooting your own foot to sell unless they were dirt cheap.
I Most definitely think PSA is pop controlling Jordan and Kobe. I also think they are starting to do the same thing with Brady and Mahomes after getting some of them back earlier in the year
Thats why grade with becket so no guessing.
Yep, at least you mainly get back what you expect and no damaged cards.
of course they need to protect their collection value
Why not choose a different grading company? It seems SGC reputation is MUCH better than PSA these days?
Resale acceptance and matching your other cards
They are I had a Kobe topps rookie should have got a 9 8 at minimum they gave it a 6
Those cards and others are definitely on pop control
Anything 90s and lower it’s almost impossible to get 10s
All jordans ,except for a few, have a high grade of 9. That's my theory.
It's crazy, for me they're all 10, i mean who check his card with a microscope, it's ridiculous
When you think about it this whole PSA thing is a scam, for the price of grade submission they should at least explain why they give a specific grade, what and where the issue is. They should even grade the graders. We should know who did the grading, hos experience, how many gradings he did before that. I mean for PSA it's an insanely good business, easy money for them, i just don't get it
@@mokimokiman 100%
70% being Correct may mean your bad at some types. Your obviously missing something. But letting PSA give a grade but not tell you why? Gives them upper hand.
This type of video scares me when I think about doing my first PSA submission.PSA scares me that it would be just a waste of money.Since it is a human element you have to be correct about the employee thought at the time he or she is grading. How monantious can the job get?
Go to SGC
For PSA pop control players (Jordans, Bradys, Kobes, Jeters, Griffeys) ...I send to TAG
Everything cant be a 10 even though i have old psa 10’s that are 70/30 they were pretty easy on cards in the past i heard they had to tighten up cause sgc 9’s 10’s present so much better in certain cases
I dunno how u feal about sgc but that harper dimes all day at sgc . People really need to start switching to other gradeing companys psa has been terrible lately costing the collectors money
And this is why I use SGC because I feel so so many people are going to start getting mad at PSA then the value is going to be lower and also PSA is only good if you get a 10 anything below that everybody wants to consider it a raw card, which is bullshit alsobut also the value of an SGC nine versus a PSA nine is pretty much the same ballpark
How are your results with SGC?
@@JPfreedom I’ve been having pretty good luck with them and I actually thought I would get more tens than I have but I think they grade pretty fair I would say so I can’t complain
PSA is so inconsistent. Maybe a good video will be a crack and resub.
@@derekbaker2665 definitely considering it. SGC has an awesome deal on NBA cards this month.
Sgc is about the Kmart of grading service's
@justind4742 why do you say SGC is about to be KMART?
next time send the MCGradys in separate orders instead of all together cause PSA will do nonsense like they did with you!! i don't submit to PSA but i do buy PSA cards already graded, i use SGC which is not to far off from PSA..
@@smbmostfamous1432 I’m thinking of going with an all Jordan/Drexler sub with everything being from the same year/set/condition.
Won't send in to psa with their population control. And cards with lower gem rate are a third the price using bgs so I guess I keep my cards ungraded??
grading in the first place 😂😂😂
PSA is such a scam
PSA are terrible graders and always have been. It's only since Covid they became popular and that's coz BGS couldn't keep up with the influx and even up'd their costs and that's where PSA jumped in and took over.
They do have to stop giving out 10s so easy. They dish out more 10s than McDonalds do happy meals.
Due to their bad grading and high pop counts they are gona lower the future value. The mark will flip on them. And i think they know that which is why they are now soon to be adding sub grades. (Of course will be an added charge or up price in costs)...again could be costly for them.
The fact they already have upcharges depending on value once slabbed is ridiculous for the hobby.
BGS and SGC better graders by far and JSA slabs coming soon! Get on.
Dont use psa
only two 10😂😂😂
You got robbed. Switch to sgc.
yes so stop using psa they are bent AF
PSA sucks.
You got robbed. Switch to sgc.