History of Hypermodern Openings in Chess: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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  • @steven99456
    @steven99456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    This reminds me of the game Frank Lee vs. Ree Diculous in the 1953 Zurich Supertournament

    • @xwngdrvr
      @xwngdrvr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      S. Picious was the arbiter.

    • @flynncook7989
      @flynncook7989 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      H. Orable annotated

    • @xwngdrvr
      @xwngdrvr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@flynncook7989 I recognize you. We served together in the Punic Wars.

    • @PatchworkPS
      @PatchworkPS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      If you edit your comment to say "Reid Iculous" i'll delete mine

    • @mmmbellygirls
      @mmmbellygirls 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh! That's the game with the famous Diculous blunder 9.f6??

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    Dissappointed to learn after all this time that the Grunfeld Defence wasn't named after Grandmaster Defence.

    • @jaasonjones4419
      @jaasonjones4419 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait until you hear who the Bongcloud opening was named after...

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@jaasonjones4419 Grandmaster Opening?

    • @jaasonjones4419
      @jaasonjones4419 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@beeble2003 I'm not familiar with the works of mister Grandmaster

  • @jasmint6703
    @jasmint6703 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    "I may be old and bad but I'm up a piece." Ben Finegold

  • @smott7730
    @smott7730 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Fun fact: Hypermodern Openings are named after Sir Lionel Hypermodern, who was also inventor of the microwave.

    • @xwngdrvr
      @xwngdrvr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He invented Global Warming.

  • @xwngdrvr
    @xwngdrvr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Rumor has it the Amish tend to frown on this type of opening. If you dont like the position at 13:31 you're Hippo Critical.

  • @matthewpaul985
    @matthewpaul985 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really enjoyed this video. Thank you.

  • @Iearnwithme
    @Iearnwithme 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really good lecture! Thanks for making these :))

  • @ДенисЮденков-ь5ж
    @ДенисЮденков-ь5ж 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please, make part 2!

  • @angrygary91298
    @angrygary91298 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    13:36 its a burn 🔥

    • @jire9831
      @jire9831 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kramling catching strays.

  • @napoleonbonaparte7692
    @napoleonbonaparte7692 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh my i cant explain the joy when i seen gm finegold playing the hippo in a world tournament, it gives me a sense of legitimacy with my own journey through chess so far. Particularly playing the hippo and nimzo/larsens openings

  • @atwarwithdust
    @atwarwithdust 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    11:07 We should call that fork a "knork", combining a knife and fork.

  • @sachatostevin6435
    @sachatostevin6435 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oh man... that dig at Anna and The Cow!

  • @Evilanious
    @Evilanious 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The cow is not the hippo. It is a significantly more passive and suspicious setup where the knights are moved to b3 and g3, the center isn't influenced at all, and the bishops cry.

  • @tarnumj7319
    @tarnumj7319 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    At 9:45 Ben didn't mention what would happen if black played Rxe3. I think that would be followed by fxe3, Qxd1, Ne6. Threatening Qg7 mate and black's queen, and black has no good checks.

    • @redgit9905
      @redgit9905 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah i noticed that too

  • @tutucox
    @tutucox 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Hypermodern chess is the best , you can be the cool kid and be bad at the same time

  • @gcubegaming2756
    @gcubegaming2756 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    It's nice to see a lecture uploaded once in a while which wasn't recorded multiple years prior...

    • @isaacbragg-gardiner2456
      @isaacbragg-gardiner2456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Are they typically? I feel like most of his videos are recent. Obviously 5 minutes with Ben is recent if nothing else

    • @eoin6862
      @eoin6862 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both. Some are from a few years ago and some only a couple of weeks ago

    • @aakashbasu3219
      @aakashbasu3219 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Old videos are due to channel consolidation, usually they are vids from Atlanta chess club

  • @cardanoshield1326
    @cardanoshield1326 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very educational video, thank you!!

  • @douglaslarosa8782
    @douglaslarosa8782 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As soon as I saw the lecture title, I was Réti to watch and comment it 🤓

  • @sergioaguis
    @sergioaguis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you to the sponsors ❤️
    Thank you Ben for the joy

  • @jimmyballer7047
    @jimmyballer7047 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Ben! You only went 5 minutes before making a move on the board this time. What a wonderful appetizer!

  • @slimmamba7208
    @slimmamba7208 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid analysis, clear explanations. Second only to Fabi.

  • @axeldenivet8421
    @axeldenivet8421 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Merci Ben

  • @cho4d
    @cho4d 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this style of chess. Reject main line theory. Embrace weirdness and chaos.

  • @BawzGames
    @BawzGames 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wish you all the best!

  • @stbauch1
    @stbauch1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a very hypermodern lecture!

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hypermodernism should be seen as a new way to look at chess, seeing it in terms of large scale structures and long term plans. While it doesn't work to ONLY think in these ways, it eventually was understood as a way to look for good moves; hypermodernism would suggest a move that should be looked at from a strategic perspective, and then it would be further analyzed tactically. This fusion was largely achieved by the interwar Russian/Soviet players including Alekhine, Botvinnik, Boleslavsky, and Bogolubow. They laid the foundation for the dominance of post-war Soviet chess and how the game would evolve right up to the turn of the 21st century, when computers changed things almost back to the way they were in classical chess, in their method of long precise calculation without any thought to positional ideas. Current players largely follow the computer's lead, leading to the decline of hypermodern ideas. With the discovery of the Berlin defense to the Ruy Lopez, classical 1. e4 openings returned with a vengeance.

    • @honeychurchgipsy6
      @honeychurchgipsy6 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @kmarasin - thank you for your interesting and informative comment.

  • @Cobalt-Jester
    @Cobalt-Jester 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found my old travel computer chess machine. I was about 11 years old and it was my step granddad's... I learned how to play on that little machine.
    Because it was programmed in the early 80s with game variets of the time, it's really easy to beat on the highest level by playing the modern varients.

  • @shakohoto7901
    @shakohoto7901 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seirawan's birthday was Yasserday

  • @werderlebenslang4576
    @werderlebenslang4576 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Isn't the cow opening an invention of Anna Cramling? She is known for playing chess isn't she? Or does Ben mean she is known for streaming chess and not a professional chess player in the classical sense?

    • @sachatostevin6435
      @sachatostevin6435 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think he was just joking. I'm pretty sure they all respect eachother as professional chess-streamers, as they all collectively keep the subject interesting/popular, and together they increase eachothers views.

    • @derhonk6270
      @derhonk6270 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sachatostevin6435Ben is never joking, how dare you!?

    • @opiedrums
      @opiedrums 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea sounded like a slight to me. He just sounds bitter. I dont think she invented it but maybe made it popular.

    • @honeychurchgipsy6
      @honeychurchgipsy6 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@opiedrums - I think she did invent it. I watched the video where she says that it had never been played before (or at least was not in any databases of games).
      Of course, if you saw some of the games I play with my 88 year old step dad it might lead you to believe the cow (or worse, much worse) has definitely been played.

    • @opiedrums
      @opiedrums 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @honeychurchgipsy6 Bens literally playing it here back in the 90s. Again, I think she just made it popular and called it the cow.

  • @pauldow1648
    @pauldow1648 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hyper modern attack from flank only if opponent place pawns and pieces in the center

  • @skyline.....
    @skyline..... 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i found i play better on the screen than over the board ,now i just need to try on the board

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ironically, Yasser Seirawan wrote the forward to my copy of My System, purchased in the late 90s.

  • @pulpsqwheeze7091
    @pulpsqwheeze7091 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Go Hippopota-Ben!

  • @sanguine5108
    @sanguine5108 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    some crazy comment

    • @mario97br
      @mario97br 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can oftentimes sacrifice your d pawn in the advanced French in order to pin the knight with your bishop to the queen on b6 and create counterplay to the king on the queenside as white.

  • @raskalnekov
    @raskalnekov 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ben nearly gave me an existential crisis once I realized I'll need a new favorite Beatles song at 64

  • @compassionate_badger
    @compassionate_badger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    happy belated birthday yasser :)

  • @jefftaylor1186
    @jefftaylor1186 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Invented by Aaron “Hank” Nimzo during the Spanish-American War

  • @JudgeHolden13
    @JudgeHolden13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are 999 repeats of hyper moderns in this video

  • @mrcleanisin
    @mrcleanisin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you are analyzing games based on their openings and you announce one side made a blunder how do you expect us to know if the opening is good or not?

    • @f.d.3289
      @f.d.3289 หลายเดือนก่อน

      go watch levy, he'll tell you XD

  • @OliverRainer-f6f
    @OliverRainer-f6f 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    it's funny that you don't even mention the central themes of the hypermodern chess school, e.g. blockade and overprotection, as explained by Nimzo in his book in detail. That's what his entire "my system" is all about. You don't just give your opponent the center and that's it. You have to try to blockade these pawns and overprotect the squares before the pawns. As a matter of fact, you use them as shields for your pieces. It's not just about "fianchettoing the bishops and playing on the side". That's a far too simplistic way of explaining hypermodern. There's a famous game which highlights these principles perfectly, I can't remember at the moment against who, wasn't it even his arch nemesis Tarrasch? Nimzo crushed him by applying exactly those principles. Although you do generally the best lectures of all chess youtubers, this one's missing the mark a bit as it diminshes hypermodern to just "playing on the side". Simplification is fine, but taken too far it creates a false impression of what it actually is that you're trying to explain, if I was Eric, I'd be a bit disappointed, but as you admitted yourself, "Mein System" wasn't exactly your thing, so maybe worth reading it once more and then you could even demonstrate that Nimzo game in one of your next episodes.

    • @zacharyheflin6794
      @zacharyheflin6794 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said

    • @sachatostevin6435
      @sachatostevin6435 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he pretty much explained why - cos he read the book but found it boring, and then admitted that it might have been cos he was too young at the time.

    • @OliverRainer-f6f
      @OliverRainer-f6f 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sachatostevin6435 so what? That doesn't justify to give a lecture on hypermodern without even explaining hypermodern. (except for "playing on the side") The truth hurts! ;-)

  • @lordofutub
    @lordofutub 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whole damn lecture about hypermodernism, no modern defense 💀💀💀

  • @joefawcett2191
    @joefawcett2191 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i often get told im playing the reti... nice to know he was a great player 😅🤣

  • @heyumnew1401
    @heyumnew1401 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grünfeld looking like inspector lunge with glasses 💀

  • @peace_in1move
    @peace_in1move 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Truth liberates ✨️💋

  • @Kommaer
    @Kommaer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First I played flank openings most of all. After million blunders Now I am crushing the center with gambits and able to beat up to 1500 in daily with 100+ games opened. And it is my 10th month in chess journey! Your content is what I love the most, GM Benjamin Finegold!

  • @erikfurudi975
    @erikfurudi975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fischer looked super old in his 60s, the giant beard

  • @calebparks8318
    @calebparks8318 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    22:18 Except for those of us watching on TH-cam.

  • @lush1us
    @lush1us 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a beginner, trying to ask chatGPT what's 'fee and keto' in chess 😂😂😂 (it got it right🎉)

  • @alhfgsp
    @alhfgsp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like to play hypermodern with black but classical with white

  • @lqtmn
    @lqtmn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like + comment for the algorithm etc. Mostly etc.

  • @timothymiller806
    @timothymiller806 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This reminds me of Rufus vs Doofas 1869… rawr!!

  • @derhonk6270
    @derhonk6270 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a way to fight 1. e4 as black in a hypermodern way, that is well respected among top grandmasters? The Alekhine and the Pirc are not really. You might call the Sicilian dragon hypermodern, but it is not well respected either. Would you consider a Sicilian Najdorf or a Sveshnikov/Rossolimo a hypermodern opening?

    • @ludology7757
      @ludology7757 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn't. Matter what grandmasters play unless you are one, just play around with different openings till you find one you like😂

    • @derhonk6270
      @derhonk6270 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ludology7757 Who do you think you are to judge what matters to me? I wanted to know, I am curious, so it matters to me. Why are you so rudely disregarding my curiosity?
      Of course, I will never need this kind of information to prepare against a Super-GM (and even if so, this would be a weird place to get my information from anyway), but that has not been the question...

    • @msye
      @msye 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think you can try the Nimzowitsch Defense (1.e4 Nc6). Carlsen used to play it when he doesnt want to get into home prep.
      If white plays d4 you continue with d5 and if white takes then you get what you wanted like in grunfeld defense. But if they push the pawn you can play Bf5 and transpose it into French defense where your light squared bishop is not sitting on c8
      I checked games of Nimzowitsch. He generally plays the Nimzowitsch Defense, French Defense or Caro Kann against e4.
      You can play the Hippo but i cant say its well respected by top gms

    • @f.d.3289
      @f.d.3289 หลายเดือนก่อน

      or, as ben repeatedly pointed out, fianchetto your bishop. 1.e4 g6, the so-called modern defense. and of course the King's Indian, although that's a world of its own.

  • @SunPresager
    @SunPresager 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Iam fifth one

  • @sorpresasfelicidad8314
    @sorpresasfelicidad8314 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Benst by test.

  • @zahirhamdard2213
    @zahirhamdard2213 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, i can't beat your chess bot😢

    • @skyline.....
      @skyline..... 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      get a bigger stick 👀

  • @duncanglen3452
    @duncanglen3452 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get Ben a Perrier ffs

  • @zacharyheflin6794
    @zacharyheflin6794 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And you can tell this is a hyper modern recorded lecture due to Ben’s old man lip smacking 😂.
    Jokes aside though I hope you see a doctor once in a while, I’m probably overthinking this but it as someone who is trained to observe and report signs & symptoms my first thought it’s a Neurological disorder & or a progressive degenerative disease.
    I’m not a doctor and my college credits amount to nothing as the school I attended lost it’s accreditation.

    • @spyroninja
      @spyroninja 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or maybe talking non stop for 40 minutes

  • @carneades4409
    @carneades4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Osgood is not good? Very suspicious.

    • @carneades4409
      @carneades4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess there's good and there's Osgood. That's Osgood.

  • @Raphaeljames1776
    @Raphaeljames1776 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The amount of saliva in your mouth must be insane in the amount you’re smacking and slurping your spit in your mouth when you talk it’s so hard to listen to