Seriously. If the VA would have said "The main character has lost touch with her family roots and that's why she's making obvious mistake when she talks spanish" and boom! All the critics would have died down because it wasn’t much at first, just some point a bit icky.
Especially if they had an episode dedicated to it later on. Maybe having the family travel to Mexico and feeling stupid for not being able to speak Spanish like native speakers.
I don't even know why she didn't say that to begin with?? Like in the show there's even a future episode where the characters recap all the songs of the show so far and Tater's cousins correct her by saying its "oigan primos" not "oye primos". That episode was recorded before the intro released so.. why couldn't she just say that?
That voice actor destroyed an entire show that the creator probably was really passionate about, as well as all the animation and VA jobs that were attached to it. I hope she's proud that she got to say her very important piece at the expense of other people's jobs and peace. Seriously, the self-centeredness that access to social media has given people is insane.
I'm still confused of what even was the point the voice actress was trying to make. If Spanish isn't a true Latin America language than what the hell are the characters supposed to speak? Aztec language? Is this what she means by saying they aren't Native Americans?
Paraguay is the only Latin American country that I know where a native language is still used officially, I'm talking about Guaraní. You can hear lots of Paraguayans talk in both Spanish and Guaraní
a descendent of the language of the aztecs is still spoken today, but yeah idk what she was trying to say either. yes spanish is originally a colonial language, but despite that it definitely is part of the culture of latin america and has been for centuries by now. if she was actually native from a latino country then yeah, that would be fair, but as far as i know she isn’t so idek
"Look, it's not my fault we're not using the correct language/grammar because the language we're using was used by bad people. So you shouldn't care that we're not using it correctly."
I think the moment that sealed Primos’ fate is the fact that the show uses the incorrect version of Primos in the theme song and when pointing them out, the show’s VA acted like the people pointing out legitimate incorrect Spanish were trying to troll her. It’s like people are so worried about protecting their political egos they don’t even register when they make a major mistakes in representation, especially when it’s not even their culture. 💀
This is literally the big issue. People made being politically correct their whole personality so if someone even implies that theyre misusing some term/phrase/ misrepresenting a culture, they take it as a personal attack and refuse to grow because if theyre wrong then theyre immoral and theyre perfect so its just trolls criticizing
Funnily enough the broken spanish isnt even that bad on itself. Is so obviously wrong because is meant to characterize the protag as someone lost with her roots (is even a running gag that she gets corrected in the leaked episodes) But the Va decided to be stupid and NOW is ok because Colonizers or some shit. And now the show is 6 feet under
Wanna know the funny thing? "Oye primos" sounds EXACTLY like how "hey cousins" would get translated by google translate. ITS ALMOST AS IF THEY JUST WENT ON GOOGLE AND LOOKED FOR THE TRANSLATION *HOW DO YOU WRITE, SCORE, ANIMATE AND PUBLISH A SONG WITH SUCH A GLARING FUCKING MISTAKE*
Tbh I blame the VA for all of this. While Earthquake heights can be rather tonedeaf, other things like the broken spanish or the "steriotypical" names can be easily explained (the protag is like 12 and had nevet spoken the language and those are still fucking names) BUT NOOOOO. This fucking VA with an overblown superiority complex had to come to polarize everyone into hating the show more than they should, because obviously reading a few lines makes you automatically superior, dont they🫠
@@SaiyanGamer95 “Tornado alley” is more of a nickname for a certain region in the US where there’s a higher risk of tornados- I had to learn which states make it up when I was in school (Can’t remember, tho). IMO kinda different from if they named a specific town with a high tornado risk or lots of earthquakes something like that, but I see what you’re getting at
@@marcoa.2912 I know. Drinking alcohol is not safe period, even if it has pineapple ice cream on it... Wait, what kind of terremoto are we talking about? Dearly, someone from Chile/earthquake country.
I actually like them! I also just genuinely like more “weird” and “ugly” designs like smiling friends for example Edit: For those saying it doesn’t have human character what about Mr. Boss he is human and looks very ugly and horrifying lol
The funniest thing was the time the main character VA called spanish a "non-latin language" because it was imposed by the conquistadors. While speaking a PERFECT ENGLISH.
AND IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE BEACUSE LATINOS ARE CALLED LIKE THAT BEACAUSE THEY SPEAK A LENGUAGE DERIVEDED FROM *LATIN*, SO SAYING IT IS A NON-LATIN (talking about a group of people) LEANGUAGE DOES NOT MAKE SENSE
Alex hirsch is political wannbe hero and a political tool grifter who just wants attention cause his career down the drain as well irrelevant so he tries to hop on political issues on social media so he can grift off of it so he can be relevant again...
@@DORAisD34D Disney panders to the gays and in general leftists. Unless Disney has a full on original story where someone is explicitly gay without it being cancelled the next season (cough cough owl house) I'm calling what they do pandering
Especially when this was the show that was supposed to come in after the owl house was canceled, the series that was well-recieved before it got canceled because it had an LGBT character in it
The part that boils my blood is when she talks about language, how tf is their faul that they speak spanish and what do you spect them to do? travel in time? unlearn spanish?
@@normalhuman9878is even better than ironic! Because the Spanish conquistadors had descendants with the natives and while they used them as forceful manual labor, they didn't purge them as the English conquistadors did.
And the point is that, while it is true we were forced to learn Spanish, we made the language OUR OWN. Mexican Spanish isn't the same as the one in Argentina or Chile, they each have unique words or meanings depending on the place. And some of the pre-Spanish languages are still up and about in some countries, like Quechua in Peru. We made our own culture out of our old traditions and the new ones, so idk what the heck she was going on about Spanish not being a language or whatever (And the fact that she talks in English lol)
At least you acknowledge your Mexican heritage. Unlike the creator who only uses their jewish surname and clearly views her mexican family members as annoying outsiders which is exactly why the show ended up the way that it did.
@@Max25670 Thanks, but I'm honestly not very familiar with Mexican culture, I grew up in a pretty Americanized environment and my Spanish isn't very good. I try my best to acknowledge my culture, when I can.
Remember Egypt suing Netflix for that awful Cleopatra “documentary”, I say Spain and every Latin American country should do the same against Disney for butchering the Spanish language!
I'm surprised the yellow sky criticism didn't get mentioned here. It's an old stereotype to represent Mexico by using yellow, but the show is supposed to take place in America.
I really don't think the backlash would've been as intense IF the VA hadn't opened her trap and caused it to hit a whole other level of shitstorm. Yeah,there probably would've been some backlash based on it's similarities to Loud House and Casagrandes and maybe issues with the representation but the VA just added fuel to the fire and sat back to watch it to burn. I personally took a step back and just watched the fire rage
I genuinely don't understand how the show is aesthetically racist. Ugly kids exist. I'm from Latin America and I've seen kids that look like that in real life. I just don't understand where this sentiment comes from. Ugly kids = racism ??? Stop using the term so loosely
My thing is: ok, spanish is a language forced on indigenous communities by way of Spanish conquistadors. Unless you strive to learn or revitalize an indigenous language instead: you're just touting personal ignorance. Regardless of the origin, its a lingua franca for latin american countries which means people speak it _constantly_ . Beyond that, indigenous languages have mixed with Spanish to create regional dialects, creoles, pigeon languages that are unique to their areas and speak to the resilience of indigenous cultures. You erase all of that when you just plug your ears and go "spanish bad".
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger Not many speak or want to speak native languages. Quechua does not work in the real world as much as Spanish does, same with Guaraní or Nahuatl. It is spoken, you can learn and find people to speak but go to a job and you probably be better learning English instead.
@fixedfunshow this is due to the stigma and history of indigenous' people in Latin American countries seen as lesser in society Albeit there is the opposite of this extreme where if one speaks even a lick of Spanish they're punished for not speaking an indigenous language but who am I to judge
I feel so bad for the creator I went through her social media and some interviews and she seems genuine. She is a mexican american, therefore she wouldnt have the same experiences that I would've have as a Mexican kid, growing and living in Mexico. Her perspective is totally valid... but that VA had to open her smug mouth and taint the show's reputation before it even came out. If this show gets cancelled, I hope she still thrives in the industry, she doesnt deserve all this backlash
Also as someone from L.A., 'earthquake heights' is much more a crack at the freaking actual city of L.A. and the state of Cali... we get a LOT of quakes... also rofl this guy sounds nuts about the shoes.
I'll be honest, I was part of the wave of people who heard that it was the CREATOR herself who said those things, so I was all "SCREW THE CREATOR" for a while. Then I found out, oh wait no, it's the VA who said those things. And going further down that rabbit hole after I found that out, I realized hey the creator doesn't seem so bad. I do think she was unfarily caught in the crossfire of all this. I think she really did intend to make a genuine show that captured her childhood experiences but was ruined before she could ever launch it by the very VA voicing her main character. A sad outcome for sure.
@@MandiTheMerrow Exactly! "Earthquake Heights" is far, FAR more reflective of the way Americans tend to joke about, and even be dismissive of, natural disasters. I'm from Kansas and my boyfriend's mother has a bumper sticker on her car that says "TORNADO WATCH" with an image of a man sitting back in a lawn chair. And in Florida, during a hurricane, a group of weeaboos Naruto-ran in Category 5 winds. It's a USA thing that didn't really translate well to viewers outside the USA.
I think people need to work on not trying to find random people to blame and harass and just focus on critiquing the show because how the hell did the phineas and ferb creator get involved 😭
Bro exactly! It’s mainly because it’s fun for people to do so. It’s entertaining to watch drama and be a part of it as long as it doesn’t affect your life. So people will take a normal amount of criticism and blow it out of proportion involving people that have nothing to do with it
Yeah! But only for Miguel. Here in Hispanic America pretty much no one sees Miles as a latin represent, but rather as just as an African-American, and I mean his color, he's only lived in America and doesn't even speak good Spanish
@drack1229 Uh, Mile's can still be represented as a Latino, too. Even his own VA claims that he's meant to be the bridge between both cultures. Only difference is that Spider-man Miles takes after his father's influence while PROWLER Miles takes after Rio because of his afro-latino accent heard at the end of Across the Spiderverse.
I thought so too but I have a cousin and a brother who have the same name. Both boys are named after my grandfather. Is it lazy? Yes, but not out of the ordinary
Nothing wrong with putting your life expirience and creating art. We live in a world with a lot of superhero movies does this mean we have no need for more?
I disagree. If anything, it encouraged me and my cousins to rewatch good Latino media like Mucha Lucha and The Book Of Life. The existence of Primos can be used as a way to push people to watch good shows and movies that do representation right.
@@melvinm.261I mean, as a Latino myself.....an orange has not a lot to do with an apple. Sure all 3 have to do with Latino culture but Mucha Lucha and the Book of Life have to do with Mexicans and Primos with Mexican-Americans, so the experiences will be different just by that alone😅 Not all mexicans have the same experiences
God, you can tell that VA was on some sort of high at that point. I don't blame them, she nailed a main character role in a Disney animated tv show, that's almost set for life territory in your career, but then she pretty much immediately tarnished that representation.
Being the main VA of a long running series for Disney is a dream come true. Too bad she fucked it up herself and now it would be a miracle if this show gets a second season.
Coming from a Mexican/Bolivian American, I think what makes the video even funnier besides the fact that she’s speaking in English is that I know she doesn’t even know the names of the native languages she pretends to be in tune with. Like they still exist and for the most part are easy to learn if you are genuinely interested, a large part of the Quechuas were wiped out due to colonizers and yet I still learned the language despite being in the exact same situation growing up as her. 😂
I hated that people mistake the VA for the creator of the show. The show clearly had good intentions with a few problems that was easily fixable. Imagine having your show axed bc your lead VA couldn’t keep her mouth shut. She should be fired for that
As a Mexican born in Mexico "primos" feels like it represents what many Mexicans and other Latinos are tired of seeing, many do not like stories of Latinos born in the USA because at the end of day those stories will never represent us. I don't know how to explain it but it feels stereotypical and sanitized, the poorly spoken spanish and the stereotype of the Latin family who always are there for eachother. Returning to the sanitized representation, I feel like Mexico it's just a difficult country to adapt to in a certain way, our culture is bloody, beautiful, painful and funny,terrible and great things happen at the same time here and that feeling it's just hard to capture. (Idk The only movie I have seen that at least represents my vision of Mexico is a mexican movie called "Museo" you should see it)
I do agree with you on that and I’m a Mexican who is a first generation of my family to be born in the US. Every time there is a show about Latinos living in a small house in LA where there’s like 20 of them crammed inside just annoys me. It is true that some families have that but it doesn’t mean we’re all together or happy about it like they are in the show. Most of the time you just have no choice because of your financial state or still having to wait on getting your papers and it’s better to stay with family than be on the streets. There’s a lot of challenges which I grew up experiencing and knowing them when I was in a house like that (and NOT in LA where the family always lives at for some reason ) not to mention how it’s so stereotypical to have the kids not know proper Spanish when there’s plenty of families who do teach their kids to speak Spanish and do it all day at home. It’s just lazy writing that this show does like all the rest that have aired before it.
I’m waiting for a show that represents Latinos and Hispanics born in Asian and European countries and as a Filipino-Mexican myself, there’s barely even representation of Asian Latinos and Asian Hispanics and its disappointing to say the least. My great-great grandfather, who was a Catholic priest, arrived at the Philippines from Mexico during the time of Spanish occupation around 18-19th century-ish. And I agree, I always see representations of Latinos born in USA more than I see representations of Latinos and Hispanics born in Asian or European countries. Like we need a representation of the Filipino-Mexican community and/or the Hispanic community in Germany, France, or Italy.
@@cosm1cCa5Tperwhat is it like being an asian latino??? i’ve never met one (that i know of, at least) despite running an asian club at my college. even african-asians are rare to see
@@MWL_TTK Latino usually refers to someone who lives in Latin America and Hispanic to someone who speaks Spanish, for example a person from Spain is Hispanic but not Latino because Spain is in Europe.
Seeing now that Primos is one year old, not even officially released, and still getting talked about how insane it is is actually insane. I’ve actually known about Primos long before its theme song even got shown to the public. I went to a class for arts and they brought in a worker at Disney who made both backgrounds and prop designs in animation, she worked for The Casagrandes and showed us some of the examples she made in the show like vehicles and buildings and even some concepts for backgrounds. She was so cool and showed us how we can build a portfolio and tips in the animation industry, it was great! But she also told us that she would be working on the upcoming animated show Primos, which NONE of us knew about. She was able to give very brief information on it and what she said made it sound like a cute passion project for the Hispanic community and discovering who you are as an individual in this little world. I’m Mexican-American and I really thought it was gonna be nice since she sounded really excited about it! Sadly once it came out… yeah, I agree with the backlash
i genuinely think everyone who helped draw and write for the show were passionate about the project and wanted to make something special for mexican american kids, but their crappy choices in the show's intro and especially their PR response sealed the show's fate, it's going to be known forever as a bad show, even if they released it and it turned out to be the best kids show ever. the whole situation is very crummy
Prismo is a rare example where everyone came together to put this show down for being so bad and criticize the VA for their tone-deaf response. Disney really pulled an L on this.
But the creator did nothing tho? In the bible she says the broken spanish was intencional, as to make the protag look lost in touch with her cousins If someone is actually tonedeaf, is the fucking VA😂 She literally ruined everything
Honestly, I'm very sorry to the creator and all talented people who worked on the show. I can imagine that getting to work on your own Disney show is a dream for many people in the industry. Then again, it's baffling to me how non of those people cared to fix or even notice any of those issues while the show was being made
Tbh a shame since the episodes are decent and it actually adresses a lot of the critisims (like the running gag of the protag getting corrected for the "Oye primos" since its obviously incorrect) but sadly, the Va made things 100 times worse😅
And also the one who started it all: Encanto. When a bunch of people bashed an artist because of their Encanto fanart and latinos got angry at gringos for that and invented the #shutupgringo hashtag on twitter.
Wait until the next Disney cartoon being about a brazilian family that loves to dance samba, play soccer all day and eat feijoada, while having to avoid getting shot by stray bullets from police shootouts
@@xcellentcreations3312CSA was a confederation of slave states in the Southern US, it existed during 1861-1865, Florida, Texas, North and South Carolina and Virginia were some of the major states
Combined Syndicates of America, from HoI4 (a WW2 strategy game) mod KaiserReich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg (a World where Germans won WW1). They are a side in Second American Civil War representing the Leftists.
The toddler character wasn’t the only kid with a problematic name. The unibrow gremlin is called Chacha, which here in Mexico is a despective term levied against house maids. There’s also the ongoing issue that yet again, the unibrow character is shown to be a gross, unruly creature instead of anything else, if the leaked episodes are any indication. American media is obsessed with unibrows as an ugly trait, and even with the sudden rise in interest in foreign media, there’s a concerned effort to ignore the plight and activism of people with this features; in this case specifically, ignoring Frida Khalo’s political statement about Latin American women and AFAB people with unibrows and hairy bodies. It’s kind of baffling that there’s so many tone-deaf decisions in this show considering how sanitized Disney likes to operate as a brand. Where were the Mexican and Latino sensitivity staff? How did no one catch stuff like “Terremoto Heights” and the fact that the show features a constant yellowish sky..?
Yet Squilliam Fancyson from Spongebob is viewed by everyone in the show & by the viewers as the most handsome & successful character in the series(the exact opposite of Squidward) and people love his unibrow. Just like how we call the Fat Controller from Thomas the Tank Engine by his real name "Sir Topham Hatt" even though the Fat Controller is a title of importance, not an insult(even though fat has been used on other characters as an insult, but that's beside the point.), yet Rolly in 101 Dalmatians the Series & Manny from Ice Age are both called fat AS an insult by other characters. Wow, Wilbert Awdry was in a way right about us Americans, we are hypocrites.
Just as a bit of perspective to how "disgusting" extra hair is seen in American culture, I was made fun of for (and almost immediately started plucking) my unibrow at 9 fcking years old💀 I'm white too, it's just marketed as "unhygienic" unfortunately
Terremoto heights comparisons: 9/11 city, USA Tsunami town, Japan Bushfire valley, Australia Holocaust city, Germany Putin town, Ukraine Potato famine city, Ireland Genocide heights, Rwanda (or any other affected place) Explosion city, Iraq Massacre region, Cambodia ISIS valley, Syria COVID 19 region, China British Raj town, India Global warming city, Maldives Israel and Palestine having places named after each other Starvation heights, Ethiopia Kim Jong town, *south* Korea Missile Crisis city, Cuba Hitler valley, Poland Inflation region, Zimbabwe Chemical explosion city, Lebanon I’m sure others will come up with more
As native mexican I always thought the Primos hate was way overblow, and given Natasha's previous work on South Park, I took with humor the whole Terremoto Heights and hung sneakers (those are everywhere here, the drug selling signal completely lost meaning) but Myrna's altered perception of reality just fucked up the entre thing.
The stupid tune of this show had been stuck in my brain for months after. I didn't even remember the lyrics but the rhythm of it stayed in my mind for literally no reason.
4:45 I think with the shoes, it's pretty easy to sneak things into the background art. That's how the Simpsons writers got away with a lot of sign gags (like Stoner's Pot Palace).
the shoes can also represent whole bunch of other things, sometimes it represents those who just graduated highschool, back in auckland newzealand there was a fuckload of those shoes in my general area growing up, its not just a latino thing, more of a thing people who live in a rural area do
Yeah, every other thing this show is criticized for honestly feels fine to me. People are saying it’s Mexican stereotypes but I see tons of things like this in real life.
@@HaiAmbityea I agree, the shoes hanging on the line, the yellowish sky and the overcrowded houses with kids running around feel nostalgic. Even the broken Spanish feels normal
The way they could have easily fixed like half of the mistakes in the show or even the intro itself is generally crazy. But, the VA had to ruin it even more. You know, this show is probably going to become lost media at this point.
Bro I want to see that snug ass grin wiped off her stupid face after she sees the fact that she basically destroyed the show by being a smug bitch and responding to all the criticisms, lol
lost media implies anyone would dare want to find this. people are better off watching something like sausage party or alfred's playhouse instead of this.
I'm going to say it as a native of LA and being kind of fitting in for what the show is aimed for (a hispanic, LA native that can not speak spanish and knows only broken words/phrases) Primos didn't offend me even through the controversies (except Cuquita because like come on that shouldve been a scrapped name during the initial conception) I saw what the creator was trying to accomplish, even on what people were criticizing. Some of the criticisms were nothings to me such as the large scale families, "Nacho" (which I can confirm is a nickname for those named Ignacio), and even Terremoto Heights's name just being tone deaf at worse to me since the creator was probably more focused on LA earthquakes, not Mexican ones that are the ones that tend to be a lot more deadlier. LA earthquakes are more just a startling inconvenience for us but the only deadly LA one in recent history was probably Northridge like thirty years ago. But again; didn't initially bother me but can see how people would feel a little iffy on that one But what the voice actor said, man. I'll be more of a hot take; I can kinda see what she was trying to say of the show being more for the outliers of those who dont speak spanish properly and how its more of the flaw of the protagonist to explain the intro being incorrect spanish but like, man, did she say it in the worst way possible It sucks a little because I like the idea of the show to represent what some call the "no sabo kids" because hell I would have loved that growing up, speaking as one. Sadly its just another show where the reputation is too damaged for anyone to take seriously or maybe even salvage which I find a little unfortunate
The weirdest thing? If this was some Seth MacFarlane cartoon all the offensive stuff would fit the formula and nobody would really talk about the show.
You just said Seth McFarlane made an offensive adult cartoon. It's literally the phrase- An apple tree grew an apple. This however, is a Disney product aimed at children. Which do you think people will have the energy to care about?
Because if you make something offensive to a culture while trying to be offensive you did your job If you did something offensive, while claiming to be educational, and saying you know more about the culture of those people, just because you speak the language You are an idiot
The thing is, kids like Tater DO exist - I myself have Latin American relatives on my dad’s side (specifically Chile 🇨🇱) & I can’t speak fluent Spanish, only basic conversational Spanish at BEST. So I don’t have a problem with Tater’s broken Spanish, having gone through that growing up but the setting being ‘Terremoto Heights’ & having over half the cousins with stereotypical (or even questionable) sounding names did NOT help the series in the slightest.
5:35 That unibrow girl’s name *ChaCha* in Spanish translation means Nanny/Housemaid, which is a a big stereotype for any Mexican. Does this cartoon expected ChaCha to say “housekeeping?” I remember Gordita it Spanish translation means fatty. I don’t remember which character has that name. I am surprised the cartoon didn’t change ChaCha and Gordita name, i guess their names more appropriate than Cuquita.
Actually apparently the characters are named after food. Gordita is a Mexican dish, Cookita (Lucita) is Cookie, Nacho and Nachito (that one's self explanatory) and so on
@@user-fk7yo4jb1o Nacho is a pretty common nickname for people called Ignacio, while Cuquita is for women called Refugio, though in the latter's case is very regional and not very common these days. Some of the names sound very weird, I don't know if it's because they're meant to be chicano and not actually latino, but they could have used more realistic names that aren't well known among English-speakers, like Lautaro, Estefanía, Facundo, Bardo, Gaby, Yanitzé, Cecilia, Mercedes, Edson, etc. And as for surnames, there's plenty of latino surnames that don't end with -ez, like Marulanda, Arezomena, Escudero, Beltrán, Maneiro, Carreño, Gispert, Lago, Amor, Segundo, Galindo, Noguera, Nieto, etc.
@@spunchbop47428 calling a skinny person "el gordo/la gorda" (the fat one) is kind of common, like calling a bald person "curly". The opposite is also true, calling a fat person, "el flaco/la flaca" (skinny)
The first Deadpool film almost got canned because the studio didn’t had a lot of confidence in the project, but then someone leaked an early animatic of the opening scene online and the positive reception it got made the studio decide to continue with the project. It’s possible that these leaked episodes are a result of something like this. Disney is clearly not too exited to release this show after all the fallout that came from it, it wouldn’t be too far-fetched to assume that, knowing this, someone in the production could have leaked these episodes online in the hopes of showing the world that this thing is not as bad as it’s first impressions made it out to look like.
Saying this as someone who is thinking abt becoming a more professional creator in the future, Myrna’s actions were INCREDIBLY UNPROFESSIONAL and ESPECIALLY from a DISNEY VA. You would think when you’re working for someone as big and as well known as disney you would know how to act professionally and respond well to fan criticism but ig not.💀
(Also a semi side note relating to her “Spanish is a colonizer language” thing, I find it interesting as someone who is Native American how people like her only bring up how bad colonization is and how they hate colonizers ONLY so they can prove their own points. And then when you look to see if they’ve actually done or said anything to help people who are affected by stuff like colonization like me you see fucking nothing. 💀)
@@M0RBID_G1RLZIts a copout. Just like other buzz words: "racist" "sexist" "colonizer" "privilege" These words have been so casually thrown around that they become a bad faith attempt to shut down criticism when you have no argument/defense, which sucks because there's plenty of situations when they're applicable responses but dingbats like Myrna drag everyone down with their careless usage.
@@marcoa.2912 Nacho is real nickname, but it's that fact that there is literally TWO male characters named NachitO and NachitA. That's like someone made a show about a bunch of black kids. And there's two characters called lil Tyrone and lil Tyrona. Which why it's offensive and also doesn't even make sense grammatically.
@@Max25670I still don’t think it’s offensive. They are real names and nicknames. In a lot of Mexican families names are repeated. All of my aunts and mom are named Maria.
@@bridgettemartinez5335 You compare a common name, with literally NACHITO and NACHITA, brother, literally of all the names that could have been used for that, those are the least left, and someone tells you who is the name in the feminine version of their father's, only It makes me see more why this doesn't work. sorry for my horrible english
That's not the point. And there is some genuine discourse to be had regarding the idea that Mexicans have been robbed of the opportunity to decide if they wanted to participate in their own ancestors' culture, and have been stripped of a degree of inherent entitlement to the continent that being perceived as a native person does... But that "entitlement" (In the legitimate sense, not the colloquial, negative sense) only exists if you're in an hyperbolically "progressive" bubble that disregards all the systemic racism against the Native People of the Americas, and she was dropping some serious undertones that Mexicans without some deep connection to their ancestors are, like, missing out on something, or, whatever. Which just feels like when people say you're incomplete as a person because you don't go to their specific church or something. She took some ideas that could have some merit if you had some quality academic discourse and ran off the deep end. A true pseudointellectual. Like how representation is good, but this show? WTF. We all know this aint how its supposed to go
@@stephaniewilliams6756 The person's point was that a distinct American culture has formed since then just like in Mexico and the rest of Latin America.
@@stephaniewilliams6756 While colonialism did happen, the language became prominent because it was what's most commonly used. Saying that the colonialist 'forced' people to adopt the language isn't accurate.
@@La0bouchereNo English was definitely forced. The English colonists weren’t the only ones who did it either, how else would French be rampant in Canada?
10:30 Why is that a controversy? The people who made Moana and Coco were white. And both Mexicans and Polynesians love those films for honoring their respective cultures.
@@StarKid67and why does someone need to do research on a cartoon Disney show based on their own life experiences as an Mexican- American living in L.A.?
I feel like it'd be fine to have tater speaking broken Spanish in the show to have that conversation of feeling disconnected from your roots, something I think the ghost and Molly Mcgee actually did very well. But having broken Spanish be the HOOK of your theme song is just a bad idea, because it's gonna be what sticks in kids minds and they're going 5i start thinking that it is proper Spanish! They're going to think they're learning good Spanish! If it was just tater maybe it'd be okay, but all her cousins are also shouting broken Spanish.
Honestly I think that would have been cool subtle character progression to see her improvement until at the end she's speaking fluently in Spanish But yeah the way they presented the show was pretty bad and just made the show look really amateur
I'm from New Orleans.... And...we got hurricanes rather daily depending on the season. We had huge catastrophic hurricanes long before Katrina. The one that my parents told me about was hurricane Betsy. It was just as bad as Katrina. Bottom line is that hurricanes are just a part of living in New Orleans, and I think nobody gives a rat's tail if a street were named after one. Also, New Orleans is predominantly Black; so... that's not offensive either.
Mariposa Harbor, Connecticut- In the 1600s-1700s, a settler conjures ghostly blue butterflies Pez Dulce Muerto Bay, Louisiana-The children create skeleton fish cookies
The thing is, if this woman has so much beef with Spanish being a "colonizer language", they could've taught kids an indigenous Mexican language and/or dialect, many of which are still known and spoken today. There are people who teach them!
its essentially the "yeah log out buddy, youre done." even if they patch all the issues with the show, the reputation is already tanked because of the VA. Id honestly be willing to argue that disney themselves leaked the first couple episodes to gauge public reaction, because it seems way too convenient for it to just be "yeah 4chan did it" when like.... how would that even be feasible outside of some random highly skilled untraceable hacker finding, downloading, and uploading 2-3 episodes of a kids cartoon?
Fucking loved that show. 2000's PBS kids was amazing. Any of you remember Cyberchase? Apparently it's still going but the animation style changed and probably to survive it's not really about math anymore.
It's another show set in LA, because modern "writers" (or at least the ones the remaining networks hire) simply do not know of any other place on earth. Period! And as a result it limits their storytelling potential. For example, If I were to redraft Star Vs. I would have had Star and Marco's family living in western Ohio. I also would have Marco's family recently moved into the area from LA. This way, while Marco would still serve as Star's guide to earth culture and customs, they would both bond over the shared experience of living in new place. Plus, with the abundance of corn in western Ohio, Star would at least have a (very potent) comfort of home.
Actually, the reason is plain and simple. LA is the sector of the US with the biggest comglomeration of Latino immigrants and Latino-american diaspora. And in the case of Primos, because the creator iirc grew up on La and the show is based on her life. Is not that deep😅
The only thing I have to say in defense of the show is that the names, while sounding offensive, come from normal Spanish names. Nacho and Nachito both come from Ignacio, which was also the name of the guy that invented nachos and named them after himself: Ignacio (or Nacho) Anaya. Nacho is a diminutive of Ignacio. Cuquita, which is slang for 😺 in South American countries, comes first from Cuca, which has the same meaning there and comes from Piluca, diminutive of the name Pilar, which used outside of names means pillar, referring to Our Lady of the Pillar. All that said, I am not very sure if the creators of the show dug that deep to find Soanish names. Edit: I stopped the video just before he made the case on Nacho and wrote all this. The Cuquita thing still stands.
Nacho is real nickname, but it's that fact that there is literally TWO male characters named NachitO and NachitA. That's like someone made a show about a bunch of black kids. And there's two boy characters called lil Tyrone and lil Tyrona. Which why it's offensive and also doesn't even make sense grammatically.
A few weeks ago a guy brought this show up to say "The reason we don't have diversity in animation is because we get shows like this and white people have a meltdown." and I had to tell him "No, MEXICAN people had a meltdown. The people this show is TRYING TO REPRESENT want this show dead and buried." I'm glad this show sounds overall benign but really only the Latino community can decide if this show is just being shallow and lazy or genuinely representing realistic but non-ideal life scenarios.
0:34 The fact that I just watched the 3rd Cinderella movie, in spanish, yesterday, and I'm now watching a video about a spanish Disney show with a Cinderella clip in it just feels so surreal to me. 😅
The fact this show is so hated to the point its targeted audience hates it too…that shows how much Disney failed so horribly by trying to “represent” Latin America(as a boricua person myself I find this show very…questionable)
And calling spanish (a language descendant of LATIN, and the whole reason why Latin America is called that) not latin just shows how much of a geographic and world history knowledge that woman has.
A tale as old as time. A overtly progressive show (video game, comic, etc.) meets fair criticism, the development team (typically the VA) come out and says something stupid, criticism intensifies, critics look into development team’s history, turns out they are weirdo creeps and lastly the show either gets cancelled or shuffled off into obscurity.
The best part about all the controversy surrounding Primos was that, in the midst of all this, a Peruvian cement company released a 12-minute short called "Protegiendo los sueños de Sol" (Protecting Sol's dreams), which featured Sol Segura, a 10-year-old Peruvian girl wanting to build a refuge for street puppies in her city. Despite being, in essence, just a cement ad used as well to spread awareness about the importance of safe building, people loved it. The original video already has 3 million views. It wasn't a response to Primos, because the Peruvian company had been working on the short for some years, but it being released in the midst of the controversy with Primos made people compared the two and people preferred the 12-minute cement ad than the average Disney Channel series. The first, despite being only just a cement ad, had more passion and dedication than the Disney Channel series, which, having watched the leaked pilot last year, I can only say it looked painfully average and uninspired, and not even the character dynamics could save it - it seemed like a bad copy of Good Luck Charlie, Stuck in the Middle and The Loud House.
This is the same Disney that tried to copyright the literal Mexican holiday "Dia De Los Muertos" until they faced backlash from the Mexican government. So they stuck with the name "Coco". True story. Which is why I was always against that movie.
Seriously. If the VA would have said "The main character has lost touch with her family roots and that's why she's making obvious mistake when she talks spanish" and boom! All the critics would have died down because it wasn’t much at first, just some point a bit icky.
Agred. She should have just said that if she had to say anything at all.
Especially if they had an episode dedicated to it later on. Maybe having the family travel to Mexico and feeling stupid for not being able to speak Spanish like native speakers.
Hispanic women are way too egotistical and entitled to do something like that
Not the best excuse. But it's miles better than what the hell she said about "spanish conquests" excuse.
I don't even know why she didn't say that to begin with?? Like in the show there's even a future episode where the characters recap all the songs of the show so far and Tater's cousins correct her by saying its "oigan primos" not "oye primos". That episode was recorded before the intro released so.. why couldn't she just say that?
How does a show die before it even comes out?
Thats impressive.
Show got aborted
@@juu4503 Damn it, you beat me to it.
Loll
It happens a lot, but usually they aren't known at all. That's why it's schocking
Didn't that happen to 12 Forever? Wasn't it doomed before Season 1 came out?
Thing's woulda been chill if that VA hadn't opened her big mouth and spouted nonsense that made everyone hate her
Sometimes people aren’t smart
@@MrSplashMan0*Most of the time.
Primos is an excellent example of how important PR is and your crew should keep quiet.
That woman was such an idiot. And that’s being kinda generous
@@ToonyTails That's become much more common unfortunately.
That voice actor destroyed an entire show that the creator probably was really passionate about, as well as all the animation and VA jobs that were attached to it. I hope she's proud that she got to say her very important piece at the expense of other people's jobs and peace. Seriously, the self-centeredness that access to social media has given people is insane.
show seems racist as fuck.
Zoomers ruin everything
@@lingricen8077 you sure va is a zoomer?
@@EpicSandwich301 She's not. She was born in '88.
Pride, selfishness, and self praising is an issue among our society
Wow. That VA's smirk is the most punchable thing I've seen in many, many years.
Lmao. Agreed
omg same, i fricking hate her careless attitude so much
I would have respected her if she actually said it on a native american language.
every smirk on tik tok is punchable.
Eh, Mindy khaling’s Velma beats it by just enough
I'm still confused of what even was the point the voice actress was trying to make. If Spanish isn't a true Latin America language than what the hell are the characters supposed to speak? Aztec language? Is this what she means by saying they aren't Native Americans?
Yes, that is called Nahuatl. And while many latinos are of indigenous descent, many are mixed european or african
Paraguay is the only Latin American country that I know where a native language is still used officially, I'm talking about Guaraní. You can hear lots of Paraguayans talk in both Spanish and Guaraní
a descendent of the language of the aztecs is still spoken today, but yeah idk what she was trying to say either. yes spanish is originally a colonial language, but despite that it definitely is part of the culture of latin america and has been for centuries by now. if she was actually native from a latino country then yeah, that would be fair, but as far as i know she isn’t so idek
@@Carlos-bz5oo Yeah, many Latin countries still have their original language. She acts as if anyone who isn't an original native isn't a LATAM person.
"Look, it's not my fault we're not using the correct language/grammar because the language we're using was used by bad people. So you shouldn't care that we're not using it correctly."
I think the moment that sealed Primos’ fate is the fact that the show uses the incorrect version of Primos in the theme song and when pointing them out, the show’s VA acted like the people pointing out legitimate incorrect Spanish were trying to troll her. It’s like people are so worried about protecting their political egos they don’t even register when they make a major mistakes in representation, especially when it’s not even their culture. 💀
This is literally the big issue. People made being politically correct their whole personality so if someone even implies that theyre misusing some term/phrase/ misrepresenting a culture, they take it as a personal attack and refuse to grow because if theyre wrong then theyre immoral and theyre perfect so its just trolls criticizing
That was like the Spanish "watch out world, here I are!" _Wish ironically took place in Spain now that I think about it._
Funnily enough the broken spanish isnt even that bad on itself. Is so obviously wrong because is meant to characterize the protag as someone lost with her roots (is even a running gag that she gets corrected in the leaked episodes)
But the Va decided to be stupid and NOW is ok because Colonizers or some shit. And now the show is 6 feet under
Wanna know the funny thing? "Oye primos" sounds EXACTLY like how "hey cousins" would get translated by google translate. ITS ALMOST AS IF THEY JUST WENT ON GOOGLE AND LOOKED FOR THE TRANSLATION
*HOW DO YOU WRITE, SCORE, ANIMATE AND PUBLISH A SONG WITH SUCH A GLARING FUCKING MISTAKE*
@@jdizzy192 there was also that time a Spanish speaking streamer straight up muted spiderman 2 for its incorrect language.
Tbh I blame the VA for all of this. While Earthquake heights can be rather tonedeaf, other things like the broken spanish or the "steriotypical" names can be easily explained (the protag is like 12 and had nevet spoken the language and those are still fucking names)
BUT NOOOOO. This fucking VA with an overblown superiority complex had to come to polarize everyone into hating the show more than they should, because obviously reading a few lines makes you automatically superior, dont they🫠
its funny how one person can effectively destroy an entire project that many others had worked on, before it even began airing
Terremoto Heights isn't all that tone-deaf, since Calfornia does have a few earthquakes. And there's another place in the US known as Tornado Alley.
@@SaiyanGamer95 “Tornado alley” is more of a nickname for a certain region in the US where there’s a higher risk of tornados- I had to learn which states make it up when I was in school (Can’t remember, tho). IMO kinda different from if they named a specific town with a high tornado risk or lots of earthquakes something like that, but I see what you’re getting at
@@SaiyanGamer95Terremotos are deadly in Latin America
@@marcoa.2912 I know. Drinking alcohol is not safe period, even if it has pineapple ice cream on it... Wait, what kind of terremoto are we talking about?
Dearly, someone from Chile/earthquake country.
Honestly I don’t think people talk enough about how UGLY the character designs look.
Yeah they look really off
It's like the character we are seeing is their place holders/ or first drafts, and they just ended use them anyway
I actually like them! I also just genuinely like more “weird” and “ugly” designs like smiling friends for example
Edit: For those saying it doesn’t have human character what about Mr. Boss he is human and looks very ugly and horrifying lol
A few of the characters definitely look off, but i cant pinpoint it on any of them except the bowl cut kid and the guy with the really long head
That’s kinda the style animation has nowadays, have you seen the design for Big Mouth? It’s just what’s “in” right now.
@@RaspBerryPies I usually like pugly designs, but this aint it man
The funniest thing was the time the main character VA called spanish a "non-latin language" because it was imposed by the conquistadors. While speaking a PERFECT ENGLISH.
wtf Spanish and Italian are literally just fucked up Latin it doesn’t get more Latin than that, but then again I don’t think she knows what Latin is
AND IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE BEACUSE LATINOS ARE CALLED LIKE THAT BEACAUSE THEY SPEAK A LENGUAGE DERIVEDED FROM *LATIN*, SO SAYING IT IS A NON-LATIN (talking about a group of people) LEANGUAGE DOES NOT MAKE SENSE
@@becklubime9105 She probably also tries to force the whole Latinx thing.
@@Cowboycomando54 yeah, most racist people do so I wouldn't be surprised.
Oh Heaven forbid. I hate that Latinx shit. Bunch of non-Spanish that don't understand that when in the context of gender, X doesn't work.
Disney didn’t allow Alex to even represent in Gravity Falls and is very strict on LGBTQ representation yet does this shit, this is genuinely insane.
Alex hirsch is political wannbe hero and a political tool grifter who just wants attention cause his career down the drain as well irrelevant so he tries to hop on political issues on social media so he can grift off of it so he can be relevant again...
@@erickjrmaldonadoherrera4531Alex hirsh still has a career and isn't exactly irrelevant
What makes him a grifter or wannabe exactly?
Tbf they also have a huge crowd telling them “woke” so it must be confusing as all hell
@@DORAisD34D Disney is just really good at flip flopping it's not fully for either side
@@DORAisD34D Disney panders to the gays and in general leftists. Unless Disney has a full on original story where someone is explicitly gay without it being cancelled the next season (cough cough owl house) I'm calling what they do pandering
The internet bullying Disney into not releasing a show is up there with it's best achievements
indeed, now watch the pesnuke files
Up there with the Sonic redesign
Especially when this was the show that was supposed to come in after the owl house was canceled, the series that was well-recieved before it got canceled because it had an LGBT character in it
@@RandomDude-Z840Luz and Amity will be remembered by fans for years. This show wasn't remembered after a week.
@@Soulful_Sorrow I was LIVID when they canceled it
The part that boils my blood is when she talks about language, how tf is their faul that they speak spanish and what do you spect them to do? travel in time? unlearn spanish?
Also she was literally talking in English, another colonizer language. Which is ironic
And it invalidates spanish as part of latino culture as well. It's like "this is isn't even YOUR language, it was imposed on you"
@@normalhuman9878is even better than ironic! Because the Spanish conquistadors had descendants with the natives and while they used them as forceful manual labor, they didn't purge them as the English conquistadors did.
@@faertios0404If the spanish empire had done what the english empire actually did I wouldn't be here writing this.
And the point is that, while it is true we were forced to learn Spanish, we made the language OUR OWN. Mexican Spanish isn't the same as the one in Argentina or Chile, they each have unique words or meanings depending on the place. And some of the pre-Spanish languages are still up and about in some countries, like Quechua in Peru.
We made our own culture out of our old traditions and the new ones, so idk what the heck she was going on about Spanish not being a language or whatever (And the fact that she talks in English lol)
My sister and I are half-Mexican, and we turned the voice actor's response into a meme.
That's the spirit!
Cool red panda pfp
@@lylelylecrocodile2538 Thanks, do you have a Tumblr?
At least you acknowledge your Mexican heritage. Unlike the creator who only uses their jewish surname and clearly views her mexican family members as annoying outsiders which is exactly why the show ended up the way that it did.
@@Max25670 Thanks, but I'm honestly not very familiar with Mexican culture, I grew up in a pretty Americanized environment and my Spanish isn't very good. I try my best to acknowledge my culture, when I can.
"Be mad at me all you want." Oh, I am. That lass is not a smart one.
Let‘s face it, Cartoonshi will never escape the bane of his existence: Cartoons about the hijinks of way too large families living in the same house.
Loud House ptsd intensifies.
Thank god for the a ortion. We dont need TWO Loud House fandoms
@@TheDisquietingNightstuck in the middle of
Remember Egypt suing Netflix for that awful Cleopatra “documentary”, I say Spain and every Latin American country should do the same against Disney for butchering the Spanish language!
Not Hispanic,but I'd support that. I just wanna see Disney suffer for what they've done
American companies can't get away as much nowadays with how widespread the internet is. No more bullshit like "Asians having a yellow skin tone"...
Philippines: *Intense Nervous Sweating*
that would be the most absurd, desnecessary and yet funny thing to happen lmfao
How bad was netflix's documentary on Cleopatra exatcly? Just cuirous since if i recall, that lady was lretty chill and likable
Disney keeps making this stuff as if they’re going to have a FRACTION of the popularity of Dragon Ball Z in Mexico
It's not a show for latino people, it's for white people. Look no further than the use of "Latinx"...
Disney has made stuff that is super popular
issa joke bud @@DORAisD34D
@@saj9972 ok
@@saj9972Not a good one
I'm surprised the yellow sky criticism didn't get mentioned here. It's an old stereotype to represent Mexico by using yellow, but the show is supposed to take place in America.
I know a people on here mentioned it in their videos when the initial reveal happened
Used to be really common here in LA till around the 2010s, even now the sky could turn a light yellow, but not as bad as it used to be
Remember the wild fire incident
Yellow sky filter is also a stereotype for Los Angeles in mass media. Famous example is Los Santos from GTA: San Andreas...
In Jorge R Gutierrez' works, there are yellow and blue skies
How did Dora The Explorer do it 10x better than this shot show?
Because Dora the Explorer was actually TRYING to teach Spanish, while Primos wasn't.
Exactly! Even Maya & Miguel and Elena of Avalor is way better than Primos
@@RushWheeler Or english if you're from a spanish-speaking country, which shows an actual level of care for international audiences.
Because Dora actually knows what the Spanish language is.
Mucha Lucha did it a million times better
“911 boulevard” had me rolling
Got a nice ring to it though lmao
Ah 911 Boulevard...most known for its two sinkholes
@@lucklin7821 "Mister President, a second drill hit the sinkhole!" 💀
Tsunami Harbor, Japan
Teremoto Heights is like if there was a japanese-american show and it's setting would be a town called "nuclear city"
I really don't think the backlash would've been as intense IF the VA hadn't opened her trap and caused it to hit a whole other level of shitstorm. Yeah,there probably would've been some backlash based on it's similarities to Loud House and Casagrandes and maybe issues with the representation but the VA just added fuel to the fire and sat back to watch it to burn. I personally took a step back and just watched the fire rage
Yeah that definitely made it worse
@@audreyharris7643Oh it did! There's a good reason that actor hasn't been in well...anything since. I think she kamikaze'd her own career
You think??
There is no speculation here, it just wouldn't
@@An_Entire_LimeIt's 2024. There would've been backlash. Everything gets backlash
I genuinely don't think I could've made a more aesthetically racist show if I poured blood sweat and tears into it
FR the unibrows are crazy
I genuinely don't understand how the show is aesthetically racist. Ugly kids exist. I'm from Latin America and I've seen kids that look like that in real life. I just don't understand where this sentiment comes from. Ugly kids = racism ??? Stop using the term so loosely
How is the design of an ugly kid racist? I don't get it
These is Cleopatra where they race swapped a real historical figure
As a ambassador of dark humour, even this kinda makes me blush with embarressment
"Spanish is a language forced to latin american people"
I love how she ignored the entirety of brazil in that sentense, just say "hispanic"
My thing is: ok, spanish is a language forced on indigenous communities by way of Spanish conquistadors.
Unless you strive to learn or revitalize an indigenous language instead: you're just touting personal ignorance. Regardless of the origin, its a lingua franca for latin american countries which means people speak it _constantly_ . Beyond that, indigenous languages have mixed with Spanish to create regional dialects, creoles, pigeon languages that are unique to their areas and speak to the resilience of indigenous cultures.
You erase all of that when you just plug your ears and go "spanish bad".
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger Not many speak or want to speak native languages. Quechua does not work in the real world as much as Spanish does, same with Guaraní or Nahuatl. It is spoken, you can learn and find people to speak but go to a job and you probably be better learning English instead.
@fixedfunshow this is due to the stigma and history of indigenous' people in Latin American countries seen as lesser in society
Albeit there is the opposite of this extreme where if one speaks even a lick of Spanish they're punished for not speaking an indigenous language but who am I to judge
Cierto
@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger okay but what does any of that have to do with what I said?
I feel so bad for the creator
I went through her social media and some interviews and she seems genuine. She is a mexican american, therefore she wouldnt have the same experiences that I would've have as a Mexican kid, growing and living in Mexico. Her perspective is totally valid... but that VA had to open her smug mouth and taint the show's reputation before it even came out.
If this show gets cancelled, I hope she still thrives in the industry, she doesnt deserve all this backlash
Also as someone from L.A., 'earthquake heights' is much more a crack at the freaking actual city of L.A. and the state of Cali... we get a LOT of quakes... also rofl this guy sounds nuts about the shoes.
Diseny should be careful about who they are hiring next time
I'll be honest, I was part of the wave of people who heard that it was the CREATOR herself who said those things, so I was all "SCREW THE CREATOR" for a while.
Then I found out, oh wait no, it's the VA who said those things. And going further down that rabbit hole after I found that out, I realized hey the creator doesn't seem so bad.
I do think she was unfarily caught in the crossfire of all this. I think she really did intend to make a genuine show that captured her childhood experiences but was ruined before she could ever launch it by the very VA voicing her main character.
A sad outcome for sure.
@@MandiTheMerrow Exactly! "Earthquake Heights" is far, FAR more reflective of the way Americans tend to joke about, and even be dismissive of, natural disasters. I'm from Kansas and my boyfriend's mother has a bumper sticker on her car that says "TORNADO WATCH" with an image of a man sitting back in a lawn chair. And in Florida, during a hurricane, a group of weeaboos Naruto-ran in Category 5 winds. It's a USA thing that didn't really translate well to viewers outside the USA.
How about Mariposa Harbor
I think people need to work on not trying to find random people to blame and harass and just focus on critiquing the show because how the hell did the phineas and ferb creator get involved 😭
Bruh
bruh what 💀
Bro exactly! It’s mainly because it’s fun for people to do so. It’s entertaining to watch drama and be a part of it as long as it doesn’t affect your life.
So people will take a normal amount of criticism and blow it out of proportion involving people that have nothing to do with it
I’m not dating anyone right now guys are jerks. God I know, guys are the worst. 🫸😃 😐
Liberal Twitter users
It's insane how your show dies upon arrival.
Not even on arrival, but beforehand
That would imply it actually arrived
The train derails and explode, killing every character inside before it gets to air on the Disney channel 😭
*before
It didn't even get out. It was aborted
Imagine the dang SpiderVerse movies having better Latin descent representation then your show about Latin descent.
Yeah! But only for Miguel. Here in Hispanic America pretty much no one sees Miles as a latin represent, but rather as just as an African-American, and I mean his color, he's only lived in America and doesn't even speak good Spanish
@@drack1229 ok that’s true.
@@drack1229I think he meant Miles' mom and the Latin American style party
@@Kowalski_at-Bayern no one unironically cares about his mom, not even fetisheizers
@drack1229 Uh, Mile's can still be represented as a Latino, too. Even his own VA claims that he's meant to be the bridge between both cultures. Only difference is that Spider-man Miles takes after his father's influence while PROWLER Miles takes after Rio because of his afro-latino accent heard at the end of Across the Spiderverse.
The problem with Nacho isn't that it's food. The problem is that it's VERY LAZY to name two characters with the SAME name.
Also they are both boys and one of them has a fake female nickname of the same name.
yeah. Like you're in a big family so why would you give two kids the same name, AND then give them the same nickname
“Surprise”
“GET THAT CORN OUTTA MY FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
@@pinkfakecheez yeah they can name him Ignacio or something and then Nacho can be his nickname.
I thought so too but I have a cousin and a brother who have the same name. Both boys are named after my grandfather.
Is it lazy? Yes, but not out of the ordinary
Why does that one kid with the unibrow have a receding hairline?
Why can't a character look different
@@bluebaron6858because little girls don't often look like middle aged fathers
@@Pukeprincess ?
@@PukeprincessI'm from Latin America and I've seen at least 4 girls that look like that in the past 😭 stop acting like ugly kids don't exist
@@Pukeprincess Cut her some slack. She's going through her third divorce.
"911 boulevard" killed me
reminds me of that terrible tragedy
About 3000 can relate.
Twin’s Towers. A hotel setting where the main characters are 9 and 11
@@MetaGiga "God, 9! You never arrive on time! You always get here 17 minutes later than I do!"
"At least I leave eariler than you!" *Laugh track*
Nice lmao @bibblyboing
We live in a world where we have Dora, Maya & Miguel, El Tigre, ¡Mucha Lucha!, and the Book of Life. We've long past the need for Primos.
Nothing wrong with putting your life expirience and creating art. We live in a world with a lot of superhero movies does this mean we have no need for more?
And they're far more better and respectful than Primos.
Hey, Book of Life mentioned! That one was good.
This just reads as "We have shows about Mexican culture, we don't need anymore."
@@wjulabasia5191this Glazing is More Glazed then the entire Kripsy Kreme Factory industry you need Go touch Grass Kid
Honestly all the hate on the internet just gave it more publicity than it ever deserved.
I disagree
Fr. Molly McGee and Moon Girl could've used half the attention that went to Primos
I disagree. If anything, it encouraged me and my cousins to rewatch good Latino media like Mucha Lucha and The Book Of Life. The existence of Primos can be used as a way to push people to watch good shows and movies that do representation right.
Nope, this is a case where "Bad Publicity is Good Publicity" didn't help this show.
@@melvinm.261I mean, as a Latino myself.....an orange has not a lot to do with an apple. Sure all 3 have to do with Latino culture but Mucha Lucha and the Book of Life have to do with Mexicans and Primos with Mexican-Americans, so the experiences will be different just by that alone😅 Not all mexicans have the same experiences
God, you can tell that VA was on some sort of high at that point. I don't blame them, she nailed a main character role in a Disney animated tv show, that's almost set for life territory in your career, but then she pretty much immediately tarnished that representation.
Being the main VA of a long running series for Disney is a dream come true. Too bad she fucked it up herself and now it would be a miracle if this show gets a second season.
She dug her own grave with this. Not that the show was any better before her response to the criticism, but you get my point
Coming from a Mexican/Bolivian American, I think what makes the video even funnier besides the fact that she’s speaking in English is that I know she doesn’t even know the names of the native languages she pretends to be in tune with. Like they still exist and for the most part are easy to learn if you are genuinely interested, a large part of the Quechuas were wiped out due to colonizers and yet I still learned the language despite being in the exact same situation growing up as her. 😂
I hated that people mistake the VA for the creator of the show. The show clearly had good intentions with a few problems that was easily fixable. Imagine having your show axed bc your lead VA couldn’t keep her mouth shut. She should be fired for that
blacklisted for sure
As a Mexican born in Mexico "primos" feels like it represents what many Mexicans and other Latinos are tired of seeing, many do not like stories of Latinos born in the USA because at the end of day those stories will never represent us.
I don't know how to explain it but it feels stereotypical and sanitized, the poorly spoken spanish and the stereotype of the Latin family who always are there for eachother.
Returning to the sanitized representation, I feel like Mexico it's just a difficult country to adapt to in a certain way, our culture is bloody, beautiful, painful and funny,terrible and great things happen at the same time here and that feeling it's just hard to capture.
(Idk The only movie I have seen that at least represents my vision of Mexico is a mexican movie called "Museo" you should see it)
I do agree with you on that and I’m a Mexican who is a first generation of my family to be born in the US. Every time there is a show about Latinos living in a small house in LA where there’s like 20 of them crammed inside just annoys me. It is true that some families have that but it doesn’t mean we’re all together or happy about it like they are in the show. Most of the time you just have no choice because of your financial state or still having to wait on getting your papers and it’s better to stay with family than be on the streets. There’s a lot of challenges which I grew up experiencing and knowing them when I was in a house like that (and NOT in LA where the family always lives at for some reason ) not to mention how it’s so stereotypical to have the kids not know proper Spanish when there’s plenty of families who do teach their kids to speak Spanish and do it all day at home. It’s just lazy writing that this show does like all the rest that have aired before it.
I’m waiting for a show that represents Latinos and Hispanics born in Asian and European countries and as a Filipino-Mexican myself, there’s barely even representation of Asian Latinos and Asian Hispanics and its disappointing to say the least. My great-great grandfather, who was a Catholic priest, arrived at the Philippines from Mexico during the time of Spanish occupation around 18-19th century-ish. And I agree, I always see representations of Latinos born in USA more than I see representations of Latinos and Hispanics born in Asian or European countries. Like we need a representation of the Filipino-Mexican community and/or the Hispanic community in Germany, France, or Italy.
@@cosm1cCa5Tperwhat is it like being an asian latino??? i’ve never met one (that i know of, at least) despite running an asian club at my college. even african-asians are rare to see
What is the difference between Latin and Hispanic? I keep seeing both terms thrown around but don't really know the difference
@@MWL_TTK Latino usually refers to someone who lives in Latin America and Hispanic to someone who speaks Spanish, for example a person from Spain is Hispanic but not Latino because Spain is in Europe.
Seeing now that Primos is one year old, not even officially released, and still getting talked about how insane it is is actually insane. I’ve actually known about Primos long before its theme song even got shown to the public.
I went to a class for arts and they brought in a worker at Disney who made both backgrounds and prop designs in animation, she worked for The Casagrandes and showed us some of the examples she made in the show like vehicles and buildings and even some concepts for backgrounds. She was so cool and showed us how we can build a portfolio and tips in the animation industry, it was great!
But she also told us that she would be working on the upcoming animated show Primos, which NONE of us knew about. She was able to give very brief information on it and what she said made it sound like a cute passion project for the Hispanic community and discovering who you are as an individual in this little world. I’m Mexican-American and I really thought it was gonna be nice since she sounded really excited about it!
Sadly once it came out… yeah, I agree with the backlash
Damn, that sad. I hope that artist gets another job soon.
i genuinely think everyone who helped draw and write for the show were passionate about the project and wanted to make something special for mexican american kids, but their crappy choices in the show's intro and especially their PR response sealed the show's fate, it's going to be known forever as a bad show, even if they released it and it turned out to be the best kids show ever. the whole situation is very crummy
Was that woman Natasha Kline, by chance?
@@ThePrincessCH nope. It was a complicated name lol, I think it had a Z in it
you can't help but feel bad for some people that work on dumpster fires if they're not the reason the project is a dumpster fire.
Prismo is a rare example where everyone came together to put this show down for being so bad and criticize the VA for their tone-deaf response. Disney really pulled an L on this.
Like high guardian spice?
High guardian sadly got green lit for 2 seasons. This barely has an episode out.
"criticize the creator for their response" yo wasn't it stated in this video that it was the protagonists voice actor that did that response
But the creator did nothing tho? In the bible she says the broken spanish was intencional, as to make the protag look lost in touch with her cousins
If someone is actually tonedeaf, is the fucking VA😂 She literally ruined everything
That was the VA 😭
Honestly, I'm very sorry to the creator and all talented people who worked on the show. I can imagine that getting to work on your own Disney show is a dream for many people in the industry. Then again, it's baffling to me how non of those people cared to fix or even notice any of those issues while the show was being made
Tbh it seems like a Disney version of loud house
Will it have basic kids fart jokes
The Casagrandes would like to have a word with you.
Cassa Grande but worse 💀
say whatever you'd like, primos would have a more normal fanbase.
@@jaco8822it wouldn’t even have a fan base fym 💀
Akira Toriyama had better success with appealing to a Mexican demographic with dragon ball and goku and he wasn’t even trying
the VA sliding in with the concrete sfx was too funny lmao
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:43 Chapter 1: The actual Show
3:22 Chapter 2: Everything gets worse
8:14 Chapter 3: Disney´s PR Nightmare
12:32 Conclusion
Primos will be the poster boy for the always relevant phrase: “Shut up Gringo”
Tbh a shame since the episodes are decent and it actually adresses a lot of the critisims (like the running gag of the protag getting corrected for the "Oye primos" since its obviously incorrect) but sadly, the Va made things 100 times worse😅
@@mysticpumpkin8520bad pr can and often will nuke the view of your show
Shut up Griego?
Funny enough there already a parody Song called *Oye Gringo!* Made by a TH-camr, *The Angry Mexican*
And also the one who started it all: Encanto. When a bunch of people bashed an artist because of their Encanto fanart and latinos got angry at gringos for that and invented the #shutupgringo hashtag on twitter.
4:03 I don’t know why I thought Toonshi was gonna come out that he’s part Mexican 💀
😭
Im Brazilian
And no one messes with my Latino Bros
*Chapolin Approves. 🦗 💪*
El Chapulin Colorado Approves 🦗🦾
thank u bro
I'm American and I apologize for this and I will stand up for my neighbors
Wait until the next Disney cartoon being about a brazilian family that loves to dance samba, play soccer all day and eat feijoada, while having to avoid getting shot by stray bullets from police shootouts
A fascinating peek into the animation industry from an alternate timeline where CSA won the Civil War.
Even they wouldn’t have made a product butchering Spanish and talking down on those saying how the language is an “oppressor language”.
@@TheDigitalApple amen! Reject Primos
Embrace The Pensuke Files
CSA?
@@xcellentcreations3312CSA was a confederation of slave states in the Southern US, it existed during 1861-1865, Florida, Texas, North and South Carolina and Virginia were some of the major states
Combined Syndicates of America, from HoI4 (a WW2 strategy game) mod KaiserReich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg (a World where Germans won WW1). They are a side in Second American Civil War representing the Leftists.
The toddler character wasn’t the only kid with a problematic name. The unibrow gremlin is called Chacha, which here in Mexico is a despective term levied against house maids.
There’s also the ongoing issue that yet again, the unibrow character is shown to be a gross, unruly creature instead of anything else, if the leaked episodes are any indication. American media is obsessed with unibrows as an ugly trait, and even with the sudden rise in interest in foreign media, there’s a concerned effort to ignore the plight and activism of people with this features; in this case specifically, ignoring Frida Khalo’s political statement about Latin American women and AFAB people with unibrows and hairy bodies.
It’s kind of baffling that there’s so many tone-deaf decisions in this show considering how sanitized Disney likes to operate as a brand. Where were the Mexican and Latino sensitivity staff? How did no one catch stuff like “Terremoto Heights” and the fact that the show features a constant yellowish sky..?
Yet Squilliam Fancyson from Spongebob is viewed by everyone in the show & by the viewers as the most handsome & successful character in the series(the exact opposite of Squidward) and people love his unibrow. Just like how we call the Fat Controller from Thomas the Tank Engine by his real name "Sir Topham Hatt" even though the Fat Controller is a title of importance, not an insult(even though fat has been used on other characters as an insult, but that's beside the point.), yet Rolly in 101 Dalmatians the Series & Manny from Ice Age are both called fat AS an insult by other characters. Wow, Wilbert Awdry was in a way right about us Americans, we are hypocrites.
Just as a bit of perspective to how "disgusting" extra hair is seen in American culture, I was made fun of for (and almost immediately started plucking) my unibrow at 9 fcking years old💀 I'm white too, it's just marketed as "unhygienic" unfortunately
Helga Pataki from Hey Arnold is adorable with her unibrow as the show goes on
Terremoto heights comparisons:
9/11 city, USA
Tsunami town, Japan
Bushfire valley, Australia
Holocaust city, Germany
Putin town, Ukraine
Potato famine city, Ireland
Genocide heights, Rwanda (or any other affected place)
Explosion city, Iraq
Massacre region, Cambodia
ISIS valley, Syria
COVID 19 region, China
British Raj town, India
Global warming city, Maldives
Israel and Palestine having places named after each other
Starvation heights, Ethiopia
Kim Jong town, *south* Korea
Missile Crisis city, Cuba
Hitler valley, Poland
Inflation region, Zimbabwe
Chemical explosion city, Lebanon
I’m sure others will come up with more
fucking starvation heights 💀
Breivik's island of Norway and Lisa Holm town in Sweden.
Mariposa Harbor, Connecticut
“Missle crisis city” sounds like a sonic the hedgehog stage.
Pez Dulce Muerto Bay, Louisiana
As native mexican I always thought the Primos hate was way overblow, and given Natasha's previous work on South Park, I took with humor the whole Terremoto Heights and hung sneakers (those are everywhere here, the drug selling signal completely lost meaning) but Myrna's altered perception of reality just fucked up the entre thing.
Myrna pulled out the La Rosa de Guadalupe villain speech and it was over, all she needed was the dramatic piano background music
@@gcomastah POR QUE ESTAS BESANDO A LA LISIADA
Also the broken Spanish is normal, at least for my family who have lived in the US since the 60s
@@Funnyseal53 mi hermano en cristo, we already use so many anglisisms on the regular we look like fucking hypocrites
The stupid tune of this show had been stuck in my brain for months after. I didn't even remember the lyrics but the rhythm of it stayed in my mind for literally no reason.
I have that “Oye Gringos “ parody song stuck in my head.
@@theotherther1Oye Griegos
I'm glad I didn't bother checking out the intro song and I'm not planning to. The whole show is too ugly
poor you, i don't even remember what it sounds like despite having heard it so many times myself.
4:45 I think with the shoes, it's pretty easy to sneak things into the background art. That's how the Simpsons writers got away with a lot of sign gags (like Stoner's Pot Palace).
the shoes can also represent whole bunch of other things, sometimes it represents those who just graduated highschool, back in auckland newzealand there was a fuckload of those shoes in my general area growing up, its not just a latino thing, more of a thing people who live in a rural area do
@@Sleepy_Cabbagetrue, but the show is based in Los Angeles, where the shoes on powerlines can often mean criminal activity
8:08
The slow grinding and cartoon bluntly saying “what the hell is that”
Feel bad for the creator. Besides few genuine mistakes, the show would have been fine.
If the VA hadn't done that video 😬
Yeah, every other thing this show is criticized for honestly feels fine to me. People are saying it’s Mexican stereotypes but I see tons of things like this in real life.
@@HaiAmbityea I agree, the shoes hanging on the line, the yellowish sky and the overcrowded houses with kids running around feel nostalgic. Even the broken Spanish feels normal
What mistakes did the creator make?
The way they could have easily fixed like half of the mistakes in the show or even the intro itself is generally crazy. But, the VA had to ruin it even more. You know, this show is probably going to become lost media at this point.
Bro I want to see that snug ass grin wiped off her stupid face after she sees the fact that she basically destroyed the show by being a smug bitch and responding to all the criticisms, lol
lost media implies anyone would dare want to find this. people are better off watching something like sausage party or alfred's playhouse instead of this.
I'm going to say it as a native of LA and being kind of fitting in for what the show is aimed for (a hispanic, LA native that can not speak spanish and knows only broken words/phrases)
Primos didn't offend me even through the controversies (except Cuquita because like come on that shouldve been a scrapped name during the initial conception)
I saw what the creator was trying to accomplish, even on what people were criticizing. Some of the criticisms were nothings to me such as the large scale families, "Nacho" (which I can confirm is a nickname for those named Ignacio), and even Terremoto Heights's name just being tone deaf at worse to me since the creator was probably more focused on LA earthquakes, not Mexican ones that are the ones that tend to be a lot more deadlier. LA earthquakes are more just a startling inconvenience for us but the only deadly LA one in recent history was probably Northridge like thirty years ago. But again; didn't initially bother me but can see how people would feel a little iffy on that one
But what the voice actor said, man. I'll be more of a hot take; I can kinda see what she was trying to say of the show being more for the outliers of those who dont speak spanish properly and how its more of the flaw of the protagonist to explain the intro being incorrect spanish but like, man, did she say it in the worst way possible
It sucks a little because I like the idea of the show to represent what some call the "no sabo kids" because hell I would have loved that growing up, speaking as one. Sadly its just another show where the reputation is too damaged for anyone to take seriously or maybe even salvage which I find a little unfortunate
Who would've thought that a company with a history of being racist, would continue to be racist😱😱😱😱
None of this would've happened if Mariposa Harbor could've premiered along with Hailey's on It Season 2
And how is show racist? Tell me.
The weirdest thing? If this was some Seth MacFarlane cartoon all the offensive stuff would fit the formula and nobody would really talk about the show.
This technically already happened with the good times reboot
You just said Seth McFarlane made an offensive adult cartoon. It's literally the phrase- An apple tree grew an apple. This however, is a Disney product aimed at children. Which do you think people will have the energy to care about?
Seth MacFarlane would do this for dark humor
He already did that, it was called Bordertown and somehow the character designs are nowhere near as caricaturish
Because if you make something offensive to a culture while trying to be offensive you did your job
If you did something offensive, while claiming to be educational, and saying you know more about the culture of those people, just because you speak the language
You are an idiot
Hi. Mexican-American here. Shoes hanging from power lines usually means someone died or it's under gang territory depending where you live
Or a zone of drugs sealing
Common inner city stuff
Or bored kids with nothing to do.
@@XiaoFury Not in a Latino household. You bored and got nothing to do? Go clean the kitchen or go pray.
I was actually waiting for you to cover this show.... the backlash the show got had me thinking that the show got cancelled.
When I'm in a "be racist challenge" and my opponent is Disney:
The thing is, kids like Tater DO exist - I myself have Latin American relatives on my dad’s side (specifically Chile 🇨🇱) & I can’t speak fluent Spanish, only basic conversational Spanish at BEST.
So I don’t have a problem with Tater’s broken Spanish, having gone through that growing up but the setting being ‘Terremoto Heights’ & having over half the cousins with stereotypical (or even questionable) sounding names did NOT help the series in the slightest.
5:35 That unibrow girl’s name *ChaCha* in Spanish translation means Nanny/Housemaid, which is a a big stereotype for any Mexican. Does this cartoon expected ChaCha to say “housekeeping?”
I remember Gordita it Spanish translation means fatty. I don’t remember which character has that name.
I am surprised the cartoon didn’t change ChaCha and Gordita name, i guess their names more appropriate than Cuquita.
Actually apparently the characters are named after food. Gordita is a Mexican dish, Cookita (Lucita) is Cookie, Nacho and Nachito (that one's self explanatory) and so on
@@user-fk7yo4jb1o Nacho is a pretty common nickname for people called Ignacio, while Cuquita is for women called Refugio, though in the latter's case is very regional and not very common these days. Some of the names sound very weird, I don't know if it's because they're meant to be chicano and not actually latino, but they could have used more realistic names that aren't well known among English-speakers, like Lautaro, Estefanía, Facundo, Bardo, Gaby, Yanitzé, Cecilia, Mercedes, Edson, etc. And as for surnames, there's plenty of latino surnames that don't end with -ez, like Marulanda, Arezomena, Escudero, Beltrán, Maneiro, Carreño, Gispert, Lago, Amor, Segundo, Galindo, Noguera, Nieto, etc.
the nerd character has the name gordita, it’s probably some sort of “attempt” at “irony “
@@spunchbop47428 calling a skinny person "el gordo/la gorda" (the fat one) is kind of common, like calling a bald person "curly". The opposite is also true, calling a fat person, "el flaco/la flaca" (skinny)
Cha-Cha is probably a nickname to Isabel, as Isabels are sometimes called Chabela
The first Deadpool film almost got canned because the studio didn’t had a lot of confidence in the project, but then someone leaked an early animatic of the opening scene online and the positive reception it got made the studio decide to continue with the project.
It’s possible that these leaked episodes are a result of something like this. Disney is clearly not too exited to release this show after all the fallout that came from it, it wouldn’t be too far-fetched to assume that, knowing this, someone in the production could have leaked these episodes online in the hopes of showing the world that this thing is not as bad as it’s first impressions made it out to look like.
That makes sense
Saying this as someone who is thinking abt becoming a more professional creator in the future, Myrna’s actions were INCREDIBLY UNPROFESSIONAL and ESPECIALLY from a DISNEY VA. You would think when you’re working for someone as big and as well known as disney you would know how to act professionally and respond well to fan criticism but ig not.💀
If this show EVER gets to the air I RLLY wouldn’t be shocked if Disney gives her the boot.
(Also a semi side note relating to her “Spanish is a colonizer language” thing, I find it interesting as someone who is Native American how people like her only bring up how bad colonization is and how they hate colonizers ONLY so they can prove their own points. And then when you look to see if they’ve actually done or said anything to help people who are affected by stuff like colonization like me you see fucking nothing. 💀)
@@M0RBID_G1RLZIts a copout.
Just like other buzz words: "racist" "sexist" "colonizer" "privilege"
These words have been so casually thrown around that they become a bad faith attempt to shut down criticism when you have no argument/defense, which sucks because there's plenty of situations when they're applicable responses but dingbats like Myrna drag everyone down with their careless usage.
Um… maybe you forgot about Rachel Ziegler? She blew up her career with the stupid crap she said. And she had landed a few Disney roles.
It's always a good day when Cartoonshi uploads
No it's not.. it's not a good day when he continues to grift off his fake youtube channel career..
@@erickjrmaldonadoherrera4531 Nice try, kiddo, but I know bait when I see it
@@erickjrmaldonadoherrera4531what
@@justaghostinthesea unrelated but aye, another aroace! :)
RIP Nacho, bro never got a chance to
@@andrewsanusi8462Nacho is a common nickname for people named "Ignacio".
@@marcoa.2912 Nacho is real nickname, but it's that fact that there is literally TWO male characters named NachitO and NachitA. That's like someone made a show about a bunch of black kids. And there's two characters called lil Tyrone and lil Tyrona. Which why it's offensive and also doesn't even make sense grammatically.
@@Max25670I still don’t think it’s offensive. They are real names and nicknames. In a lot of Mexican families names are repeated. All of my aunts and mom are named Maria.
@@bridgettemartinez5335 You compare a common name, with literally NACHITO and NACHITA, brother, literally of all the names that could have been used for that, those are the least left, and someone tells you who is the name in the feminine version of their father's, only It makes me see more why this doesn't work.
sorry for my horrible english
What that VA said is like saying the British forced the English language on the US.
That is what happened tho. Whats done is done but that is just a fact, colonialism happened
That's not the point.
And there is some genuine discourse to be had regarding the idea that Mexicans have been robbed of the opportunity to decide if they wanted to participate in their own ancestors' culture, and have been stripped of a degree of inherent entitlement to the continent that being perceived as a native person does...
But that "entitlement" (In the legitimate sense, not the colloquial, negative sense) only exists if you're in an hyperbolically "progressive" bubble that disregards all the systemic racism against the Native People of the Americas, and she was dropping some serious undertones that Mexicans without some deep connection to their ancestors are, like, missing out on something, or, whatever. Which just feels like when people say you're incomplete as a person because you don't go to their specific church or something.
She took some ideas that could have some merit if you had some quality academic discourse and ran off the deep end. A true pseudointellectual.
Like how representation is good, but this show? WTF. We all know this aint how its supposed to go
@@stephaniewilliams6756 The person's point was that a distinct American culture has formed since then just like in Mexico and the rest of Latin America.
@@stephaniewilliams6756 While colonialism did happen, the language became prominent because it was what's most commonly used. Saying that the colonialist 'forced' people to adopt the language isn't accurate.
@@La0bouchereNo English was definitely forced. The English colonists weren’t the only ones who did it either, how else would French be rampant in Canada?
10:30 Why is that a controversy? The people who made Moana and Coco were white. And both Mexicans and Polynesians love those films for honoring their respective cultures.
Didn't Do Research Then?
@@StarKid67and why does someone need to do research on a cartoon Disney show based on their own life experiences as an Mexican- American living in L.A.?
I feel like it'd be fine to have tater speaking broken Spanish in the show to have that conversation of feeling disconnected from your roots, something I think the ghost and Molly Mcgee actually did very well. But having broken Spanish be the HOOK of your theme song is just a bad idea, because it's gonna be what sticks in kids minds and they're going 5i start thinking that it is proper Spanish! They're going to think they're learning good Spanish! If it was just tater maybe it'd be okay, but all her cousins are also shouting broken Spanish.
Honestly I think that would have been cool subtle character progression to see her improvement until at the end she's speaking fluently in Spanish
But yeah the way they presented the show was pretty bad and just made the show look really amateur
calling the street terremoto heights is like calling New Orleans black street 💀
Or Hurricane Heights lol 😂
Flash Flood City
I'm from New Orleans....
And...we got hurricanes rather daily depending on the season. We had huge catastrophic hurricanes long before Katrina. The one that my parents told me about was hurricane Betsy. It was just as bad as Katrina.
Bottom line is that hurricanes are just a part of living in New Orleans, and I think nobody gives a rat's tail if a street were named after one.
Also, New Orleans is predominantly Black; so... that's not offensive either.
Mariposa Harbor, Connecticut- In the 1600s-1700s, a settler conjures ghostly blue butterflies
Pez Dulce Muerto Bay, Louisiana-The children create skeleton fish cookies
The thing is, if this woman has so much beef with Spanish being a "colonizer language", they could've taught kids an indigenous Mexican language and/or dialect, many of which are still known and spoken today. There are people who teach them!
The "art style" alone is pain.
How can I judge the plot while suffering?
Alternative title.
“Primos: Disney’s most forgettable”
Nope, nightmare Ned exists...
Here’s a better one.
“Primos: Disney’s version of Velma”
@@antoniomejia9348except that the press on the show actually kills it
@@thememeqween Meaning?
@@antoniomejia9348 “Primos: The Show Disney Wants You to Forget.”
The show was going to premiere on my birthday. What a fucking happy birthday to me.
Damn.
Happy birthday 🎉
its essentially the "yeah log out buddy, youre done." even if they patch all the issues with the show, the reputation is already tanked because of the VA. Id honestly be willing to argue that disney themselves leaked the first couple episodes to gauge public reaction, because it seems way too convenient for it to just be "yeah 4chan did it" when like.... how would that even be feasible outside of some random highly skilled untraceable hacker finding, downloading, and uploading 2-3 episodes of a kids cartoon?
whoever leaked should be ashamed, literally no one asked for it to even exist.
The mc's VA had to have had a grudge relating to this show
also that street name is like if you called a place in Chicago Hood Street
Anyone remember Maya & Miguel?
I grew up watching it. 😊
Yes! I love that show!
PBS kids and Qubo are peak fr
Fucking loved that show. 2000's PBS kids was amazing.
Any of you remember Cyberchase? Apparently it's still going but the animation style changed and probably to survive it's not really about math anymore.
I remember watching Maya and Miguel on PBS Kids Go
"Bro, wake up, new cartoonshi video!"
It's another show set in LA, because modern "writers" (or at least the ones the remaining networks hire) simply do not know of any other place on earth. Period! And as a result it limits their storytelling potential.
For example, If I were to redraft Star Vs. I would have had Star and Marco's family living in western Ohio. I also would have Marco's family recently moved into the area from LA. This way, while Marco would still serve as Star's guide to earth culture and customs, they would both bond over the shared experience of living in new place. Plus, with the abundance of corn in western Ohio, Star would at least have a (very potent) comfort of home.
Actually, the reason is plain and simple. LA is the sector of the US with the biggest comglomeration of Latino immigrants and Latino-american diaspora. And in the case of Primos, because the creator iirc grew up on La and the show is based on her life. Is not that deep😅
@@mysticpumpkin8520LA, in general, has a very diverse population. Not only Mexicans, but also people from all over Eastern Asia and the Middle East.
The only thing I have to say in defense of the show is that the names, while sounding offensive, come from normal Spanish names.
Nacho and Nachito both come from Ignacio, which was also the name of the guy that invented nachos and named them after himself: Ignacio (or Nacho) Anaya. Nacho is a diminutive of Ignacio.
Cuquita, which is slang for 😺 in South American countries, comes first from Cuca, which has the same meaning there and comes from Piluca, diminutive of the name Pilar, which used outside of names means pillar, referring to Our Lady of the Pillar.
All that said, I am not very sure if the creators of the show dug that deep to find Soanish names.
Edit: I stopped the video just before he made the case on Nacho and wrote all this. The Cuquita thing still stands.
You do realize if the show gets dubbed Into other Spanish languages, the "problematic" names would just be localized to something else, right?
Nacho is real nickname, but it's that fact that there is literally TWO male characters named NachitO and NachitA. That's like someone made a show about a bunch of black kids. And there's two boy characters called lil Tyrone and lil Tyrona. Which why it's offensive and also doesn't even make sense grammatically.
Hey, another "Primos controversies" video to add to the collection!
Hey, i grew up in LA, and there's so many earthquakes there that Earthquake Heights is a funny name for a neighborhood and makes total sense
I just hate how the characters look so much lol
Yeah me too
Then you're racist
To everyone looking down here: I see you. Go scroll back up and finish the video first.
No! You're not the boss of me. Lol.
no
Nah sorry
I already did.
I didn’t think a Disney Channel show would get more hate than Bunk’d, let alone a show that hadn’t premiered yet!
Always a good day when Cartoonshi uploads, love this guy's content
A few weeks ago a guy brought this show up to say "The reason we don't have diversity in animation is because we get shows like this and white people have a meltdown." and I had to tell him "No, MEXICAN people had a meltdown. The people this show is TRYING TO REPRESENT want this show dead and buried."
I'm glad this show sounds overall benign but really only the Latino community can decide if this show is just being shallow and lazy or genuinely representing realistic but non-ideal life scenarios.
Ask him why there was no meltdown for "Mucha Lucha" or "El Tigre"?
0:34 The fact that I just watched the 3rd Cinderella movie, in spanish, yesterday, and I'm now watching a video about a spanish Disney show with a Cinderella clip in it just feels so surreal to me. 😅
Primos is just another example of Disney half-assing representation for mainstream appeal while also silencing genuinely good ones.
their is actually a Disney show very similar to Primos a show called stuck in the middle
Except it's animated. I fr forgot about Stuck in the middle until this comment
You do know that more than one Hispanic show can exist right?
The fact this show is so hated to the point its targeted audience hates it too…that shows how much Disney failed so horribly by trying to “represent” Latin America(as a boricua person myself I find this show very…questionable)
And calling spanish (a language descendant of LATIN, and the whole reason why Latin America is called that) not latin just shows how much of a geographic and world history knowledge that woman has.
A tale as old as time. A overtly progressive show (video game, comic, etc.) meets fair criticism, the development team (typically the VA) come out and says something stupid, criticism intensifies, critics look into development team’s history, turns out they are weirdo creeps and lastly the show either gets cancelled or shuffled off into obscurity.
Saw Mexican TH-camrs react to her “colonizer” comment, and yes that was the moment everyone gave up on her.
Never forget when Disney tried to trademark Dia de Muertos , a national holiday with prehispanic origins
I just got back from watching Inside Out 2 and this shows up in my notificiations.
The best part about all the controversy surrounding Primos was that, in the midst of all this, a Peruvian cement company released a 12-minute short called "Protegiendo los sueños de Sol" (Protecting Sol's dreams), which featured Sol Segura, a 10-year-old Peruvian girl wanting to build a refuge for street puppies in her city. Despite being, in essence, just a cement ad used as well to spread awareness about the importance of safe building, people loved it. The original video already has 3 million views. It wasn't a response to Primos, because the Peruvian company had been working on the short for some years, but it being released in the midst of the controversy with Primos made people compared the two and people preferred the 12-minute cement ad than the average Disney Channel series. The first, despite being only just a cement ad, had more passion and dedication than the Disney Channel series, which, having watched the leaked pilot last year, I can only say it looked painfully average and uninspired, and not even the character dynamics could save it - it seemed like a bad copy of Good Luck Charlie, Stuck in the Middle and The Loud House.
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This is the same Disney that tried to copyright the literal Mexican holiday "Dia De Los Muertos" until they faced backlash from the Mexican government. So they stuck with the name "Coco". True story. Which is why I was always against that movie.