Coming from a GS after 60 000 km of touring on all types of terrain, I find the T7 the best bike ever built. Its beauty is in its simplicity. You can tour on it, but you can also ride off-ride like a beast. No fear, 100% confidence. And that is all because of the bike, not my experience. I sorted the fuel challenge by fixing a 2l fuel canister on either side of the engine protection bars, inside a durable offroad crash bar bag. Now I ride with enough surety that I will not run out of fuel. The weight is nice and low so that it does not interfere with the dynamics and balance. BEST BIKE EVER BUILT!
It is a well built bike with proven reliability. Smart move with the extra fuel down low. That will help the balance of the bike. I miss some of the creatures comforts from the GS though. Maybe it will grow on me.
You will always learn a lot on a long trip. About yourself, the bike, and your gear. I have over 50k on my T7 and have no desire for another bike, it just works. There are improvements that can be made (especially suspension) but not many are truly needed.
Agreed, but for the long road miles I find this bike to be a chore to ride. If I stayed offroad all the time this would be the perfect bike. It's nit picky but the return spring on the throttle seems heavy to me. Hour after hour on the road and my shoulder, wrist and elbow start getting fatigued, even with a throttle lock. You have certainly proven it is a capable long distance bike, just not sure it is for me. I sorted the suspension and it made a huge difference. Cheers.
Try putting a larger sprocket up front. One more tooth did it for me. It drops the rpm’s 4 to 500 on the Hwy for a little better mileage and still has great power for anything off-road. Stock chain works fine with the change.
Really glad you’re enjoying that bike. I remember commenting on your video where you said you were a little nonplussed by the whole thing. I had a feeling the more time you spend on it the more you would enjoy it. I have 25,000 on mine, and have done mostly off-road on it. I did beef up my suspension and put quite a few other of the standard upgrades to make it how I wanted but I think the bike is one of the best all around you could ever purchase and it’s also extremely reliable, which is a huge plus. Well done bro. Nice video.
Thanks. In the video I dropped a hint that another bike has caught my eye. The T7 reliability is hard to beat, but with more long distance in a short period trips I really miss cruise control and tubeless tires. For now, I am going to wringe out the CP2.
I have the white red T7 and put the Clear Acerbic Tank on, it's lighter than stock so the extra fuel sort of balances out a fair bit. When I filled it first time I marked it in 2Litre increments, Can get about 24 litres in it, and do 500km in a pinch. No fuel anxiety now as you can see exactly what range you have left, about 40 safe km per mark. Love the bike, only top heavy when rolling around garage and stopped in bad terrain. As you know once your rolling that all goes away and feels more stable and confidence inspiring than my old wr250r.
@@advmattIf you do, I also bought the locking acerbic fuel cap, mainly because it has no breather hose, so your tank bag can sit on it. Bloody expensive upgrade here is AUS. $700 for the tank, $70 for the cap. Worth it so far, no mucking around with bladders, and if you're not going too far dont fill it up. 😁
Thanks for the video! I know it's old and you already updated your springs. However, for those that do not want to update your springs, you can adjust the suspension. For me, I'm 190lbs, I did top forks 14 clicks left, bottom forks 8 clicks left, rear shock bottom 10 clicks left, rear shock top 11 clicks left. Start by click all the way to the right, go slow and do not click passed the last click. Stock setting are in the owners manual if you want to reset. It made a world of difference for me. Did the Switzerland trail in CO both stock (bailed cause suspension too soft) and with the above adjustments. Owned the trail with np with the adjustments.
Brake did a great bit on suspension options for the T7 (Expensive vs Mid-Range vs Cheap Suspension Mods | The T7 Project EP #003). While you are in there you might consider both the spring and piston update from K-Tech (one of the three options mentioned in that bit). The range is actually pretty good, but the giant reserve so many of these bikes run ends up giving you range anxiety.
I am really trying not to sink thousands into this bike. I have seen everything Llell Pavey has done to his bikes and others on Brake. I am in the process of changing springs out. For an about average rider like myself, I am not sure I would get everything out of the big suspension upgrades. Great mods though.
@@advmattI feel the same way, I probably won’t use the suspension to its fullest but I believe it will keep me out of trouble and save my 57 year old a$$.
That’s quite the tease at the end there! As a current KLR rider looking to upgrade to a twin, the T7 is on my short list. I might have to wait a bit longer until your next reviews drop! Thanks, as always.
Good review or the bike, I had a 2021 that I rode across the USA twice last year, and the back roads of AZ. I sold it for a Vstrom but I regretted it and just picked up a 2022 same as yours with the Yamaha racks and boxes. Fuel range was my biggest issue, and plan to put an Acerbis 6 gallon tank in natural color on the bike, I like the blue tank but hate the limited range more. Tubeless was next so I will go the Barttubeless on the rear and leave the easier to change tube tire on front. My Vstrom1050 has cruise, but I rarely use it, a throttle lock works fine for me. Cruise is Meh, to me, I'm not a cruise control dependent rider. A 16 tooth countershaft sprocket will get you better mileage on the highway by bringing down the RPM and does not hut the low-end performance that much. I will be riding my new T-ray across the USA again this year and love the comfort and lay out. Never had a linkage issue, a lot of MX bike I have owned have the linkage as the lowest point, it gets hit now and then but never an issue. Thanks for the report.
You have put a lot a miles on your T7s. That's impressive. For me it was the 450+ mile days I was riding on this bike that wore me out on it. I get one week a month to go wherever I can. I choose to get out of the cold which meant a few really long days. It was exhausting and my right arm and shoulder felt tensed up all day. I admire riders like yourself that ride huge miles on this bike. I was thinking of dropping the rear sprocket a couple of teeth instead of the front, if I can find one. After more offroad riding the stock gearing seems off to me, first seems to short and second seems to tall. On rocky roads that I wanted to roll slowly through first had too much bite and I had to use the clutch a lot in second, so hopefully a gear adjustment will help. Enjoy the new bike. The CP2 engine is amazing. Cheers.
Just check the service costs of the Tuareg before you jump ship from Yamaha! My local dealer is charging $1800+ for the 12k mile service. Most expensive was $2200! The Tuareg is the bike I want, just can’t justify those costs, and thats coming from a former Ducati and BMW rider! Lol Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Yeah, I have started looking into the ownership costs because I know it will be much steeper than the T7. Dang Euro bikes. Fun to ride but come at a premium. Cheers.
Twice as much and nearly twice as often as many other bikes in the class. I miss the days of $350 valve checks (and that was not that long ago). A few other gripes like fork shims smashed to bits after 600 miles of easy to moderate ADV riding, the shifter side pivot bolt snapping readily, and some reports of scorched cams (it will be interesting to see what mine look like this year). I am curious see what a second generation Tuareg could bring given how good the first one is (even a little bit of iteration would be welcome too).
@@williamb.6918 thanks for sharing the problems you have experienced and are aware of. I really need to do more research before making an emotional purchase.
Congratulations on the quality of your filming. Scenic backgrounds with varied settings. The lighting aspect is good and the audio is perfect. Adding those short on board segments breaks it up and your pace of delivery is good. Much better production than the vast majority of owners
Good video. I considered the T7 when I was looking for a lighter bike than my 2017 Africa Twin. I decided on the Transalp mostly because it felt so much lighter sitting on it and moving it around the show room. The T7 felt just as heavy as my AT. The Transalp felt almost as light as my DR 650. I will agree the T7 will probably handle a BDR better but fireroads are as much as I plan on now
Either bike can be really good for BDRs but if you felt better on the Transalp your experience will be better. Buy the bike that has that spark. Cheers.
I've had my T7 for a year & a half now--love the bike but I agree it should have cruise control. I have a throttle lock also, but it's a poor substitute for electronic version. I carry a fuel bladder when riding out west as I too don't feel comfortable with the fuel range. Nice how you use the San Rafael Valley as your video backdrop--love riding there!
Mods to consider, Acerbis clear tank, you can see the fuel level at a glance and no need to carry a fuel bladder. Looks good and you can go over 230 miles before hitting reserve. 2wheel dynoworks ECU remap makes the motor pull much stronger from 3 thousand rpm on up and gets rid of any twitchy feel truly transforms the bike. Better springs is a must but the next level is Ohlins cartridge kit up front and rear shock. Camel ADV rear brake kit also. And why I am spending your money a seat concepts upgrade.
All great modifications. I am trying really hard not to dump a bunch of money into this bike. I found keeping the RPMs up and riding in a lower gear kept the snatchy throttle away. New springs install in progress. As I continue my journey on this bike I will consider all of these. Cheers.
2 years and 20k on the T7. Honestly the engine doesn't mind being at lower RPMs. If you are doing technical riding, sure, keep it high, but for dirt travel etc I always click it in to 6 and just use it there. There is an 'ECO' badge as well on the display. The worst for me is the windscreen and the buffeting though. Everyone complains about cruise, but there are no cruise on any Yamaha CP2. Bike is top heavy, when you have to pick her up 😅 That being said, I've went over some CLIBBINS a few times and haven't broken anything yet, thanks Outback motortek. Solid bike
Always think If Paul Tarres didn’t break a linkage and there is no report of anyone on the forums that did you may just caused that rock locking device for yourself…😂 I think it’s a 1 in a million incident and you shouldn’t make any hasty decision based on it. Thanks for sharing 🙏
You might be right. I will see what happens riding over rocks in the next few trips to see if it happens again. I haven't seen Paul Tarres riding rock gardens, just sending his T7 up and off of ledges.
I have watched many many videos of BDR rides on the T7 and Ride Adventures has a fleet of them with hundreds of thousands of (combined) miles all with no issues concerning the rear linkage. You are the first person I have heard complain about it.
@@michiganmoto7687 I was thinking about that too. Those links have to be taking a beating. There is no way the linkage is not taking rocks if it's not protected. I have seen a few others mention the linkage hanging low. I doubt I am only the only person who has had a rock flip up into it. Maybe I am over thinking it.
@@advmatt I’m sure it does make contact and I certainly would want a skid plate that has linkage guard also, but I would worry that would get bent up and interfere with linkage performance. I just haven’t seen it reported as a matter of concern from long term owners. Unless it’s being glossed over or just accepted as normal wear and tear (which I doubt given how critical reviewers tend to be) it hasn’t seemed to affect long term reliability. If you keep it for any length of time I will be curious to see your further reports on this. I’ve been a fan of your content and value your opinions. Happy riding Matt. ✌️
Rode a stock Tenere, and a factory lowered one again this past weekend at a Rally. The lowered version really changes the bike with my 30" inseam. I bottomed out both bikes in the sand pit, so the extra height of stock is not much help anyway! - Frank
The stock suspension is soggy. Just upgraded the springs on mine. Heading to Big Bend NP this afternoon to test it out, and finish of the Tusk 2track tires. Report coming in a few weeks.
Hey Matt, love your videos and your take on things. Interesting details on the linkage - I haven’t paid much attention to that. I don’t own a T7, but I’ve ridden many hwy miles and dirt roads on one. I’ve had a short stint in true off-road (steep, loose single track). My only hesitation to switching out my dr650 is the top heavy weight when it gets technical, otherwise I love this bike. I didn’t find the fuel mileage that bad, but likely because I’m used to the small stock tank of the DR and always carry fuel. Long story short, this is one of my top choice s for the everything bike. Thanks again for sharing your experiences. Ride safe. - Geoff
Thanks for the feedback. For most forest roads the T7 is a great bike, and for most of what I ride it works. There are just a few situations where it can become a handful. Don't hesitate to turn around if it gets ugly and this bike should be really good. It is great to ride. The CP2 engine is a blast.
I was able to ride a well farkled Transalp today in South Carolina sand and mud. The Tenere was just moved to #3 in mid-sized for me. Tuareg Transalp Tenere
@@advmatt I was fortunate enough to ride one nicely farkled, in mud and sand. It had a hoigh exhaust installed and a durable skidplate. The suspension was Honda soft, but not bad. If I owned one, I would want to replace the springs with ones for my weight, as I did with my CRF250L. Coming from a Tuareg or Tenrere, the fairings are WIDE, which I imagine is nice on the highway. I only road it offroad and found it a blast. - Frank
HAHA! Everything you were saying about the T7 was making me answer Tuareg 660. I just picked up a used Tuareg, and I'm super impressed with it. A great upgrade from the ADV 390, which I still have. The sound of the bike is awesome! The ride is great and wonderful features. Definitely a bigger bike on technical trails than the 390, but such is the world. The dealership network and possible parts availability is my only concerns, but with such a great bike I'm hoping Aprilia grows here in the states.
I am with you. I am willing to make the offroad trade from the 390 for long distance comfort. Now that I have a dealership in town I am more willing to make the leap.
I recently bought a used fully stock 2023 T7 with only 2k miles lastfall. Suspension was the very ugly for me, ended up buying a rally raid setup... maybe a bit overkill, but it does very well off road now. Bad, the 4 gallon gas tank... the CP2 engine gets really thirsty in the high revs. Im sure ill be find with maybe a extra gallon tank strapped to the bike for now. The good, so much good with the T7. I find it to be a great 50/50 on/off road bike.
The suspension is a problem for most riders. I am replacing springs to keep it budget friendly. The CP2 is so much fun. I am carrying extra fuel too. Do what you have to do. There is a lot to like about this bike, but a few things that are ugly.
Suspension is number 1 on my list and then a higher screen. I will fit my Denali D4's when I get a chance. I hoped of a well modified Africa twin for the Tenere as its dimensions and weight give me more confidence on and off road
I upgraded the suspension and also made an easy modification to the windscreen to improve it. I tried to keep the modifications budget oriented. Here is a link to a video I did on the suspension. th-cam.com/video/5Olf6VBVyx4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6CeUlBabJr63pMrX Here is a link for one of way of improving the windscreen and not spending a fortune. th-cam.com/video/YRIPWSrwOvo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=g8iKForb15tGQet3
I upgraded my suspension with just stiffer springs front and rear. cruise control would be nice of course but throttle lock is good enough to rest hand for a bit. fuel range is on par with any bike that doesn't have a extra large tank(such as Africa Twin Adventure sport). I also carry fuel bladder if i know stops are close to the 200mile mark. I have the AXP skid plate that covers rear linkage haven't had any issues with it when going over logs or rocks yet. Review is pretty on par though with the general consensus! lol Like you said you have to try it out for yourself to see if you'll like it. T7 sells a big dream but not everyone is Pol Tarres!
Well said. It sells big dreams. My KTM 390 Adv has better fuel range, I was hoping the T7 would be close, but it is not. The CP2 engine is so muchbfun it kind of covers up some of these issues.
@@advmattmy prior bike to my t7 is a rally raid cb500x (same idea as ktm390 lol) it sipped on fuel too. but i'm sure you were like me as soon as you test drove the t7 you traded in the same day.
@@Jeredsmith I still have my 390 Adv. I was living in two different places at the same time and needed bikes in both places. I still enjoy riding the 390 but the T7 has became my go to bike for sure. Cheers.
You're getting a Tuareg? Really looking forward to hearing your comparison between the 2 bikes since I never test road the Tenere before purchasing my Tuareg.
I am planning on it. Just don't know when or how right now. I want to keep both bikes for a bit. The Tuareg blew me away in almost every way. The CP2 engine in the Tenere is pretty dang good but overall the bike is missing key pieces for me.
I have 27000 miles, and I am getting anywhere from 55mpg to 57mpg and ride at 5500 rpm and higher. Maybe over time, you may get better gas mileage. I agree with having a cruise control. Also if you are going to keep it for long term I would invest in some tubeless wheels like the Alpine's. I know they are expensive, but it sure is nice to be able to have a set for traveling and street riding and a set for dirt ripping. Have fun with it and ride hard.
I am hoping after a few more thousand miles the gas mileage will improve. Maybe its a break-in thing. I looked at those tubeless tires. Ouch, those are expensive. If I do that I might as well add the McCruise while I am at it. I have another week long trip next week to Big Bend NP so I will get some more saddle time to learn the bike. I really like the CP2 engine. Its a ripper. Cheers.
Interesting how each of our perceptions are different. I owned a T7 for about 5000 miles and thought it was the worst bike I have ever owned in the wind. I mean from a cross wind perspective. I would get a sudden gust of wind that would blow me so hard it felt dangerous. I have had 8 other ADV bikes, and even my light WR250R and CRF300L Rally do not catch wind like this bike. I was also fine with the suspension and fuel range. To each his own experience . . . . Cheers for your thoughts,
The impression of a bike is very subjective. Coming off of a KTM 390 Adventure the road manners on this bike are much better, nothing like the R1200GS I owned but better. I am not in love with this bike, it has some warts for sure. I might hit the 5000 mile plateau as well.
Just found your channel, really enjoyed the video. As a T660 owner who also admires the T700, I can see things are going to get interesting. Can you please tell us what the side bags are on your crash bars? Thank you!
Things are going to get real interesting between these bikes. I have some choices to make. The side bags are Armorain six liter bags. Here is a link to the ones I am using. amzn.to/3TJ4Fsd
a missing cruise control is just a bit of inconvenience but not a bad thing, drive by wire has absolute not the same feedback like cable operated throttle. You are the first person who is complaining about the locked linkage, but I guess thats your bash plate you fitted. Have fun with the T7
I am surprised no one has busted a linkage with a rock flipping up or smashing into a log crossing. I don't ride crazy stuff and get rocks flipped up and caught underneath the bash plate frequent enough it's a concern. Throttle by wire does feel different than cable. The T7 throttle return spring is heavy and after eight to 10 hours in the saddle my right arm is killing me. I have to rethink how I travel on this bike. I don't think I am capable of riding big miles day after day on this bike like have done on others to get to cool back country locations.
Purchased a new 24 T7 a couple weeks ago. So far, here my good, bad, and ugly... Bad would be the stock tires. I dont have a lot of confidence in the front bite on loose gravel with the scorpions. Also wish it had the 6.2 fuel tank from the factory. My bike is black, i am on the fence about purchasing the larger tank. I also wish the gas cap was attached. I dont like that it comes all the way off the tank. The only ugly so far is the ABS. I wish you could turn it off and leave it off. The fact that it all turns back on every time you re-start the bike is dangerous. I believe if someone was not thinking about it, they could get in real trouble off-road. Other then that I really like everything about it so far. Question, what bags did you go with and why? I am looking at the Tusk Highland X2's or the Giant Loop Coyote. Interested in your thoughts.
The Scorpion tires are awful anytime you get off of pavement. On pavement they are great, but not off. I have left the ABS on a few times and I have not had a run away situation, yet, like I experienced on my F800GS, but I do understand where you are coming from. As for bags, I built my own DIY setup. I will leave a link for the video. I really liked how they worked on this trip. I only paid about $225 for the entire setup so I can't expect a whole lot out of it. One of the saddlebags starting coming apart at the seam and Rhinowalk will not respond to me for warranty. Overall, I am really pleased with how my DIY setup worked. If you are looking to do something yourself, use some creativity and see what you come up with. Here is the video th-cam.com/video/Wwc_h3yEFi0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=t2EXSCu3tAu2innr
Mine is too tall for me, but I will adapt. I have had quite a few tall bikes. A lot of people think to lower the bike as a first mod. I would advise against that. Instead just keep riding it as if a modification doesn’t exist. You will adapt. In a month or two you will not even think about it. Muscle memory will take over.
@@Nine_883 I agree with you when riding dirt bikes. I haven't found that to be the case with loaded adventure bikes. The one bike I had that I could only touch with one foot down I dropped all the time. I was not able to dab very easily or catch it. Bikes that I could more easily touch found the ground much less. It was likely due to my poor riding ability.
@@advmatt I guess you and I are built different. I was riding a CT70 when I was 6. I am 54 now. I have been on two wheels my whole life. I just get used to it. Two up could be a problem, but my old lady will lower it quite a bit just through gravity.
@@Nine_883 yeah, I think we are different. I didn't start riding until I was 12, with breaks between riding years, up to the last decade. You have the experience to handle the tall bike. I expect you will enjoy it.
@@advmatt I am just saying I don’t want to compromise the ground clearance. I don’t want to modify the bike under warranty. For me right now I can live with the inconvenience. It’s not going to help on a single track. Even if I lower it I will still not really be able to get a foot planted enough to manhandle this bike. Not that this bike can be man handled anyway. I would break my leg trying to save it. Just got to try stay upright my friend. 😃.
The Aprilia was a want for me, but the dealer is 3hours away around Chicago. My 390 will have to do unless i win the lottery. Puting a cruise on the 390 now because the midwest is full of long straight roads.
@@advmatt I had a wire not seated in one of my plugs. Emailed a photo to veridian to see if I could get a new harness. 7 minutes later I had an apology email and a order invoice email with the new harness. I dong get it until April 2nd, but you can't beat that customer support
Ive test rode the T7 and really liked it but have really been concerned about the range and would hate that the fuel light comes on early. Im more of a road and light off road rider and have been looking for a Transalp but they are hard to find without a high markup.
I hear you. I really thought the fuel range would be fine and it wouldn't bother me but that is not the case. Good luck finding a Transalp. They seem really great. Hopefully it will be close to home.
@@RugerM77 I'm in Maryland and have talked to a couple dealers and they are marking the bike up to high. The one dealer gave me a fair price but I hesitated and the bike was sold. My problem is I can buy out of state from a hub dealer and there is no extra BS charges and markup but they don't have the Honda. I can get the T7 or de800 at MSRP out the door. I'll pay 2k more for the Transalp.
@@jimh2061 I just recently bought the Tuareg 660. I previously had a T7 and it was too tall for me. It was between the 660 and the 800DE. The Tuareg just offered so much more for almost the same cost.
Interesting what you say about wind, i have a ninja 650 which is way low to the ground, an when on the tenere its so tall an the fairings are flat so it feels like im really getn thrown around by the wind
I can see that, for sure. Coming off my 390 Adventure, which was very light, comparatively speaking, this bike feels much better. I hit some awful winds though, that nearly blew me off the road several times.
Good video.. don't know about many of the issues.. under sprung is week one, week two but certainly never ignored before going loaded on any trip!! And it should be but yet another message that manufacturers are not listening to.. American riders are 180-220lbs and some gear and stock suspension on most bikes is for a 160 pound person..all of the bikes are dishonest and set up for 90-10 and the 10% off road is dirt roads and nothing technical.. the fuel range is an issue on this bike and others.. and Yamaha is the only answer, they only made 4 colors and a metal tank w a gallon+ more at $450-600 bucks wouldn't make sense . the tanks that are backwards engineered usually are decent but Yamaha could make something much easier and better than anyone else. Cruise control issue is solved on latest model I think.. but bikes simplicity was part of it's appeal.. bigger windshield, heated grips, cruise control, better LCD, lowering linkage, and additional fuel capacity keep pushing the price and horsepower needs and they are already building the 900cc triple that was super good seller on the road.. have a feeling that the 900 is going to be popular also.. the T7 sort of made Yamaha stop at the lower bores and they still should make a WR450 or 500..in my opinion.. but the entire sector is becoming saturated!!! CFMoto,Kove and some others all 800-400cc
Just put a stronger bash plate on it as for fuel it is what it is youl just have to carry extra fuel and plan fuel stops, it sure has the power for touring
The engine is perfect for just about everything. I do carry extra fuel now if I don't know the availability. I have the Outback Motortek bash guard. It should work. I just don't find this bike to be comfortable for 400 to 500 mile days. I have limited time and need to travel long distances to get where I want to be, creating long days. I am whining about the smallest of issues, I know. Cheers.
@@chiptaxfree I made it myself. Here is the video describing what I did. I can send you a template. th-cam.com/video/YRIPWSrwOvo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KJZ5wHFpdT7oHzge
Sorry dude. You will see comments below from other riders that have learned to deal with the ugly bits of this bike. The fuel issue is really challenging in the Southwest were stations can be 100s of miles apart. The linkage doesn't seem to be a problem, there aren't reports of broken links, but it makes me nervous. The extra plate is taking a beating already.
@@advmatt I tried the Touareg the other day and it seemed to me a good alternative to the T7 because it looks pretty alike and it was a bit lower vs lighter
@@user-Podcast-Canada it has more features to offer, like a larger gas tank and the suspension linkage doesn't sit below the bottom of the frame. Oh yeah, electronics like cruise control.... huge bonus.
The tank has been full at every gas station stop, I think it's around 4.2 gallons or 16 liters. The fuel light comes on around 130 to 140 miles. My fuel consumption has been averaging 45 to 50 mpg.
For distance, and especially in high wind, yes. If I was only riding offroad I would still take the 390, but the T7 is a close second. I don't ride crazy offroad stuff so I can get away with a heavier bike. There are pros and cons to both bikes. I am going to cover them soon.
I don't know. Right now no, but it isn't getting ridden much. Partly because I took on a tire test that I wasn't expecting. I had planned to ride the KTM to Big Bend NP, but now I need to continue testing the Tusk 2Track on the Tenere. I want to get it to 30k miles this summer. One week long trip should get me close. Long term, I am not sure what will happen.
@@advmatt I’m glad to hear a good report on the Yamaha. You seemed a little unsure about it in the past. I’ve heard generally very favorable reports from other owners. I was curious about the Tenere but at the time I was looking to upgrade from my WR, the T7 was impossible to find and a lot more expensive than the KTM. I don’t regret buying the 390 but I’ve always been curious about the T7. Glad you are enjoying yours.
@@advmattHi. You should try the KTM 790 adventure: luxurious, comfy and easy to ride. I’ve just ridden my first 900 km in the past two weeks, and find it rides excellent on and off road (easy dirt roads): stable, smooth, very controllable.
Dear brother kindly suggest me Which is Best option for one Time investment choices are R1300Gs, Africa twin, Tenere 700 iam from India🇮🇳 6feet taller age is 42
The engine on the T7 is exceptionally robust and will accommodate everyone’s riding style, but common sense dictates with the business of fuel economy, riding high up the rev range is unnecessary if you want to cover distance, unless of course the desire is to mimic the Dakar, which of course is pointless. All the reports of the original T7 point out the soft suspension, if intending to travel fully loaded and you know beforehand the suspension isn’t geared for that, isn’t that a fault of the owner rather than the bike. Rear linkage …. These bikes have been abused by their owners off-road in all conditions, including rocky terrain yet this happens to be the only video commenting negatively. Is this a case of creating a crisis out of a simple one off drama or simply making a video for the sake of maintaining the income stream. Nothing new, exciting or interesting came out of this 11.35 minute video that hasn’t been covered literally hundreds of times already. If you intend to cover major distances, solo, fully laden you must expect to modify the bike, especially one that is built for simplicity, at a price leaving scope for the rider to adapt the machine to suit the job expected of it. The business of cruise control is a personal preference not a fault or “bad” element of the bike. It would appear that by choosing the Tenere7, it was a life choice gone wrong perhaps.
@@andycapp3867 yes, choosing the Tenere was a life choice gone wrong. Thanks for commenting, it helps my channel! I have tried to like this bike, but I just haven't been able to, except for the engine. The rest is meh.
I have been riding a KTM 390 Adventure for the past three years. In comparison the T7 provides a better road riding experience with more power and better road presence, especially in the wind. For a 21/18 wheel combo it doesn't do too bad in canyons either, in comparison. The T7 is a very balanced bike which surprised me. I grew weary riding my R1200GS for many reasons. I don't disagree the T7 has a reputation bigger than it can deliver.
Dear brother kindly suggest me which is one time investment to Buy Legendary adventure bike choices are R1300Gs, Africa twin and This Tenere 700" Your feedback please🙏 from India🇮🇳
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Coming from a GS after 60 000 km of touring on all types of terrain, I find the T7 the best bike ever built. Its beauty is in its simplicity. You can tour on it, but you can also ride off-ride like a beast. No fear, 100% confidence. And that is all because of the bike, not my experience. I sorted the fuel challenge by fixing a 2l fuel canister on either side of the engine protection bars, inside a durable offroad crash bar bag. Now I ride with enough surety that I will not run out of fuel. The weight is nice and low so that it does not interfere with the dynamics and balance. BEST BIKE EVER BUILT!
It is a well built bike with proven reliability. Smart move with the extra fuel down low. That will help the balance of the bike. I miss some of the creatures comforts from the GS though. Maybe it will grow on me.
Really liking your vids Matt. Short and to the point. Thanks for posting.
Thanks. I really appreciate the feedback. More to come with tires and another bike... test anyway.
You will always learn a lot on a long trip. About yourself, the bike, and your gear. I have over 50k on my T7 and have no desire for another bike, it just works. There are improvements that can be made (especially suspension) but not many are truly needed.
Agreed, but for the long road miles I find this bike to be a chore to ride. If I stayed offroad all the time this would be the perfect bike. It's nit picky but the return spring on the throttle seems heavy to me. Hour after hour on the road and my shoulder, wrist and elbow start getting fatigued, even with a throttle lock. You have certainly proven it is a capable long distance bike, just not sure it is for me. I sorted the suspension and it made a huge difference. Cheers.
That fuel bladder is just so easy to carry.
I've used it in patagonia for fuel insurance
It's a no-brainer and very little hassle
Super easy. I was really happy with it. It tucks away so easily.
Try putting a larger sprocket up front. One more tooth did it for me. It drops the rpm’s 4 to 500 on the Hwy for a little better mileage and still has great power for anything off-road. Stock chain works fine with the change.
Great suggestion, I need to look into it. The engine has plenty offroad. Thanks.
Really glad you’re enjoying that bike. I remember commenting on your video where you said you were a little nonplussed by the whole thing. I had a feeling the more time you spend on it the more you would enjoy it. I have 25,000 on mine, and have done mostly off-road on it. I did beef up my suspension and put quite a few other of the standard upgrades to make it how I wanted but I think the bike is one of the best all around you could ever purchase and it’s also extremely reliable, which is a huge plus. Well done bro. Nice video.
Thanks. In the video I dropped a hint that another bike has caught my eye. The T7 reliability is hard to beat, but with more long distance in a short period trips I really miss cruise control and tubeless tires. For now, I am going to wringe out the CP2.
I have the white red T7 and put the Clear Acerbic Tank on, it's lighter than stock so the extra fuel sort of balances out a fair bit. When I filled it first time I marked it in 2Litre increments, Can get about 24 litres in it, and do 500km in a pinch. No fuel anxiety now as you can see exactly what range you have left, about 40 safe km per mark. Love the bike, only top heavy when rolling around garage and stopped in bad terrain. As you know once your rolling that all goes away and feels more stable and confidence inspiring than my old wr250r.
That is a lot of range. If I stick with this bike I will need to seriously consider this mod.
@@advmattIf you do, I also bought the locking acerbic fuel cap, mainly because it has no breather hose, so your tank bag can sit on it. Bloody expensive upgrade here is AUS. $700 for the tank, $70 for the cap. Worth it so far, no mucking around with bladders, and if you're not going too far dont fill it up. 😁
Thanks for the video! I know it's old and you already updated your springs. However, for those that do not want to update your springs, you can adjust the suspension. For me, I'm 190lbs, I did top forks 14 clicks left, bottom forks 8 clicks left, rear shock bottom 10 clicks left, rear shock top 11 clicks left. Start by click all the way to the right, go slow and do not click passed the last click. Stock setting are in the owners manual if you want to reset. It made a world of difference for me. Did the Switzerland trail in CO both stock (bailed cause suspension too soft) and with the above adjustments. Owned the trail with np with the adjustments.
@@timesink101 thanks for sharing your settings. I weigh quite a bit more, I couldn't get proper sag with stock springs.
Nice to see you and your videos out west again.
It's good to be back. So many unique places to visit.
Brake did a great bit on suspension options for the T7 (Expensive vs Mid-Range vs Cheap Suspension Mods | The T7 Project EP #003). While you are in there you might consider both the spring and piston update from K-Tech (one of the three options mentioned in that bit). The range is actually pretty good, but the giant reserve so many of these bikes run ends up giving you range anxiety.
I am really trying not to sink thousands into this bike. I have seen everything Llell Pavey has done to his bikes and others on Brake. I am in the process of changing springs out. For an about average rider like myself, I am not sure I would get everything out of the big suspension upgrades. Great mods though.
@@advmatt Just another $549 for the front and rear piston kit. Suspension can be a bit of a bottomless pit though :).
@@advmattI feel the same way, I probably won’t use the suspension to its fullest but I believe it will keep me out of trouble and save my 57 year old a$$.
That’s quite the tease at the end there! As a current KLR rider looking to upgrade to a twin, the T7 is on my short list. I might have to wait a bit longer until your next reviews drop! Thanks, as always.
My Tuareg test ride will post in about two weeks. I really like this bike. It threw a wrench into my bike plans for sure.
@@advmatt good problems to have I suppose. Looking forward to the review!
Good review or the bike, I had a 2021 that I rode across the USA twice last year, and the back roads of AZ. I sold it for a Vstrom but I regretted it and just picked up a 2022 same as yours with the Yamaha racks and boxes. Fuel range was my biggest issue, and plan to put an Acerbis 6 gallon tank in natural color on the bike, I like the blue tank but hate the limited range more. Tubeless was next so I will go the Barttubeless on the rear and leave the easier to change tube tire on front. My Vstrom1050 has cruise, but I rarely use it, a throttle lock works fine for me. Cruise is Meh, to me, I'm not a cruise control dependent rider. A 16 tooth countershaft sprocket will get you better mileage on the highway by bringing down the RPM and does not hut the low-end performance that much. I will be riding my new T-ray across the USA again this year and love the comfort and lay out. Never had a linkage issue, a lot of MX bike I have owned have the linkage as the lowest point, it gets hit now and then but never an issue. Thanks for the report.
You have put a lot a miles on your T7s. That's impressive. For me it was the 450+ mile days I was riding on this bike that wore me out on it. I get one week a month to go wherever I can. I choose to get out of the cold which meant a few really long days. It was exhausting and my right arm and shoulder felt tensed up all day. I admire riders like yourself that ride huge miles on this bike. I was thinking of dropping the rear sprocket a couple of teeth instead of the front, if I can find one. After more offroad riding the stock gearing seems off to me, first seems to short and second seems to tall. On rocky roads that I wanted to roll slowly through first had too much bite and I had to use the clutch a lot in second, so hopefully a gear adjustment will help. Enjoy the new bike. The CP2 engine is amazing. Cheers.
thanks for the detailed review. It's nice to see someone fully review a bike.
Thanks.
Just check the service costs of the Tuareg before you jump ship from Yamaha! My local dealer is charging $1800+ for the 12k mile service. Most expensive was $2200! The Tuareg is the bike I want, just can’t justify those costs, and thats coming from a former Ducati and BMW rider! Lol
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Yeah, I have started looking into the ownership costs because I know it will be much steeper than the T7. Dang Euro bikes. Fun to ride but come at a premium. Cheers.
Twice as much and nearly twice as often as many other bikes in the class. I miss the days of $350 valve checks (and that was not that long ago). A few other gripes like fork shims smashed to bits after 600 miles of easy to moderate ADV riding, the shifter side pivot bolt snapping readily, and some reports of scorched cams (it will be interesting to see what mine look like this year). I am curious see what a second generation Tuareg could bring given how good the first one is (even a little bit of iteration would be welcome too).
@@williamb.6918 thanks for sharing the problems you have experienced and are aware of. I really need to do more research before making an emotional purchase.
just pick up my 2024 a few weeks ago.. planning to go to the Mogollon Rim end of august.. stoked.. great video thank you
@@The_MotoRebel awesome. Great area to ride!
Congratulations on the quality of your filming. Scenic backgrounds with varied settings. The lighting aspect is good and the audio is perfect. Adding those short on board segments breaks it up and your pace of delivery is good. Much better production than the vast majority of owners
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. I really try to find unique and cool places to film from.
The gas cap is ungodly dumb. T7rally from the UK has a cnc flip mod . Super well made & worth ordering.
I need to take a look at that. Sounds good.
The fuel cap & lack of cruise control are my only complaints owning a 2023 T7. Enjoy the ride! Iming look forward to upcoming videos.
Good video. I considered the T7 when I was looking for a lighter bike than my 2017 Africa Twin. I decided on the Transalp mostly because it felt so much lighter sitting on it and moving it around the show room. The T7 felt just as heavy as my AT. The Transalp felt almost as light as my DR 650. I will agree the T7 will probably handle a BDR better but fireroads are as much as I plan on now
Either bike can be really good for BDRs but if you felt better on the Transalp your experience will be better. Buy the bike that has that spark. Cheers.
I've had my T7 for a year & a half now--love the bike but I agree it should have cruise control. I have a throttle lock also, but it's a poor substitute for electronic version. I carry a fuel bladder when riding out west as I too don't feel comfortable with the fuel range. Nice how you use the San Rafael Valley as your video backdrop--love riding there!
Never leave home without a gas bag.... well and a fuel bladder too. It was really fantastic riding.
Mods to consider, Acerbis clear tank, you can see the fuel level at a glance and no need to carry a fuel bladder. Looks good and you can go over 230 miles before hitting reserve.
2wheel dynoworks ECU remap makes the motor pull much stronger from 3 thousand rpm on up and gets rid of any twitchy feel truly transforms the bike.
Better springs is a must but the next level is Ohlins cartridge kit up front and rear shock.
Camel ADV rear brake kit also. And why I am spending your money a seat concepts upgrade.
All great modifications. I am trying really hard not to dump a bunch of money into this bike. I found keeping the RPMs up and riding in a lower gear kept the snatchy throttle away. New springs install in progress. As I continue my journey on this bike I will consider all of these. Cheers.
2 years and 20k on the T7. Honestly the engine doesn't mind being at lower RPMs. If you are doing technical riding, sure, keep it high, but for dirt travel etc I always click it in to 6 and just use it there. There is an 'ECO' badge as well on the display.
The worst for me is the windscreen and the buffeting though.
Everyone complains about cruise, but there are no cruise on any Yamaha CP2.
Bike is top heavy, when you have to pick her up 😅
That being said, I've went over some CLIBBINS a few times and haven't broken anything yet, thanks Outback motortek. Solid bike
It's a reliable bike for sure. The CP2 engine is really fun and easy to ride.
Always think
If Paul Tarres didn’t break a linkage and there is no report of anyone on the forums that did you may just caused that rock locking device for yourself…😂
I think it’s a 1 in a million incident and you shouldn’t make any hasty decision based on it.
Thanks for sharing 🙏
You might be right. I will see what happens riding over rocks in the next few trips to see if it happens again. I haven't seen Paul Tarres riding rock gardens, just sending his T7 up and off of ledges.
@@advmatt 😝
I have watched many many videos of BDR rides on the T7 and Ride Adventures has a fleet of them with hundreds of thousands of (combined) miles all with no issues concerning the rear linkage. You are the first person I have heard complain about it.
@@michiganmoto7687 I was thinking about that too. Those links have to be taking a beating. There is no way the linkage is not taking rocks if it's not protected. I have seen a few others mention the linkage hanging low. I doubt I am only the only person who has had a rock flip up into it. Maybe I am over thinking it.
@@advmatt I’m sure it does make contact and I certainly would want a skid plate that has linkage guard also, but I would worry that would get bent up and interfere with linkage performance. I just haven’t seen it reported as a matter of concern from long term owners. Unless it’s being glossed over or just accepted as normal wear and tear (which I doubt given how critical reviewers tend to be) it hasn’t seemed to affect long term reliability. If you keep it for any length of time I will be curious to see your further reports on this. I’ve been a fan of your content and value your opinions. Happy riding Matt. ✌️
My buddy Cheyenne added the secondary tank that attaches to the left side on the back. Fits below his pannier racks. Very slick. - Frank
I have seen those. Not cheap.
@@advmatt I bet, it looks OEM, very well integrated. - Frank
Rode a stock Tenere, and a factory lowered one again this past weekend at a Rally. The lowered version really changes the bike with my 30" inseam. I bottomed out both bikes in the sand pit, so the extra height of stock is not much help anyway! - Frank
The stock suspension is soggy. Just upgraded the springs on mine. Heading to Big Bend NP this afternoon to test it out, and finish of the Tusk 2track tires. Report coming in a few weeks.
Hey Matt, love your videos and your take on things.
Interesting details on the linkage - I haven’t paid much attention to that.
I don’t own a T7, but I’ve ridden many hwy miles and dirt roads on one.
I’ve had a short stint in true off-road (steep, loose single track).
My only hesitation to switching out my dr650 is the top heavy weight when it gets technical, otherwise I love this bike.
I didn’t find the fuel mileage that bad, but likely because I’m used to the small stock tank of the DR and always carry fuel.
Long story short, this is one of my top choice s for the everything bike.
Thanks again for sharing your experiences. Ride safe. - Geoff
Thanks for the feedback. For most forest roads the T7 is a great bike, and for most of what I ride it works. There are just a few situations where it can become a handful. Don't hesitate to turn around if it gets ugly and this bike should be really good. It is great to ride. The CP2 engine is a blast.
I was able to ride a well farkled Transalp today in South Carolina sand and mud.
The Tenere was just moved to #3 in mid-sized for me.
Tuareg
Transalp
Tenere
Told yah it's good
I need to test ride the Transalp.
@@advmatt I was fortunate enough to ride one nicely farkled, in mud and sand. It had a hoigh exhaust installed and a durable skidplate. The suspension was Honda soft, but not bad. If I owned one, I would want to replace the springs with ones for my weight, as I did with my CRF250L. Coming from a Tuareg or Tenrere, the fairings are WIDE, which I imagine is nice on the highway. I only road it offroad and found it a blast. - Frank
HAHA! Everything you were saying about the T7 was making me answer Tuareg 660. I just picked up a used Tuareg, and I'm super impressed with it. A great upgrade from the ADV 390, which I still have. The sound of the bike is awesome! The ride is great and wonderful features. Definitely a bigger bike on technical trails than the 390, but such is the world.
The dealership network and possible parts availability is my only concerns, but with such a great bike I'm hoping Aprilia grows here in the states.
I am with you. I am willing to make the offroad trade from the 390 for long distance comfort. Now that I have a dealership in town I am more willing to make the leap.
I recently bought a used fully stock 2023 T7 with only 2k miles lastfall. Suspension was the very ugly for me, ended up buying a rally raid setup... maybe a bit overkill, but it does very well off road now. Bad, the 4 gallon gas tank... the CP2 engine gets really thirsty in the high revs. Im sure ill be find with maybe a extra gallon tank strapped to the bike for now. The good, so much good with the T7. I find it to be a great 50/50 on/off road bike.
The suspension is a problem for most riders. I am replacing springs to keep it budget friendly. The CP2 is so much fun. I am carrying extra fuel too. Do what you have to do. There is a lot to like about this bike, but a few things that are ugly.
Great info. Thank you!
Suspension is number 1 on my list and then a higher screen. I will fit my Denali D4's when I get a chance. I hoped of a well modified Africa twin for the Tenere as its dimensions and weight give me more confidence on and off road
I upgraded the suspension and also made an easy modification to the windscreen to improve it. I tried to keep the modifications budget oriented.
Here is a link to a video I did on the suspension. th-cam.com/video/5Olf6VBVyx4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6CeUlBabJr63pMrX
Here is a link for one of way of improving the windscreen and not spending a fortune.
th-cam.com/video/YRIPWSrwOvo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=g8iKForb15tGQet3
I upgraded my suspension with just stiffer springs front and rear. cruise control would be nice of course but throttle lock is good enough to rest hand for a bit. fuel range is on par with any bike that doesn't have a extra large tank(such as Africa Twin Adventure sport). I also carry fuel bladder if i know stops are close to the 200mile mark. I have the AXP skid plate that covers rear linkage haven't had any issues with it when going over logs or rocks yet. Review is pretty on par though with the general consensus! lol Like you said you have to try it out for yourself to see if you'll like it. T7 sells a big dream but not everyone is Pol Tarres!
Well said. It sells big dreams. My KTM 390 Adv has better fuel range, I was hoping the T7 would be close, but it is not. The CP2 engine is so muchbfun it kind of covers up some of these issues.
@@advmattmy prior bike to my t7 is a rally raid cb500x (same idea as ktm390 lol) it sipped on fuel too. but i'm sure you were like me as soon as you test drove the t7 you traded in the same day.
@@Jeredsmith I still have my 390 Adv. I was living in two different places at the same time and needed bikes in both places. I still enjoy riding the 390 but the T7 has became my go to bike for sure. Cheers.
You're getting a Tuareg? Really looking forward to hearing your comparison between the 2 bikes since I never test road the Tenere before purchasing my Tuareg.
I am planning on it. Just don't know when or how right now. I want to keep both bikes for a bit. The Tuareg blew me away in almost every way. The CP2 engine in the Tenere is pretty dang good but overall the bike is missing key pieces for me.
I have 27000 miles, and I am getting anywhere from 55mpg to 57mpg and ride at 5500 rpm and higher. Maybe over time, you may get better gas mileage. I agree with having a cruise control. Also if you are going to keep it for long term I would invest in some tubeless wheels like the Alpine's. I know they are expensive, but it sure is nice to be able to have a set for traveling and street riding and a set for dirt ripping. Have fun with it and ride hard.
I am hoping after a few more thousand miles the gas mileage will improve. Maybe its a break-in thing. I looked at those tubeless tires. Ouch, those are expensive. If I do that I might as well add the McCruise while I am at it. I have another week long trip next week to Big Bend NP so I will get some more saddle time to learn the bike. I really like the CP2 engine. Its a ripper. Cheers.
T7 is a beast. It just keep rolling :-)
It does keep rolling. The KLR of parallel twin adventure bikes.
Interesting how each of our perceptions are different. I owned a T7 for about 5000 miles and thought it was the worst bike I have ever owned in the wind. I mean from a cross wind perspective. I would get a sudden gust of wind that would blow me so hard it felt dangerous. I have had 8 other ADV bikes, and even my light WR250R and CRF300L Rally do not catch wind like this bike. I was also fine with the suspension and fuel range. To each his own experience . . . . Cheers for your thoughts,
The impression of a bike is very subjective. Coming off of a KTM 390 Adventure the road manners on this bike are much better, nothing like the R1200GS I owned but better. I am not in love with this bike, it has some warts for sure. I might hit the 5000 mile plateau as well.
Just found your channel, really enjoyed the video. As a T660 owner who also admires the T700, I can see things are going to get interesting. Can you please tell us what the side bags are on your crash bars? Thank you!
Things are going to get real interesting between these bikes. I have some choices to make. The side bags are Armorain six liter bags. Here is a link to the ones I am using. amzn.to/3TJ4Fsd
@@advmatt Thank you!
a missing cruise control is just a bit of inconvenience but not a bad thing, drive by wire has absolute not the same feedback like cable operated throttle. You are the first person who is complaining about the locked linkage, but I guess thats your bash plate you fitted. Have fun with the T7
I am surprised no one has busted a linkage with a rock flipping up or smashing into a log crossing. I don't ride crazy stuff and get rocks flipped up and caught underneath the bash plate frequent enough it's a concern. Throttle by wire does feel different than cable. The T7 throttle return spring is heavy and after eight to 10 hours in the saddle my right arm is killing me. I have to rethink how I travel on this bike. I don't think I am capable of riding big miles day after day on this bike like have done on others to get to cool back country locations.
thanx for the vid. Camel tank and never look back amigo!
I will take a look at those. Thanks for the recommendation.
Purchased a new 24 T7 a couple weeks ago. So far, here my good, bad, and ugly... Bad would be the stock tires. I dont have a lot of confidence in the front bite on loose gravel with the scorpions. Also wish it had the 6.2 fuel tank from the factory. My bike is black, i am on the fence about purchasing the larger tank. I also wish the gas cap was attached. I dont like that it comes all the way off the tank. The only ugly so far is the ABS. I wish you could turn it off and leave it off. The fact that it all turns back on every time you re-start the bike is dangerous. I believe if someone was not thinking about it, they could get in real trouble off-road. Other then that I really like everything about it so far. Question, what bags did you go with and why? I am looking at the Tusk Highland X2's or the Giant Loop Coyote. Interested in your thoughts.
The Scorpion tires are awful anytime you get off of pavement. On pavement they are great, but not off. I have left the ABS on a few times and I have not had a run away situation, yet, like I experienced on my F800GS, but I do understand where you are coming from. As for bags, I built my own DIY setup. I will leave a link for the video. I really liked how they worked on this trip. I only paid about $225 for the entire setup so I can't expect a whole lot out of it. One of the saddlebags starting coming apart at the seam and Rhinowalk will not respond to me for warranty. Overall, I am really pleased with how my DIY setup worked. If you are looking to do something yourself, use some creativity and see what you come up with. Here is the video th-cam.com/video/Wwc_h3yEFi0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=t2EXSCu3tAu2innr
Mine is too tall for me, but I will adapt. I have had quite a few tall bikes. A lot of people think to lower the bike as a first mod. I would advise against that. Instead just keep riding it as if a modification doesn’t exist. You will adapt. In a month or two you will not even think about it. Muscle memory will take over.
@@Nine_883 I agree with you when riding dirt bikes. I haven't found that to be the case with loaded adventure bikes. The one bike I had that I could only touch with one foot down I dropped all the time. I was not able to dab very easily or catch it. Bikes that I could more easily touch found the ground much less. It was likely due to my poor riding ability.
@@advmatt I guess you and I are built different. I was riding a CT70 when I was 6. I am 54 now. I have been on two wheels my whole life. I just get used to it. Two up could be a problem, but my old lady will lower it quite a bit just through gravity.
@@Nine_883 yeah, I think we are different. I didn't start riding until I was 12, with breaks between riding years, up to the last decade. You have the experience to handle the tall bike. I expect you will enjoy it.
@@advmatt I am just saying I don’t want to compromise the ground clearance. I don’t want to modify the bike under warranty. For me right now I can live with the inconvenience. It’s not going to help on a single track. Even if I lower it I will still not really be able to get a foot planted enough to manhandle this bike. Not that this bike can be man handled anyway. I would break my leg trying to save it. Just got to try stay upright my friend. 😃.
@@Nine_883 I get it. I knew what you were saying. This isn't a good single track bike, but it is a great forest road bike.
The Aprilia was a want for me, but the dealer is 3hours away around Chicago. My 390 will have to do unless i win the lottery. Puting a cruise on the 390 now because the midwest is full of long straight roads.
I really considered a cruise control and still should do it. It should really open up long rides. It's cheaper than a new bike for sure.
@@advmatt I had a wire not seated in one of my plugs. Emailed a photo to veridian to see if I could get a new harness. 7 minutes later I had an apology email and a order invoice email with the new harness. I dong get it until April 2nd, but you can't beat that customer support
@@RonOrud I will take a look. I didn't know veridian had a T7 cruise control.
@@advmatt they don’t for the T7. I have it for the 390. T7 isn’t a ride by wire
@@RonOrud yeah, I was wondering. Misunderstood. It seems like a great mod for the 390.
Ive test rode the T7 and really liked it but have really been concerned about the range and would hate that the fuel light comes on early. Im more of a road and light off road rider and have been looking for a Transalp but they are hard to find without a high markup.
I hear you. I really thought the fuel range would be fine and it wouldn't bother me but that is not the case. Good luck finding a Transalp. They seem really great. Hopefully it will be close to home.
Where are you located Jim? Lots of Transalps around me at the $9999 asking price.
@@RugerM77 I'm in Maryland and have talked to a couple dealers and they are marking the bike up to high. The one dealer gave me a fair price but I hesitated and the bike was sold. My problem is I can buy out of state from a hub dealer and there is no extra BS charges and markup but they don't have the Honda. I can get the T7 or de800 at MSRP out the door. I'll pay 2k more for the Transalp.
@@jimh2061 I just recently bought the Tuareg 660. I previously had a T7 and it was too tall for me. It was between the 660 and the 800DE. The Tuareg just offered so much more for almost the same cost.
@@RugerM77 oh wow nice! I would like to check that bike out but haven't seen any close by.
Interesting what you say about wind, i have a ninja 650 which is way low to the ground, an when on the tenere its so tall an the fairings are flat so it feels like im really getn thrown around by the wind
I can see that, for sure. Coming off my 390 Adventure, which was very light, comparatively speaking, this bike feels much better. I hit some awful winds though, that nearly blew me off the road several times.
Good video.. don't know about many of the issues.. under sprung is week one, week two but certainly never ignored before going loaded on any trip!! And it should be but yet another message that manufacturers are not listening to.. American riders are 180-220lbs and some gear and stock suspension on most bikes is for a 160 pound person..all of the bikes are dishonest and set up for 90-10 and the 10% off road is dirt roads and nothing technical.. the fuel range is an issue on this bike and others.. and Yamaha is the only answer, they only made 4 colors and a metal tank w a gallon+ more at $450-600 bucks wouldn't make sense . the tanks that are backwards engineered usually are decent but Yamaha could make something much easier and better than anyone else. Cruise control issue is solved on latest model I think.. but bikes simplicity was part of it's appeal.. bigger windshield, heated grips, cruise control, better LCD, lowering linkage, and additional fuel capacity keep pushing the price and horsepower needs and they are already building the 900cc triple that was super good seller on the road.. have a feeling that the 900 is going to be popular also.. the T7 sort of made Yamaha stop at the lower bores and they still should make a WR450 or 500..in my opinion.. but the entire sector is becoming saturated!!! CFMoto,Kove and some others all 800-400cc
Just put a stronger bash plate on it as for fuel it is what it is youl just have to carry extra fuel and plan fuel stops, it sure has the power for touring
The engine is perfect for just about everything. I do carry extra fuel now if I don't know the availability. I have the Outback Motortek bash guard. It should work. I just don't find this bike to be comfortable for 400 to 500 mile days. I have limited time and need to travel long distances to get where I want to be, creating long days. I am whining about the smallest of issues, I know. Cheers.
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I noticed you raised the windshield. Where did you get that black piece below to stop the wind
@@chiptaxfree I made it myself. Here is the video describing what I did. I can send you a template. th-cam.com/video/YRIPWSrwOvo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KJZ5wHFpdT7oHzge
You can install ADV Camel Tank, that will give you extra 5L
I have been looking at those. It would certainly help.
Tuareg is far superior in all ways…and well worth the premium …as in cruise control, tubeless wheels and suspension…
That's what I have been thinking. In my demo ride it really shined.
Service costs and parts availability may drive you nuts
@@trailrunnermike AF1 Racing seems to be able to get parts quickly and doing the service myself will save me some money. We will see.
And how did your new luggage system hold do, you could'nt really test that at the time because of the snow?
It did really well. I am really pleased with how it came out. I made a few adjustments with the straps but that is about it.
Man you just destroyed my dream about getting a T7 I can’t handle that ugly part neither
Sorry dude. You will see comments below from other riders that have learned to deal with the ugly bits of this bike. The fuel issue is really challenging in the Southwest were stations can be 100s of miles apart. The linkage doesn't seem to be a problem, there aren't reports of broken links, but it makes me nervous. The extra plate is taking a beating already.
@@advmatt I tried the Touareg the other day and it seemed to me a good alternative to the T7 because it looks pretty alike and it was a bit lower vs lighter
@@user-Podcast-Canada it has more features to offer, like a larger gas tank and the suspension linkage doesn't sit below the bottom of the frame. Oh yeah, electronics like cruise control.... huge bonus.
@@advmatt I can live with the uglies, pfft no biggie.
Question? How much fuel is in the tank or how far can you drive when the indicator starts flashing?
The tank has been full at every gas station stop, I think it's around 4.2 gallons or 16 liters. The fuel light comes on around 130 to 140 miles. My fuel consumption has been averaging 45 to 50 mpg.
youd pick this over your 390 adventure?
For distance, and especially in high wind, yes. If I was only riding offroad I would still take the 390, but the T7 is a close second. I don't ride crazy offroad stuff so I can get away with a heavier bike. There are pros and cons to both bikes. I am going to cover them soon.
Cruise control is why I bought the tiger
@@golfncars5094 it really is a game changer for long days.
The ugliest thing on that bike are those turn signal lights
They are ugly, but I am too cheap to replace them.
So is the KTM’s days numbered?
I don't know. Right now no, but it isn't getting ridden much. Partly because I took on a tire test that I wasn't expecting. I had planned to ride the KTM to Big Bend NP, but now I need to continue testing the Tusk 2Track on the Tenere. I want to get it to 30k miles this summer. One week long trip should get me close. Long term, I am not sure what will happen.
@@advmatt I’m glad to hear a good report on the Yamaha. You seemed a little unsure about it in the past. I’ve heard generally very favorable reports from other owners. I was curious about the Tenere but at the time I was looking to upgrade from my WR, the T7 was impossible to find and a lot more expensive than the KTM. I don’t regret buying the 390 but I’ve always been curious about the T7. Glad you are enjoying yours.
@@advmattHi. You should try the KTM 790 adventure: luxurious, comfy and easy to ride. I’ve just ridden my first 900 km in the past two weeks, and find it rides excellent on and off road (easy dirt roads): stable, smooth, very controllable.
@@JamesBond-gv8yd I was thinking of trying to find one around me. I need to look into them a bit more.
Where's the 390 adventure bike ?
It's in the garage. It's needs luggage before I can resume travel on it again. I removed the luggage rack to rackless. Should see it again soon.
Dear brother kindly suggest me Which is Best option for one Time investment choices are R1300Gs, Africa twin, Tenere 700 iam from India🇮🇳 6feet taller age is 42
See my previous response. Out of the three you list, go with the Tenere 700.
*Thank you Bro" How about Excitement To Ride All 3 are Same Pleasure to use it bro*
@@jeevanmotors4275 I have not ridden the Adrica Twin or the BMW 1300GS so I don't know. Any motorcycle is better than none.
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The engine on the T7 is exceptionally robust and will accommodate everyone’s riding style, but common sense dictates with the business of fuel economy, riding high up the rev range is unnecessary if you want to cover distance, unless of course the desire is to mimic the Dakar, which of course is pointless. All the reports of the original T7 point out the soft suspension, if intending to travel fully loaded and you know beforehand the suspension isn’t geared for that, isn’t that a fault of the owner rather than the bike.
Rear linkage …. These bikes have been abused by their owners off-road in all conditions, including rocky terrain yet this happens to be the only video commenting negatively. Is this a case of creating a crisis out of a simple one off drama or simply making a video for the sake of maintaining the income stream.
Nothing new, exciting or interesting came out of this 11.35 minute video that hasn’t been covered literally hundreds of times already. If you intend to cover major distances, solo, fully laden you must expect to modify the bike, especially one that is built for simplicity, at a price leaving scope for the rider to adapt the machine to suit the job expected of it. The business of cruise control is a personal preference not a fault or “bad” element of the bike.
It would appear that by choosing the Tenere7, it was a life choice gone wrong perhaps.
@@andycapp3867 yes, choosing the Tenere was a life choice gone wrong. Thanks for commenting, it helps my channel! I have tried to like this bike, but I just haven't been able to, except for the engine. The rest is meh.
If u need cruisecontrol, buy a bike with cruisecontrol
@@19Taylor79 I did buy a bike with cruise control after finding the T7 to be too intolerable for me on long distance trips.
@@advmatt Those throttle lock things wouldn't work ? , I never tried one .
@@leeinwis my bike has one. It works, kind of, but only a few minutes at a time as roads go up and down.
overrated bike.good off road,but on road...really,what exactly did you like?
I have been riding a KTM 390 Adventure for the past three years. In comparison the T7 provides a better road riding experience with more power and better road presence, especially in the wind. For a 21/18 wheel combo it doesn't do too bad in canyons either, in comparison. The T7 is a very balanced bike which surprised me. I grew weary riding my R1200GS for many reasons. I don't disagree the T7 has a reputation bigger than it can deliver.
Dear brother kindly suggest me which is one time investment to Buy Legendary adventure bike choices are R1300Gs, Africa twin and This Tenere 700" Your feedback please🙏 from India🇮🇳
@@jeevanmotors4275 out of the three choices you provided I recommwnd the Tenere 700. Less weight, cheaper to maintain.