Hi, love the video! I also made my own using flexzilla hose and the screw type fittings. After watching your previous video I chose the 1/4" line. Works great. Only improvement I can suggest to you is get rid of the rubber valve stems on your rims. Had a buddy when we were wheeling in the snow adjust his air pressure and the frozen valve stem cracked from being frozen and didn't want to bend. If you ever do any wheeling in the snow or colder climate, I highly recommend steel style valve stems. Hope this helps someone. Again, great video.... Thanks, Brent......
I actually have rubber valves to stop them from breaking on rocks. I don't do much in the cold and snow living in south Carolina. I also carry Colby valves just in case... 😁
@@schlomoshekelstein908 it all adds up, but it's been a couple years since I built my own. So things might be cheaper now, but using quality pieces, it adds up. If you go cheap, and that may not be saying lower quality, just the cheaper options... You could likely assemble it for less, even much less.
Chris, this is a great comparison. It is worth mentioning that Morrflate also carries adapters for some of the weird or larger compressor chuck sizes. I run a Viair 440P and it uses a 3/8" chuck. Morrflate sold me an adapter that goes from 3/8 to 1/4 in a very compact piece. There are also 10% coupon codes readily available when you need them. With longer hoses, caps ($7.99), and 440p adapter ($24.99), my total was $232 delivered to my home. Total time from order to delivery was 6 days.
Ya, they have adapters, compressors, everything you need. Not to mention a great group that stands behind their products. I'm happy, and quite frankly honored to be associated with morrflate.
I wanted to run hard lines with air chucks at each wheel well. But thats a LOT of time and work. I still might someday for the satisfaction but for now I'm going to order a morrflate kit. Thanks Chris for the review.
As a backup for the battery powered digital gage, I made up a Schrader valve with a coupler. That coupler then connects to the male quick connect where the compressor fitting attaches. Then, any tire gage can check the pressure in the hose system while the hose system is still attached to all four tires by using the Schrader valve. That will do in a pinch should my batteries be dead and no spares for the digital pressure gage.
I liked your original video so much that I built my own system total cost $160 AU or $110 US, Morrflate system with the stubby manifold is $409 (AUI) plus delivery so not worth it, I used the same digital gauge as Morrflate, Aliexpress $9 AU, I chose Stainless Steel fittings (brass is half the price again), Aluminium manifold, quality H/D Stainless ball valves, EU style quick disconnect fittings, all from Aliexpress for 1/10th price of amazon, hose is 1/4" US made Smartflex, US made Haltec chucks (amazon), I made it extra long, plus made an additional single 6m quick connect, I use Clamptie Stainless wire for all the fittings as I already have this in my kit, these are field serviceable with a pair of pilers and never leak, the system works perfect, as it all disconnects from the manifold it packs up small and looks very neat, the only thing I struggled to find was a compact bag or a decent liquid filled gauge hence I went the digital one, morrflate sell the bag for $29 AU, so might get one of them, the morrflate system is nice for someone with no skills to build their own, it's made from off the shelf components coloured green with limitations built in so you spend more to get the convenience such as stubby manifold, the components they use are nothing special all made in China, you can buy them all on Aliexpress or amazon if you want to get ripped off, do a search on Aliexpress for 0-200PSI Digital Tyre Tire Air Pressure Gauge LCD you will find it's the same one just in blue, the rest of the parts are easily found on Aliexpress as well, all arrived in 10 days to AU with free shipping.
Great review! I was on the fence of building/purchasing one. I don’t have a lot of free time and this video definitely helped me make a decision. Thank you!
I bought the MorrFlate system with the smaller 5-6 compressor for my RAM 2500. I normally use my home air compressor rather than the MorrFlate compressor. It works well. I don't do off-roading with a RAM 2500.
Under pressure smaller diameter is better whenever there is any other bottle neck in the system, where adversly when there is limited restriction at entry and exit points like an air intake or water pipes where flow can exceed diameter of pipe the more volume in the pipe the better the flow. larger diameter hose for high pressure, the pressuer out competes the restrictive force already but the larger diameter hose has more stretch, adding elasticity and additional room for the air to take up thus taking longer before coming to pressure, more volume to fill , yhus making it harder to reach pressure, and less stable pressure as well
I bought the Thors Lightning Compressor with the set it and forget it total control system, so I do not need a manifold or gauge. And not needing those, I priced out the parts at $97 on amazon today 1/23/2024..
For me, I'd still want a manifold for 2 reasons... So the 2 sides can be separated, makes it easier to store away. I'd also like at least a tire valve thing so I could check the pressure, or use it to deflate easier. But... Just 4 hoses should work perfect!
Yup, all true, I would have bet anything that the 3/8 would be faster, and the 1/4 does save room. If you haven't used it yet, maybe you send it back and get the 1/4?
An advantage of the slide valve is it doesn't stop the air flow from the compressor when closed; it releases to atmosphere while you check the pressure. This lets the compressor continue to run without pressure build up and possibly popping the safety valve. Of course, if you modified your compressor to have a pressure switch, or it came with one, then this isn't really an advantage over a ball valve.
@@EverymanOverland - They have to be installed backwards though. Normally, they're for closing off flow from the compressor and venting downstream pressure. I have one on my OBA setup (mimics the Rago "Wifey") that I use to air down. Pretty handy.
i came to much the same conclusion, it isnt much difference between buying or building your own. The two reasons i will be building my own over buying is because i do have a long bed f250, and need length, and i can make a short jumper from the compressor to the manifold, otherwise its a wash. Love the comparison though, and even more i love hearing the improvement and the designs behind the moriflate..
I have priced everything to make another one for one of my other offroad rigs and it came out to 315 bucks to make it myself with the morrflate style tire valves
Working 65 hr weeks, the extra $40.00 is worth it to me. I just don't have the time on the weekends. I simply desire to spend my weekends off-roading with my loved ones and having a good time.
Amen. Sometimes it does feel good to know you built something yourself, but if you have to choose between enjoying your stuff and building your stuff... That 40 bucks is totally worth it.
I priced this out, and yeah, about $30 savings, so I just ordered a morrflate, waiting on it to ship, I was unaware of the stubby option, time to call them and maybe upgrade.
Are you doing another video where you test your pretty sweet DIY kit vs the Morrflate? You know what would be cool is your DIY kit vs MORRFlate vs EZflate vs Speedflate vs Multi-tire i.d.k vs EZ air 4 tire inflate/deflate system vs InDeflate vs Thor Lightning vs Fasterflate vs ¡Cuatro!. Just curious as to why the morrflate is the best.
Another? No... The last video I believe you're referencing I compared 1/4" hose to 3/8" hose, but I built them both. As to why I believe morrflate is the best, it's probably that I have the most exposure to the morrflate. I have a few friends that have them, and a couple friends that have other brands and though I haven't gone in depth, I haven't liked the other brands as much. I certainly haven't seen them all, and I'm not looking to call out any brand for being less than another.
@@EverymanOverland My bad I miss understood the title of this video where it said DIY vs Morrflate. I though you might do some side by side comparison like you did with the air compressors.
@@whoopchickenexpeditions8193 ya nah... All of these systems will inflate and deflate at effectively identical rates so long as they're 1/4" hose. The difference between different tire chucks or ball valves or whatever would be as negligible as the difference between different generic valve stems. I think the differences will be all about fit, finish, quality and usefulness of individual parts, and the long time support of the company you purchase from.
A question as an aside. How do you like your vision wheels? I put a set on my truck this summer. Was going to put methods like i did my land cruiser but at about half the cost, it was too big of a difference to not give them a try. Only been off road on them once but they did just fine and that was with my truck camper in the bed. Weight rating was higher than the Mickey Thomson wheels they replaced.
I like them, like you say, for the cost. I've beat the crap out of them for close to 2 years, I drag them across the rocks every trip and they seem to keep their shape pretty well. I'm happy with them.
Ok, thank you for the feed back. I saw some scratches on yours so figured you had put then to the test. No issues on mine either and they're on a 1 ton diesel srw 37's (fairly heavy rig)😮. seemed like a pretty legit company as they have sponsored desert racers - driver - names I recognized.
Air down yes. It will air down all your tires to the same pressure, but I wouldn't call it rapid. I typically air down by removing the valve core. With the hose system you leave the valve core in place, and by the time it's down to 15 psi it's not moving a lot of air.
I did not get paid. They sent me the system at no charge to test, but no money has changed hands. I haven't really changed my mind on feeling good about the product I created on my own. It still works great, fits perfect, does what it's supposed to do. I absolutely have changed my opinion though on morrflate's tire chucks. The new style they have that they helped develop is vastly superior to the old ones. I think my biggest question mark at this point is the digital guage, but I want to use it for a while before really casting a vote. I may end up going back to my analog guage, I may decide that the digital is the way to go. That'll take a few trips to decide on. My feeling at this point is that I don't think there's a big enough delta between what it cost to build my own vs what you can just click order and have show up with zero effort. As they sit I think there's about a 60 dollar difference, but with the morrflate you get a nice bag and the rubber caps for the system and your tire valves, plus you get a warranty. I think that's a compelling argument in that direction.
The ten six and the new psi pro are essentially the same compressor, but the pro model will set the air for you. You program what pressure you want and it stops at that pressure. But both of them are the big twin cylinder compressors like the Maxi Trac or Tozalazz.
Ya, I wanted to get some footage to use as "B-roll", but the point of the video was about comparing quality, features and cost, not timing what goes faster. They're both 1/4" hose, any other differences will be negligible.
They're expensive for sure, but they do have some nice features. I guess it just depends if you want to pay for those features or not. I made my own, so clearly at that point I wasnt willing. At this point I can see the value of the nicer things, but you're not wrong. They're pricy for sure.
Hi, love the video!
I also made my own using flexzilla hose and the screw type fittings. After watching your previous video I chose the 1/4" line.
Works great.
Only improvement I can suggest to you is get rid of the rubber valve stems on your rims.
Had a buddy when we were wheeling in the snow adjust his air pressure and the frozen valve stem cracked from being frozen and didn't want to bend.
If you ever do any wheeling in the snow or colder climate, I highly recommend steel style valve stems.
Hope this helps someone.
Again, great video....
Thanks,
Brent......
I actually have rubber valves to stop them from breaking on rocks. I don't do much in the cold and snow living in south Carolina. I also carry Colby valves just in case... 😁
I just figured out the overland thing, its all about clutter and gear that makes things more complicated, but faster.
I just finished building my DIY kit, I think I’m in it for $170 or $180, including a bag. I should have just bought the Morrflate system. Oh well.
Ya, that's about my experience. You can save money, but not a lot.
@@EverymanOverland how are you spending $180 for 40 feet of 1/4 hose, 8 air fittings and a gauge?
@@schlomoshekelstein908 it all adds up, but it's been a couple years since I built my own. So things might be cheaper now, but using quality pieces, it adds up. If you go cheap, and that may not be saying lower quality, just the cheaper options... You could likely assemble it for less, even much less.
Thanks for sharing!
Chris, this is a great comparison. It is worth mentioning that Morrflate also carries adapters for some of the weird or larger compressor chuck sizes. I run a Viair 440P and it uses a 3/8" chuck. Morrflate sold me an adapter that goes from 3/8 to 1/4 in a very compact piece. There are also 10% coupon codes readily available when you need them. With longer hoses, caps ($7.99), and 440p adapter ($24.99), my total was $232 delivered to my home. Total time from order to delivery was 6 days.
Ya, they have adapters, compressors, everything you need. Not to mention a great group that stands behind their products. I'm happy, and quite frankly honored to be associated with morrflate.
I wanted to run hard lines with air chucks at each wheel well. But thats a LOT of time and work. I still might someday for the satisfaction but for now I'm going to order a morrflate kit. Thanks Chris for the review.
Thank you for watching. I don't think you'll be disappointed. If you can swing it, get the stubby kit. Really makes it nicer.
As a backup for the battery powered digital gage, I made up a Schrader valve with a coupler. That coupler then connects to the male quick connect where the compressor fitting attaches. Then, any tire gage can check the pressure in the hose system while the hose system is still attached to all four tires by using the Schrader valve. That will do in a pinch should my batteries be dead and no spares for the digital pressure gage.
That'll do! Good thinking!
Thank you for all this information. It was very helpful. Very well made review
The caps for the valves are nice
I liked your original video so much that I built my own system total cost $160 AU or $110 US, Morrflate system with the stubby manifold is $409 (AUI) plus delivery so not worth it, I used the same digital gauge as Morrflate, Aliexpress $9 AU, I chose Stainless Steel fittings (brass is half the price again), Aluminium manifold, quality H/D Stainless ball valves, EU style quick disconnect fittings, all from Aliexpress for 1/10th price of amazon, hose is 1/4" US made Smartflex, US made Haltec chucks (amazon), I made it extra long, plus made an additional single 6m quick connect, I use Clamptie Stainless wire for all the fittings as I already have this in my kit, these are field serviceable with a pair of pilers and never leak, the system works perfect, as it all disconnects from the manifold it packs up small and looks very neat, the only thing I struggled to find was a compact bag or a decent liquid filled gauge hence I went the digital one, morrflate sell the bag for $29 AU, so might get one of them, the morrflate system is nice for someone with no skills to build their own, it's made from off the shelf components coloured green with limitations built in so you spend more to get the convenience such as stubby manifold, the components they use are nothing special all made in China, you can buy them all on Aliexpress or amazon if you want to get ripped off, do a search on Aliexpress for 0-200PSI Digital Tyre Tire Air Pressure Gauge LCD you will find it's the same one just in blue, the rest of the parts are easily found on Aliexpress as well, all arrived in 10 days to AU with free shipping.
Great review! I was on the fence of building/purchasing one. I don’t have a lot of free time and this video definitely helped me make a decision. Thank you!
I'm happy to be helpful... Thank you for watching, you'll be stoked to start running an inflation system. What kind of compressor do you have?
@@EverymanOverland I run the Thor 12v compressor (aka. Napa)
@@trd4x429 ok, ya same compressor as the maxi Trac, tozalazz, morrflate... You'll love it!
I bought the MorrFlate system with the smaller 5-6 compressor for my RAM 2500. I normally use my home air compressor rather than the MorrFlate compressor. It works well. I don't do off-roading with a RAM 2500.
Very nice comparison and review
I would love to compare the Morrflate system you got sent to my Thors Lightnings 4 tire Imflation System would be a interesting comparison
Under pressure smaller diameter is better whenever there is any other bottle neck in the system, where adversly when there is limited restriction at entry and exit points like an air intake or water pipes where flow can exceed diameter of pipe the more volume in the pipe the better the flow. larger diameter hose for high pressure, the pressuer out competes the restrictive force already but the larger diameter hose has more stretch, adding elasticity and additional room for the air to take up thus taking longer before coming to pressure, more volume to fill , yhus making it harder to reach pressure, and less stable pressure as well
I bought the Thors Lightning Compressor with the set it and forget it total control system, so I do not need a manifold or gauge. And not needing those, I priced out the parts at $97 on amazon today 1/23/2024..
For me, I'd still want a manifold for 2 reasons... So the 2 sides can be separated, makes it easier to store away. I'd also like at least a tire valve thing so I could check the pressure, or use it to deflate easier. But... Just 4 hoses should work perfect!
Bugger last week I just ordered a 3/8 hose kit thinking it would be better and I really wanted the 1/4 as it should fit in my compressor box
Yup, all true, I would have bet anything that the 3/8 would be faster, and the 1/4 does save room. If you haven't used it yet, maybe you send it back and get the 1/4?
An advantage of the slide valve is it doesn't stop the air flow from the compressor when closed; it releases to atmosphere while you check the pressure. This lets the compressor continue to run without pressure build up and possibly popping the safety valve. Of course, if you modified your compressor to have a pressure switch, or it came with one, then this isn't really an advantage over a ball valve.
Huh, I did not know that. Sweet!
@@EverymanOverland - They have to be installed backwards though. Normally, they're for closing off flow from the compressor and venting downstream pressure. I have one on my OBA setup (mimics the Rago "Wifey") that I use to air down. Pretty handy.
the slide valve on the manifold you mean?
i came to much the same conclusion, it isnt much difference between buying or building your own. The two reasons i will be building my own over buying is because i do have a long bed f250, and need length, and i can make a short jumper from the compressor to the manifold, otherwise its a wash.
Love the comparison though, and even more i love hearing the improvement and the designs behind the moriflate..
Ya, you'll end up using all of the 50ft roll of hose with that truck... 😁 Just make sure to use 1/4" hose, not 3/8".
The caps they gave for the valve stems looks like carb vacuum caps
Yup. I'm no way did I think they would stay on, but in fact they did. Blew me away!
Wish morrflate would send me a setup to do a review on
I have priced everything to make another one for one of my other offroad rigs and it came out to 315 bucks to make it myself with the morrflate style tire valves
Wow. That some pricey.
@@EverymanOverland yep
@@EverymanOverland yeah crazy cheaper to buy the morrflate stuff
@@AntonioClaudioMichael it's all economy of scale.
@@EverymanOverland true
Working 65 hr weeks, the extra $40.00 is worth it to me. I just don't have the time on the weekends. I simply desire to spend my weekends off-roading with my loved ones and having a good time.
Amen. Sometimes it does feel good to know you built something yourself, but if you have to choose between enjoying your stuff and building your stuff... That 40 bucks is totally worth it.
@@EverymanOverland Absolutely, after watching your DYI Kit and this video. I easily made my choices. Keep on posting awesome videos.
@@BOBANDERSON5150 thank you! You keep watching, I'll keep posting!
The larger diameter hoses aren’t designed for hobbyists. They’re designed to run off a big tank pushed by a big compressor to run big tools
I priced this out, and yeah, about $30 savings, so I just ordered a morrflate, waiting on it to ship, I was unaware of the stubby option, time to call them and maybe upgrade.
If it's too late, converting the one that arrives shouldn't be too hard. But getting it all done and ready is also quite nice...
Are you doing another video where you test your pretty sweet DIY kit vs the Morrflate? You know what would be cool is your DIY kit vs MORRFlate vs EZflate vs Speedflate vs Multi-tire i.d.k vs EZ air 4 tire inflate/deflate system vs InDeflate vs Thor Lightning vs Fasterflate vs ¡Cuatro!. Just curious as to why the morrflate is the best.
Another? No... The last video I believe you're referencing I compared 1/4" hose to 3/8" hose, but I built them both. As to why I believe morrflate is the best, it's probably that I have the most exposure to the morrflate. I have a few friends that have them, and a couple friends that have other brands and though I haven't gone in depth, I haven't liked the other brands as much. I certainly haven't seen them all, and I'm not looking to call out any brand for being less than another.
@@EverymanOverland My bad I miss understood the title of this video where it said DIY vs Morrflate. I though you might do some side by side comparison like you did with the air compressors.
@@whoopchickenexpeditions8193 ya nah... All of these systems will inflate and deflate at effectively identical rates so long as they're 1/4" hose. The difference between different tire chucks or ball valves or whatever would be as negligible as the difference between different generic valve stems. I think the differences will be all about fit, finish, quality and usefulness of individual parts, and the long time support of the company you purchase from.
Just a thought, it's not formula 1. They all do the same thing.
A question as an aside. How do you like your vision wheels? I put a set on my truck this summer. Was going to put methods like i did my land cruiser but at about half the cost, it was too big of a difference to not give them a try. Only been off road on them once but they did just fine and that was with my truck camper in the bed. Weight rating was higher than the Mickey Thomson wheels they replaced.
I like them, like you say, for the cost. I've beat the crap out of them for close to 2 years, I drag them across the rocks every trip and they seem to keep their shape pretty well. I'm happy with them.
Ok, thank you for the feed back. I saw some scratches on yours so figured you had put then to the test. No issues on mine either and they're on a 1 ton diesel srw 37's (fairly heavy rig)😮. seemed like a pretty legit company as they have sponsored desert racers - driver - names I recognized.
Send your Morr gauge to Gageitinc and see if it can be NIST certified. I doubt it will pass I have never seen a digital gauge get certified
No idea if they would verify or not, but for sure I still prefer analog gauges.
You probably worked on my 4runners when you worked in az lol at discount tire
Possibly, though it has been probably 15 years since then...
Just did the Mojave Road last weekend and my morrflate was dead had no triple a batteries.
Yup. Though the gauge does have a battery meter, that's why I would rather an analog gauge.
Where's your affiliate link, yo?
I don't do affiliate links. I'm in it to give an honest opinion, I feel like offering an affiliate link would tarnish my credibility.
Can you use this hose/gauge system to rapidly air down?
Air down yes. It will air down all your tires to the same pressure, but I wouldn't call it rapid. I typically air down by removing the valve core. With the hose system you leave the valve core in place, and by the time it's down to 15 psi it's not moving a lot of air.
WELL IF YOU DECIDE TO SELL YOUR OLD SYSTEM, ID LIKE TO PURCHASE IT LOL THE 1/4INCH ONE, NOT THE 3/16 LOL
Did you get paid by Morflate? I noticed you were really excited when you built your cables and now seemed you are changing your mind. Lol
I did not get paid. They sent me the system at no charge to test, but no money has changed hands. I haven't really changed my mind on feeling good about the product I created on my own. It still works great, fits perfect, does what it's supposed to do. I absolutely have changed my opinion though on morrflate's tire chucks. The new style they have that they helped develop is vastly superior to the old ones. I think my biggest question mark at this point is the digital guage, but I want to use it for a while before really casting a vote. I may end up going back to my analog guage, I may decide that the digital is the way to go. That'll take a few trips to decide on.
My feeling at this point is that I don't think there's a big enough delta between what it cost to build my own vs what you can just click order and have show up with zero effort. As they sit I think there's about a 60 dollar difference, but with the morrflate you get a nice bag and the rubber caps for the system and your tire valves, plus you get a warranty. I think that's a compelling argument in that direction.
Checking in here... How's the guage doing?
Lol! They sold you.
Different hose cause it's cheaper, done
Could be... But whatever coating is on the hose repels mud better than any other hose I've used.
The Morrflate site has 3 sizes on air compressors. Which one?
The ten six and the new psi pro are essentially the same compressor, but the pro model will set the air for you. You program what pressure you want and it stops at that pressure. But both of them are the big twin cylinder compressors like the Maxi Trac or Tozalazz.
No actual usage?... weird
Ya, I wanted to get some footage to use as "B-roll", but the point of the video was about comparing quality, features and cost, not timing what goes faster. They're both 1/4" hose, any other differences will be negligible.
MoreFlate is way too expensive.
They're expensive for sure, but they do have some nice features. I guess it just depends if you want to pay for those features or not. I made my own, so clearly at that point I wasnt willing. At this point I can see the value of the nicer things, but you're not wrong. They're pricy for sure.