Betting irregularities in Jontay Porter games a big problem for the NBA - Tim Legler | Get Up
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- On Get Up, Mike Greenberg is joined by David Purdum, Adrian Wojnarowski and Tim Legler to breakdown the developing story of Toronto Raptors forward Jontay Porter being investigated by the NBA for instances of betting irregularities.
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I got a sports betting ad for this clip.😂
Literally same😂😂😂
I got a waffles ad. 🧇
I got TNAflix
I got free casino spins lol
Wendy’s 😩but I’m currently at work at Wendy’s 😂
Approved gambling has made the entire league suspect
especially the refs.
If I was a role player like him I would’ve did the same😂
Disagree. Vehemently. The betting “temperature” is fine, there haven’t been any improprieties of note and the League has been adamant about putting the game’s integrity as THE priority for ANY gambling endeavors. They jumped on the ref scandals and keep their nose in all types of potential mess. The sky ain’t falling, knock it off.
@@cbrown940 Calm down lol
@@zap7759 ok, i'll try - shut up. better? 😂
The NBA actually had proof of concept that Gambling has happened in within their league with Tim Donaghy and still got fully behind sports betting.
That still is fundamentally insane to me 🤔🤔🤔🤔
for real!! when i watched that secret base video on tim donaghy i was like this cannot be real. so to see them lean into the sports betting world as heavily as they’ve done was always bound to open up a massive can of worms at some point
The nba is rigged
Pandemic recovery costs
Not being involved did not prevent Donaghy, so maybe they thought involvement would make it easier to prevent.
Since Adam Silver took over as Commissioner, NBA has gotten in bed with casinos and sports betting allowing them to advertise everywhere. I doubt he will be getting rid of that cash cow any time soon. Look at the new Mavs owner.. Adelson family that owns Las Vegas Sands. How on earth did the NBA allow a team to be sold to someone that controls a casino empire? Thats conflict of interest if I ever saw one.
betting is literally ruining the game.
No it's not. Always been there. How do you think these players make this much money?
I feel like there shouldn't be props for end of bench guys.
agreed
agreed, some of these lines are .5 attempts, the easiest possible way to fix a game. I assume the betting limits reflect this but still wild
Only the NBA can make money on betting and fix games. Players not allowed.
So the gambling company's lost money so they blame the player and the league 'suspends' him until the investigation is complete. If porter is found innocent he should sue everyone. He's making $415k so why would he risk his basketball career for this?
Cus money hell of a drug
You’d be surprised
There’s a chance he’s not involved, but there was 100% foul play, this isn’t coincidental, the issue is the amount of money placed on those props, I don’t know the figures obviously but the fact that he had the most money placed on his props out of any player flat out can’t be coincidental. If you want me to explain why that is I will but I’ll save my fingers if I don’t need to
@@SuperZbrosexplain bro
He is super poor compared to Ohtani
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NBA fans first reaction: “ok, betting scandal, but WHO IS JONTAY PORTER??”
nba fans know that’s Michael Porter Jr brother 😂
Casual
You a causal nba fans knows that MPJs little brother.
Exactly they just trying to make a example out of him just in case players are doing it ,cause I never seen this dude as prop let alone get enough minutes to impact a players prop😂
Ohtani’s best friend
They can make themselves go under easier then they can make themselves go over. Remember that
wow thank you for that information.
@xMrCANNONx most betters choose the over. That was for them smart guy. Now you should go back to eating your man-meat sandwiches 🥪
Now it’s an issue. When the Refs are doing it and everyone else is doing. They should have never allowed Gambling in the game in the first place. It’s gonna be more of these issues happening.
This is not an issue. THE NBA HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS. its just not in the papers. You would have to be insane to be in a professional league were gambling is taking place somewhere and you decide not to part take like hey “ if i put 5k and( rip kobe),he drops 30 , i can leave here with 20k”… This is how the rich stay rich. And lastly TO ALL YOU PPL THAT STILL DONT BELIEVE. YES WWE IS FAKE,BUT THEY TRIED THE BETTING ROUTE AND SOMEONE I KNOW GOT ALL THE MATCHES CORRECTLY AND THEY DIDNT PAY, WHY. Its because they didn’t expect ppl to know wwe.
How can the league that covered up the Tim Donaghy story have any credibility around gambling? Look at the referees too.
If people think Tim Donaghy was the only referee involved in game fixing you crazy .
“Someone” put 80k down to win a mill on a parlay on all his unders. RED FLAG 😂
LOL. Just like the sports leagues, ESPN constantly shoves betting in everyone's faces (ESPNBET, anyone?) and now they're wringing their hands about ThE iNtEgRiTy Of ThE SpOrT? GTFO
Porter is helping us eat lol $$$$$$
Well. He's helping people like me eat. The casual fan and casual bettor bet overs
Stop the refs from betting that’s the problem
Agree the refs are definitely rigged af
People will still say it ain’t rigged I think I’m done with betting
Why were you even trying
You should've never been betting
They have the edge every time
Ohh so starts to hit there pocket now it’s a problem ? I hope this continues and they end up shutting all these bookies down it’s ruining the game
What a shock, they start pushing gambling on the games and suddenly people are doing shady stuff.
Nothing new. Suspicion has been around since 2002 and the Lakers suspect “win” vs the Kings
This is the problem I have with sports books. I've heard of this kind of scenario or something similar to it happening several times. In those cases the bettors do not receive their winnings and an investigation is done to the player which damages his reputation and potentially his career of there's any validity to him colluding with bettors. But the games in question he only played 3 or 4 minutes so unless he's like faking an injury I'm unclear on how they think he could be involved. Last thing I wanna mention is there are betting teams that get together and can explain scenarios like this. They all have seperate accounts and if one guy in the group knowledgeable of NBA says hammer Porter's under then they'll all do it. Now in the many times that has happened never have I heard the books complain when those guys end up losing. It's only when the books lose that they demand accountability, but if the bettors lose then all is well. Sports books are just really dirty and unfair. I won't say too much until I know more but I'm already feeling the league overstepped by immediately calling out Porter. If I was him and I was innocent, I'd sue everyone for all I could get.
If you do research you will figure out why. Out of all players, heavy money came in on this one player from Toronto, and in those games, he left the game at the right time so the bets pays off. That's a huge deal for something like that happens, twice in a couple months.
@@KNByam that was mentioned in the video but that doesn't tell us anything to suggest Porter colluded. His coach decides when he comes in and out. If anything it implicates the coach more so than the player..
@@damonthomas2975 With the information that has been made public, but let's not forget, they may very well have a lot more info.
@@KNByam yeah I specified that in my original comment. Not sure why we're talking about it? Lol
@@damonthomas2975 Because I didn't read that entire book you wrote. Lol
Weird huh, who would have thought accepting sportbooks as direct sponsors would cause this?! I betcha things will only get worse if they don't brake that sponsorship ties.
It's getting really bad every sports show now has segment for betting it needs to stop before we get another lakers kings type of series were the refs basically gave the win to lakers
too easy to cheat on prop bets when the over under is 1 !!!!! betting has gone arry for the NBA. this is gonna ruin the game sooner or later.
what's the song playing at the end?
It's an annoying song
@@Carlanthony273 it sounds familiar and it's just bugging me I can't remember the title
@@btafbm I barely can understand what the song is saying lol
ESPN talking about betting while being sponsored by them & having their own betting app. HYPOCRISY at its finest
This is stupid. The NBA and the sports world in the U.S. pushes and encourages legal betting, then.., act surprise when something minor takes place. It's stupid.
Players are not allowed to bet it’s not rocket science
You cannot bet on the sport you play. What's so hard to understand about that?
You slow? You shouldn’t be betting in the game you yourself are playing in. That’s rigging it and is completely illegal.
Do you know what insider trading is?
For those who don't know the 2 games in question, big money came in on him. In those games, he left those games.
Literally what Woj said in his first 15 seconds of speaking
They just said that u mean for those who didn’t listen
Load management prop betting - Adam Silver's latest headache.
6:01 “why did he only play 3 mins and 4 mins” and the player in question wears the number “34”. Gematria in plain sight, wake up guys.
Gambling on sports is a bad idea
I missed the memo on porter unders? Keep me in the loop!
He finally made the news being out there in Canada
Opening the flood gates to legal gambling ends up corrupting the game?? Shocker! Not to mention $92 BILLION with a B blown on gambling last year. And how much of that money was lost by lower income individuals who are struggling to begin with? My town is filled with gambling parlors. So sad.
You’ve got every broadcaster and the entire league pushing this stuff but get upset that the players may be participating 🙄
If he bet on his own games, he should be banned for life.
The books set the line...and are mad tht folks took his UNDER n cashed smh...unless he faked an injury...i dnt see how he gets the blame...guy played a total of 7mins those games...seems like those books jus cant handle losing smh
multiple 10k bets on his under is massively suspect. Someone somewhere knew he woudnt be playing much.
Don’t be goofy. As a sports bettor this was very obvious. All they did was check if heavy action was on him on the other games he played. If there wasn’t then he’s 1000pct guilty. He’s stupid he got away with it once but he did it again
Wow, im so shocked by this who would've thought.
ESPN is also the problem promoting ESPN bet
I knew they would find out about players before they investigate the Refs 🤦🏾♂️
It’s disgraceful how blind by the money everything is. These casinos throw money at people and all of a sudden everyone is gambling.
What do you expect? you allow legalized gambling on the games and you have players who are barely holding onto a minimum contract. This was bound to happen and it will be happening in every league.
LMAO who could have seen this coming 😂
Since betting was made official, the NBA has become extremely suspect. Especially certain referees...
Gee, I wonder if making gambling widely accessible to everybody through the internet is bad for society and individuals...
Its so ironic that ESPN would do this bit when they promote more gambling than anyone!! Gambling is out of control. You cant take games seriously anymore because of fixing. This is killing competition and all sports!
The thing is this…
If they are in practice the day before and a coach is upset with him, tells him to stop shooting threes, and people in the organization hear this and tell their people to take advantage.
Not sure it’s 100% on jontay
Could totally be on the staff. At this point I'm sure they're figuring who won the money and what ties they have to who.
one of those "injuries" was a eye injury. So did he poke himself in the eye? Wouldn't the medical staff be able to tell if that player can or can't play with that said eye injury? and does that eye injury magically go away the next day? Didn't Steve Nash play with one eye at one point? Jalen Rose played an entire quarter with a broken hand
The head athletic trainer of the team leaked the information that he wasn’t gonna play much
Ayyye do this same high advance investigation with the REFEREES!!!!
Cmon Tim…you’re speculating
He should blame his translator
Jokic gave a player on the other team (Bam) a steal in the final seconds of a game after a hug and whisper in his ear. He had 3 steals before this, and vegas had him at 3.5.. but lets throw the guy who gets 4 minutes a game under the bus 🙄 NBA getting in bed with criminal sports betting is going to ruin the game. Such a joke
Fred Vanvleet: Bet On Yourself
Porter: Bet On Himself
😂😂😂
The double standard is mind boggling...
They need to stop prop bets and just have bets on teams it's getting dangerous
For players that don't make much I don't know if the league can create consequences dire enough to prevent prop bet rigging. If a player is on a two-way making $200,000 and is likely going to be out of the league in a year or so anyway, why not make 5-10 million rigging prop bets? They were never gonna make that much money in the league in the first place. Gambling should've stayed illegal.
There is nothing they can do. They don't complain when people lose money on rigged games.
Thanasis should also be investigated.
1) if it was up to me, gambling would be illegal for multiple reasons (not gonna go into details)
2) who forces a betting organization to put fringe bench players up for bets? no one. who said betting 20k on LBJ is better than betting 20k on an end of bench player? no one. odds are odds, mathematics do not lie and profit is profit. in the end, if you really understand the game and follow the league, you can find multiple betting offers that are over/under valued, depending on how you look at it. that is the point of betting responsibly (if there is such a thing at all)
Agreed, Gambling should be illegal
Only upset that i didn't know about it and get on it myself
Dude is sorry as hell they was sweet I'ma all ways take his under
Won’t be the first or last. Prop bets make it so easy for individual players to effect betting.
Its a huge pandora box for the players & the League...
Refs haven't been the same since fan duel
Put the" Pete Rose" clause in their contracts.. if you're caught betting, it's an automatic ban.
Rudy Gobert is 🙂
sports app mad............but, but will not void bets when a player gets legitimately injured 1 minute into a game. do yo thang 11
now u can be a regular capper with us
He could have nothing to do with it. Could be someone in the locker room like a trainer that knew he wasn’t going to play much because of an injury. Or am I wrong?
You guys don’t get it. Adam silver has the feds watching all nba players. With the refs gambling bs and some nba players on bull, This is very confusing. This is another reason why older nba players complain about todays game. Wemby would drop 30 1 5 5 5, then some bull the next game. Also no one has noticed that players are sitting out more now than the early 2000s.
Who would EVER HAVE GUESSED anything like this could happen by legalizing betting on professional sports? : /
The only reason the sports are mad is because they have no void in place for things like this like making sure the playing at least plays the first half or first quarter for the bet to be void but no it a player gets injured in the first play of the game and you had the over you lost so it’s just the sports books mad
I wouldn't be surprised if he was blackmailed in to doing it.
There was other games where he only played 5, 6, 7 minutes though
Probably so but those games nobody attempted to bet 10-20k
Jontay Porter is not the only one. Others are doing it too they haven't got caught
It will show up in the betting if they do
No laws broken. Sure seems like a lightweight patsy
25k Really! Sounds like Draft Kings can’t handle loss. They acting like he’s putting up Ohtani type bets
I have no issue with what Jontay Porter did
Yeah…
These guys aren’t rigging the games in their favor.
FOH
It's been a long season for the Raptors yall..
If there’s no proof he’s linked it is totally wrong for the NBA to sit him. The sports leagues made their bed by opening up this Pandora’s box, they need to live with it.
Gambling has ruined sports
A betting market is a game of who has the best information.
A bet like this could be based on noticing coaching patterns, or perhaps contractual incentives, or some narrative a close watcher of the team might notice.
In my opinion, if you're going to secure your betting market against that kind of insider information, you need to be selective about what kind of bets are allowed into the market.
Individual stats bets are easily gamed by insider information, simply by the nature of the bet!
If you're going to limit bets to wins or losses, in meaningful games, the market's going to be a lot more secure against insider gaming.
If that's not enough, then betting on seemingly silly things like the final score being odd or even, or have a new round of betting every quarter, should be a better approach.
You have to ask yourself about the nature of the market you're regulating here, because the simpler solutions are usually on the market side.
This is gambling companies bitter that someone is able to make money off them. They ban people who make too much money anyways, why create this fake investigation
Jontay Porter is brother of Michael Porter Jr.
But Otto Porter Jr. is not related to neither of them. Mind blowing....
And their younger brother in college is facing a Manslaughter charge right now!
Hope they’re looking into the betting accounts involving refs!
It's not only jontay porter that's the real problem
Lol don’t duck with gambling companies. The house always wins
This is horrible for the NBA AND the sports books as well. If it comes out that he did affect his performance/injury status, then the NBA MUST bring an indefinite/lifetime ban on Porter. Just dumb. He couldve easily made himself a role player for a half decade and collected a few million there.
To fix this going forward on the players side just only allow those kind of bets that makes advice a certain amount financially, maybe around the avatars player salary which I think is 12 million. Now they need to address this on the other non-player sides
“Headache” Smith . . .
Sounds like he's not playing to the script 🤷🏾♂️
How did he control how many min he played by
One of the games they were totally blown out, as a bench player averaging 15 mins a game, why would he only play 3 mins? And he was the only player with a positive +/-
He left 2 games early due to “injury” and “illness”
Why do that ask Woj to explain anything? He is terrible at giving any updates on tv. Let alone explaining something.
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If Greeny thinks betting only works on LeBron James really shows the disconnect some of these guys have with what's actually on the board for money
Adam silver is destroying the NBA; over empowering players, losing control of all star game, and embracing betting.
@joalanho u mean black players? U still got that white man slave mentality.
Well, but we also need to be talking about the refs who, after betting became legal, are making bad calls at an alarming rate.
Please tell me this man didn't place a prop on himself under his own legal name
probably not, but relatives or friends of the player or the coaching staff knew something was up.
Let me translate... The books always win. Don't gamble, it's not fun or worth it.
Toronto taking a lot of Ls this season. Yikes