Envy | ContraPoints
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- Starting at the surface with celebrity gossip, then spiraling into the inferno of the human psyche. Virgil, get me out of here.
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Envy - Nicki Minaj
Also YESSS for Peppermint the drag queen and her voiceovers
envy me harder, father
COOOOOOOOOOOM
its over. its done.
YESS now get some sleep please queen
I have heard men say “help I’m being devoured” during sex, but to be fair I am a giant praying mantis who learned how to type
Circle of life is beautiful
yes i've also seen it in furry vore art
I got to admit it's not great, but I didn't die alone as was predicted.
I'm a cluster of hive-minded spiders in a human skinsuit and same.
Homestuck
"Squidwardian" will be your most enduring contribution to the field of philosophy.
No, “mouthfeel” is definitely going to outlive “squidwardian”
I kinda genuinely wish it sticks
@@dougthedonkey1805 you rang?
Yes, I really want to use the term in a cohesive sentence in an everyday conversation ✨
@@dougthedonkey1805 We have an iconic adjective and an iconic abstract noun. Let the discourse begin on the “Squidwardian Mouthfeel” of Leftist Twitter.
Contrapoints is so smart. I’ll never be like her. *sigh*
Wait. OH NO.
Haha I see what you did there 😏
OH DANG.
I once heard a helpful piece of advice about envying someone's ability (or, since we don't begrudge Natalie her skills, jealousy) means we must bitterly wish to have spent all the time training she's spent. We must be aching to have gotten as much practice as she has. And that's true, but then, it isn't about her. I'm aching to have done work instead of play video games.
@@MoonShadowWolfe What! Video games are where it's at!
AAAAHHHH 🧿🧿🧿🧿
How about instead contrapoints is so smart. I’ll never be like her 😁. Think on that one
"Also, nothing is less attractive than an envious, resentful, self-pitying person. It's beyond a personality flaw, it's a personality deformity that can ruin whatever chance at happiness you have. So in the short time that you're alive, you have to discover that which is noble in yourself and say yes to it."
Sincerely, apolitically, thank you for that Natalie. It was some tough love I needed at an important point in my life.
I just revisited this video and I'm in the same position. I see myself in this picture and I don't like it. I don't know what even I am supposed to say yes to, but I also needed to hear that. I guess I'll keep an unenvious eye out.
if you start appropriating Hunchback memes I'm suing
IM LOSIN TO A BIRD
Just start saying *heyhowareyou*.
How many more people need to suffer in this war !??!
Are you two fighting for who made the longest video???
CONTRAPOINTS IS A MENACE
I’m a psychologist and my one of grad professors used to say “Freud was a great observer of human behavior and a terrible explainer of human behavior.”
Sigmund Freud was a biological cocaine storage facility
Funny. My professors thought me that Freud was a great distributor of cocain and a good example of how not to do science. ^^
@@Susu-sp7vu your professors were also puppets being paid to parrot the establishment narrative :)
didn't we learn way more about the human psyche because people wanted to prove him wrong?
@@ochahap he practically founded the field
“Human nature is a toxic person”, love that line and the way Natalie empathetically and graciously responds to the comment.
i know all of Natalie's videos are this well-researched and well-presented, but something about this one feels like the quintessential moment. the effort put in, the research, the jokes, the outfits, the sets, etc etc. love it! always come back to this one
It's her best video by an extraordinary margin. I've watched it a million times.
Why 👏 can’t 👏 I 👏 stop 👏 watching 👏 this 👏 video
Truly. I always come back to this one as well.
The way I make sense of it, Envy is like the grand season finale. It contains and connects years-worth of themes that were previously explored in JKR, Cringe, Justice, Shame, Canceling, Opulence, Incels, etc. ... carried out with 7 different configurations of outfits, sets, and lighting; with a runtime of 90+ minutes. It's literally years in the making.
Can't wait for the next "grand season finale" type of video 🤩🤩🤩
It’s possibly her most simplistic and superficial essay. She’s outed herself as a liberal. I don’t think she can speak on the motivations of the left because she isn’t on the left.
for my money, it's the best video essay on this whole dang website. natalie is queen, and this is her magnum opus. (so far.)
As a gay opera singer who studied philosophy in college, Contra talking about Wagner and Nietzsche’s beef is the most catered to I’ve ever felt
I'm not a professional, but I love opera and read a lot of philosophy, and I am a full time gay; and it is actually kind of surreal just how much Contra's work feels like it's aimed personally at me.
@@TheYopogo “full time gay” is the best expression I’ve ever heard. I’m just imagining someone’s Twitter bio right now “He/his • 22 • only gay on Tuesdays”
When I was in college, I remember being super uncomfortable when we had to go over Nietzche. I remember our professor spending like 2 whole days lecturing on ressentiment. It must've had an impact on me because now my 2 favorite philosophers are probably Nietzche and Schopenhauer. There's something I find attractive about pessimistic philosophy. It feels real.
@@bernardosantos8020 roflmao
Wait you're a gay opera singer who studied philosophy?? You definitely are the most fitting Contrapoints fan I've come across ;)
Jealous of how short you managed to make this
I was thinking of your Pathologic video when reading her tweets complaining that the video is 2 hours long.
it’s ok, give us the long videos
Ojalá mis vídeos fueran tan largos y buenos como los vuestros, pura envidia
WHERE'S MY RWBY PART 2 VIDEO? HMMMM HAROLD?
I have watched your Pathologic video at least 4 times. If brevity is the soul of wit, I say witlessness is underrated
Envy destroyed a lot of my friendships. As a foster kid, then an emancipated minor, I envied my friends because they had non-abusive families who loved them & that's all I ever wanted. Christmases I ran away to avoid the pain of seeing the kindness of families who loved eachother. My friends envied me for those trips. A best friend said she didn't care what I'd been through -it didn't matter because I got to experience things she never had/weren't likely for her. Friends built up their perception of what my life was like & chose not to see my pain. I feel so validated by this video, thank you Natalie 💜
this is a tale of the lives of most of us. being taught to hide our pains behind an over-joyful social media representation of our lives is only making it worse
@@sinan.1946 being a foster kid is not the tale of the lives of most of us though, because not everyone was a foster kid. In good faith I think I can see what you were trying to express, but, to clarify, approiating this person's suffering by conflaiting it with more typical pain people all share in is inconsiderate at best, but much worse can be erasing or dismissive of their experience as a foster child (which brings a lot more implications to the table).
@@jamesparkerjohn this is the part that I could relate to, and maybe most of the others too: "A best friend said she didn't care what I'd been through -it didn't matter because I got to experience things she never had/weren't likely for her. Friends built up their perception of what my life was like & chose not to see my pain." I didn't mean any of the above that you wrote. if you say my comment implies all that, well maybe that's because English is my 3rd language and I can't choose appropriate words in delicate matters.
@@sinan.1946 thank you for clarifying what part you were talking about, it was an important distinction to make that wasn't clear before & that completely changes the meaning of what you were saying. while not everyone can claim the experiences of having been a foster kid, yes, parts of this person's quote express phenomenons that can relate to a lot of different people
I am not a foster kid but i was emotionally abused since toddlerhood, and still today i get an extreme emotional reaction to other people being affectionate to their families.
I start to cry, become really red and hot, feel this despair and want to kms on the spot.
Its like...a cPTSD flashback thing.
Pretty much.
As a transmasc who loves your videos, I've started referring to myself as a "biological female" which confuses absolutely everyone around me
based as hell
king behaviour
Transmasc? Are you just trying to deliberately be as ridiculous as possible by attaching labels to yourself that you think define your entire personality as someone superficially unique?
@SparkSparkle nah my comment wasn’t deleted, I just edited out a sentence that I felt wasn’t relevant and was inaccurate. So tell me what you want, what you really really want.
@sparksparkleomg please keep spamming transphobia with spice girls lyrics forever its perfect
Mother has acknowledged my existence. The feud has been resolved. I can die happy.
#feud 💀
Lmao
omg did not expect you here tf
Wattup white savior man, how's changing the world going ?
@@lovelywii lmaoo
Fun fact: I never was allowed to watch Spongebob because it was dumb and bad taste according to my mother. I was however allowed to watch Italian films about drug abuse and incest at thirteen, back when Pokemon was still “too violent”.
In my last therapy session I observed how most of our sessions consisted of getting rid of the bitter, envious lense through which my mother tought me to see. It was the squidwardian gaze all along..
i'm very sorry to say but that's a beautiful way to use the term 'squidwardian'
@@katherinalastname7077 one’s gotta name and face the internalized squidwardian maternal gaze when one sees it. How is She though?
holy shit same my mom HATED spongebob and courage the cowardly dog. she did find pokemon cute but i hated it cause i didn't like the art style lmao
If your mom is anything like my dad was, she probably found it really, really annoying
my mom also didn't let me watch spongebob because it would "make me stupid". jokes on you mom i'm stupid anyways
This is your best work yet. I keep coming back to it. Maybe the things you're presenting aren't groundbreaking in your circle, being educated and all, but to someone like me who isn't in education, who only has ideas and free audiobooks, this is amazing insight. Every time I rewatch this, a new piece is added to a bigger puzzle I've cobbled together with what I have.
Yup, I come from a rough background and my mom was nuts but she meant well so I’m not that educated I am educated but not the way Natalie is and I LOVE it.
Keep at it bb
I feel with you, Grew up a boy on a dirt road and drempt of being an auto body repair tech.
Now I'm a woman and a pilot / Mechanic who is trying to fill in the academic void.
@@spurgear4amazing character arc! Want to know what will happen next!
Where have you been all this time? How am I only finding this channel now? This is a masterpiece and you’re feeding my mind
In Hmong culture it is bad manners to tell someone their baby is cute, because if you do they believe a witch will overhear you and try to steal the baby. So it's customary to tell people they have ugly babies. Never thought about it before, but there sounds like a deep cultural understanding of envy.
woah, fascinating! thank you for sharing this
In the Balkans it's common, especially for older women, to tell babies something like " aww, look how ugly you are " as not to curse/hex them.
Same in India
So can I do that in western culture and say it's to protect them from the evil eye? I just don't think human babies look that good...
oops. we had/have a lot of hmong people in the city i grew up in up in michigan, and a family we were friends with had a little girl i said was cute all the time.
...
oh well i'm sure she's probably fine.
"She's not even a lesbian, she's Lebanese. Regina got confused."
Mind fucking blown
I'm so culturally illiterate I thought that originated with "Glee."
Also Regina's weird thing with Cady reads kinda sapphic so maybe she's projecting
Reminds me of that vine in which the girl says she's a lesbian and the boy replies "I thought you were american"
Regina is totally in love with Cady
I have seen the movie 30x and never made the connection.
"I wish more people could feel things without rushing to defense them" Yessss
Envy sounds like the perfect opposite of schadenfreude:
Schadenfreude is the pleasure in others misfortune,
Envy is the pain at the good fortune of others
Would you say they are opposites? To me these two concepts sound more like two sides of the same coin.
I think schadenfreude is the result of the envied person getting what the envier (envier? Is that a word?) thinks they deserve. I think it usually comes from envy
It is to feel happy about the disgrace of others. This is not good, specially when the other people have done nothing to you.
@@framhe6793 i mean the two sides of a coin are opposite each oterh
Why speak German? Just say epicaricacy.
Rather than believing that she's on a set or in her house, I choose to believe that Natalie has actually discovered the way to bring us into her subconscious
wouldn’t be surprised if it was her house! Baltimore has a lot of beautifully preserved architecture
Are we more than our thoughts?
Or the house is magical and is constantly shifting. She's either manipulating it or just going with the flow to spite the house, lol.
I just assumed she had like some Coraline style hidden section of her house.
She’s a Time Lord and her house is a TARDIS, bigger on the inside and full of infinite rooms.
Alain de Botton explained the difference between class consciousness/struggle and plain envy quite neatly: "You don't envy the Queen - she's too weird [ie, too far removed from my praxis and lived experience].. But you envy the people at your high school reunion."
I watched this guy you are talking about. Interesting opinion here, I think we tend to compare ourselves to our classmates rather than to some rich people, because we are coming from familiar circumstances as our classmates are. So if he/she succeeded, why I don't? We learnt the same lessons at school and their parents are the same class mine are! Super rich were always out of our reach anyways, so why would we compare ourselves to something with so different background we didn't live through?
Nevertheless, I don't like the channel of de Botton "School of life" where in majority of videos he says something like "everything in life is predicted by your bad childhood" and I felt myself so lost watching it. It felt like a black pill. Though my childhood wasn't even that bad. This guy sounds like pseudo intellectual.
English is not my 1st language if anything)
@@mykolatalankin7364 good take. also, school of life has been known to not make any meaningful/intellectual sense so your gut was right about that!
@@vanessap477 thanks!
Idk, I'm more envious of the Queen's wealth and power than my high school classmates' relationship issues and burnout from university and jobsearching...
@@katfujioka212 really? how come? for me, it's the reverse. I know plausible socioeconomic & political reasons why the monarchy is bad, but I won't feel that dreaded envious feeling looking at Lizzie. Now, with high school classmates, I have little to no reason to be envious; we all face the same shitty economy; yet I'm considering not coming to the reunion just because I think I'm gonna be a bitter betty who's going to ruin it for everybody.
"Moral Superiority often being the refuge of people with nothing better to feel superior about".
Woah, you hit the nail in the head so hard with that one!
My husband and I recently immigrated to Mexico and the fear of envy is high here. You can walk down the street, all the buildings are dilapidated and then you go inside and are blown away by how beautiful the homes, restaurants and hotels are….
Usually people migrate OUT of Mexico......
@@lifenote1943we have universal healthcare, maternity leave, sick leave and free university. No wonder Americans are moving to Mexico.
@@lifenote1943Some people do, it depends on the conditions. Which is the condition to migrate? When you have need of money, to support several children, and having little studies.
@@lifenote1943only the people that are struggling live there countries, and that’s usually the uneducated sector of the population.
I mean you also got an insane level of organised crime running rampant.@@alejandramoreno6625
God it was so validating to hear someone articulate the parallel between Squidward/SpongeBob and Salieri/Mozart. I think in these episodes SpongeBob is never really “who we were as children”-not a genuine picture of childhood-but a resentful adult’s warped vision of childhood. Happy, smiling, creative, perfect on accident; destroys your toys, never gets in trouble, YOU get in trouble; God’s favorite; mom’s favorite. And Squidward needs him desperately. In that episode where he moves to that all-squid ethnostate, life becomes unbearable and he starts playing like SpongeBob; he BECOMES the local SpongeBob! Why? Because “being annoyed by SpongeBob” is the cornerstone of Squidward’s identity. If SpongeBob did not exist, Squidward would have to invent him…
Brilliant
“all-squid ethnostate” My sides 💀💀💀
All squid ethnostate is outstanding well done
I envy your insight...
having never watched a whole spongebob episode this is the kind of analysis that makes me want to watch it
The deep analysis of Spongebob through the lens of envy was not something I knew that I needed but definitely something I thoroughly enjoyed in this piece.
You NEED to dress up as sandy in one of your videos it'd be soooo iconic
Like 1999-2003, like Nat it's still on air.
Analyzing Spongebob that deeply is pretty Zizekian. Loved it!
Watch EmpLemon's SpongeBob video. He makes similar points, but in a bit of a different way.
At around 53:00
What if I think im superior than the spongebobs?
"The resentment ideologue always imagines himself as engaged in some kind of satanic revolt against an omnipotent omnipresent enemy"
Girl part of my job is writing political speeches and i dont ever think ive even seen a banger like that. You seriously know how to weaponise the english language. I admire you.
I used language like that for a final essay for one of my undergrad classes and when i personally write about what I want to as opposed to having to do a certain topic, i can craft some real bangers and I wouldn't be surprised of that applied to others as well
@@juliahart8593
Definitely. When working in politics you meet some people who really understand how to use language - and make it look easy.
Natalies academic background definitely shines through when you see her discuss general ideology via her ability to dissect dogmatism
This made me realize that I'm just a ball of envy. I always believed that jealousy and envy were the same, but now I've literally realized that I'm not really jealous of others but hella envious. I have the whole, "I struggled so others have to too" mentality and I know that it's toxic but I don't know if I can truly unlearn it.
You can, I believe in you. I've seen others do it, and I'm on that journey too.
the strange thing is, all these people we are envious of, struggle too, they just have different struggles...
to spread the struggle to everyone, this is done professionally by politicians and priests alike.. it is common for people to want this
sharing of suffering..
the ceo who wants so badly to get his products sold, is looking to free himself of the pain he experiences.. of his suffering, his dreams, his desires
you are not all that bad believe me.. the fact that you see this in yourself, allready distinquishes you from many others, who not only
think such thoughts or have such feelings, but actively try to bring as much people as possible in their sphere of suffering..
what is there to unlearn? being human?
you are a vast being, connected to the whole universe, .. pinpointing your flaws.. it isn't a big deal.. it doesn't diminish your god-being!
Well, the first step in unlearning it is realizing it, so you're on the right track!
Honestly, you could just embrace it. Hate the world, it can be fun
I definitely unlearned it, but I am still flawed, and I can't even tell you what made me unlearn it. I think it has to do with me going to therapy and being humbled by the therapist, and facing some of my demons.
It is easy to feel happy for others, once you are willing to forgive the ones that caused you your pain.
And forgiving doesn't mean excusing it, it just means you make peace with the fact that others are flawed humans too.
The year is 2036. Originally announced in 2025, the new Contrapoints video has just dropped. It is over 54 hours long and has 62 costume changes with 41 distinct catgirl outfits. The topic is Lust, and all major video sharing sites refuse to host it out of obscenity concerns. It will go on to win an EGOT.
I want this future for myself.
You were number one!
please i need this future
Who are you and why are you so on point
update, it got moved to 2058
"kids these days have it so easy" has always been a weird take to me... like, isn't that the point? aren't we, as a species, constantly working to make life better for our children? lmao
It's like the difference between "I suffered, and now everyone else must too" and "I suffered, and I never want anyone to suffer like I did". I find one of those mindsets much more healthy -- AND more empowering.
"Nothing matters more to me than family. I want to make this world a better place for my children.... NO NOT THAT WAY!"
I wonder if its because even if we're told to care about the next generation's future, we're still scared about our own mortality.
Bad times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create bad times. Ironic, cyclical, true.
tbh i dont understand why old people envy us as if i dont envy my boomer uncle who went to art school in the 80s and paid his whole tuition by working at jack in the box
I've always related to "envy" whenever I was asked what 7 deadly sin am I. I'm physically disabled, autistic, and trans. I have a lot to want. I was angry at other kids for being able to skip.
I am a lot like you, but for me, I've found comfort in "New Nihilism". I know that's a hell of a thing to just chime in and say, but it takes a lot of the edge off, for me.
That, and lots of substances. I beg for death.
its good you point out the seven deadly sins since this video is full of christian morality and status quo garbage about how invalid class struggle is. 'its just envy'
@@user-qm2kt8fx3jthe video that says that envy is not, as Freud says, the main reason for social justice struggles- that envy is just as if not more influential in oppressive bigotries and from the more to less powerful (envy of welfare queens, illegal immigrants, middle class to lower class)? and… “Christian morality”? I mean, that’s without saying influential from someone trained in “Western” philosophy… but this video also relies on (from the top of my head) at least 2 Jewish (Freud and Dworkin) perspectives and the Arabic concept of the evil eye… to be fair, neither of these things make it less true that it could be relying on Christian morality (both those Jewish thinkers were in Christian contexts, Arabic =/= non-Christian but this is a generally Arabic and therefore obviously at least as influenced by Islam). But even so…
be real, are you only just in the beginning of the video (the only part that IMO supports such a claim) or just trolling?
@@baintreachas Unfortunately, i do have to agree that this video is quite a bit too enthousiastic about the idea that egalitarianism is just hidden resentment. With the implication that it is therefore even more sinister than open resentment. The part about Nietzsche was particularly hard to watch. You CAN tape a small section about how "some people care about other people sometimes", but after a 20min fangirling session of Nietzsche it rings kind of hollow.
@@Kidomaru222 I honestly don’t get how you could walk away with that, tho I’m sure I’m missing something. That concept is basically just at the Freud part, and even the criticism of various egalitarian movements/groups (like the feminist infighting part) specifically mostly has nothing to do with it. Of course you could say “well sometimes critique of peers w higher social status is legitimate and a justified manifestation of an egalitarian impulse” but sometimes it’s not. This video is obviously about the latter, and I think it’s fine to do an artistic examination of that without adding constant disclaimers
I don’t see the issue w the Nietzche part personally, but maybe I don’t know enough about the meta/context around Nietzche to get what’s so off putting about it (I’ve read him and about him but from a very different angle/field of study in mind). I’d be interested to hear more about it
The foreshadowing to the twilight video is so interesting.
This video made me realize that every time I say “it’s not worth doing anyway” I’m really envious of how easily some people seem to go to parties, dating, education, intimacy, having fun etc. and realizing that, kind of gave me my power back to actually go and work on my mental illness and practice self care, instead of projecting on to everyone else. I can change how I look at things. It was a relief ❤️
It’s not your mental health. Just eat right and lift weights. Delete your insta too. Going to therapy and popping pills wouldn’t help. I mean look at the opioid crisis. Go to church on weekends instead. God is watching all of us. May god show you the light and help you feel better.
I kind of have this weird envy of my younger self for this. In my 20s I was literally going to two to three parties a week, sometimes that many in a night. Now, shit, I go to the pub with the same three guys I was going to the pub with in my 20s, 20 years ago, but its just us, drinking moderately and discussing what resturant we go to. And while that itself is pretty great, I miss the social butterfly life, but honestly, I just am not capable of partying 3-4 nights a week whilst still holding down a job and having responsibilities and shit. I mean, there was a lot that sucked about my 20s, romantic fuckups hurt a lot more (in your 40s dating failures have a tendency to be kind of "Well ok that didn't work, hey lets catch up for a beer sometime?" ) and all the bad substances flying around in the 90s didn't make for a stable life. But still... I envy my younger self.
@@sohailahmads they say they have a mental illness and ya'll come in like nah it's just Instagram
Lol wtf lol
@@shayneoneill1506 is one party a week an option?
@@sohailahmads LMFAOOOO not the gym bro thinking mental illness isn’t real- I hate to tell you this but...
only natalie can go from “in the short time that you’re alive you have to discover that which is noble in yourself and say yes to it” to “spongebob squarepants is the uber mench” in under ten seconds and i love her for that
the saddest thing that even as a child I identified with squidward. Felt sorry for Tom and the coyote too, didn't like any show where the characters were locked in a constant struggle with no hope of improving or moving forward.
just want to say I find your compassion for these characters to be moving. i think to identify with them at some points in life doesn't necessarily equal a life sentence to their fate. maybe being aware of it signals a need for change. like these characters, rather than being locked in a conflict against the other, one could choose to disengage and try something new. I felt the same for them too.
@@mangywolf Thank you.
@heyhey I related to Tom as a child too! I was afraid I'd end up like him and I felt so, so sorry for him! You brought up excellent points!
We're all about feline empowerment around here
I always despised Jerry
It was... certainly an experience when I started to realize that my "not like other girls" tendencies of looking down on those with a different lifestyle than mine, people who I perceived to have more actual social power and status, was born of envy. And I'd never really recognized the tendency to turn a feeling of inferiority into one of superiority by moralizing things that don't need to be moralized, but... it's a real tendency, huh
You can tell this video is classy and smart because when it references A Christmas Carol, it uses the Muppet version. It's the best, don't argue. It just is.
People that use the word "classy" are anything but.
@@computerman790 Right? And Michael Caine is just fucking killing it. His absolute refusal to act like hes in anything but a serious adaptation of a classic novel is perfect.
@@aaron.umbarger ew
@@abbyamy28523 the celebrity worship is pretty gross, I agree.
I humbly submit for consideration the recent version where every character is played by Jefferson Mays
Considering she mostly seems to use her house, Natalie's sense for creating sets with such distinct stylings is amazing. Let alone the accompanying costuming that goes with it. Quite aside from the riveting and well researched discussion points, the production value is just top notch.
Her creativity is ✨🔥🔥👌❤️❤️
I tried to give you an award for your comment. I’ve been on Reddit too much. But here anyway. 🏅
It’s official, Bo Burnham ripped off Contrapoints.
But be a creatives heaven with all the costumes and the use of lightning to make it look sifferent,is amazing. Thats skill. But the amount of things must be a looot. Creative used of course and more good selection over mass. Including toys?! All hail the lobster queen!
Wait, that's her house?😳
It's so pretty.
My mom caught me watching this and she was amazed I listen to a beautiful woman talk about political philosophy for two hours as my idea of having fun in my free time.
But Natalie makes it fun
There are no words to express how much I love this video. It's seriously a therapy session.
Natalie, I understand if you don’t read the dirty, filthy comments anymore to save your mental health (when will I ever learn this lesson?), but girl, your videos always floor me with their quality. Everything- concept, delivery, set design, costume design, makeup, props, it is all so completely worth however many hours I’m watching each video. There are so few content creators (of any kind, including movies) that I will happily stfu and sit down for 2 hours. You always have my full, undivided attention, Queen.
use abby's solution - it's usually a small number of people so shadowbanning is disproportionally effective
@@mattleofric1766 Get down of your high horse, my dude.
I do read some, and tysm!
ngl, i will go back over videos sometimes just to =look= at them. there is a lot of labour and a lot of love put into these. natalie is an artist even above being a scholar(and assuredly she is a scholar)
dang you got noticed by senpai! and well put!
For a lot of Africans, it's common for the family to emigrate to America without telling the kids until you leave because the kids might tell someone outside of the family and other people might curse your trip out of envy.
so true. never tell people what you have has always been a message from childhood. i always thought it was so that other kids won't be your friend for what you have, rather than other families being envious.
When you say "a lot of Africans", do you probably know specifically which countries exactly in Africa are we talking about?
@@sadhusq I'm Kenyan and it's common for us. I've heard Somalians and Nigerians say this too
As a middle eastern I must add that our parents actually did not allow us to say goodbye to relatives until we were in the other country.seemed funny to us at the time.
I just literally cannot understand the magical thinking that fuels that sort of behavior.
I used to envy my best friend a lot and I straight up told her that. I’m so grateful she still comfortable being my friend.
I'm still struggling with this problem for years. How do u cope with it?
@@alifasaurus4521 For me I think being honest and talking with my friend about this actually helped a lot. We were both only teenagers back then and had no emotional boundaries lol. It lessened the guilt and shame I felt towards my own envy and prevented it from becoming a vicious cycle that would be messier than it already was.
Another thing is just with time I gradually realized that regardless of the miserable feeling I often have, I still love my friend, and I do wish that she gets all the best things in the world, even if I may not be able to get the same.
I don’t know if this is helpful cuz it’s just my personal journey, but hope you feel better☺️
@@leiasleeping1282 I have the same problem, and I also just told her, but it is NOT getting better in the slightest.
And I'm not sure how it ever could get better. She copied my dream as a teenager - when people asked what I wanted to be, I said an astrophysicist, because that had been my dream and my passion since kindergarten. She never knew what to say, so eventually she started just saying what I said.
Now she is in the process of finishing her university degree in it, extremely successful, perfect relationship, skinny and beautiful, and I'm gonna drop out because I can't do it and I'm just getting fatter and lonelier.
How can I not forever hate her?
@@baguettegott3409 oh my god that sounds so awful icl, i would resent her for it cause its like she stole what you were supposed to be,,, but then i feel that resentment would be unproductive and make you just fester
@@baguettegott3409 I'm going to be honest with you, I've never been in your exact situation, but I do understand the feeling of failure. Similarily to you, I've always told people I wanted to be a physicist, I had perfect grades until my mental health took a toll on me and I almost lost a year of high school. I don't recognize myself anymore, I am ashamed of what I've becomed and I resent my past self for fxcking up so much lmao. I see why you might resent her, it's as if she stole a part of your identity and is living the life you were supposed to live. But hasn't she taken enough from you? Are you going to let the thought of her living the life you desire, take away the life you have now? My advise for you is to reflect; reflect on your life from the earliest memory to now, and ask yourself, what has brought me here? Try to identify the patterns, and to not blame yourself for what was out of your control. From then, try to think about your future, realistically, what do you want to do from now on? And, how will you do it?
Also, writing your feelings down helps more than you might think, it's like free therapy just that you don't really have an outsider's pov of what happened, nor a guide to ask the right questions.
I really hope you are able to fulfill your goals, and remember that everybody has a right for a new begining. Even if things don't go exactly as we hope, everything might be worth it in the end, that's what I tell myself at least. I hope you have a nice day
Bookmarking 21:04 to 21:24 "Being envied is basically the opposite of being loved, in conflict with our need to be loved" quote
In Vietnamese culture, there's no language for "oldest child" or "first-born child." The first child born to a family is called "second sister" or "second brother" followed by "third sister/brother" for the second-born and so on. This is to protect the first-born against being subject to evil-eye-like envious evil forces.
Yes, ish, that is a Southern practice, whereas people in the North do refer to first-borns as "and ca" which loosely translates to "great brother"
A better example I'd say is the practice of giving children "ugly" names (e.g., dog, penis, etc.) as to protect them against being taken by evil forces. There are cases where some of these children go to change their official names later in life. I know that it is a practice in the South, but not sure if that is also the case in the North. It is also talked about in the novel "On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous" by Ocean Vuong.
@@AlejandroLamKhoa We have that in (south india) Telugu culture, to add 'dung' as a prefix in a name to avoid evil eye. Especially if there were any prior miscarriages or early deaths of children. There is also a a practice of placing a black dot on the face of infants/brides/grooms for the same reason.
Woaaaa so that's why. I'm Vietnamese and I didn't know the explanation until now
every time you upload it feels like a national holiday
Lmao wait- all of my fav youtubers are here.. love your content girlie!!
Let's go bois!
Right? I have a whole meal and bath prepared as I binge every new ContraPoints video
IFKRRRRR
Because she uploads so sparsely?
This video is so validating. Due to envy, a coworker that was promoted to my manager one time yelled at me, would tell me very condescending comments, acted like i didnt exist when it benefitted her,and would never let me have the last word (even if proven wrong). The clue came out when she told me "your life is perfect." Bitch I'm an immigrant with ptsd, I hope karma gets her back, I ain't above being petty
Off to the guillotine with her!
This video deadass made me realize how much ive been letting my life be controlled by envy and pride. It has been quite a humbling realization
We are ready, mother
A man who's Muscular AND loves Contrapoints?
We have a peak Chad right here.
Well said
Whenever I hear people complain about “kids these days have it easy” I think about this one quote by John Adams that I saw online.
“I must study politics and war, that our sons may have the liberty to study mathematics and philosophy . . . In order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, and architecture.”
If the kids have it easy now, hopefully that's because of something you or your generation did right, so stop complaining and start being happy about it already, it might even be your accomplishment!
I, on the other hand, think of Monty Python's Four Yorkshire Men sketch :P
I always remember that I was once a ‘kid these days.’ It’s never about the kids, it’s about who’s yelling that the loudest. People just need to stop-it’s embarassing
I guess at least it's hard to make a "kids these days have it easy" argument now that we've been through/continue to go through a literal plague (unless they're one of the deniers of said plague).
I usually reply with a quote from Plato or Aristotle complaining about the youth of their time. Resenting the young is time honoured tradition.
there's a Brazilian saying that goes "the strength of your envy is the speed of my success"
Como se diz?
@@abigailpew8383 a força da tua inveja é a velocidade do meu sucesso. muito adesivado em carros merda
I’ve watched this video essay ~10 times, and Peppermint reading out the angry, cynical happy birthday tweet still makes me laugh every time. Love you Natalie, your unique blend of wit and intellect impresses me endlessly ❤
So far we have Lust (Incels), Greed (Capitalism 1 and 2), Pride (Opulence), Wrath (Canceling), and now Envy. We gotta get those last two videos on Sloth and Gluttony.
and then we can move on to the four horsemen of the apocalypse
She already made a video on fat shaming that touches the themes of overweight people being treated as gluttonous
Gluttony is the hard part. Sloth will just be about... sloths.
the seven deadly catgirls uwu
Omg I never realized this theme in her videos what the hell
I laughed, I cried, and I felt like I had a little bit of therapy
And you narrated too, or did I just imagine that was your voice?
@@NadiraJamal dude I SWEAR I heard her voice at 43:49! I think the voice credit names at the end are pseudonyms 👀
If Natalie could just therapize the entire planet once a month or so I’m convinced that something like 80% of the world’s problems would vanish
Yeah I'm pretty sure I heard your voice too. Just a fantastic bonus to a fantastic video. 😊
Totally!
I’ve listened to this at work so many time I’ve become convinced it’s one of those works that captures an essential part of the time it was made. I sincerely hope this video essay makes it into, like, “History of the 21st Century” or something.
I sincerely want everyone I know to watch this over and over until they understand. I don't think it's possible for me to put an exact marker on anything I've ever watched that has changed my life and how I think more than this one. I love this video so much.
Coming back to this after some people on Twitter decided that a woman enjoying happiness & having a morning coffee routine with her skateboarding yoga teacher husband... is bad, actually! 🧿
Watching “The Desire for Mommy’s Milk” section while breastfeeding was an experience.
Aryan Pandey 😰🥶
@@aryanpandey7284 Lol I knew it was only a matter of time before someone made this kind of joke.
Causes of bisexuality in women, listed by order of decreasing importance:
1. Natalie Wynn asking, "do you wanna be bad with me?"
2. Being born this way
Causes of bisexuality in previously gay men uses the same list.
Yes! I have a huge girl crush after this video!! Will go gay for Natalie.
Now 3X as gynosexual.
"Who counts as the rich? Do I count as the rich? I certainly hope so. Because I want you to eeeeaaaat meeeeeee."
Hi im new here and let me say i was BLOWN AWAY by the constumes,the research,the points connecting,the jokes the EVERYTHING I LOVE IT!!!! best 1 hour and 48 minutes of my life
“I try to support smaller creators (like Paris Hilton, who doesn’t have as many followers as I do)” - Natalie, 2021
(This made my month)
who’s Paris Hilton?
@@Vivivofi Isn't she that instagram influencer??
@@Vivivofi Paris thinks Paris is a big deal...
Honestly, I felt the seemingly abrupt ending was appropriate for the point you were making, saying yes to life felt like suddenly being freed from the doom spiral of envy, not because envy is gone, but accepted for what it is and moved past to doing things that are worthwhile
"Acknowledging the feeling without endorsing it"
you're wellcome for you're 666th like
@@italucenaz Epic! Thank you 🌟
Amen to that. At the end of the day, we are responsible for our own happiness.
Also notice how most of the celebrities who were most viciously attacked for trying to do the right thing...were women.
I watch this video every year bc it really does speak to me on such a deep level.
I don’t know why, but envy has been something I have struggled with my entire life. Envy, not jealousy. I wished for the downfall and utter annihilation of people I saw as better than me.
This deep dive has honestly single handedly made me more aware of how destructive that dark desire was to my mental health.
Good that you share that.. would help a lot of people that don't recognize that one can't fight nihilism...
The middle class white lady version of only buying small parcels of land at a time to avoid envy is to make sure to tell people "But I got it on clearance!"
😆🤣😅
"Oh, this old acre? I got it at a thrift store. Look, it even has pockets!"
Truuuuu
This clapped hard
Well, that was a fun hour and forty-eight minutes of personal attacks.
"In conclusion: Spongebob is the Übermensch" broke me compeltely in half
"One of the many stupid feelings humans are capable of having is the private, repulsive rage of seeing someone getting support and sympathy for a problem no one helped *you* with when you were having it, either because you didn’t have anyone or because it never occurred to you that you *could* ask for help. Suddenly the world seems to split into two - the realm that contains people like them, the connected and loved - and the realm that contains you, the miserable and the alone, who must suffer in solitude. This is sufficiently horrible that you grasp for reasons or world-understandings to make this reality acceptable, and a mentally available one is that it is *superior* to be in the miserable solitude realm, that the problem is one that *should* be solved with self sufficiency and dignity. That this other person is pathetic for being aided and loved when you were not. Scorn is more palatable than confronting the notion that you *could* have received aid (if you had made different choices or been luckier), that you desperately wish you could have been aided but were not. Scorn is more palatable than the howling hunger for things to have been different for you. So your mind chooses scorn. It is also a bad place to be. Human existence is full of such traps."
source: etirabys
to conclude:
*spongbob was the answer all along*
You have selective listening. Creativity with no discipline doesn't work either.
@@kellyrobinson1274 I think is a ... how do you say ... joke
@@kellyrobinson1274 It's obvious humor isn't in your top 5 enjoyments.
Squidwardian Archetypes
Spongebob is the answer to everything.
Okay I know it's fun to joke around in the comments but I just want to say, this video feels like SUCH a fantastic combination of ALL the topics you've covered over the past three years. Incels, trans liberation, beauty, justice, aesthetics, opulence, all these concepts are touched upon and woven together to enhance the point you're making about envy. This is really, really beautifully crafted work, thank you for this Natalie ❤️
Like, when she was just about done talking about Marie Antoinette, my mind briefly recognized that this Envy topic gave me similar vibes to the "Justice- part 1" video and how I really wished we'd get it.
*Cue Fan-opening transition to Natalie dressed as a Supreme Court Justice in cat ears*
I screamed. I screamed like I was watching the climax of the Infinity Saga. Maybe even moreso.
@@aghadlarhen9397 I will forgive all of Biden's Centrist clownry if he gives us Supreme Court Justice Nyatalie Wynn.
You’re so right! Thanks for pointing this out. Absolutely loved the video.
Yessss!!!
I feel like, in the last few years we’ve seen such a change in this channel, and in Natalie … each new video is another step along the journey.
🤷♀️ idk where where we’re going to end up, but … it’s gotten interesting, for sure! 💜
11:17 the intro is probably the reason why I rewatched this video so much, it's just such good music & editing, gives me chills everytime I listen to it
34:10 she literally predicted the reaction conservatives are having to biden's student loan debt forgiveness
Her comment about the English monarchy was funny to listen to now that the Queen's dead, lolol
I can't quite get the Snow White analysis out of my head - cause like, the Queen can literally change the way she looks using magic. She could just make herself hotter! That would, ostensibly, fix all her problems. But instead, she makes herself uglier to trick and attempt to kill Snow White. But I've literally never noticed this - the possibility that the Queen could have reached an amicable solution by improving herself instead of attacking Snow White is so far out of the purview of our culture that it doesn't even present itself.
Oh shit, that last line. Actually could be a new moral out of that story, that self-improvement should be aimed for, considering the Queen still considered the villain in that story.
Purvue?
@@thebiggestcauldron purview*, I didn't make up the word just the spelling lol
I’ve seen that once - in the parody work of “politically correct fairytales”
@@sailorplanetmars6103 But in reality, that would probably be esthetic surgery and all the others things done to conform to beauty injonctions that are very very very much in our culture.
So I would've agree with your comment if it was self improvement about personnality, or physical self improvement but not out of fear of rejection/loneliness/craving for recognition and love, but for self love/health.
“Cruelty is only pleasurable as long as they can convince themselves it’s something other than cruelty; justice served.” So true.
r/justiceserved
I learned that when you are being subject to ridicule, joining in on your ridicule "takes away the fun" because your pain hightens their pleasure.
This connects with something I learned. Sometimes, seemingly decent people can do terrible things or support genocide. And this happens in the name of "the greater good". So I think this is a different, psychological facet of the same thing.
@@redunkulous9901 - IKR? Weaponise your cringe, embrace your dehumanisation in a voidpunk manner, say "jokes on you I'm into that shit" and watch the light die from the eyes of your ridiculers when they realise they lost their punching bag
Anything less than brutal Violence against a system that has us by the throat can ONLY be cruelty, no matter how many times it calls itself “progress” “reform” “justice”.
This is literally the only time I've understood what the Apollonian and the Dionysian are supposed to be.
Thank you Natalie.
Thank you Spongebob and Squidward.
this video changed me fundamentally and I comeback to watch it from time to time.
At about 47 minutes in Natalie says “isn’t rationality itself oftentimes just an attempt to make our feelings contagious?” And I think it’s the most profound and interesting observation she’s ever made on this channel.
Glad someone else took a strong note of that! Thought I was crazy when it kept echoing inside my mind for the rest of the vid
If you like that concept, then Vsauce's recent video "The Future of Reasoning" explores it in-depth, and he references the book "The Enigma of Reason" by Dan Sperber and Hugo Mercier, himself.
rationality is oftentimes an attempt to make our feelings easier to spread? can someone go into a bit of detail on how so? i don’t fully get it to be honest
@@Vivivofi I think basically we have "gut reactions" or instinctive feelings about things, and then we look for reasons that justify why we feel that way.
@@JLittleBass oh yeah that’s definitely a thing haha, yeah that makes sense to me but i guess it’s just the wording of the quote that’s throwing me off haha
I started like "I'm not gonna watch the full video", finished one hour later wanting more (as always).
It's almost 2 hours long
that's what she said
@@Noissimsarm Maybe they watched it on 2x speed?
For realz
@@Noissimsarm yes. Very good 👏. Which means they realized it an hour in. R/wooosh
49:37-47:57 OH MY GOD THANK YOU
So there is this weird stalker person that won't leave me alone, and has a massive crush on me. Recently, they dyed their hair to my exact color, cut it to my exact cut, and dressed like me. And that put me off so much harder. As an older sibling, I kind of got used to the copying, in a sibling aspect, I guess, but oh my god in a connotation where the thing is romantic it makes me want to rip out my eyes.
That's creepy and scary af! Stay safe 💚.
Baffled at how this content is free. This is so good.
ad revenue (maybe) and Patreon, that’s how
she makes crazy money on patreon and this is a promo for her patreon:P regardless of this I really like the content and not saying she doesn't deserve that, just saying:)
the queen has returned, and she comes bearing content
@then ur awesome reported you for spam :)
I prayed for this just 2 days ago. Lo we hath been bequeathed.
yess
The best gift of all :)
GO STREAM WHOLE LOTTA MONEY remix Nicki Minaj(make sure your streaming right ) 🦄💰🔥- what are you waiting for ?
Not since Plato's heyday has thirst trapping people into philosophy been so viable
i am hoping Plato did thirst trap people into philosophy. man was buff.
@@nicolesong6199 Plato wasn't even his real name, it was his wrestling name and meant "broad." It's the equivalent of people 2000 years from now learning about the great 21st century philosopher, the Rock.
@@tedculbertson6320 it's about drive, it's about episteme
@@tedculbertson6320 omg like a platypus!
@@OjoRojo40 This is about Natalie being snatty, stop hiding in my replies and make your own comment
I‘m watching this video one year later for the first time and it brought me to a really positive headspace which I don’t have that often since I’m mentally ill.
Thank you, Natalie! 💜
I'm almost through with it but what does it really say than DONT BE ENVIOUS BECAUSE ENVY BAD?
@@nico-nico-nia2069 I don’t remember exactly, but it was the closing words that made me feel like this
@@alexelion7084 yea I just saw it now. Very much empowerment of taking responsibility, more or less using envy as a progressing force instead of a regressing force. Whole sublimation and what not. Cool message, just difficult to take aboard.
Natalie's skin is glowing and her hair is absolutely gorgeous. She looks so good in this video. It's not a good look tbh...how dare she flaunt her beauty and eloquence in front of us less fortunate.
I'm disappointed in her. Problematic. :/
There is a saying in Mexico,
"Someone envious does not want what you have, they just don't want you to have it".
How's that in Spanish, if I may ask you?
@@spectradream
"el envidioso no quiere lo que tú tienes, Sólo quiere que tú no lo tengas."
We have a same saying in Czech: If our neighbor has a goat, we don't want to have a goat as well. We want his goat to die.
@@Posiman in Serbia it's a cow lol
I really love each country having a version of this
This had EVERYTHING we needed from you - Nietzsche, Freud, inappropriate sex jokes, leftist politics, Paris Hilton, Spongebob, John Milton, Marie Antoinette, looking with fear at the depths of the human psyche, references to the Ancient world, existential angst, black magic, Cain y Abel, incels, Dostoevsky and Tolstoy.
also catgirls, incels, and the kardashians
and milfs, you forgot milfs. i fully cackled out loud at "john milfton"
And reading Janis for filth, a better costume for Gaga's Judas video and a lot of all of it.
attempts to speak german, reference to Citizen Kane
Also a reference to the works of L. Ellis
i love how i can rewatch these videos every few months. it’s like they get better every time i rewatch?you’re so MOTHER for that
As a leftist who falls victim to many of these habits, I have to say that most leftists badly need to hear this, but will ~resent~ hearing it.
She really just said "justice is tied to envy" as a massive philosophical conclusion and put it online for free in an entertaining consumable package
yeah... where else am i going to get this learning with this "realness"
Also said conservative politics is tied to it. I think this video is to think in a way when justice can be productive and not self-cannibalistic
Justice does not have to equal sameness or assimilation; and justice and equality are not the same thing.
Thus, envy as a consequence of differences in relative perception of capacity and other ‘envies’ can only exist in relation to normativity.
Therefore, justice would only exist relative to normativity.
The less normative the represented subject, the less justice applicable
which this sophist would indicate ad absurdum envy to also be the source of the trans impetus, and the reason for desire of bodily augmentation and adaptation to create new ‘bodies without/with more or less organs’.. how would you indicate the complexities of envy and pity that someone with a well paying job but a broken spine and thus paralysis might have for someone who is mentally disabled and unable to work but with a nearly ‘perfect’ normative beautiful body which they enjoy to the limits of its capacity?
I would say it depends mostly on the imagined differences between their mental self-actualization: but then envy, the negative projection of oneself onto the subject , cannot work: your mind already has two distinct images, the mistaking of the two wholes as parts of one is impossible when you have two very clear limits and extensities (paralysis vs physicality just as an example). Envy is simply the paranoid view of the subaltern’s differentiation from you,
You could tack on more ‘envies’ which are really just boundaries and planes of differentiation:
mental processing disorders like dyslexia and adhd
the actually quantized and not gradient ‘autism spectrum’
ability to focus
To form memory,
To ‘clearly’ (linearly and normatively) think.
But it’s clear that these “envies” at the very least serve a ‘dual function’ as both the object of envy and the object of privilege, as understood by the subject of both envy and privilege (the envied).. but as the subaltern, unheard ‘envier’ knows, the very reason for the perception of relative privilege is the same as the reason for the perception of ‘envy’.
Thus, envy serves as a license, in this philosophy, for the differentiation and distinction of relative privilege, but only from the perspective of the envied.
The envier is caught up in representation as a subject, Orientalized, ‘viewed backward’, and since their envy is caught up as data,
even the most rigorous analysis can avoid the task of unbinding the envy-actor from their subalternity, allowing them to speak,
speak not only in the boundaries of the ontology which has been traced from and reconnected to them (like all colonial projects of knowing)
..the subaltern may be asked of their mental whereabouts relative to the envy “how have you experienced what has engendered this envy?”
But they will not be empowered, there will be no reversal to imagine them as the ones asking the questions, the ‘subjects of the envied’.. cynicism.
It's true, and also false. You going to stand there and say that a slave was envious of their master's freedom? As though it were a psychological pathology? Ok, sure. Maybe we can say desire not to be enslaved is born from envy of master's freedom. But where envy theory falls apart is: they wanted to end slavery, not enslave the master. The idea that envy is "if I cant have it you can't either" what happens to all social movements that want to eradicate somethibg? How is that fit into the envy logic of "if I can't have it you can't either"
In my opinion, Natalie has managed to conquer the pinnacle of information transmission. Educating is not an easy task. Students get easily distracted when classes are condensed into hard theory without everyday examples with which you can identify. However, Natalie manages to keep you entertained and focused for the two hours of the video! Bringing up SpongeBob or trying to catch a toy dressed as a cat woman are just a few of the many brilliant executions that allowed me to concentrate when I began to not understand the theory of her arguments. I really want techniques like these to be implemented in education systems, especially Universities and specifically in Medical School.
if my teachers don't start wearing cat ears and lounging naked in rose petal tubs while educating me on the moral ambiguity of life im not going back to school.
Is it genuinely too much to ask? Why are we generally keeping entertainment separed from utility? Are we taping into the future by wondering that? I like to think we are.
@@sunongral5605 real talk? It might be. Making this one video was a huge undertaking. Im not sure if it’s a reasonable expectation for teachers to be so sociologically analytical, psychologically literate, and emotionally articulate all the time? It’s crazy cool that we get to live in a world with Nat in it, a world where her work can be immortalized and accessed by folks from all over the world for years to come. But how long will her analysis remain relevant with the times? Are we greedy to expect geniuses like her to selflessly and continuously keep this immaculately constructed, beautifully educational dialogue running indefinitely? Idk maybe. Nat deserves the right to step away if she wishes. But suppose she does? Her shoes will not go so easily filled.
True. I think there's a fine line that when crossed the spectacle of the theatrical play becomes a distraction that weighs the actual information down, making it hard to follow the actual points. But luckily Natalie is one of the few (or the one and only amongst the few who do this kind of thing) TH-camrs who manages to not cross that line and keep it in an artful balance.
I would love to see a college professor start chasing a cat toy mid-sentence.
after seeing most of contrapoints’ essays multiple times, i’m certain that absurdism is the only philosophical lens through which to navigate the world
this changed the trajectory of my life and i’ve watched it obsessively since it came out
I think in the pizza moment in Spongebob Squarepants, Squidward sees himself in Spongebob for an instance: despite all of his efforts he failed. What is a moment for Spongebob is Squidward's whole life. So when they're “on the same level”, in his eyes, he can care about Spongebob and he stands up for him. Maybe I'm over-analyzing because it's one of my favorite moments in the show.
No I agree it’s a super touching moment! And it’s reciprocated at the end of “Band Geeks” when Spongebob arranges Squidward’s one moment of victory
Dude. This is some next level spongebob right here.
@@ContraPoints why did this comment make me tear up
Now this is some high level discourse
@@ContraPoints Natalie, you're giving me feels about Spongebob STOPPPPPPPP
This feels like a culmination of what Natalie has said in "Incels" and "Opulence", like those were building blocks to a bigger statement. Like the "Endgame" of the Contrapoints Cinematic Universe.
yeah one of the extra cool things about contrapoints (the channel) is that each vid stands alone, but if you're familiar with other videos you can see how Natalie's thinking develops and how the topics discussed in different videos are related
Don't forget Justice. We got the whole part two within this video
@@Manoomu yes! I had not reached that point at the time of the comment. It's basically a feature film!
also the Justice p2 segment continuing from Justice Part 1, and references to her "Shame" video like shocking herself for having lesbian thoughts, etc.
Also some of the ideas in Cringe!
I was a very envious child, I still remember how I used to hate Peter Pan when I was twelve for him getting to be immortal and me having to die one day. I dislike that man to this day.
After I grew up a bit I wondered why I was like that, and this video made me think that "It's not fair!" was a basis for my ideas on social justice and human interactions in general. Thank you very much for that! And the visuals and the structure of this essay are so good!
The "Jealousy" vs "envy" that you describe are actually called "benign envy" and "malicious envy" in academic literature.
Otherwise, envy and jealously are used differently seemingly by area, and have been used differently depending on the time period.
EDIT; And as an additional note, I'd say there's a third type too. I was emotionally abused as a child and teen, And when I see other people being affectionate and happy with their families, I experience extreme pain. That doesn't mean I want them to lose their families or anything, But it does cause me a lot of pain and yet there is no potential for resolution (improvement). This gives rise to despair, especially if you fail to create a new family in friends, like i failed to.
One might name this a different term than envy, but really theres no sense in that, because the only thing that differs compared to benign envy is the potential for resolution.
@homo sexual feminine mal6 whistleblower confession what are you babbling about
Bitterness?
"once you vore, you just want more"
Look I have a tattoo appointment in 2 hours and I can't be hearing a slogan like that so close to a permanent inking session.
Nobody has a spine like Natalie. I can't imagine anyone else speaking so goddamn frankly about taboo subjects you know she's gonna be criticized to hell for. Just in case it's otherwise thankless work, THANK YOU.
she ate out of a kibble-filled cat bowl... she does not give a fuck anymore
Good. Sis doesn't let the bastards get her down.
Honestly it's crazy how much like clear envy I've started having after transitioning. Like before transitioning it was a sort of "I want that but can never have it, so for the most part the envy disappeared like she said.
But then after transitioning and realizing I actually could do all those things I wanted, and suddenly I felt quite depressed and probably envious at all the pretty egirls who are cis and pretty and the trans girls who lucked out with transitioning etc..
All while not realizing that I actually can look quite nice as well and that there are people who feel the same kind of draw towards how I look as I do to others