When firearms first came into widespread use, they were very slow to reload. This mad them vulnerable to cavalry attach on the infantry square. To protect the square, there were pike men. A pike is like a spear,but much bigger. it was not really a throwing weapon. with the introduction of the grease pack squares had fewer ranks since reloading was quicker. This also reduced the number of pike. Then someone invented the bayonet. the made the pike obsolescent and gradually they were eliminated.
I remember hearing a US Marine talk about bumping into an Iraqi insurgent in a dark basement stairwell once. He said he instinctively grabbed the barrel of the insurgents RPK machine gun so he couldn't use it and drew out his M9 bayonet. He tried to stab the insurgent in the side of his neck but it was stopped by what he thought was body armor but was able to slowly push it through. He said as he was doing it the insurgent was screaming "like a man that knew he was about to die." One of his teammates illuminated him and the insurgent with a flashlight and it turns out since the insurgent was on a lower step than the Marine in the darkness he had driven the bayonet into the side of the now dead insurgents skull.
@@RandomGary we got issued bayonets in 04 while deployed. I knew units after mine had them as well. Most didn't put them on their gear, just like we didn't attach our pro mask, but we were issued them. Might depend 9n the unit and commanders.
there is an old saying "the plan is working as well as a plan does if you have your rifle, the plan is going sideways if your sidearm is to hand, the plan is completely fucked if knife is in hand" or something like that, awesome video man keep up the good work 👍
"I may be old, I may be slow, but I still remember where to stick the knife" - a friend of my grandfather who was a commando back in the "good old days" when it comes to old boy versus young pup, my money is on the old boy. my grandad summed it up best. he said "old age and treachery outweighs youth and inexperience".
His blaze attitude and non boast about using the knife reminds me of the story from the set of Lord of the rings, apparently Peter Jackson asked Sir Christopher Lee to scream and react to being stabbed in a particular way, to which Sir Christopher the. Schooled Peter on the sounds a person being stabbed would make. Sir Chris was SAS then SOE during ww2!!
That must be British as in the US its the Spirit of the Bayonet, and never heard it called a sword until today. Its always interesting to learn more. Also, agree on the first gentleman with the F/S knife, he's definitely used it and certainly better than I'll ever be.
@@RandomGary thanks. For the most part doing well. Can't complain too much anyway, others have way harder. Thanks for checking. It's great seeing you again on here. Its kinda funny, we broke quite a couple ARs on our bayonet course, but the bayonets held together.
Why does it matter if you have to use a knife, bayonet or gun? If you are certain in taking someone's life, it shouldn't matter. If you're gun fails and you had to kill a man with a bayonet, why should it bother you?
Hello Gary, great video mate, can you tell me why they have started to call the Bayonet a Sword, it just doesn’t sound right, like Fix Swords instead of Fix Bayonets, call me old fashioned but I can never called it a Sword, I have an old Lee Metford Boer War Bayonet in my shed, never in my wildest dreams will I say, Oh, I need my Sword for that, all the best, Lee.
Hey Lee, good to see you back again mate. I found this on their regimental webpage. "Rifles Heritage Fact: Swords, not Bayonets In The Rifles, the weapons usually referred to as bayonets in the rest of British Army, and other armies around the world, are called swords. But why is this the case? In 1800, Britain equipped its elite rifle units with the Baker rifle. Although accurate and reliable, the Army was concerned about the length of the weapon. The Baker rifle measured at 45.4 inches (116 cm) long, significantly shorter than the 55.25 inches (140.3 cm) of an India Pattern, “Brown Bess”, musket. A Rifleman equipped with rifle and socket bayonet, in the style of that used on the Brown Bess, would have considerably less reach than that of a line infantryman. This would make them especially vulnerable to cavalry. To overcome this literal shortcoming, it was decided to equip Baker rifles with sword bayonets. At 24 inches (61 cm), these blades were essentially short swords, fitted with handguards and grips. Not only did the swords compensate for the reduced length of the rifle, they could also be used as close quarters weapons. In rifles units, such as the 95th Rifles, the order became to “fix swords”, not to “fix bayonets”. The split between rifles equipped with swords, and muskets with socket bayonets, persisted until the introduction of the Army’s first universal rifle, the Pattern 1853 Enfield. As the new rifle was as long as the Brown Bess, the sword was no longer necessary and so all soldiers were equipped with socket bayonets. There were some exceptions, notably NCOs, particularly serjeants, who often continued to carry sword bayonets. They also remained popular with Riflemen in the Rifle Volunteer Corps - the forerunner of the Army Reserve/Territorial Army. However, despite no longer being generally employed, the name of swords stuck with those units that had used them. Throughout the 19th century there had been a debate over bayonet reach. The longer the rifle and the bayonet, the better chance a solider had of keeping cavalry, or charging infantry, at bay. These concepts had generally proven valid in colonial wars. In 1903, the Army adopted the Pattern 1903 bayonet, which was knife bayonet - similar in appearance to a sword, but considerably shorter. But, due to fears of being at a disadvantage when facing an enemy with superior reach, a new sword bayonet was designed just a few years later: the Pattern 1907. However, in the close confines of trench warfare experienced in the First World War, long rifles and bayonets proved awkward. Shorter rifles and bayonets were favoured, or sometimes abandoned entirely, for weapons such as knives and homemade clubs. After the War, the British Army decided to adopt a much shorter design, reverting back to a socket bayonet. The No. 4 Spike Bayonet, nicknamed the ‘pig sticker’ by the soldiers that used them, was a simple cylindrical spike. Although effective in close quarters, it was not overly popular, due to its lack of utility. Since the end of the Second World War, the British Army has used a variety of knife bayonets. The latest, introduced alongside the SA80 family of weapons in 1985, is the L3A1. As was the case with its Napoleonic ancestor, it is designed to also be a weapon in its own right, coming equipped with a grip to allow it to be used as fighting knife. Additionally, it offers excellent utility, with a saw blade, wire cutters and sharpening stone built into the scabbard. When The Rifles formed in 2007, the tradition of referring to bayonets as swords was continued. As the L3A1 has far more in common with the Baker rifle sword than the Brown Bess socket bayonet, this seems only right!"
Hello Gary, thank you for the reply , very interesting information on the history of the Sword - Bayonet, you seem like a good man to be friends with, stay safe, Lee.
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When firearms first came into widespread use, they were very slow to reload. This mad them vulnerable to cavalry attach on the infantry square. To protect the square, there were pike men. A pike is like a spear,but much bigger. it was not really a throwing weapon. with the introduction of the grease pack squares had fewer ranks since reloading was quicker. This also reduced the number of pike. Then someone invented the bayonet. the made the pike obsolescent and gradually they were eliminated.
The bayonets have fullers, these are added to lighten the weight of the blade, shorter the blade the less effective.
I remember hearing a US Marine talk about bumping into an Iraqi insurgent in a dark basement stairwell once. He said he instinctively grabbed the barrel of the insurgents RPK machine gun so he couldn't use it and drew out his M9 bayonet. He tried to stab the insurgent in the side of his neck but it was stopped by what he thought was body armor but was able to slowly push it through. He said as he was doing it the insurgent was screaming "like a man that knew he was about to die." One of his teammates illuminated him and the insurgent with a flashlight and it turns out since the insurgent was on a lower step than the Marine in the darkness he had driven the bayonet into the side of the now dead insurgents skull.
we don't get issued bayonets anymore. I have always brought my own to deployments
Didn't know that mate. We had the unbelievable task of justifying blades to our Military Police who would attempt to confiscate them. Ridiculous
@@RandomGary Military Police were only a problem at a main base. outside the wire no one said anything.
@@RandomGary we got issued bayonets in 04 while deployed. I knew units after mine had them as well. Most didn't put them on their gear, just like we didn't attach our pro mask, but we were issued them. Might depend 9n the unit and commanders.
its interesting to see the difference between the nice flat field and an actual river as terrain
Unaware if that was the basic application with a lane later in the day.
there is an old saying "the plan is working as well as a plan does if you have your rifle, the plan is going sideways if your sidearm is to hand, the plan is completely fucked if knife is in hand" or something like that, awesome video man keep up the good work 👍
Ha ha, I like it mate
I’ve been in 2 knife fights, I was unarmed and I’m still here but my instructor said what you said - dumb for me to not run away
Another great video
Thank you mate
"I may be old, I may be slow, but I still remember where to stick the knife" - a friend of my grandfather who was a commando back in the "good old days"
when it comes to old boy versus young pup, my money is on the old boy. my grandad summed it up best. he said "old age and treachery outweighs youth and inexperience".
His blaze attitude and non boast about using the knife reminds me of the story from the set of Lord of the rings, apparently Peter Jackson asked Sir Christopher Lee to scream and react to being stabbed in a particular way, to which Sir Christopher the. Schooled Peter on the sounds a person being stabbed would make. Sir Chris was SAS then SOE during ww2!!
Different breed mate
That older gentleman has probably set more souls free than Jesus.
I think you are right lol
That must be British as in the US its the Spirit of the Bayonet, and never heard it called a sword until today. Its always interesting to learn more.
Also, agree on the first gentleman with the F/S knife, he's definitely used it and certainly better than I'll ever be.
Hope your keeping well mate
@@RandomGary thanks. For the most part doing well. Can't complain too much anyway, others have way harder. Thanks for checking. It's great seeing you again on here.
Its kinda funny, we broke quite a couple ARs on our bayonet course, but the bayonets held together.
Afternoon G.
Hows your working going mate?
Sound G. How the family
Why does it matter if you have to use a knife, bayonet or gun? If you are certain in taking someone's life, it shouldn't matter. If you're gun fails and you had to kill a man with a bayonet, why should it bother you?
Hello Gary, great video mate, can you tell me why they have started to call the Bayonet a Sword, it just doesn’t sound right, like Fix Swords instead of Fix Bayonets, call me old fashioned but I can never called it a Sword, I have an old Lee Metford Boer War Bayonet in my shed, never in my wildest dreams will I say, Oh, I need my Sword for that, all the best, Lee.
Hey Lee, good to see you back again mate. I found this on their regimental webpage.
"Rifles Heritage Fact: Swords, not Bayonets
In The Rifles, the weapons usually referred to as bayonets in the rest of British Army, and other armies around the world, are called swords. But why is this the case?
In 1800, Britain equipped its elite rifle units with the Baker rifle. Although accurate and reliable, the Army was concerned about the length of the weapon. The Baker rifle measured at 45.4 inches (116 cm) long, significantly shorter than the 55.25 inches (140.3 cm) of an India Pattern, “Brown Bess”, musket. A Rifleman equipped with rifle and socket bayonet, in the style of that used on the Brown Bess, would have considerably less reach than that of a line infantryman. This would make them especially vulnerable to cavalry. To overcome this literal shortcoming, it was decided to equip Baker rifles with sword bayonets. At 24 inches (61 cm), these blades were essentially short swords, fitted with handguards and grips. Not only did the swords compensate for the reduced length of the rifle, they could also be used as close quarters weapons. In rifles units, such as the 95th Rifles, the order became to “fix swords”, not to “fix bayonets”.
The split between rifles equipped with swords, and muskets with socket bayonets, persisted until the introduction of the Army’s first universal rifle, the Pattern 1853 Enfield. As the new rifle was as long as the Brown Bess, the sword was no longer necessary and so all soldiers were equipped with socket bayonets. There were some exceptions, notably NCOs, particularly serjeants, who often continued to carry sword bayonets. They also remained popular with Riflemen in the Rifle Volunteer Corps - the forerunner of the Army Reserve/Territorial Army. However, despite no longer being generally employed, the name of swords stuck with those units that had used them.
Throughout the 19th century there had been a debate over bayonet reach. The longer the rifle and the bayonet, the better chance a solider had of keeping cavalry, or charging infantry, at bay. These concepts had generally proven valid in colonial wars. In 1903, the Army adopted the Pattern 1903 bayonet, which was knife bayonet - similar in appearance to a sword, but considerably shorter. But, due to fears of being at a disadvantage when facing an enemy with superior reach, a new sword bayonet was designed just a few years later: the Pattern 1907.
However, in the close confines of trench warfare experienced in the First World War, long rifles and bayonets proved awkward. Shorter rifles and bayonets were favoured, or sometimes abandoned entirely, for weapons such as knives and homemade clubs. After the War, the British Army decided to adopt a much shorter design, reverting back to a socket bayonet. The No. 4 Spike Bayonet, nicknamed the ‘pig sticker’ by the soldiers that used them, was a simple cylindrical spike. Although effective in close quarters, it was not overly popular, due to its lack of utility.
Since the end of the Second World War, the British Army has used a variety of knife bayonets. The latest, introduced alongside the SA80 family of weapons in 1985, is the L3A1. As was the case with its Napoleonic ancestor, it is designed to also be a weapon in its own right, coming equipped with a grip to allow it to be used as fighting knife. Additionally, it offers excellent utility, with a saw blade, wire cutters and sharpening stone built into the scabbard.
When The Rifles formed in 2007, the tradition of referring to bayonets as swords was continued. As the L3A1 has far more in common with the Baker rifle sword than the Brown Bess socket bayonet, this seems only right!"
Hello Gary, thank you for the reply , very interesting information on the history of the Sword - Bayonet, you seem like a good man to be friends with, stay safe, Lee.
Love the chanel thanks for the content. Id love to see your thoughts and reaction to. "MSNBC Slain Diplomat Remembered Fondly as Gamer Vile Rat" and "EVE Online Vile Rat Cyno Vigil" EVE online players have a massive amount of respect for their deceased so when Sean Smith (Vile Rat) was killed in Bengazi everyone across the game was heart broken. To many he was a US diplomat, to us he was a space diplomat and really cool dude.