I agree. I am a 4th generation Hillbilly born here in 1969. My Grandfather owned the 2k plus acres that Bass Pros Dogwood Nature park is on now. It had crystal clear water that was safe to drink until Bass Pro took it over, now the water is full of moss. Table Rock had safer drinking water than most cities at one time. People from other states buy high dollar summer homes here, they also buy 4 to 5 condos to rent out to tourists and they most usually pay with cash (no loan) for a investment on their return. They don't live here full time and don't care what it does to this beautiful country because once they destroy this, they just move on the the next spot. We welcome people to move here, but please don't destroy the land and leave your politics in the big city you came from.
Can't disagree with you but we saw massive changes in water Clarity back when the Chicken Farms began exploding in NW Arkansas and Arkansas Government allowed the spreading of Chicken Manure from those huge chicken-rearing operations on the roadsides to get rid of it. You used to be able to look down along the bluffs and see the old Cedar Trees on the bluff ledges 25-30 feet deep and after the Chicken manure started washing in from the Kings and feeder creeks from South of the State Line, those Cedar trees suddenly looked like Christmas Trees draped in green Algae. This was in the early 80's. Since, then, it has only gotten worse and the operation of these boats that artificially create deliberate, huge wakes has multiplied the problem with accelerated shoreline erosion. .
In '73 I did my PADI open water scuba dive there. It was unbelievably clear and one area we dove still had trees somewhat standing still with all kinds of lures shimmering on them. It looked like Christmas trees!
@@terrypierce8815 Me Too Terry… 1954 my Friend but Webster County till I retired in 2013 and sold the farm to buy this lake house. Just 2 of Our 5 Children Still Farm… My Son in Elkland and my Youngest Daughter and Family up here. All of course still work Their Businesses and have jobs as well. I farmed all my life and we still have a big part in it, But I Was a General Contractor and was gone out of the country many times too. My Good Wife is a Natural Mother and Farmer… She Surely has been my Salvation
It's heartbreaking no one can have a cabin or stay at a resort on the lake which are very few. You have to have a million dollar estate. I remember the lake from the 1960's and it was a beautiful site for the eyes we will never see anything like it again. Thanks Randy
@@Sooner32 Highlight for them hillbillies going to Oklahoma? They still don't need shoes there. They wear Moccasins. Alright, sorry, Missouri humor. It is a shame when civilization finds a place and ruins it. Did wonders for Vegas, nasty piece of desert you really couldn't hurt, well, unless desert was your thing. Which I'm sure it was. You'd have to get a place on the National parks and have the limit construction, but that didn't work so well for those people in Lāhainā did it. Money always finds a way. Our ancestors showed us the way. Move away to some quite spot AND THIS TIME, don't tell anyone about it. I've got three acres in a subdivision with farms all around but, houses moving closer and closer. Should have bought 20 acres further out and put a doublewide on it. That would only last another 20 years though. Branson, I still remember taking Duck tours and have them pointing out some of those mansions and who they belonged to. It was quaint when My kids were captains on the boat, youngest turns 40 pretty quick though. Progress. 🤮
I moved to Branson on 2017 from northern Minnesota and was shocked with the development on table rock. I've been accustomed to fishing pristine lakes with very little pressure on them for most of my life. I have become so disheartened and disinfranchised with table rock that I almost exclusively fish Bull shoals lake. Bull shoals is one of the only undeveloped places in the southern part of the US. The fishing is much better there than on table rock as well. It's mind blowing why anyone coming to the Ozarks to fish would even consider table rock when Bull shoals is so close.
I hear what you are saying. After retiring from my job in Minneapolis, we moved to SW Ohio to be close to relatives. What a joke when it comes to fishing. Ohio has no natural lakes, just reservoirs constructed as flood control measures. What they call lakes has so much development along the shore, access is LIMITED to say the least. We were spoiled fishing Minnesota lakes, so much CLEAN water, seldom was another fishing boater an issue. The world is changing and not for the better. I'm glad to have lived when I did and to enjoy the hunting and fishing available to me. I wonder if Minnesota is today what it was when I moved away. One thing for certain, Minneapolis isn't! And that's my fishing doom and gloom experience.
I’m 64 year’s old and have been going down to Bull Shoals lake every year, since I was born! My Uncle Lloyd went to work at General Motors in St.Louis 1949 and retired 1974. My Aunt Alice and Uncle Lloyd along with about 8 other couples, all best friends and General Motors retiree’s moved down to Bull Shoals Lake in the mid to late 70’s! Myself and my 6 siblings spent every summer staying in resort cabins along Bull Shoals Lake until my Aunt and Uncle retired and moved there full time. My Uncle knew the lake like the back of his hand! I have countless pictures of him and his fishing buddies holding up fishing stringers with well over 20 large mouth bass, and other fish! I think humans have over developed and destroyed natural habitat we can’t get back! I’m very anti big government, but someone who can’t be bought off needs to stand up to these developers! Career politicians are part of the problem!
@@kennyw6932 I went to high school in northern Minnesota in the late '60's. I graduated from the U of M in '81(after a stint in the Navy). I was a disciple of the incredible fishing and hunting opportunities in Minnesota, and I was proud to say I was from Minnesota. Today? Forget it! All the "wokeness" has ruined that state. I have family there. My parents are buried there. I don't even want to visit, especially Minneapolis, a city that I loved. It's truly sad.
@@believer8480Bull Shoals is my favorite lake in MO and Arkansas. Being so isolated has help keep it in pristine condition. Especially in comparison to Table Rock Lake and Lake of the Ozarks.
Please stop mentioning this lake. It will soon be in the same condition as table rock ! It is time that the locals start a movement to proclame a nation wilderness area.
I also agree. I am a local, lived here all my life. In the old days, 1970's and 1980's for me the Lake of the Ozarks was the over developed rat race lake. That water was never clear. Back then, there were a few houses here and there, but was mostly trees along the shoreline. Water clarity was still good, My In-laws had a house & boat dock (built in the 1960's) and we actually snorkeled a lot of our time there. Now it's looking like the Lake of the Ozarks. Another theme park is the last thing needed in the area, traffic is horrible in the summer, and we certainly do not need a 1,600 acre park on the lake shore. I hope there is a way to stop the new theme park.
They call it progress. It happens everywhere. There’s no stopping it as far as the fishing goes. I think bass tournaments have had a negative affect on the fishing. We live on Lake of Ozarks and it’s nowhere as clear as it was in the 70s.
Is there any way people could ban together to stop this silver dollar city rape the land project? I went to school at reeds sping in the 70s I get exactly what you're saying and I doubt that Mary and Hugo Hershand would approve of this 1600 acre development either how can it be stopped?
They are moving the Lake Rescue Shootout (boat races) to the Grand Glaize arm on Lake of the Ozarks! This is coming to the Glaize right next to the State park. The Glaize arm is still mostly untouched and is one of the few areas here where you can fish in peace and get away from people. I am furious about this! All of the big boats, waves, and noise are coming to a now pristine area of the lake. To top it off, they are building a big amusement park at the Glaize bridge...more big boats and congestion! We have the same problem here big time.
A lot of Table Rocks pollution problem is from the sewage treatment plant in Springfield. And a lot of litter and trash from Springfield by way of the James River arm of the lake. I've seen the backs of coves up the James with two feet of trash lying in them. Then you have the land fill west of Reeds Spring with the natural drainage flow right into the valley of the lake. These are the main player's in the pollution problem. And it won't stop either. Sad
My family moved down to the end of Indian Point in 1984. The lake was so clear that you could see the bottom, in 30ft of water, no problem at all. Now you can’t see your feet just wading up to your knees. It’s so heartbreaking..
I agree 100 percent! Everything boils down to the almighty dollar, not is what's best for our country. I am 65 and remember when you could go to a lake and just enjoy what nature and the lake had to offer, quiet breeze, wildlife sounds and time to reflect. Now, it's crowded boat ramps, everyone for themselves and housing developments for people that want that weekend getaway away from the city rat race. When America finally wakes up, it will be too late. I guess I'm just getting older, but I remember when things on the lakes were much better.
I am sorry for your loss. I totally understand. It kills me to see the Potomac River change from year to year. My dad used to pick me up from school and take me down to the river in the 60s. This was before they built Blue Plains Treatment Center to clean up Washington waste. In the 70s you could go out and never see another angler. In the 80s hydrilla took up and cleaned the river up further. Bass fishing exploded! Then tourneys took over, Roland, Jimmy, & Hank had their fishing shows on the river. It was no longer a secret. Then they built a hotel and casino on the river's best spawning cove. There are no closed seasons on Bass on the lower Potomac and every club from PA, NY, and NJ.VA &.MD would have their club tourneys on the river because of that! I have watched Lake Anna do the same thing. I want to throw up when I think about it.. Its the price we pay in the name of development. Enjoy what you have today as it is precious. Add in the new electronics and it is down right pathetic! I suppose all of us Anglers in our 50s and 60s have similar memories. We didnt know how good we had it!
I agree. Im 41...born in 83. U cant just pull over and fish the potomac anymore especially close to DC ...every shoreline of the potomac seems to be private property.
I vacationed in Branson a lot when I was younger but I quit going 20 years ago. It just went too commercial and lost all its small town charm. Now it’s just going to be Las Vegas in the mountains 😢
When I was young in the 70's I was fortunate enough to get to go on vacations to the Ozarks. My parents would take my friends and me to Dogpatch and Silver Dollar City, and Eureka Springs all in one trip. Back then Eureka was a ghost town except for a Dairy Queen and the Passion Play. We would drive for hours in nothing but beautiful forests. Those were some of the best times of my life. The forests are mostly gone now and everything has been turned into houses and commercial garbage.
My wife's mother used to take her four children, spouses, and grandkids to Branson and Silver Dollar City every year until her passing in 2009. My wife and I would go back at least once a year, sometimes as many as four times to keep the memories alive. When Silver Dollar City raised their price for a day pass to $68 per person I made the statement that when it goes over $70 that it would be the end of our trips to Branson. The last time I looked they were charging $85 per person for a day pass. We live far enough away that by the time we pay for a hotel room and meals and the fuel a season pass doesn't save us any money. We've been to Branson maybe twice since COVID started but we definitely won't be going back to Steal Your Dollar City. Furthermore, I don't understand why they would spend the money for another theme park after having to close the old Celebration City due to its lack of profitability. The place just sits there empty taking up space. Seems like most CEO's these days are educated beyond their intelligence.
My family used to go vacation down there in the late 70's and early 80's. The lake was pristine. I went back as an adult in the late 90's and could not believe how much development had happened. It's unfortunate people can't purchase land and build 5 to 10 miles away and leave the lake front alone.
I agree! Just look at the hillside just south of Kimberling City.The whole hillside developed with rentals stripped of all trees and they call it Natures something or other.What a freakin joke!
I live just south of BALD TOP ESTATES!! We were looking at the 45 acres before it was bought! We only wanted 4 acres to build but would have needed utilities!! YES THE LAKE IS NOT AS CLEAR AS IT WAS 7 YRS AGO!!
Four of us in our senior year in high school took a trip there fifty years ago. Was a magical place with great fishing. Sorry to find out it went to hell in fifty years.
They did this Lake of the Ozarks starting about 1990. Until then I could walk out at 4am on a sat morning and the lake would be absolutely still(i could see main channel from our place on the Gravois arm). Great video!
My grandparents had a place on the lake in there in the 70s in Gravois, you may have been close to where they lived. It was a calm area and we could see the main channel as well, we go camping at Pomme De Terre every year now by the dam🙂
Brother, I’m just north of you up on Pomme De Terre… Love Your Program Here my Friend! I was pretty sickened this morning reading a story of all the dolphins and I’m sure all the other critters in our golf that are being found to have all kinds of pharmaceuticals in their systems, including fentanyl. It’s just sickening and you’re right humans destroy everything they touch.
I grew up on Pomme , my grandparents had lake lots since the construction of the lake . Went there a few years ago to visit their gravesite , saw the great and grand new speedway outside of Hermitage , that was the death knell for me among other things . Sad
@ I Agree my Friend… Right next to me here has been the Sunflower Resort since the Early 60’s… Just a couple months ago some very Well to Do Young Family Bought The Place and They’re in the process of demolishing the whole place now to Build Something Like a 10,000’ Mansion in its place. Many of my Friends are Working on the Project and there’s a lot of them just staying in the old original units and house While Working There. It’s Really More Sad since a couple from Colorado bought it 2 years ago and Had Completely Renovated the Entire Place. Now They’re actually working on the big project Too While Commuting between here and Colorado. Bless You Sir and Enjoy Your Weekend my Friend and I Like Yourself, Do Not Like All This They Call “Progress”
Moonshine beach and Indian point are a prime example of overdevelopment I remember in the early eighties just a few mom and pop cabins now it’s like downtown Chicago 😩😩
So very sorry to hear about this. We used to go to Table Rock Lake and water ski. We drove down from Kansas City. I loved Table Rock Lake on hot days you could get into cold water on the lake. The water was so clear. The Kansas lakes by home were always dirty and rough water. Table Rock Lake would have smooth water even on windy days. People won't know what they are missing. This is a shame.
While I don't necessarily agree with what they are doing reservoirs are created for more than just bass fisherman. There are a tremendous number of people who use reservoirs and don't even know what a fishing rod is
@@MooralFishing pretty sure i was spot on ... Randy's thesis was that among other things all this development has ruined the fishing on table Rock ... I was merely pointing out that the reservoir may not have been created solely for fisherman ... and the thousands that use it every week who don't fish couldn't care less that fishing has been ruined. ... please try to keep up, thx 👽🦖
@@astrophysicistguy fishermen pay money to conservation departments for our licenses as part of an agreement to preserve nature, it shouldnt be legal to clearcut forest and dump pesticides and herbicides and industrial runoff into the watershed using the excuse of "its my land" because lakes are a sportsmans resource we pay into
Hope for the for all folks that have had a natural way of life around this lake. I've been to Lake of the Ozarks twice and I won't ever go back this is the biggest cesspool of the midwest! Commercialized overage it's sickening good luck.
I grew up on Table Rock, just south of the Dam. While I agree that the Lake has changed a helluva lot since 1982, that particular area with Rock Lane was the ONLY part of the lake that had significant development at that time. The State Park Marina only had about 5 docks, all in the same small cove. The landscape obviously has changed tremendously since then, but with that I’m not sure that something that SDC is behind would be a bad “look” compared to a lot of other possibilities. It seems that it would be an improvement over the unfinished McMansions that have been there for the last 20+ years.
I live a couple hours south of the lake being discussed. We have hundreds of minor and large lakes within just a couple hours in any direction. But people only talk about like 3 of them for whatever reason.
@@ronniedale6040 ya thats all Randy fishes. Man needs to get out and see not evrry lake is developed as he states in this video. Im from Mi and same out there lakes upon lakes with no one one them. Driving thru wisconsin same thing. Stationef in Az same thing. Most the lakes have little to no development. When i was stationed in New mexico same thing.
Show me those lakes. Maybe you’re talking about the boundary waters, but every other lake outside of the boundary waters is slam full of houses, docks, and recreational boaters.
@@northernbassalliance1442 Any sizable lake worth fishing with a public boat launch in Minnesota and Wisconsin is going to be full of houses and docks. I’ve been to hundreds and very few are undeveloped.
Down South here we don’t have ‘10,000 lakes’. Our bigger reservoirs have become more and more crowded over the last couple decades. That is why I started fishing a lot smaller bodies of water.
I’m from the west coast, that’s what happened to almost every body of water I’ve fished since the early 90’s. The pristine environment is why I love going out east to fish , this is super sad my children probably won’t get to see pure beauty like god intended it to be seen
Feel your pain Randy. In my area of Michigan we have a land preservation group that we pay tax milage to preserve land. We don’t have a large body of water like that but have preserved 1000’s of acres of land. The only way to fight it is with money. Lots of folks want to protect their land if they get some money from it.
Yes! It’s so common here but seldom mentioned in these discussions. Look next door, this isn’t a new issue, other areas have been addressing this for years, to preserve farmland and natural areas. The landowners get paid and get real estate tax relief.
I spent my childhood at Sunrise Beach, Mo. I think that's very close to where the iriginal amusement park is. About 35 miles by water. I stopped going in 75. Parents retired near there. I loved the Ozarks. It holds almost all my memories of childhood. I've lived in Memphis, TN area for 50 years now.
Randy - I agree on all points and Im in my 60s. I remember coves so clear I could cast for bass by sight. They saw me too but oh well. Side note - when they started gravel dredging on the finley river in the 70s I saw it and wanted to puke. Its never been the same. As others have said, if you read about the unimpounded white river before TR, it was a paradise for fishing and clean water and remote wilderness. Can you imagine the Ozarks before they cut the old growth forests? Sadly this is how it is. Its tragic and sad. Im not sure we can stop it any more than we can stop a tidal wave. However - you can still find what you are seeking in solutide and natural beauty in the Ozarks. Its in the streams. Wade fish Beaver creek north of bull shoals. Canoe on the Caddo River in arkansas. Yes, the NSR are beautiful if you dont mind competing with a zillion boy scouts but if you are willing to dig a little for info, do your own portaging, or walk some railroad tracks to find access - the clear water and beauty is there to be found as long as its not impounded. Thats the root cause. Nobody wants their weekend getaway in a flood zone. Push against future impoundments, fight for more protections for non NSR streams and that will make a real difference.
Unfortunately this is the world we live in.One commenter said this is what capitalism brings, I have traveled abroad, i'ts no different in other countries other than zero regulations on developers. How many of us complain and at the same time contribute to the mess. Randy put out a video last week showing his new bass boat, I wonder how good the manufacturing process to build it was for the enviroment or the gass it will burn or the truck he will use to pull it, all just like the developers, for profit. I wonder how it impacted the environment to clear the land for Randy to build his house, cut down the trees for the lumber to build it? I guess I will be labled a "smart ass" as Randy put it because I am pointing out a bit of hypocrisy. I like Randy, I watch every video but conservation needs to start at home and it needs to be more than a rant. Go to planning meetings, run to get on boards, you probably can't stop development but you can make sure regulations are in place and enforced. This is what we did on one of our local lakes and I believe it has ensured great fishing and balanced recreation. If you want change you have to do more than complain, thats easy, I hope Randy is doing more than ranting on you tube. If he is my sincere apologies.
I miss how Table Rock was back in the 80s and 90s. It has turned into another Lake of The Ozarks. The lower lake area is basically a no-go zone for us. We stay above the highway 13 bridge and stay up in the white river arm and the James river arm.
I have fond memories of that lake. Same time frame 70’s i use to go there with my dad and uncles. I live in Chelsea Oklahoma now and they are getting ready to build a 2 billion dollar theme park in vinita. Pisses me off!
It’s cool to build on pristine wilderness areas as long as you’re the only one living there. As soon as anyone else wants to build there it becomes a problem.
Yeah Albert thats exactly correct, the original people who lived at Table Rock built cabins near the shoreline and did fishing and occasional skiing, now its all these non Missouri non Arkansas rich pos who are blowing up and clearcutting nature to build condos and resorts and mansions. They should gtfo
I was just at Silver Dollar City this past Wednesday for their "Pumpkin Festival". As one that has been going to SDC since 1965, this USED to be my favorite park to go to. Marvel Cave was the prime attraction. The "city" consisted of about six buildings back then, and the stagecoach was the only "ride". They also had a cowboy street shootout, but of course that came to an end due to the "political correctness" that was going on even "back in the day". Emphasis is put onto the "amusement" rides, instead of the arts and crafts that made this park what it WAS. Yes, WAS, because the crafts theme is disappearing quickly. I am saddened by this direction the park is headed. Some call it "progress", or "keeping with the times". But I call what it is. PROFITEERING!!! I heard a phrase the other day that makes perfect sense these days. "STEAL YOUR DOLLAR CITY". After going to this park for over 59 years, I have to say that this may have been my last visit.
Used to buy season tickets for the whole family every year. Stopped 10 yrs ago as the park began to change for the worse. You are right. It is now "STEAL YOUR DOLLAR CITY".
Do you not understand that local officials would not permit them and developers would not build them absent a robust market for such properties? I get tired of everyone blaming local officials and developers, rather than their peers in the general public who create the demand. How many here disgusted by the Table Rock Lake situation live in homes that were once natural habitat, ripped out and replaced by St.Augustine, centipede, zoysia, or some other grass, which then needs fertilizers, insecticides, fungicide, etc. pointing fingers is great, but try to point them in all the right directions.
I used to live in Reeds Sping, and from east of Springfield. Went to table rock a lot as a kid and silver dollar city. I can only imagine how messed up it is.
I like nature , I like natural parks, we spend the majority of our vacations in them. I think you might be being a bit hypocritical. I’m sure there are a lot of people out there that are “disgusted”, not myself, about all the boat ramps and bass boat traffic and the noise they make and the fact that they are taking away from the “natural beauty” and serenity of the lake and would like to put an end to all boating period. That would be a one sided, closed minded and self centered view. Your view, with all due respect, seems no different in its opinionated form. And while you don’t want to hear people complaining about “high taxes” and the “price of eggs” there are people out there feeling the pain and having to scape to get by. I’m assuming you don’t know anyone on a fixed income while inflation is up over 22% in the last 3 1/2 years and having to use credit cards to make ends meet. Your evidently well fed and better off than most.
So what is Randy Blaukat doing about it besides making a video? Its not the government, its not the developers, its the demand to have a home or be on table rock. Its all private property above the lake and if someone owns it they have every right to build there. Dont point the finger at the developer or the government. Point it at the people asking and wanting it.
We went to Shell Knob every summer when I was a kid, in the 70"s. We always stayed at Hidden Cove resort. It was right next to the old B&J's Smokehouse at the end of the bridge. I guess I'd prefer to just remember the lake as it was, than to visit and see it today.
@@CrystalStrong-zr9xu It is man made it was built to tame the white River which very destructive to the people of several counties in South West Missouri.
So they destroyed the environment long ago to put the lake in… WHO do we put the lake in for, do we do that just for fishermen, or to LOOK at…. How long will the dam last before it has to be rebuilt or repaired, or will future generations want to return the river to its former state as others have …. Seems our nature as humans to always destroy… or affect change for perceived improvement… there is no guarantee that any “development” will profit, or last into the future… always a risk
I live up here in St. Louis. There’s all kinds of different places throughout the city and county that need to be bulldozed and developed. I think you’re right. If people want to go live out in the woods in wilderness, they should expect to have to live a certain way. If not go live in the city.
@@charlespuckett8429no how about you stop making excuses. It’s the developers pushing it to make money at the expense of the environment. The politicians aren’t approving unless the deve😢paying them under the table everyone knows it
@@charlespuckett8429they vote without advertising the vote. The vote happens without anyone knowing don’t play stupid. If people knew about it they would approve it
Randy, everyone agrees with you. While you went on and on about how bad it is. Perhaps you could suggest things to do that would stop this. Rally the troops with a game plan? If it's to late, how do we slow it down to a snails pace?
We live on the lake in Eagle Rock area. Still not overdeveloped down here and after September we get "our" lake back. Sometimes only see one or two boats all day, but sure seems like "they" are coming for us. Hopefully I'll be dead before it gets too bad.
My problem with him on the over development issue is he went and bought a house ( that looks like it's in the country ) on develop land in the country. Why is it okay for him but not anyone else. From the outside looking in it's very hypothetical. Why couldn't he just stay in his last house and keep that land undeveloped.
I see the same thing happening in Arkansas. The place where I used to hunt as a teen in the 70's far away from any houses are now subdivisions. I can drive down a street with nice homes on both sides and say I once shot a deer where that house is and there's no woods even close now.
look what happed with the inspiration tower at the Shepard of the hills. right in the middle of the scenic valley{that was supposed to be the source of the inspiration} they built a bypass highway. nothing is scared anymore!!!
I don’t get all the whining. The place shouldn’t exist to begin with it’s man made. Why isn’t everyone whining about the environment they destroyed to make it ? Oh I know why because having the lake benefits your hobby. Then it’s ok. Has anyone even looked at a Google Map of this place ? It’s covered with resorts and homes. I’m sure one more isn’t going to destroy it. I’m obviously on here because I’m a life long bass fisherman but I can’t stand hypocrisy when I see it. Also if you’re going to be angry with anyone it should be the original land owners who sold it. Even then you have ZERO right to criticize. You don’t stand there and say you’re an American and a patriot and then try to control someone else exercising their own personal freedoms. I really appreciate all the content and the efforts put in but I think this is nothing but hypocritical alarmism.
A litle history seems to be needed here. The Table Rock Dam and subsequent lake were authorized by Congress under the Flood Control Act of 1941. Because of WWII and the Korean War, construction did not begin until 1954. Most of the people residing in the area to be flooded did not voluntarily sell their land. Just like the Tennessee Valley Authority, who stole my Grandparents land for pennies on the dollar, to make Kentucky Lake and Lake Barclay, it was taken by the Corps of Engineers under Eminent Domain. You are right about the people outside of the Corps area that sold their land to the highest bidder, they are indeed to blame for all of this development. After all, Silver Dollar City didn't use Eminent Domain Laws to get that 1600 acres, the people that owned it sold it to them and they can do what they want with it. To have avoided all of this the Government (people) should have stolen all of the land for 50 miles around the lake and made it a National Park, just like the Smoky Mountains National Park. Go ask the descendants of the residents of Cades Cove or the Cherokee Tribes.
@@darrellgrant7615 we absolutely will control your "personal freedom", you dont get to dump used oil on your driveway, you dont get to rip the catalytic converters off your car, and you dont get to smoke indoors. Your selfish capitalist freedom comes at the expense of everyone elses freedom to enjoy the outdoors
I live in Mountain Home, Arkansas, which is between Bull Shoals and Norfork lakes. We don't have the development on our lakes, yet. Hope it never happens.
Table Rock ,how come when you were being babied,& they were destroying Bull Shoals It seemed ok for several years you could go anywhere on the banks of Bull Shoals,you could see all kinds of fish,but after flooding B.S. every spring when the fish spawned them drop the water, meantime C of Eng. Maintained à normal level at T.R ruined B S to benefit T.R ,your turn !!!!!😊
I remember fishing there 25 years ago and there were very few houses. One of the most beautiful lakes in the country. I haven't fished there for about 8 years but the development was definitely obvious. It's still awesome when you're out on the water looking at the scenery.
I was Born in Florida late 70s. moved to the ozarks at age 15. As a child I watched florida destroyed day by day. Development can change a place overnight. No doubt in my mind its coming here. The golf courses is the start.
I get tired of hearing about Table Rock all the time. I fished it once and was not impressed. Give me Truman or Mark Twain or several other lakes in MO. when it comes to natural areas, I think many people in our community of fishermen are popularizing Table Rock's profile-to it's ultimate detriment. The last thing you should ever want is your home lake popularized by, for example, being put in BassMaster's "Top 100 List".
Table Rock was absolutely beautiful in the 70’s I WAS THERE ABD LOVED IT DEVELOPERS ARE KILLING THAT LAKE AND I HOPE IT NEVER HAPPENS IN ARKANSAS AT BEAVER LAKE AT BEAVER YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM 40 FEET DOWN AND SEE THE FISH DEVELOPMENT THERE WOULD ABSOLUTELY KILL THAT NATURE.. Table Rock is Just the beginning of a trend that will kill Missouri wild… Sick of hearing about it it will happen to Truman a d Mark Twain. If the trend keeps up.. YOUR NOT A NICE PERSON COMPLAINING ABOUT TABLE ROCK PERIOD !!!!!!!!!
Thanks Randy, I ve also watched this same thing happened to Lake ozarks, Bull shoals, and tablerock, it's sad to see all for money, because that's what it's about, ask johnny Morris, if you think he's doing that for you and I it is about profit and greed, I'm afraid it's to late
This is SO WRONG! I grew up going to Table Rock at every chance for over 50 years. Look at what's been done to Lake of Ozarks commercialization 😢. Only thing that matters to government is $$$$
One can enjoy developed and wild/ undeveloped areas. Some favorite wild areas get developed and then it's time to seek out new wild areas. Sometimes you want to go enjoy the activities and fun of a developed place.
It will never stop Randy, no one will get it or understand until it's ALL GONE 😢 . It's like that here in Virginia aswell as every state, it's very sad.
Thank you, Randy. Began in 1965. Stopped in 1995. Back again this year for the first time since then. It was so sad to see. I have no need to go back. But the USA was still under 200,000,000 in 1965 and now is over 350,000,000. What happened to zero population growth? We will die in our own waste!
We went to Table Rock in the 60's. It was so pristine. I saw my first Bald Eagle there. I have seen the white jelly fish. The chicken shit fro Tyson chicken plants have ruined Ten Killer lake and the Illinois river.
I completely agree with you on this. They can't even get enough people to work at the attractions and businesses they have now. Look at how many hotels that have been turned into monthly not so low cost housing to house the workers that still get paid less than $15 per hour. SDC and the shows on the strip have been getting progressively worse over the last decade. The higher priced houses and condo's are either investors or owners who only stay part of the year and airbnb the rest of the time.
The permits aren’t restrictive enough and the developers outsize the scope and the variance is exceeded. Best example is located just over the Kimberling City bridge on the Lampe Mo side. Believe it’s themed Wilderness Mountain. The developers raped the land by over grading, removing all vegetation and not addressing drainage, runoff. SDC will actually have less impact than smaller negligent projects. Many people point to Big Cedar however the original scope of its main resort has mostly filled-in and has lowered its impact. However the addition of surrounding Morris projects are so vast we won’t see improvements in our lifetime. Developers and stakeholders will always ask for too much and it falls on the permitting to be the environment adults in the room. We are never safe from the renegade profiteering like the Lampe build because they decided that the “ Fines “ would be an offset to margins. We need to give assh*les like him jail time. Once the grade it the damage is irreversible. There are ways to build hotels with lower environmental impact. I personally built one in Big Sur, Ca. ( Post Ranch Inn ) we increased our budget to protect trees, watershed, vegetation and designed many rooms as treehouses. There are no perfect developments because of sewage, usage and utility. Just as our finest National Parks are damaged by visitors each day. Luckily the wildlife fights back and claims the slow runners. Over
I went through that internal struggle decades ago as I witnessed large family farms being sold and chopped up for "ranchettes". But there's nothing we can do about development except to preserve our small part of rural America as good stewards.
Been fishing TR Lake since the late 60's. Here's a big shocker.... virtually every lake in a tolerable 9 month a year climate with a town like Branson close will never stop developing. It is part of the way the world works. Sucks but it will never change. Plenty of less developed parts of The Rock...it is dwindling but no can ever do anything about it. Yes it sucks but.....
I felt this to my core. I live on Grand Lake, and fondly remember Grand, Table Rock, and the Neosho River in the 60s & 70s. Water so clear, you could see the rocks at the bottom in the Neosho. I seriously doubt the amusement park will happen in Vinita. So many construction company/infrastructure/financial issues so far, and my guess is Mansion Entertainment would have difficulty competing with the well established SDC expansion. It’s all so sad that money talks and our environment is sacrificed for greed.
I listen to all your podcasts. I was surprised at your initial comments about I don’t care how much your mortgage is or what you’re paying for a dozen eggs. I would say the bulk of the fisherman and hunters are middle to upper middle class who are being devastated by inflation. Better look farther than land development operations. Who is going to be able to afford to even go to these destinations if things go wrong November 5.
You’re right about the parks. But sadly today people don’t like quite time. Seclusion. People want entertainment and excitement. Sadly people want to escape their own minds!!! Yes greed and money will rule and take over. I think more lakes need to be created!! All these lakes build in the 50’s 60’s and 70’s is overrun. We do need more water!!!
I started going to Branson/Silver Dollar City/ Table Rock Lake in the 70s. I dreamed about retiring down there on a good chunk of land and just getting away from the rush. Everything you say is true. The problem is, there should have been mechanism in place in the 60s or 70s whenever 76 started really growing that kept everything including Table Rock safe. Minimizing the lake front property ownership was not enough and we are where we are and there is no going backwards. I'm sorry to say that, but it is what is, a damn shame...
I’ve spent a lot of my life fishing table rock and taneycomo and while I appreciate your passion for conservation and against the over development of our natural lands I can’t help but think about the town of Oasis which lies at the bottom of your man made lake 75 years now. I imagine those folks felt the same way. I wish we would leave the natural waterways be so that future generations can enjoy them.
I seen it coming when they made 65 four lane from Springfield to Branson. Along with 13 widening projects. The easier you make it to get there, the more people will come. That's why Bull Shoal hasn't become a touristy spot, there isn't a good way to get there. So sad what it has become.
The same thing is happening here in Australia. Economics is the blindfold. When you mention the environment, the eyes start to glaze over. Interestingly, our political environment is seeing significant support for green parties for reasons similar to your topic; the Greens now hold seats in our Senate. This support is largely coming from younger voters. Although I can easily afford one, I don't have a live scope because I truly believe they harm my fishery, too. Keep up the good work mate 👍
I was at C of O in the late 80's. At Table Rock In 15 feet of water I could see a coin clearly sitting on the bottom. Clearest lake I'd ever seen. Now? It's murky and not at all what it used to be. Very sad.
People like you and I see value in nature, solitude, wilderness, clean air and water. People that have no point of reference just see $$$. Get ready because in the next four years the EPA will be demolished as everything will be for sale. I used go to TR and Bull Shoals in the late 60's but haven't gone back since '82. You are right, it is happening everywhere because greed is pervasive.
In most cases development is not the cause of decline in fishing quality. Time reduces the fertility in most lakes with or without development. I fished Toledo Bend in the mid sixties when you could catch a 15 bass limit in one school of bass in 30 to 45 minutes, there were few marinas and no development. The boom of fish populations are time related and diminish over time due to fertility declines. The same is true with farm ponds, however, farm pond size makes liming and fertilization practical and the boom can be reproduced unlike large impoundments. Remember Long Island was once an Indian village with abundant wildlife and fishing.
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I agree. I am a 4th generation Hillbilly born here in 1969. My Grandfather owned the 2k plus acres that Bass Pros Dogwood Nature park is on now. It had crystal clear water that was safe to drink until Bass Pro took it over, now the water is full of moss. Table Rock had safer drinking water than most cities at one time. People from other states buy high dollar summer homes here, they also buy 4 to 5 condos to rent out to tourists and they most usually pay with cash (no loan) for a investment on their return. They don't live here full time and don't care what it does to this beautiful country because once they destroy this, they just move on the the next spot. We welcome people to move here, but please don't destroy the land and leave your politics in the big city you came from.
Can't disagree with you but we saw massive changes in water Clarity back when the Chicken Farms began exploding in NW Arkansas and Arkansas Government allowed the spreading of Chicken Manure from those huge chicken-rearing operations on the roadsides to get rid of it. You used to be able to look down along the bluffs and see the old Cedar Trees on the bluff ledges 25-30 feet deep and after the Chicken manure started washing in from the Kings and feeder creeks from South of the State Line, those Cedar trees suddenly looked like Christmas Trees draped in green Algae. This was in the early 80's. Since, then, it has only gotten worse and the operation of these boats that artificially create deliberate, huge wakes has multiplied the problem with accelerated shoreline erosion. .
In '73 I did my PADI open water scuba dive there. It was unbelievably clear and one area we dove still had trees somewhat standing still with all kinds of lures shimmering on them. It looked like Christmas trees!
5th Generation here, Born 1953, Taney County
@@terrypierce8815 Me Too Terry… 1954 my Friend but Webster County till I retired in 2013 and sold the farm to buy this lake house. Just 2 of Our 5 Children Still Farm… My Son in Elkland and my Youngest Daughter and Family up here. All of course still work Their Businesses and have jobs as well. I farmed all my life and we still have a big part in it, But I Was a General Contractor and was gone out of the country many times too. My Good Wife is a Natural Mother and Farmer… She Surely has been my Salvation
@@terrypierce8815 Awesome, good to meet ya.
It's heartbreaking no one can have a cabin or stay at a resort on the lake which are very few. You have to have a million dollar estate. I remember the lake from the 1960's and it was a beautiful site for the eyes we will never see anything like it again. Thanks Randy
You can go to Broken Bow Oklahoma and see a prettier lake with no development right now.
I used to fish off JD Fletcher's dock on table rock lake, My Grandmother owned 400 acres right behind JD's landing.
@@Sooner32 Shhhhh....🤫
@@Sooner32 Highlight for them hillbillies going to Oklahoma? They still don't need shoes there. They wear Moccasins. Alright, sorry, Missouri humor. It is a shame when civilization finds a place and ruins it. Did wonders for Vegas, nasty piece of desert you really couldn't hurt, well, unless desert was your thing. Which I'm sure it was. You'd have to get a place on the National parks and have the limit construction, but that didn't work so well for those people in Lāhainā did it. Money always finds a way. Our ancestors showed us the way. Move away to some quite spot AND THIS TIME, don't tell anyone about it. I've got three acres in a subdivision with farms all around but, houses moving closer and closer. Should have bought 20 acres further out and put a doublewide on it. That would only last another 20 years though. Branson, I still remember taking Duck tours and have them pointing out some of those mansions and who they belonged to. It was quaint when My kids were captains on the boat, youngest turns 40 pretty quick though.
Progress.
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I agree. My family occasionally went to Branson & the surrounding areas when I was growing up in the 60's. We loved the natural beauty & settings.
Beautiful there. Don't forget your raising Table Rock, stay pristine!☹️
I’m 100% in agreement with you,Tablrock was my favorite place to fish growing up not so much anymore
It's a sad situation and you're 100%right. Don't know what to do about this. Thanks for sharing this with us.
I moved to Branson on 2017 from northern Minnesota and was shocked with the development on table rock. I've been accustomed to fishing pristine lakes with very little pressure on them for most of my life. I have become so disheartened and disinfranchised with table rock that I almost exclusively fish Bull shoals lake. Bull shoals is one of the only undeveloped places in the southern part of the US. The fishing is much better there than on table rock as well. It's mind blowing why anyone coming to the Ozarks to fish would even consider table rock when Bull shoals is so close.
I hear what you are saying. After retiring from my job in Minneapolis, we moved to SW Ohio to be close to relatives. What a joke when it comes to fishing. Ohio has no natural lakes, just reservoirs constructed as flood control measures. What they call lakes has so much development along the shore, access is LIMITED to say the least. We were spoiled fishing Minnesota lakes, so much CLEAN water, seldom was another fishing boater an issue. The world is changing and not for the better. I'm glad to have lived when I did and to enjoy the hunting and fishing available to me. I wonder if Minnesota is today what it was when I moved away. One thing for certain, Minneapolis isn't! And that's my fishing doom and gloom experience.
I’m 64 year’s old and have been going down to Bull Shoals lake every year, since I was born! My Uncle Lloyd went to work at General Motors in St.Louis 1949 and retired 1974. My Aunt Alice and Uncle Lloyd along with about 8 other couples, all best friends and General Motors retiree’s moved down to Bull Shoals Lake in the mid to late 70’s! Myself and my 6 siblings spent every summer staying in resort cabins along Bull Shoals Lake until my Aunt and Uncle retired and moved there full time. My Uncle knew the lake like the back of his hand! I have countless pictures of him and his fishing buddies holding up fishing stringers with well over 20 large mouth bass, and other fish! I think humans have over developed and destroyed natural habitat we can’t get back! I’m very anti big government, but someone who can’t be bought off needs to stand up to these developers! Career politicians are part of the problem!
@@kennyw6932 I went to high school in northern Minnesota in the late '60's. I graduated from the U of M in '81(after a stint in the Navy). I was a disciple of the incredible fishing and hunting opportunities in Minnesota, and I was proud to say I was from Minnesota. Today? Forget it! All the "wokeness" has ruined that state. I have family there. My parents are buried there. I don't even want to visit, especially Minneapolis, a city that I loved. It's truly sad.
@@believer8480Bull Shoals is my favorite lake in MO and Arkansas. Being so isolated has help keep it in pristine condition. Especially in comparison to Table Rock Lake and Lake of the Ozarks.
Please stop mentioning this lake. It will soon be in the same condition as table rock ! It is time that the locals start a movement to proclame a nation wilderness area.
I also agree. I am a local, lived here all my life. In the old days, 1970's and 1980's for me the Lake of the Ozarks was the over developed rat race lake. That water was never clear. Back then, there were a few houses here and there, but was mostly trees along the shoreline. Water clarity was still good, My In-laws had a house & boat dock (built in the 1960's) and we actually snorkeled a lot of our time there. Now it's looking like the Lake of the Ozarks. Another theme park is the last thing needed in the area, traffic is horrible in the summer, and we certainly do not need a 1,600 acre park on the lake shore. I hope there is a way to stop the new theme park.
They call it progress. It happens everywhere. There’s no stopping it as far as the fishing goes. I think bass tournaments have had a negative affect on the fishing. We live on Lake of Ozarks and it’s nowhere as clear as it was in the 70s.
They should re-name Lake of Ozarks and call it "Lake of Chaos".
How is that.they don't keep the fish.
Beaver is the same way because of septic systems leaching coliform in to the watershed. I wouldn’t swim in beaver at all.
Is there any way people could ban together to stop this silver dollar city rape the land project? I went to school at reeds sping in the 70s I get exactly what you're saying and I doubt that Mary and Hugo Hershand would approve of this 1600 acre development either how can it be stopped?
@@KeithRowell-l7j there are too many bass tournaments .
I agree with you completely. I don’t care whose fault it is. It’s wrong. Makes me sick.
I'm so glad to hear the passion back in your voice!!!
They are moving the Lake Rescue Shootout (boat races) to the Grand Glaize arm on Lake of the Ozarks! This is coming to the Glaize right next to the State park. The Glaize arm is still mostly untouched and is one of the few areas here where you can fish in peace and get away from people. I am furious about this! All of the big boats, waves, and noise are coming to a now pristine area of the lake. To top it off, they are building a big amusement park at the Glaize bridge...more big boats and congestion! We have the same problem here big time.
A lot of Table Rocks pollution problem is from the sewage treatment plant in Springfield. And a lot of litter and trash from Springfield by way of the James River arm of the lake. I've seen the backs of coves up the James with two feet of trash lying in them. Then you have the land fill west of Reeds Spring with the natural drainage flow right into the valley of the lake. These are the main player's in the pollution problem. And it won't stop either. Sad
My family moved down to the end of Indian Point in 1984. The lake was so clear that you could see the bottom, in 30ft of water, no problem at all. Now you can’t see your feet just wading up to your knees. It’s so heartbreaking..
I couldnt agree more here. Its sad. Unfortunately, its spreading like a cancer everywhere
Agree that it's all driven by GREED, nothing like this is done for the betterment of anything or anybody.
I agree 100 percent! Everything boils down to the almighty dollar, not is what's best for our country. I am 65 and remember when you could go to a lake and just enjoy what nature and the lake had to offer, quiet breeze, wildlife sounds and time to reflect. Now, it's crowded boat ramps, everyone for themselves and housing developments for people that want that weekend getaway away from the city rat race. When America finally wakes up, it will be too late. I guess I'm just getting older, but I remember when things on the lakes were much better.
I agree with you Randy. I've been here since 2005 and just seeing what has happened to the Long Creek arm area sucks.
I am sorry for your loss. I totally understand. It kills me to see the Potomac River change from year to year. My dad used to pick me up from school and take me down to the river in the 60s. This was before they built Blue Plains Treatment Center to clean up Washington waste. In the 70s you could go out and never see another angler. In the 80s hydrilla took up and cleaned the river up further. Bass fishing exploded! Then tourneys took over, Roland, Jimmy, & Hank had their fishing shows on the river. It was no longer a secret. Then they built a hotel and casino on the river's best spawning cove. There are no closed seasons on Bass on the lower Potomac and every club from PA, NY, and NJ.VA &.MD would have their club tourneys on the river because of that! I have watched Lake Anna do the same thing. I want to throw up when I think about it.. Its the price we pay in the name of development. Enjoy what you have today as it is precious. Add in the new electronics and it is down right pathetic! I suppose all of us Anglers in our 50s and 60s have similar memories. We didnt know how good we had it!
I agree. Im 41...born in 83. U cant just pull over and fish the potomac anymore especially close to DC ...every shoreline of the potomac seems to be private property.
I started spending my summers on Table Rock in the early 60's. I spent many nights fishing Table Rock in the summer, I miss the night sky.😢
I vacationed in Branson a lot when I was younger but I quit going 20 years ago. It just went too commercial and lost all its small town charm. Now it’s just going to be Las Vegas in the mountains 😢
When I was young in the 70's I was fortunate enough to get to go on vacations to the Ozarks. My parents would take my friends and me to Dogpatch and Silver Dollar City, and Eureka Springs all in one trip. Back then Eureka was a ghost town except for a Dairy Queen and the Passion Play. We would drive for hours in nothing but beautiful forests. Those were some of the best times of my life. The forests are mostly gone now and everything has been turned into houses and commercial garbage.
Northwest Arkansas is turning into Dallas Texas. It's just one big massive urban sprawl.
My wife's mother used to take her four children, spouses, and grandkids to Branson and Silver Dollar City every year until her passing in 2009. My wife and I would go back at least once a year, sometimes as many as four times to keep the memories alive. When Silver Dollar City raised their price for a day pass to $68 per person I made the statement that when it goes over $70 that it would be the end of our trips to Branson. The last time I looked they were charging $85 per person for a day pass. We live far enough away that by the time we pay for a hotel room and meals and the fuel a season pass doesn't save us any money. We've been to Branson maybe twice since COVID started but we definitely won't be going back to Steal Your Dollar City. Furthermore, I don't understand why they would spend the money for another theme park after having to close the old Celebration City due to its lack of profitability. The place just sits there empty taking up space. Seems like most CEO's these days are educated beyond their intelligence.
My family used to go vacation down there in the late 70's and early 80's. The lake was pristine. I went back as an adult in the late 90's and could not believe how much development had happened. It's unfortunate people can't purchase land and build 5 to 10 miles away and leave the lake front alone.
I agree! Just look at the hillside just south of Kimberling City.The whole hillside developed with rentals stripped of all trees and they call it Natures something or other.What a freakin joke!
Wilderness Mountain minus the wilderness!
I live just south of BALD TOP ESTATES!! We were looking at the 45 acres before it was bought! We only wanted 4 acres to build but would have needed utilities!! YES THE LAKE IS NOT AS CLEAR AS IT WAS 7 YRS AGO!!
That was a nice tall tree covered peak 3 years ago. Disgusting!
@@KeithT-i7q wilderness mountain minus the wilderness
Thus the old real estate adage: They always name the sub-division for what used to be there. Quail Run, Pheasant Glen, Pine knoll, etc.
Very salient observation and opinion. Thank you for posting. I'm in complete agreement.
Four of us in our senior year in high school took a trip there fifty years ago. Was a magical place with great fishing. Sorry to find out it went to hell in fifty years.
They did this Lake of the Ozarks starting about 1990. Until then I could walk out at 4am on a sat morning and the lake would be absolutely still(i could see main channel from our place on the Gravois arm). Great video!
My grandparents had a place on the lake in there in the 70s in Gravois, you may have been close to where they lived. It was a calm area and we could see the main channel as well, we go camping at Pomme De Terre every year now by the dam🙂
Brother, I’m just north of you up on Pomme De Terre… Love Your Program Here my Friend! I was pretty sickened this morning reading a story of all the dolphins and I’m sure all the other critters in our golf that are being found to have all kinds of pharmaceuticals in their systems, including fentanyl. It’s just sickening and you’re right humans destroy everything they touch.
I grew up on Pomme , my grandparents had lake lots since the construction of the lake . Went there a few years ago to visit their gravesite , saw the great and grand new speedway outside of Hermitage , that was the death knell for me among other things . Sad
@ I Agree my Friend… Right next to me here has been the Sunflower Resort since the Early 60’s… Just a couple months ago some very Well to Do Young Family Bought The Place and They’re in the process of demolishing the whole place now to Build Something Like a 10,000’ Mansion in its place. Many of my Friends are Working on the Project and there’s a lot of them just staying in the old original units and house While Working There. It’s Really More Sad since a couple from Colorado bought it 2 years ago and Had Completely Renovated the Entire Place. Now They’re actually working on the big project Too While Commuting between here and Colorado. Bless You Sir and Enjoy Your Weekend my Friend and I Like Yourself, Do Not Like All This They Call “Progress”
My grandpa’s dock is still in Haverstick Cove . At least it was when I went down there a couple of years ago .
@@spiritfan1969 I’m on Leawood Cove just West of the Dam
Moonshine beach and Indian point are a prime example of overdevelopment I remember in the early eighties just a few mom and pop cabins now it’s like downtown Chicago 😩😩
So very sorry to hear about this. We used to go to Table Rock Lake and water ski. We drove down from Kansas City. I loved Table Rock Lake on hot days you could get into cold water on the lake. The water was so clear. The Kansas lakes by home were always dirty and rough water. Table Rock Lake would have smooth water even on windy days. People won't know what they are missing. This is a shame.
While I don't necessarily agree with what they are doing reservoirs are created for more than just bass fisherman. There are a tremendous number of people who use reservoirs and don't even know what a fishing rod is
^^^^Now that's how you say you missed the point without actually saying it.
@@MooralFishing pretty sure i was spot on ... Randy's thesis was that among other things all this development has ruined the fishing on table Rock ... I was merely pointing out that the reservoir may not have been created solely for fisherman ... and the thousands that use it every week who don't fish couldn't care less that fishing has been ruined. ... please try to keep up, thx 👽🦖
Yeah maybe that should change
@@boomerkingsley8780 well when you are a hammer everything looks like a nail ...
@@astrophysicistguy fishermen pay money to conservation departments for our licenses as part of an agreement to preserve nature, it shouldnt be legal to clearcut forest and dump pesticides and herbicides and industrial runoff into the watershed using the excuse of "its my land" because lakes are a sportsmans resource we pay into
I remember years ago they said they wouldn’t let Table Rock turn into a LOZ building right on the lake.
Hope for the for all folks that have had a natural way of life around this lake. I've been to Lake of the Ozarks twice and I won't ever go back this is the biggest cesspool of the midwest! Commercialized overage it's sickening good luck.
I grew up on Table Rock, just south of the Dam. While I agree that the Lake has changed a helluva lot since 1982, that particular area with Rock Lane was the ONLY part of the lake that had significant development at that time. The State Park Marina only had about 5 docks, all in the same small cove. The landscape obviously has changed tremendously since then, but with that I’m not sure that something that SDC is behind would be a bad “look” compared to a lot of other possibilities. It seems that it would be an improvement over the unfinished McMansions that have been there for the last 20+ years.
Glad i fish in MN and not the same 3 lakes in the south and am able to see hundreds of lakes with 0 development, 0 homes etc. Its nice.
I live a couple hours south of the lake being discussed. We have hundreds of minor and large lakes within just a couple hours in any direction. But people only talk about like 3 of them for whatever reason.
@@ronniedale6040 ya thats all Randy fishes. Man needs to get out and see not evrry lake is developed as he states in this video. Im from Mi and same out there lakes upon lakes with no one one them. Driving thru wisconsin same thing. Stationef in Az same thing. Most the lakes have little to no development. When i was stationed in New mexico same thing.
Show me those lakes. Maybe you’re talking about the boundary waters, but every other lake outside of the boundary waters is slam full of houses, docks, and recreational boaters.
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Any sizable lake worth fishing with a public boat launch in Minnesota and Wisconsin is going to be full of houses and docks. I’ve been to hundreds and very few are undeveloped.
Down South here we don’t have ‘10,000 lakes’. Our bigger reservoirs have become more and more crowded over the last couple decades. That is why I started fishing a lot smaller bodies of water.
I’m from the west coast, that’s what happened to almost every body of water I’ve fished since the early 90’s. The pristine environment is why I love going out east to fish , this is super sad my children probably won’t get to see pure beauty like god intended it to be seen
Feel your pain Randy. In my area of Michigan we have a land preservation group that we pay tax milage to preserve land. We don’t have a large body of water like that but have preserved 1000’s of acres of land. The only way to fight it is with money. Lots of folks want to protect their land if they get some money from it.
Yes! It’s so common here but seldom mentioned in these discussions. Look next door, this isn’t a new issue, other areas have been addressing this for years, to preserve farmland and natural areas. The landowners get paid and get real estate tax relief.
Amen brother your hittin the nail on the head .200 hundred acres fields i use to hunt And trap now are gone .I feel all your pain it's sad .
I spent my childhood at Sunrise Beach, Mo. I think that's very close to where the iriginal amusement park is. About 35 miles by water. I stopped going in 75. Parents retired near there. I loved the Ozarks. It holds almost all my memories of childhood. I've lived in Memphis, TN area for 50 years now.
Randy - I agree on all points and Im in my 60s. I remember coves so clear I could cast for bass by sight. They saw me too but oh well. Side note - when they started gravel dredging on the finley river in the 70s I saw it and wanted to puke.
Its never been the same.
As others have said, if you read about the unimpounded white river before TR, it was a paradise for fishing and clean water and remote wilderness. Can you imagine the Ozarks before they cut the old growth forests?
Sadly this is how it is. Its tragic and sad. Im not sure we can stop it any more than we can stop a tidal wave.
However - you can still find what you are seeking in solutide and natural beauty in the Ozarks. Its in the streams. Wade fish Beaver creek north of bull shoals. Canoe on the Caddo River in arkansas. Yes, the NSR are beautiful if you dont mind competing with a zillion boy scouts but if you are willing to dig a little for info, do your own portaging, or walk some railroad tracks to find access - the clear water and beauty is there to be found as long as its not impounded. Thats the root cause. Nobody wants their weekend getaway in a flood zone. Push against future impoundments, fight for more protections for non NSR streams and that will make a real difference.
Its a man made lake...fishing at Lake Ozarks improved a lot after all the docks showed up. Its good and bad news, depending on your interests.
You hit the nail on the head. If we don't stop there won't ne anything left in less than another 100 years
Yah there will we just won't be here
Unfortunately this is the world we live in.One commenter said this is what capitalism brings, I have traveled abroad, i'ts no different in other countries other than zero regulations on developers. How many of us complain and at the same time contribute to the mess. Randy put out a video last week showing his new bass boat, I wonder how good the manufacturing process to build it was for the enviroment or the gass it will burn or the truck he will use to pull it, all just like the developers, for profit. I wonder how it impacted the environment to clear the land for Randy to build his house, cut down the trees for the lumber to build it? I guess I will be labled a "smart ass" as Randy put it because I am pointing out a bit of hypocrisy. I like Randy, I watch every video but conservation needs to start at home and it needs to be more than a rant. Go to planning meetings, run to get on boards, you probably can't stop development but you can make sure regulations are in place and enforced. This is what we did on one of our local lakes and I believe it has ensured great fishing and balanced recreation. If you want change you have to do more than complain, thats easy, I hope Randy is doing more than ranting on you tube. If he is my sincere apologies.
Randy will respond to you by selling you one of his toxic Lead jigs.
I miss how Table Rock was back in the 80s and 90s.
It has turned into another Lake of The Ozarks. The lower lake area is basically a no-go zone for us. We stay above the highway 13 bridge and stay up in the white river arm and the James river arm.
I have fond memories of that lake. Same time frame 70’s i use to go there with my dad and uncles. I live in Chelsea Oklahoma now and they are getting ready to build a 2 billion dollar theme park in vinita. Pisses me off!
Randy I live in Mn, the places that I hunted as a kid now have houses on them I appreciate what you are saying
I have a lot of memories of fishing with my dad at Table Rock lake as a child.
It was on that lake I found out my parents were divorcing 😢
It’s cool to build on pristine wilderness areas as long as you’re the only one living there. As soon as anyone else wants to build there it becomes a problem.
Not anyone…everyone. And sheesh you sound like a developer . Ignoring the point and reality and voicing your “feelings”
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You sound like Randy. Learn where to place blame.
@@bike4him589yeah the blame is the greedy land owners and developers who want to build these gaudy big buildings and houses and overdevelop
Yeah Albert thats exactly correct, the original people who lived at Table Rock built cabins near the shoreline and did fishing and occasional skiing, now its all these non Missouri non Arkansas rich pos who are blowing up and clearcutting nature to build condos and resorts and mansions. They should gtfo
Exactly, don't do what I already done.
Agree with you 100%!!! Stay Safe & God Bless!! 🤠👍
I was just at Silver Dollar City this past Wednesday for their "Pumpkin Festival".
As one that has been going to SDC since 1965, this USED to be my favorite park to go to.
Marvel Cave was the prime attraction.
The "city" consisted of about six buildings back then, and the stagecoach was the only "ride". They also had a cowboy street shootout, but of course that came to an end due to the "political correctness" that was going on even "back in the day".
Emphasis is put onto the "amusement" rides, instead of the arts and crafts that made this park what it WAS.
Yes, WAS, because the crafts theme is disappearing quickly.
I am saddened by this direction the park is headed.
Some call it "progress", or "keeping with the times". But I call what it is. PROFITEERING!!!
I heard a phrase the other day that makes perfect sense these days.
"STEAL YOUR DOLLAR CITY".
After going to this park for over 59 years, I have to say that this may have been my last visit.
Used to buy season tickets for the whole family every year. Stopped 10 yrs ago as the park began to change for the worse. You are right. It is now "STEAL YOUR DOLLAR CITY".
What kind of Charity is Silver Dollar City?
I agree. As an older fisherman it breaks my heart to see what’s happening to some places I used to fish.
Do you not understand that local officials would not permit them and developers would not build them absent a robust market for such properties? I get tired of everyone blaming local officials and developers, rather than their peers in the general public who create the demand. How many here disgusted by the Table Rock Lake situation live in homes that were once natural habitat, ripped out and replaced by St.Augustine, centipede, zoysia, or some other grass, which then needs fertilizers, insecticides, fungicide, etc. pointing fingers is great, but try to point them in all the right directions.
I used to live in Reeds Sping, and from east of Springfield.
Went to table rock a lot as a kid and silver dollar city.
I can only imagine how messed up it is.
I like nature , I like natural parks, we spend the majority of our vacations in them. I think you might be being a bit hypocritical. I’m sure there are a lot of people out there that are
“disgusted”, not myself, about all the boat ramps and bass boat traffic and the noise they make and the fact that they are taking away from the “natural beauty” and serenity of the lake and would like to put an end to all boating period. That would be a one sided, closed minded and self centered view. Your view, with all due respect, seems no different in its opinionated form. And while you don’t want to hear people complaining about “high taxes” and the “price of eggs” there are people out there feeling the pain and having to scape to get by. I’m assuming you don’t know anyone on a fixed income while inflation is up over 22% in the last 3 1/2 years and having to use credit cards to make ends meet. Your evidently well fed and better off than most.
So what is Randy Blaukat doing about it besides making a video? Its not the government, its not the developers, its the demand to have a home or be on table rock. Its all private property above the lake and if someone owns it they have every right to build there. Dont point the finger at the developer or the government. Point it at the people asking and wanting it.
Apparently he's making you cry a little 😢 Must have hit you right in your lake house.
We camped at Table Rock Lake when I was in my early teens about 1958 and on. It’s so sad it was pristine.
We went to Shell Knob every summer when I was a kid, in the 70"s.
We always stayed at Hidden Cove resort. It was right next to the old B&J's Smokehouse at the end of the bridge.
I guess I'd prefer to just remember the lake as it was, than to visit and see it today.
Wait isn't table rock a man made lake?
@@CrystalStrong-zr9xu It is man made it was built to tame the white River which very destructive to the people of several counties in South West Missouri.
Yes it is man made. So "man made" makes a dif. you ass
Yes, but let's not talk about that! ;)
So they destroyed the environment long ago to put the lake in… WHO do we put the lake in for, do we do that just for fishermen, or to LOOK at…. How long will the dam last before it has to be rebuilt or repaired, or will future generations want to return the river to its former state as others have …. Seems our nature as humans to always destroy… or affect change for perceived improvement… there is no guarantee that any “development” will profit, or last into the future… always a risk
Stop all future permits to build within one mile of shoreline. That should take care of the destruction.
I live up here in St. Louis. There’s all kinds of different places throughout the city and county that need to be bulldozed and developed. I think you’re right. If people want to go live out in the woods in wilderness, they should expect to have to live a certain way. If not go live in the city.
Dont forget all the ridiculous wake boats eroding the shores and stiring up mud all summer.
Thanks!
Thx man!
Again, it's not the Developers, its the local government that issues the permits and zoning.
That’s what I said in the video
the local governments are in it hand in hand with the developers ! they want the $$$$ too ! Very sad
@@randyblaukatintuitive head that at the end. Stop blaming the Developers and put the blame on the voters that vote the people in offices.
@@charlespuckett8429no how about you stop making excuses. It’s the developers pushing it to make money at the expense of the environment. The politicians aren’t approving unless the deve😢paying them under the table everyone knows it
@@charlespuckett8429they vote without advertising the vote. The vote happens without anyone knowing don’t play stupid. If people knew about it they would approve it
Randy, everyone agrees with you. While you went on and on about how bad it is. Perhaps you could suggest things to do that would stop this. Rally the troops with a game plan? If it's to late, how do we slow it down to a snails pace?
Yes I haveI seen it too. Not a very good scenic view to go there. I won’t fish on weekends do to all the boat traffic.
Sad to say... I was at TableRock 20yrs ago. I would say the water was crystal clear.
We live on the lake in Eagle Rock area. Still not overdeveloped down here and after September we get "our" lake back. Sometimes only see one or two boats all day, but sure seems like "they" are coming for us. Hopefully I'll be dead before it gets too bad.
My problem with him on the over development issue is he went and bought a house ( that looks like it's in the country ) on develop land in the country. Why is it okay for him but not anyone else. From the outside looking in it's very hypothetical. Why couldn't he just stay in his last house and keep that land undeveloped.
I see the same thing happening in Arkansas. The place where I used to hunt as a teen in the 70's far away from any houses are now subdivisions. I can drive down a street with nice homes on both sides and say I once shot a deer where that house is and there's no woods even close now.
look what happed with the inspiration tower at the Shepard of the hills. right in the middle of the scenic valley{that was supposed to be the source of the inspiration} they built a bypass highway. nothing is scared anymore!!!
I don’t get all the whining. The place shouldn’t exist to begin with it’s man made. Why isn’t everyone whining about the environment they destroyed to make it ? Oh I know why because having the lake benefits your hobby. Then it’s ok. Has anyone even looked at a Google Map of this place ? It’s covered with resorts and homes. I’m sure one more isn’t going to destroy it. I’m obviously on here because I’m a life long bass fisherman but I can’t stand hypocrisy when I see it. Also if you’re going to be angry with anyone it should be the original land owners who sold it. Even then you have ZERO right to criticize. You don’t stand there and say you’re an American and a patriot and then try to control someone else exercising their own personal freedoms. I really appreciate all the content and the efforts put in but I think this is nothing but hypocritical alarmism.
Amen
Amen
A litle history seems to be needed here. The Table Rock Dam and subsequent lake were authorized by Congress under the Flood Control Act of 1941. Because of WWII and the Korean War, construction did not begin until 1954. Most of the people residing in the area to be flooded did not voluntarily sell their land. Just like the Tennessee Valley Authority, who stole my Grandparents land for pennies on the dollar, to make Kentucky Lake and Lake Barclay, it was taken by the Corps of Engineers under Eminent Domain. You are right about the people outside of the Corps area that sold their land to the highest bidder, they are indeed to blame for all of this development. After all, Silver Dollar City didn't use Eminent Domain Laws to get that 1600 acres, the people that owned it sold it to them and they can do what they want with it. To have avoided all of this the Government (people) should have stolen all of the land for 50 miles around the lake and made it a National Park, just like the Smoky Mountains National Park. Go ask the descendants of the residents of Cades Cove or the Cherokee Tribes.
@@darrellgrant7615 we absolutely will control your "personal freedom", you dont get to dump used oil on your driveway, you dont get to rip the catalytic converters off your car, and you dont get to smoke indoors. Your selfish capitalist freedom comes at the expense of everyone elses freedom to enjoy the outdoors
You do realize those lakes were made to help control flooding and protect more land? Right
I live in Mountain Home, Arkansas, which is between Bull Shoals and Norfork lakes. We don't have the development on our lakes, yet. Hope it never happens.
Most of Arkansas is that way and I love it. Lake Hamilton the only dock lake I can think of withing 3 hours of me.
❤️ Gastons
Just a matter of time.
Table Rock ,how come when you were being babied,& they were destroying Bull Shoals It seemed ok for several years you could go anywhere on the banks of Bull Shoals,you could see all kinds of fish,but after flooding B.S. every spring when the fish spawned them drop the water, meantime C of Eng. Maintained à normal level at T.R ruined B
S to benefit T.R ,your turn !!!!!😊
I remember fishing there 25 years ago and there were very few houses. One of the most beautiful lakes in the country. I haven't fished there for about 8 years but the development was definitely obvious. It's still awesome when you're out on the water looking at the scenery.
I was Born in Florida late 70s. moved to the ozarks at age 15. As a child I watched florida destroyed day by day. Development can change a place overnight. No doubt in my mind its coming here. The golf courses is the start.
I get tired of hearing about Table Rock all the time. I fished it once and was not impressed. Give me Truman or Mark Twain or several other lakes in MO. when it comes to natural areas, I think many people in our community of fishermen are popularizing Table Rock's profile-to it's ultimate detriment. The last thing you should ever want is your home lake popularized by, for example, being put in BassMaster's "Top 100 List".
Sorry to hear this. I thought Table Rock was a conservation lake., with lots of restrictions.
Just because you didn’t have luck the “ONE” time you fished it doesn’t mean it’s a bad lake! Smh…
Table Rock was absolutely beautiful in the 70’s I WAS THERE ABD LOVED IT
DEVELOPERS ARE KILLING THAT LAKE AND I HOPE IT NEVER HAPPENS IN ARKANSAS AT BEAVER LAKE
AT BEAVER YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM 40 FEET DOWN AND SEE THE FISH
DEVELOPMENT THERE WOULD ABSOLUTELY KILL THAT NATURE.. Table Rock is Just the beginning of a trend that will kill Missouri wild… Sick of hearing about it it will happen to Truman a d Mark Twain. If the trend keeps up.. YOUR NOT A NICE PERSON COMPLAINING ABOUT TABLE ROCK
PERIOD !!!!!!!!!
Truman is next for developers and then you will eat your words. How old are you anyway sound like your 12
@@_DB.COOPER Who said I didn't have "luck"? I said I wasn't impressed-that means something deeper than just catching fish.
It's really sad to see, but as long as our population keeps growing, we will keep seeing more of this.
Thanks Randy, I ve also watched this same thing happened to Lake ozarks, Bull shoals, and tablerock, it's sad to see all for money, because that's what it's about, ask johnny Morris, if you think he's doing that for you and I it is about profit and greed, I'm afraid it's to late
Yeah, Johnny is not the cure
This is SO WRONG! I grew up going to Table Rock at every chance for over 50 years. Look at what's been done to Lake of Ozarks commercialization 😢. Only thing that matters to government is $$$$
De ja vu my friend. It happened sadly at Lake of the Ozarks and is still happening. Couldn't have said it better. People fueled by greed period!.
One can enjoy developed and wild/ undeveloped areas. Some favorite wild areas get developed and then it's time to seek out new wild areas. Sometimes you want to go enjoy the activities and fun of a developed place.
It will never stop Randy, no one will get it or understand until it's ALL GONE 😢 . It's like that here in Virginia aswell as every state, it's very sad.
Thank you, Randy. Began in 1965. Stopped in 1995. Back again this year for the first time since then. It was so sad to see. I have no need to go back. But the USA was still under 200,000,000 in 1965 and now is over 350,000,000. What happened to zero population growth? We will die in our own waste!
We went to Table Rock in the 60's. It was so pristine. I saw my first Bald Eagle there. I have seen the white jelly fish. The chicken shit fro Tyson chicken plants have ruined Ten Killer lake and the Illinois river.
I completely agree with you on this. They can't even get enough people to work at the attractions and businesses they have now. Look at how many hotels that have been turned into monthly not so low cost housing to house the workers that still get paid less than $15 per hour. SDC and the shows on the strip have been getting progressively worse over the last decade. The higher priced houses and condo's are either investors or owners who only stay part of the year and airbnb the rest of the time.
Johnny Morris has a little trailer park town full of Nigerians out by big cedar.
The permits aren’t restrictive enough and the developers outsize the scope and the variance is exceeded. Best example is located just over the Kimberling City bridge on the Lampe Mo side. Believe it’s themed Wilderness Mountain. The developers raped the land by over grading, removing all vegetation and not addressing drainage, runoff.
SDC will actually have less impact than smaller negligent projects. Many people point to Big Cedar however the original scope of its main resort has mostly filled-in and has lowered its impact. However the addition of surrounding Morris projects are so vast we won’t see improvements in our lifetime.
Developers and stakeholders will always ask for too much and it falls on the permitting to be the environment adults in the room. We are never safe from the renegade profiteering like the Lampe build because they decided that the “ Fines “ would be an offset to margins. We need to give assh*les like him jail time. Once the grade it the damage is irreversible.
There are ways to build hotels with lower environmental impact. I personally built one in Big Sur, Ca. ( Post Ranch Inn ) we increased our budget to protect trees, watershed, vegetation and designed many rooms as treehouses.
There are no perfect developments because of sewage, usage and utility. Just as our finest National Parks are damaged by visitors each day. Luckily the wildlife fights back and claims the slow runners.
Over
I went through that internal struggle decades ago as I witnessed large family farms being sold and chopped up for "ranchettes". But there's nothing we can do about development except to preserve our small part of rural America as good stewards.
Been fishing TR Lake since the late 60's. Here's a big shocker.... virtually every lake in a tolerable 9 month a year climate with a town like Branson close will never stop developing. It is part of the way the world works. Sucks but it will never change. Plenty of less developed parts of The Rock...it is dwindling but no can ever do anything about it. Yes it sucks but.....
I felt this to my core. I live on Grand Lake, and fondly remember Grand, Table Rock, and the Neosho River in the 60s & 70s. Water so clear, you could see the rocks at the bottom in the Neosho.
I seriously doubt the amusement park will happen in Vinita. So many construction company/infrastructure/financial issues so far, and my guess is Mansion Entertainment would have difficulty competing with the well established SDC expansion.
It’s all so sad that money talks and our environment is sacrificed for greed.
I listen to all your podcasts. I was surprised at your initial comments about I don’t care how much your mortgage is or what you’re paying for a dozen eggs. I would say the bulk of the fisherman and hunters are middle to upper middle class who are being devastated by inflation. Better look farther than land development operations. Who is going to be able to afford to even go to these destinations if things go wrong November 5.
Might be self limiting 😊
You’re right about the parks. But sadly today people don’t like quite time. Seclusion. People want entertainment and excitement. Sadly people want to escape their own minds!!!
Yes greed and money will rule and take over. I think more lakes need to be created!! All these lakes build in the 50’s 60’s and 70’s is overrun. We do need more water!!!
I started going to Branson/Silver Dollar City/ Table Rock Lake in the 70s. I dreamed about retiring down there on a good chunk of land and just getting away from the rush. Everything you say is true. The problem is, there should have been mechanism in place in the 60s or 70s whenever 76 started really growing that kept everything including Table Rock safe. Minimizing the lake front property ownership was not enough and we are where we are and there is no going backwards. I'm sorry to say that, but it is what is, a damn shame...
I've lived in Branson since 2013.the fishing at table Rock sux and the town is run down. SDC tickets are $95 dollars each
We've always called it "Steal Your Dollar City".
I’ve spent a lot of my life fishing table rock and taneycomo and while I appreciate your passion for conservation and against the over development of our natural lands I can’t help but think about the town of Oasis which lies at the bottom of your man made lake 75 years now. I imagine those folks felt the same way. I wish we would leave the natural waterways be so that future generations can enjoy them.
I seen it coming when they made 65 four lane from Springfield to Branson. Along with 13 widening projects. The easier you make it to get there, the more people will come. That's why Bull Shoal hasn't become a touristy spot, there isn't a good way to get there. So sad what it has become.
You mean all the way down to Harrison then over to Alpena.....
The same thing is happening here in Australia.
Economics is the blindfold.
When you mention the environment, the eyes start to glaze over.
Interestingly, our political environment is seeing significant support for green parties for reasons similar to your topic; the Greens now hold seats in our Senate.
This support is largely coming from younger voters.
Although I can easily afford one, I don't have a live scope because I truly believe they harm my fishery, too.
Keep up the good work mate 👍
I was at Table Rock 40 years ago , and I remember as a very beautiful place to visit. WOW this news is horrible.
Move on down to Flippin. Still virtually no defiling of Bull Shoals, and Norfork. Thank COE for thiss.🎉
I was at C of O in the late 80's. At Table Rock In 15 feet of water I could see a coin clearly sitting on the bottom. Clearest lake I'd ever seen. Now? It's murky and not at all what it used to be. Very sad.
Isn't Johnny Morris part of all this development, he's not afraid of tearing up land.
JM spends more on conservation than any private citizen in North America
@@Stonehorn That means he’s probably making way too much.
@@danton94so buy your baits from the mega corporation that owns Tackle Warehouse which puts about 5% of what Morris puts into the environment.
How much money is the corporation that owns Tackle Warehouse? How much have they donated to conservation?
JM has nothing to do with SDC. SDC owns most of Branson.
People like you and I see value in nature, solitude, wilderness, clean air and water. People that have no point of reference just see $$$. Get ready because in the next four years the EPA will be demolished as everything will be for sale. I used go to TR and Bull Shoals in the late 60's but haven't gone back since '82. You are right, it is happening everywhere because greed is pervasive.
In most cases development is not the cause of decline in fishing quality. Time reduces the fertility in most lakes with or without development. I fished Toledo Bend in the mid sixties when you could catch a 15 bass limit in one school of bass in 30 to 45 minutes, there were few marinas and no development. The boom of fish populations are time related and diminish over time due to fertility declines. The same is true with farm ponds, however, farm pond size makes liming and fertilization practical and the boom can be reproduced unlike large impoundments. Remember Long Island was once an Indian village with abundant wildlife and fishing.