Problem of axle loading decreasing with water usage is common to any tank loco. And as for bridge loadings, it was not safe to take a fully coaled and watered Garratt across the Burnett River bridge at Bundaberg. Garratts had to be emptied and hauled across the Burnett "as a vehicle". This, as well as the availability of Blair Athol coal, is why the Garratts were used mostly in the Central Division.
Impressive looking locomotive. We had almost exactly the same type in our home state many years ago, the SAR 400 class garratt - built by Beyer Peacock. Dark green to blackish but instead of coal was oil-fired. Now only two are left. One in museum and no.402 on display at zig zag railways.
I lived in Emerald, at the junction of the cental rly and the Blair Athol line, so I saw plenty of them My father was a railwayman and most of the men I knew were too. Emerals was a railway town.
@EpicureMammon The problem with the Garratt and all tank engine designs is that the axle loading decreases as the water is used up, reducing adhesion and traction. This is not a problem over relatively short runs. QGR Garratts were frequently used on the Rockhamption to Blair Athol for the high grade steaming coal. Total of perhaps 400 km with watering points along the way. Low capacity bridges on the central line in the early 1950s needed light axle loadings, Garratts offered this.
@pyrofella yeah, she has been static display since something went bung a number of years ago. there is an increase in rumors that she may be restored to operation for 2015 but so far nothing has started to be done.
Yes that is Brisbane, Out to Fishermans Is back again, Its an Old Video as the Garret was restored back in the 90s. The Flying Scotmans trip through Brisbane started the love affair of steam trains again
Update on my previous post.... I went Queensland and to my dismay, the Garrett is now just on static display at the Ipswich Workshop Museum... I was informed that they have no plans to put her back in steam.... What a waste.... I settled for a trip on the Mary Valley Rattler instead....a C17steamer that runs from Gympie to Imbil....it was great.
Unfortunately it is rather unlikely unless a generous benefactor comes along. I believe the cost of returning this locomotive to service has been estimated at $3-4 million...
@granskare I think that Garratts are better around tighter corners and the trade offs to achieve that benefit weren't worth it or even necessary on US railways. Maybe they would have been very useful on some lines, I don't know. They definitely are neat looking.
where is this loco running? At first I thought it was running in south Africa after reading the description it turns out its in my home state of QLD. I'm guessing some where up north, because thats not Brisbane (I don't thing could be wrong) and can't be the Gold Coast because the line stops mid Coast at Varsity Lakes + there are not a lot of switches that far south after Brisbane and the line is a bit more modern)
Should be standard gauge, but it's a magnificent engine. But I was wrong Queensland Rail is narrow gauge, 3 ft 6in. Typical Australian, they run all 3 gauges in different parts of the country.
Charles Damery The reason for the different gauges is your fault. We imported an Irishman as CME of railways in Victoria so he set the gauge at 5ft 3 inch like in Ireland then NSW imported an Englishman as CME he set it at Standard gauge like in England the rest was set at 3ft 6in because of the great dividing range of mountains. BUT it is now standard gauge to all major cities and large parts of Victoria and Sth Australia 🇦🇺 and has been for many years
@@michaelnaisbitt1639, no, not so. there was an irishman, a scotsman and an englishman involved, as the old jokes go. it seems an irishman recommended broad gauge and all states agreed. then the irishman was out and someone else took over and convinced nsw to change to sg. then some states changed to ng to save money. i found a fabulous well researched article on this subject. i'll see if i can find a reference for you.
They always seemed to me to be awfully complicated... overthought. Too many parts to go wrong. Also, the 'pulling power' jus' don't seem to be there. A big thing: It doesn't have the grace and presence of the behemoths it shares the rails with. (Side-by-side with 'The Red Devil'... which has stance?)
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Problem of axle loading decreasing with water usage is common to any tank loco. And as for bridge loadings, it was not safe to take a fully coaled and watered Garratt across the Burnett River bridge at Bundaberg. Garratts had to be emptied and hauled across the Burnett "as a vehicle". This, as well as the availability of Blair Athol coal, is why the Garratts were used mostly in the Central Division.
I remember this old train... Fond childhood memories these days. I can't wait until they have it up and running again.
I'm heading for Queensland in later this year..just so I can ride behind this beauty...she's doing trips out of Ipswich in October.. can't wait.
Impressive looking locomotive. We had almost exactly the same type in our home state many years ago, the SAR 400 class garratt - built by Beyer Peacock. Dark green to blackish but instead of coal was oil-fired. Now only two are left. One in museum and no.402 on display at zig zag railways.
what an absolutely beautiful locomotive.
Seriously impressive loco!
Beautiful loco.
Magnificent locomotives
Brings back Good memories. :)
what great locomotive ! 5* and fav.
Roight on toim........Very nice filming, thanks!
Kind Regards from Amersfoort, Netherlands,
Gert
What a great clip, such a shame that we will probably never see her in steam again :(
what a loco,, good video,
I lived in Emerald, at the junction of the cental rly and the Blair Athol line, so I saw plenty of them My father was a railwayman and most of the men I knew were too. Emerals was a railway town.
Cool Steam Garratt
@EpicureMammon The problem with the Garratt and all tank engine designs is that the axle loading decreases as the water is used up, reducing adhesion and traction. This is not a problem over relatively short runs. QGR Garratts were frequently used on the Rockhamption to Blair Athol for the high grade steaming coal. Total of perhaps 400 km with watering points along the way. Low capacity bridges on the central line in the early 1950s needed light axle loadings, Garratts offered this.
we can always hope :(
@pyrofella yeah, she has been static display since something went bung a number of years ago. there is an increase in rumors that she may be restored to operation for 2015 but so far nothing has started to be done.
Yes that is Brisbane, Out to Fishermans Is back again, Its an Old Video as the Garret was restored back in the 90s. The Flying Scotmans trip through Brisbane started the love affair of steam trains again
ah I see, thank you. :)
@granskare - most U.S. railroads played around with the Mallet articulated design, and paid little attention to what Mr Garratt was doing in Britain.
it blew a fusible plug years and years ago and has being sitting in a museum for the last 6-7 years it will never run again
Built in Gorton, Manchester.
It's a shame this one's been committed to a static display... such a beautiful loco and piece of engineering!
I hear the American accent at the end..."Right on Time". Of course it is...it isn't an American train.
Mainlyhuman. 3 feet 6 inches
Update on my previous post.... I went Queensland and to my dismay, the Garrett is now just on static display at the Ipswich Workshop Museum... I was informed that they have no plans to put her back in steam.... What a waste....
I settled for a trip on the Mary Valley Rattler instead....a C17steamer that runs from Gympie to Imbil....it was great.
The government was broke and couldn't get the cracked foundation ring fixed.
Unfortunately it is rather unlikely unless a generous benefactor comes along. I believe the cost of returning this locomotive to service has been estimated at $3-4 million...
@granskare I think that Garratts are better around tighter corners and the trade offs to achieve that benefit weren't worth it or even necessary on US railways. Maybe they would have been very useful on some lines, I don't know. They definitely are neat looking.
I saw her in the museum at Ipswich a couple of years ago.. static display.. cobwebs, dust and rust.... what a waste.....
Ah those were the days when our DELs were still wearing blue. They must have had the entire fleet of timber carriages hooked up that day.
@JBofBrisbane the usual thing here is if we didn't invent it, it can't be good...
Nice video Ken, what other treasures you got stowed away?
My family and I chased the train from Wacol to Ebenezer that say...
Can somebody please tell me if it's true that this engine has been committed to a static display, and will not steam again?
Thanks.......jager
an amazing loco! I don't think it was ever used in the USA...too bad...
In the Wikipedia article they said a fusable plug let go. Probably in the worst spot possible.
@granskare - I have noticed that, but Anatoly Mallet was hardly a U.S. citizen.
where is this loco running? At first I thought it was running in south Africa after reading the description it turns out its in my home state of QLD. I'm guessing some where up north, because thats not Brisbane (I don't thing could be wrong) and can't be the Gold Coast because the line stops mid Coast at Varsity Lakes + there are not a lot of switches that far south after Brisbane and the line is a bit more modern)
Out to the coal mine at Ebenezer, West of Ipswich and then the Murarrie line on Brisbane's Northside, I think.
yeah, well, when you consider her as two locomotives, that price sounds about right.
Should be standard gauge, but it's a magnificent engine. But I was wrong Queensland Rail is narrow gauge, 3 ft 6in. Typical Australian, they run all 3 gauges in different parts of the country.
Pretty much most of Australia's network is standard gauge, and has been since the 60s...
Charles Damery The reason for the different gauges is your fault. We imported an Irishman as CME of railways in Victoria so he set the gauge at 5ft 3 inch like in Ireland then NSW imported an Englishman as CME he set it at Standard gauge like in England the rest was set at 3ft 6in because of the great dividing range of mountains. BUT it is now standard gauge to all major cities and large parts of Victoria and Sth Australia 🇦🇺 and has been for many years
@@michaelnaisbitt1639, no, not so. there was an irishman, a scotsman and an englishman involved, as the old jokes go. it seems an irishman recommended broad gauge and all states agreed. then the irishman was out and someone else took over and convinced nsw to change to sg. then some states changed to ng to save money. i found a fabulous well researched article on this subject. i'll see if i can find a reference for you.
the reference is called the myth of the standard gauge by john ayres mills.
Umm, "that day". No edit button here...
5*****!
They always seemed to me to be awfully complicated... overthought. Too many parts to go wrong. Also, the 'pulling power' jus' don't seem to be there. A big thing: It doesn't have the grace and presence of the behemoths it shares the rails with. (Side-by-side with 'The Red Devil'... which has stance?)
what is the gauge?
3ft. 6ins.
Narrow Gauge
Thats is not Ad 60 garrat its Crimson
who said that it was an Ad 60 garratt, can't you bloody read, the title says 1009 Beyer Garratt, built by Beyer Peacock in England.
dafuq do you want bitch
@@davinaclem8391 France.
@@haekalihsan2660 Is that how you treat women back home?.
I thought UP #3985 was the largest operating steam locomotive in the world.
At the 0.07 mark, it comes up on the screen where its running ...... Roma St, Ebenezer, Fisherman Islands, Roma St. !!!
It says at the beginning of the video where it was running!!!!!!!!!!!!
"...that say" what GR?