Turrican II pleases me greatly. My Best platformer in the universe on Amiga, closely followed by Rainbow islands on SMS. Had a good chuckle at the outtake. :) Good video, keen to see where you go with it. Hopefully inspires me to pull my 1040stfm and falcon out of storage.
You seem to be the same type of collector that I am. I started with a ZX Spectrum back in '83. Due to the lack of money at home, the Spectrum remained my computer until the late eighties. Then I got my first 286! I'm now collecting everything I wanted but could not get, including an Atari 1040STFM. Mine was like new when I got it. The guy who owned it, wrote his thesis on it and it went to storage after that. Keep up the good work, I really like your channel!
Dungeon Master comes to mind when we talk about ST games. You could try to get your hands on the Super Pack or Power Pack disks that were bundled with STs. They’re not necessarily the cream of the crop but give a nice repeesentation of what the ST had to offer.
Wow, great job with the restoration! Looking forward to seeing where this one goes 😉 Thanks for the shoutout too! I'll have a think and send over some game recommendations and the like...
Amazed how little content there is about Atari products considering how big they where. Glad there's been recent burst about them. Always reminds me of Sigue Sigue Sputnik. Very influential in the music world👍
I love my STfm, and that's coming from an old Amiga holdout. An STfm with a Gotek is such a fun gaming system. The one thing I would recommend doing is making a short "extension cord" so that you can easily access the joystick ports from underneath the keyboard. (Especially useful if, like me, you're using a USB to ST mouse adapter)
Love the ST. I'm in Sydney and grew up from 1988-1993 with my 1040 STFM, playing games, making games. I still have it and it still works, except the floppy which I've swapped out with a gotek. The Action Pack of 20 games that came with some STs is a good starting point. Dungeon Master is a classic too.
Love the Atari content!! Thanks for showing some love to my favorite! Not exactly exclusives to the Atari ST, but there are a few games that take advantage of the Midi ports for music. Games like Origin's Ultima III and Ultima IV outputs the music content through the midi out so you can have both in game effects as well as the music. Easiest way to use this is to hook up a midi input capable keyboard (can generally find them pretty reasonable $35 USD here in the states). Also as mentioned before, Dungeon Master was the "killer app" in the mid-80's for the Atari ST.
Beautiful job! I'll bet Adrian Black is jealous of your result. The 520 he is working on has a horrible yellowed key set. Can't wait to see your follow-up.
The "Jackintosh". Legendary computer. The first computer to come out of Atari after Jack Tramiel took over. It's 16 bit, runs GUI with MIDI capability - and Atari got it out before the Amiga. I never owned one, but it was a great computer at a very competitive price. It's always seen as the poor cousin to the Amiga, but it was a great computer. PS You are building an incredible collection of retro computers. Great video. Sad you missed out on the Commodore 64 era - as it was probably the best of all of the retro machines - but I'm biased I grew up with one and still have my original - and playing Pirates on it go me through COVID lockdown in Melbourne!
Mass storage makes a huge difference. I recently bought an UltraSatan for my Atari STE and it makes it a much more usable machine. Also a VGA adapter is a nice addition as the monochrome mode works on standard VGA monitors.
@@MrLurchsThings In the colour modes, yes, you need a 15kHz monitor or scan converter. The monochrome mode is 72kHz, from memory, with a resolution of 640x400.
@@MrLurchsThings The best option that works for modern lcds is the scart cable and one of those scart to hdmi converters (like Adrian has, can't recall if you have one also). You can make the scart cable but i don't recommend it as it has that stupid din connector and the cables are usually about $25 usd.
Got a bit worried when you went to do the retrobrite and using the creme as the ST is one of those machines that is more susceptible to the blotching.. glad to see it worked out and great seeing it all works.
Yeah I agree, I used creme on my 1040STE and it marbled really badly, I ended up having to paint the case, looks decent for the most part, still have to do the keys but will be using liquid peroxide for those I think. Hopeing they come out nice as the whole machine was so bad it was dark orange lol.
@@leemackenzie549 Hah... luckily my chiidhood ST was stored where it didn't get sunlight much so it didn't turn yellow.. but unfortunately it wasn't stored very well and it was stored in a leaky metal shed, so i had tons of internal damage to deal with vs just case damage... got it working but I think i'd take the yellow damage over internal rust.
The one's nowhere near as yellow as the ST that Adrian Black recently restored, that thing was so yellow it was almost orange. The mouse was almost brown. He said it had been exposed to cigarette use residue, so that probably didn't help.
I'm in the same boat as you - picked up an Atari 1040STFM in a job lot of old computers and don't really know what to do with it. Yellowed and dirty but seems to work fine. I had an Amiga many years ago and looked down on the Atari as a lesser machine.
The irony of Amiga Fanboys and Girls! Atari ST was born from Commodore Amiga development and the same teams that Jack took with him, when he set up Atari Corporation! Atari ST is a much better looking machine and has its own character. I own both platforms and the STE is a great machine, just came too late. The Falcon could have wiped the floor with the A1200 if it had been introduced earlier.
@@ghenghiskhan9473 Well, no. The group that made the Amiga left Atari before the ST was made. Atari nearly got the Amiga chipset but the Amiga team were able to pull out of the deal. That pissed off Jack and the lower featured ST line was his attempt to play catch-up. The Amiga 1000 was both better looking and more practical than the ST (separate keyboard, box to put the monitor on top, better mouse/joystick location, better FDD location. Commodore mishandled the Amiga product and it's possible it would have been a greater success had Atari managed to keep it, but that's all just speculation.
@@seanwilliams4087 I personally didn't like the look of the Amiga desktop computers (or the Mega ST) as they just remind me too much of the PCs of the era .. i prefer the wedge computers as i find them more unique and reminiscent of the 80s era computers.
The only game I remember vividly from a friend's ST was Star Trek: Rebel Universe. That game looked absolutely amazing on the ST (and horrific on the PC). I was rubbish at it either way, but damn it was pretty amazing at the time what the ST could do that my PC (a Tandy 1000SX at the time) couldn't.
I don't recall my 1040STF taking THAT long to get to TOS if no floppy was in the drive, but it has been a very long time and I may be wrong. As far as games, I don't recall favorites, but since developers usually ported their games to both the ST and Amiga, if you have Amiga favorites they may be available on the ST, too, like Turrican for instance.
It does take a long time if you have a drive hooked up and no floppy in the drive. I didn't remember it originally either but it's probably because back in the day, we always had a floppy in the drive (or a hd hooked up), but after hooking back up my original st and not having working floppy drive, i rediscovered the slowness 😀
Nice one! That ST looks very schmick after that retrobriting. I'm in a similar position to you in that many computers in my collection are there because I'm trying to catch up what I missed out on. Speaking of which, I need to get my Atari ST out at some point. I bought it 18 months ago and I haven't even powered it on yet!
Smashing restore job! Now you need to get that KP_0 key and your set. Chaos engine was good and there are other cool games I can't seem to remember since it's been decades since I messed with my ST but if you are musically inclined, see about finding a copy of Cubase and put those built in MIDI ports to good use. That's why I went with the machine back in the mid 80's
I am an Amiga person, but I did venture into the Atari territory out of curiosity. I had a 1040Ste and mega ste for a brief while. Mega STE is a really nice machine, it is also nice that it comes with the OS built into ROM, you dont need to boot from floppy like the Amiga. Gameswise though, I was kind of underwhelmed. There wasnt really much that it had better than the Amiga, except a few titles. Prince of Persia maybe ? And sundog which was Atari exclusive I believe ?
I never had an Amiga 500 but an Atari 1040 STFM and I enjoyed playing games like Lemmings, Turrican, Populous 2 and - yes - Civilization (the civ series I play until today, all parts). But when it comes to gaming, I have to admit that the Amiga was better than the Atari ST - which I didn‘t know back in the days, I just was happy with my Atari ST.
Exclusive you must try: *Sky Strike* . Amazingly fun arcade fighter plane game. Made with STOS, which is a programming platform (like Amiga's AMOS, SEUCK for C64). *Wings of Death* (vertical shooter with great soundtrack). Also try *Dungeon Master, Chaos Strikes Back* and *Captive* . Still some of the best dungeon crawler RPGs out there. *Zombi* the first game Ubisoft ever released. Dawn of the Dead vibes in a tactical fps puzzle solver.
Curious question: I see that you're using the "old version" of retrobrighting, and I'm curious as to why? I know The 8-bit Guy eventually switched to using the liquid form of peroxide because the version that you're using is notorious for leaving a 'marbling' effect on the plastics after use. Have you tried using the newer method in a tank with either natural sunlight or with artificial lighting? The results tend to be very uniform. Thanks!
@@MrLurchsThings Try checking the beauty salons. They tend to use it for bleaching hair; they sell the larger bottles and would probably have a fair quantity on-hand. :) Love your work, keep it up!
I would suggest Bolo. It was a very interesting (to me) Breakout variant with lots of various cool ideas like modifiable weight and attraction. [edit because I initially mixed it up with Oxyd, which is a different, but still interesting game]
"In any thing if you want to go from just a beginner to a pro, you need a montage. Even Rocky had a montage! Always fade out in a montage... If you fade out it seems like more time has passed, in a montage..." =)
Great video Mr Lurch! Just a question please. What is the brand of the product you used for the retrobriting and where were you able to get it please? Looks like it did an amazing Job!
Not sure what lurch used since he's in Australia, but here in the states, generally what people use is Salon Care 40 which you can get from Sallys Beauty which is a chain store. They have both creme and clear, if you're good then creme like lurch used works and overall cheaper, but i personally use the clear mixed with water and soak things because it's less risky if you aren't on top of it constantly massaging and watching. Plus clear is better for keys as you just throw them in a bag with a mix of clear and water.
The main ST claim to fame was MIDI support. If you are looking for something novel to do with the with it, get hold of some MIDI to USB cables and set up a PC as a MIDI device emulator (Munt for instance) (assuming you don’t have any dedicated hardware). Then run some of the original sequencing and notation software available. I have not seen anyone do this on TH-cam before.
@@MrLurchsThings I got this to work with Munt and Notator. Demo track sounded dreadful but the principle holds up. Trying with JMJ Oxygene, Pt. 4 and various other PC synths. Crashes Notator at the moment!
Hello, please I need your help. I have an Atari 1040 stfm with what I believe to a power supply problem. It works for about 30 minutes then it goes off. I then have to reboot again and again before I get it to be stable. Can you kindly help me out to get it stable once and for all without me having to reboot over and over again. Sorry I use it for music production.
I would suggest a computer muffin fan sitting on top of the Atari computer over the power supply on the left side where the warm air is rising. Put a filter on top of the fan that is blowing air into the computer. I even cut a bigger slot (my own STe), over the power supply, in the metal shield to get cool air into the computer.
Creatures is better on ST than Amiga. Super Sprint was an exclusive to ST over Amiga until a homebrew port brought it across recently for AGA machines.
I know the feeling. Either my guitars are breeding or I am inpluse buying late at night. My computing life wnet from using a card reading mini system with time borrowed by my school. Then a Sepctrum ZX, Apple IIe and the a Mac 128k. That lead to a life time of Macs.
I can't recall what the mouSTer supported, i had a different one but i picked up the smallymouse from lotherek when i got an ultrasatan and what i did like on the smallymouse2 is that it supported wireless mice which is great because you don't have to deal with plugging in wired mice (which on mine is that horrible under keyboard placement) so it can stay plugged in all the time even when put away.
Lemme know your game recommendations! Especially looking for exclusives (where there any?) Perhaps games that never appeared on that other computer?
Turrican II pleases me greatly. My Best platformer in the universe on Amiga, closely followed by Rainbow islands on SMS. Had a good chuckle at the outtake. :) Good video, keen to see where you go with it. Hopefully inspires me to pull my 1040stfm and falcon out of storage.
Time Bandit, Atari ST. Pretty basic, but kind of a satisfying grind.
You seem to be the same type of collector that I am. I started with a ZX Spectrum back in '83. Due to the lack of money at home, the Spectrum remained my computer until the late eighties. Then I got my first 286! I'm now collecting everything I wanted but could not get, including an Atari 1040STFM. Mine was like new when I got it. The guy who owned it, wrote his thesis on it and it went to storage after that. Keep up the good work, I really like your channel!
Loved The post credits scene!!!
The end was very funny.
"Defender of the Crown" was my favourite.
As an Amiga person, that line at the end got a pop out of me, haha! Great restoration work!
Dungeon Master comes to mind when we talk about ST games. You could try to get your hands on the Super Pack or Power Pack disks that were bundled with STs. They’re not necessarily the cream of the crop but give a nice repeesentation of what the ST had to offer.
Wow, great job with the restoration! Looking forward to seeing where this one goes 😉
Thanks for the shoutout too! I'll have a think and send over some game recommendations and the like...
Amazed how little content there is about Atari products considering how big they where. Glad there's been recent burst about them. Always reminds me of Sigue Sigue Sputnik. Very influential in the music world👍
Atari certainly liked their sheet metalwork. :)
I believe they farmed out the RF shielding to Tonka. ;-)
Thats interesting, it looks sturdy. :)
I love my STfm, and that's coming from an old Amiga holdout. An STfm with a Gotek is such a fun gaming system. The one thing I would recommend doing is making a short "extension cord" so that you can easily access the joystick ports from underneath the keyboard. (Especially useful if, like me, you're using a USB to ST mouse adapter)
Love the ST. I'm in Sydney and grew up from 1988-1993 with my 1040 STFM, playing games, making games. I still have it and it still works, except the floppy which I've swapped out with a gotek. The Action Pack of 20 games that came with some STs is a good starting point. Dungeon Master is a classic too.
My dream computer as a kid along with the commodore 128
Love the Atari content!! Thanks for showing some love to my favorite! Not exactly exclusives to the Atari ST, but there are a few games that take advantage of the Midi ports for music. Games like Origin's Ultima III and Ultima IV outputs the music content through the midi out so you can have both in game effects as well as the music. Easiest way to use this is to hook up a midi input capable keyboard (can generally find them pretty reasonable $35 USD here in the states). Also as mentioned before, Dungeon Master was the "killer app" in the mid-80's for the Atari ST.
Beautiful job! I'll bet Adrian Black is jealous of your result. The 520 he is working on has a horrible yellowed key set. Can't wait to see your follow-up.
The entire ST was yellowed. He has retrobrighted the case, but is leaving the treatment of the keys to the next segment.
Nice work on the retrobriting - Ataris tend to be a little hit and miss when it comes to that, and you get some horror stories...
The "Jackintosh". Legendary computer. The first computer to come out of Atari after Jack Tramiel took over. It's 16 bit, runs GUI with MIDI capability - and Atari got it out before the Amiga. I never owned one, but it was a great computer at a very competitive price. It's always seen as the poor cousin to the Amiga, but it was a great computer. PS You are building an incredible collection of retro computers. Great video. Sad you missed out on the Commodore 64 era - as it was probably the best of all of the retro machines - but I'm biased I grew up with one and still have my original - and playing Pirates on it go me through COVID lockdown in Melbourne!
Great video and love the shoutouts to Ctrl Alt Reese and Jan Beta!
Mass storage makes a huge difference. I recently bought an UltraSatan for my Atari STE and it makes it a much more usable machine. Also a VGA adapter is a nice addition as the monochrome mode works on standard VGA monitors.
The VGA adaptor still relies on a 15khz monitor, yeah?
@@MrLurchsThings In the colour modes, yes, you need a 15kHz monitor or scan converter. The monochrome mode is 72kHz, from memory, with a resolution of 640x400.
@@MrLurchsThings The best option that works for modern lcds is the scart cable and one of those scart to hdmi converters (like Adrian has, can't recall if you have one also). You can make the scart cable but i don't recommend it as it has that stupid din connector and the cables are usually about $25 usd.
Great video and a very nice job on the restoration. Also loved the post credit bit 🤣🤣
I'm envious. Mine is the humble 520STFM.
This gives me confidence to retrobrite my Mac SE
Got a bit worried when you went to do the retrobrite and using the creme as the ST is one of those machines that is more susceptible to the blotching.. glad to see it worked out and great seeing it all works.
Yeah I agree, I used creme on my 1040STE and it marbled really badly, I ended up having to paint the case, looks decent for the most part, still have to do the keys but will be using liquid peroxide for those I think.
Hopeing they come out nice as the whole machine was so bad it was dark orange lol.
@@leemackenzie549 Hah... luckily my chiidhood ST was stored where it didn't get sunlight much so it didn't turn yellow.. but unfortunately it wasn't stored very well and it was stored in a leaky metal shed, so i had tons of internal damage to deal with vs just case damage... got it working but I think i'd take the yellow damage over internal rust.
Very cool hobby, nice Atari great score.
Was considering whether or not to like the video, but the end sealed it.
Kidding, was going to like regardless. 👍
international karate on ST had different backgrounds to the other ports. i remember Venice and London buckingham palace : )
The one's nowhere near as yellow as the ST that Adrian Black recently restored, that thing was so yellow it was almost orange. The mouse was almost brown. He said it had been exposed to cigarette use residue, so that probably didn't help.
I'm in the same boat as you - picked up an Atari 1040STFM in a job lot of old computers and don't really know what to do with it. Yellowed and dirty but seems to work fine. I had an Amiga many years ago and looked down on the Atari as a lesser machine.
The irony of Amiga Fanboys and Girls! Atari ST was born from Commodore Amiga development and the same teams that Jack took with him, when he set up Atari Corporation! Atari ST is a much better looking machine and has its own character. I own both platforms and the STE is a great machine, just came too late. The Falcon could have wiped the floor with the A1200 if it had been introduced earlier.
@@ghenghiskhan9473 Well, no. The group that made the Amiga left Atari before the ST was made. Atari nearly got the Amiga chipset but the Amiga team were able to pull out of the deal. That pissed off Jack and the lower featured ST line was his attempt to play catch-up. The Amiga 1000 was both better looking and more practical than the ST (separate keyboard, box to put the monitor on top, better mouse/joystick location, better FDD location. Commodore mishandled the Amiga product and it's possible it would have been a greater success had Atari managed to keep it, but that's all just speculation.
@@seanwilliams4087 I personally didn't like the look of the Amiga desktop computers (or the Mega ST) as they just remind me too much of the PCs of the era .. i prefer the wedge computers as i find them more unique and reminiscent of the 80s era computers.
Funny to see the difference in handling of the labels when retrobriting between Adrian Black and Lurch.
Two pretty different ways or going about the retrobriting.
The only game I remember vividly from a friend's ST was Star Trek: Rebel Universe. That game looked absolutely amazing on the ST (and horrific on the PC). I was rubbish at it either way, but damn it was pretty amazing at the time what the ST could do that my PC (a Tandy 1000SX at the time) couldn't.
I don't recall my 1040STF taking THAT long to get to TOS if no floppy was in the drive, but it has been a very long time and I may be wrong. As far as games, I don't recall favorites, but since developers usually ported their games to both the ST and Amiga, if you have Amiga favorites they may be available on the ST, too, like Turrican for instance.
It does take a long time if you have a drive hooked up and no floppy in the drive. I didn't remember it originally either but it's probably because back in the day, we always had a floppy in the drive (or a hd hooked up), but after hooking back up my original st and not having working floppy drive, i rediscovered the slowness 😀
You are supposed to hit a key, on the keyboard, to get right into the green screen. Try hitting a key next time you start without a floppy.
Nice one! That ST looks very schmick after that retrobriting.
I'm in a similar position to you in that many computers in my collection are there because I'm trying to catch up what I missed out on.
Speaking of which, I need to get my Atari ST out at some point. I bought it 18 months ago and I haven't even powered it on yet!
Sounds like a video idea 👍
I always wanted one of these when I was a kid as well. Never did happen. Perhaps I'll go blow some money on one as well!
Smashing restore job! Now you need to get that KP_0 key and your set. Chaos engine was good and there are other cool games I can't seem to remember since it's been decades since I messed with my ST but if you are musically inclined, see about finding a copy of Cubase and put those built in MIDI ports to good use. That's why I went with the machine back in the mid 80's
You need more subs!
xenon ii, blood money, gods, krypton egg, those are ports that are equally good in both machines.
I am an Amiga person, but I did venture into the Atari territory out of curiosity. I had a 1040Ste and mega ste for a brief while. Mega STE is a really nice machine, it is also nice that it comes with the OS built into ROM, you dont need to boot from floppy like the Amiga.
Gameswise though, I was kind of underwhelmed. There wasnt really much that it had better than the Amiga, except a few titles. Prince of Persia maybe ? And sundog which was Atari exclusive I believe ?
What's 3-O-3?
Looks like a beaut! I'm 100% an Amiga guy, but it'd be nice to play around with a ST. No shame in that nowadays ;)
I never had an Amiga 500 but an Atari 1040 STFM and I enjoyed playing games like Lemmings, Turrican, Populous 2 and - yes - Civilization (the civ series I play until today, all parts). But when it comes to gaming, I have to admit that the Amiga was better than the Atari ST - which I didn‘t know back in the days, I just was happy with my Atari ST.
Exclusive you must try: *Sky Strike* . Amazingly fun arcade fighter plane game. Made with STOS, which is a programming platform (like Amiga's AMOS, SEUCK for C64).
*Wings of Death* (vertical shooter with great soundtrack).
Also try *Dungeon Master, Chaos Strikes Back* and *Captive* . Still some of the best dungeon crawler RPGs out there.
*Zombi* the first game Ubisoft ever released. Dawn of the Dead vibes in a tactical fps puzzle solver.
Curious question: I see that you're using the "old version" of retrobrighting, and I'm curious as to why? I know The 8-bit Guy eventually switched to using the liquid form of peroxide because the version that you're using is notorious for leaving a 'marbling' effect on the plastics after use. Have you tried using the newer method in a tank with either natural sunlight or with artificial lighting? The results tend to be very uniform. Thanks!
A case of "just havent gotten that far". It's planned, but yeah.
I'm still trying to find a reliable, local source of clear peroxide too.
@@MrLurchsThings Try checking the beauty salons. They tend to use it for bleaching hair; they sell the larger bottles and would probably have a fair quantity on-hand. :) Love your work, keep it up!
I would suggest Bolo. It was a very interesting (to me) Breakout variant with lots of various cool ideas like modifiable weight and attraction. [edit because I initially mixed it up with Oxyd, which is a different, but still interesting game]
"In any thing if you want to go from just a beginner to a pro, you need a montage. Even Rocky had a montage!
Always fade out in a montage... If you fade out it seems like more time has passed, in a montage..." =)
Great video Mr Lurch! Just a question please. What is the brand of the product you used for the retrobriting and where were you able to get it please? Looks like it did an amazing Job!
Not sure what lurch used since he's in Australia, but here in the states, generally what people use is Salon Care 40 which you can get from Sallys Beauty which is a chain store. They have both creme and clear, if you're good then creme like lurch used works and overall cheaper, but i personally use the clear mixed with water and soak things because it's less risky if you aren't on top of it constantly massaging and watching. Plus clear is better for keys as you just throw them in a bag with a mix of clear and water.
What's that line on the Monitor is the screen scratched.
Line? No.
@@MrLurchsThings on the the video there seemed to be a line like looked like a scratch I'm glad it wasn't.
The main ST claim to fame was MIDI support. If you are looking for something novel to do with the with it, get hold of some MIDI to USB cables and set up a PC as a MIDI device emulator (Munt for instance) (assuming you don’t have any dedicated hardware). Then run some of the original sequencing and notation software available. I have not seen anyone do this on TH-cam before.
I want to source a mt32-pi - could be useful for a few machines.
@@MrLurchsThings I got this to work with Munt and Notator. Demo track sounded dreadful but the principle holds up. Trying with JMJ Oxygene, Pt. 4 and various other PC synths. Crashes Notator at the moment!
Hello, please I need your help. I have an Atari 1040 stfm with what I believe to a power supply problem. It works for about 30 minutes then it goes off. I then have to reboot again and again before I get it to be stable. Can you kindly help me out to get it stable once and for all without me having to reboot over and over again. Sorry I use it for music production.
Although YT comments isnt the best way of offering advice, *but* I would start with replacing the capacitors on the PSU
I would suggest a computer muffin fan sitting on top of the Atari computer over the power supply on the left side where the warm air is rising. Put a filter on top of the fan that is blowing air into the computer. I even cut a bigger slot (my own STe), over the power supply, in the metal shield to get cool air into the computer.
Creatures is better on ST than Amiga. Super Sprint was an exclusive to ST over Amiga until a homebrew port brought it across recently for AGA machines.
I know the feeling. Either my guitars are breeding or I am inpluse buying late at night. My computing life wnet from using a card reading mini system with time borrowed by my school. Then a Sepctrum ZX, Apple IIe and the a Mac 128k. That lead to a life time of Macs.
Test Wolfenstein 3d on it!
Job #1 is to get a mouse for it.
The mice are horrible, good for the look of the st, but for using it's better to get a smallymouse2 dongle and a modern mouse.
I’ll be using the mouSTer I reviewed a while back.
I can't recall what the mouSTer supported, i had a different one but i picked up the smallymouse from lotherek when i got an ultrasatan and what i did like on the smallymouse2 is that it supported wireless mice which is great because you don't have to deal with plugging in wired mice (which on mine is that horrible under keyboard placement) so it can stay plugged in all the time even when put away.
DOOD!