@@KajiVocals I know I've said this on several videos lol but you are such a gem. I know you do this for the love of it, but if you ever consider putting up a way to support your financially, I would gladly do so, & I'm sure others would too.
Erma’s voice and delivery just do something to me. Straight church but she could pull it back when she wanted to. Her version of Light My Fire is my favourite vocal of her’s with Don’t Wait Too Long (jazzy, big band and more restrained) and Hold on I’m Comin’ close 2nd and 3rd.
Yess, big soprano, dunno if Dramatic cause her voice is very similar to Morgan James, who I personally consider to be a Spinto. Morgan seems to have a little higher tessitura probably technique and training related, but I think Erma could hold full mix Bb5 and maybe hit higher
@@KajiVocals Yeah, lyric soprano from what I remember, but now she's more of a spinto imo, although it could just be that she employs a fuller belt and also darken her timbre and place her voice lower than most modern Broadway pop lyrics
@@gegiocavacci2589 Morgan james was trained as a lyric coloratura soprano , theres a video of her demonstrating her coloratura skills on play bill and there was a video of her singing the De holler rache (queen of the night )
Carolyn out of the three has my favourite belt (and I also think probably the best belting technique as well). Unfortunately we have very little live material from either sisters. For Aretha, I adore her voice 1960-mid 1970s, not really a fan of her voice in the 80s when the smoking really affected her voice.
@@KajiVocals I think Erma has something wrong with her vibrato? like caprinho atimes? not very noticeable but it is there.. again atimes.But she seems to have the bigger of all the voices of the sisters..She sounds like Shirley in some areas??? lol..
@@odumosuolusegun2781 I agree. It's not so much a caprino, as her vibrato is very wide and almost wobbly. It sounds a bit like Beyonce's vibrato. The darkest and biggest voice out of the Franklins naturally. That being said, I do think Aretha was a bigger-sized soprano naturally but she modified her tone a lot. Carolyn seems to be singing fairly naturally to me in terms of tone.
@@KajiVocals Carolyn is light and high. Aretha tried to fake her tone in the late 70s to sound like Carolyn I meant a wobble..I have said this about Beyonce but they call me crazy white middle voice with a wobble and over brightened white toned upper belt....Even her head voice ...it is not fully dense minus the effects..
Hey! Could you do a vocal range video on the vocalist known as "Taya Smith"? Shes in a Christian band called Hillsong United, I believe her vocal range is D3-A5. I would love to see what your thought is on her since you seem to know a lot about the voice and she has a very interesting way of singing. Heres a video for reference if youre interested: th-cam.com/video/i8aSZp_BLso/w-d-xo.html and also id recommended checking out this channel: th-cam.com/channels/2aPy0ZBJtClzur1zLTe6Cw.html they have a lot of small videos on her best vocal moments and high notes.
Hey Mr. Kaji after seeing this soprano with so much depth I'd like to ask what type of voice Beyonce's is and where her passagio sits or if thats too controversial what do you think about linda eder as a singer does she have a developed chest voice? Ps. Thank you for your videos they're always entertaining and insightful
I do personally think Beyonce started off as a soprano and showed a soprano voice right until her pregnancies. I am not the most familiar with her voice post-pregnancies but I do believe she became a mezzo after them most likely. Great singer although I’m not really fond of her tone or vibrato. I heard very little from Linda. I’ll listen and get back to you.
I don't know if I'ma a *mezzo* or *dark lyric soprano* IDK 💀 my timbre is darkened and voice is abit heavy but other days my voice is light and bright again anything above *E5/F5* I have to push and before I could sing *G#5/A5* effortless
More than likely a mezzo, especially if your comfort zone is your middle and your timbre is dark, as you age the voice changes considerably. I use to be able to belt up to B5 regularly and go up to the seventh octave despite the fact I was clearly a low mezzo. However over the last five years my voice has lowered considerably but as I ascend my voice gets lighter as soon as I get above C#5.
@@ladysasha90 Everyone is gonna be more comfortable in the middle than on the top though if we are talking abotu FULL VOICE. If we talk about mix, then sure. Mix and belt are two very different things. The term 'dark' is also rather relative I'd say. What is dark for a soprano (Rosa Ponselle in opera; Vickie Winans, Angela Winbush or Jean Carne in contemporary) can be not dark at all compared to genuine dark mezzos (Della Reese, Doris Akers, Melonie Daniels, Tina Turner etc). Doesn't really discredit what you said but still wanted to mention it as people throw the term 'dark voice' around when it can mean quite a lot of things. There's also a natural and manufactured darkness too.
Hi Kaji do you agree with "ILOVEARETHAFRANKLIN" chaka khan is a mezzo, aretha is a Coloratura soprano, jessye norman is a dramatic soprano? it doesn't make sense to me.
No. Chaka is a soprano. Aretha is a normal soprano. One that was damaged with smoking eventually. Jessye is a woofy lyric soprano. th-cam.com/video/vcC2xgZY40E/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/aoS6c_arYnI/w-d-xo.html Notice actually that Battle has a clearer and more cutting voice when they sing together. Better development and projection. Here’s Battle unmiked th-cam.com/video/B8LFUDwZhvQ/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/whkd-rCJ0gg/w-d-xo.html Her issues mostly lie in her middle range which is quite frankly non-existent in her prime. It got better later on but as it was getting better she was blacklisted from the MET so we didn’t really hear from her again.
@@KajiVocals yes. Chaka actually is a Soprano. Aretha is a Soprano there's no Coloratura in her voice. Jessye she has a good lows but yes wooble voice, she trying to be a dramatic soprano lol. So the channel with name "ILOVEARETHAFRANKLIN" Just a bullshit. I don't know why many people believe him.
Kaji & Roer: “ILOVEARETHAFRANKLIN” videos are accurate. Their videos and analysis are peer reviewed by music and voice academics. It is not necessary for you to try to discredit their brand to make you seem creditable. You both obviously watch their videos a lot for you to throw their brand around in conversations. Most of your brand Kaji is just notating notes without any real analysis or explanation to back them up. As well as, CREDENTIALS! Unfurling inaccurate information isn’t cute. Bless you and this struggling ass channel. 💋
@@jadawoodard1068 My views are all based on the Estill, CVT and a few other singing systems And I do often consult with people in both the industry and also professional vocal pedagogues and teachers. All of my views on the vocal fäch and vocal categorisation were passed on to me from people who are employed in the classical field and also come from hundreds of hours of research and listening to the classical repertoire. I do not mind sharing the names of my sources (assuming they allow me to do so) but I would not do it publicly. I could do more detailed videos on analasis as you say, but why? I don’t want to do it. And I don’t need to. I am about as much discrediting his views as he is mine. And I do not create this channel to get exposure or views. I do it to expose people to UNDERRATED voices of the past and current music. Also belittling where? I didn’t even mention ILAF in my comments above...
@@KajiVocals ignore Kaji, Aretha a coloratura is already enough misinformation for my 44 years! Meanwhile, the person said this: Their videos and analysis are peer reviewed by music and voice academics. proof of this...They must be academics in some kind of death alley?
Yes! Erma had the darkest voice out of the three naturally. Almost a mezzo timbre at times. Aretha had a rather bright instrument naturally but it darkened through all the smoking etc. I don't think she ever became a true mezzo though, just a damaged soprano. Carolyn had the highest and brightest voice, with the highest tessitura. Very effortless and quite full. She can mix up 2 semitones above Aretha and does it a few times in one song. Surprisingly Erma has the worst lower range out of the three. While it sure has tone, she often disappeared as 'high' as A3 and was going sharp below G#3. I would say all of them had high-set voices with different levels of colour to it.
@@issakelly8071 Probably bad promotion tbh. Erma had a big hit with Piece of My Heart (that Janis Joplin covered) but was a bit of a ‘one hit wonder’ unfortunately. I’m not really sure how popular Carolyn got as I didn’t look into her charts but seeing how she had a few more albums than Erma, I’ll assume she probably was a bigger commercial success. I also think a part of them not getting more popular was Aretha’s success to an extent, and the fact that there were quite a lot of other, more popular singers singing in the same style in that period.
@@scottgrunow5201 If you wanna hear a real ‘dramatic mezzo’ in pop look no further than young Della Reese’s voice. There’s a great performance of hers at the Ed Sullivan Show on TH-cam. She was a mezzo till the somewhere in the 1980s where her voice dropped to contralto. Very conservative with her use of high range though. But what she did use was good. There should be a vid on her soon.
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11:05 ate that performance up
THX’s Kaji for Erma Franklin & the backstory I learned in the chat! Gotta give a nod to the Frankie parents for giving us all this soul! ♥️
Bravo Kaji , you got me hooked on her even though I haven't listened to any of her songs yet .
Kudos to you for even doing this video. Very appreciated.
Carolyn is up next. Should be up tomorrow or day after. Aretha will get a few vids, one per decade.
@@KajiVocals I know I've said this on several videos lol but you are such a gem. I know you do this for the love of it, but if you ever consider putting up a way to support your financially, I would gladly do so, & I'm sure others would too.
Thank you very much!
Erma’s voice and delivery just do something to me. Straight church but she could pull it back when she wanted to.
Her version of Light My Fire is my favourite vocal of her’s with Don’t Wait Too Long (jazzy, big band and more restrained) and Hold on I’m Comin’ close 2nd and 3rd.
Hey! How are you doing? Long time not hearing from you.
Yess, big soprano, dunno if Dramatic cause her voice is very similar to Morgan James, who I personally consider to be a Spinto. Morgan seems to have a little higher tessitura probably technique and training related, but I think Erma could hold full mix Bb5 and maybe hit higher
I could have sworn I heard Morgan was trained as a coloratura or lyric though?
@@KajiVocals Yeah, lyric soprano from what I remember, but now she's more of a spinto imo, although it could just be that she employs a fuller belt and also darken her timbre and place her voice lower than most modern Broadway pop lyrics
@@gegiocavacci2589 Morgan james was trained as a lyric coloratura soprano , theres a video of her demonstrating her coloratura skills on play bill and there was a video of her singing the De holler rache (queen of the night )
I hear alot of cissy houston. In her voice
Very nice video, loved her tone!!
Erma was extremely talented.....but ARETHA....sheesh.....ARETHA was a force of nature.
I do like Erma.
Carolyn out of the three has my favourite belt (and I also think probably the best belting technique as well). Unfortunately we have very little live material from either sisters. For Aretha, I adore her voice 1960-mid 1970s, not really a fan of her voice in the 80s when the smoking really affected her voice.
@@KajiVocals I think Erma has something wrong with her vibrato? like caprinho atimes? not very noticeable but it is there.. again atimes.But she seems to have the bigger of all the voices of the sisters..She sounds like Shirley in some areas??? lol..
@@odumosuolusegun2781 I agree. It's not so much a caprino, as her vibrato is very wide and almost wobbly. It sounds a bit like Beyonce's vibrato. The darkest and biggest voice out of the Franklins naturally. That being said, I do think Aretha was a bigger-sized soprano naturally but she modified her tone a lot. Carolyn seems to be singing fairly naturally to me in terms of tone.
@@KajiVocals Carolyn is light and high. Aretha tried to fake her tone in the late 70s to sound like Carolyn
I meant a wobble..I have said this about Beyonce but they call me crazy
white middle voice with
a wobble and over brightened white toned upper belt....Even her head voice ...it is not fully dense minus the effects..
Hey! Could you do a vocal range video on the vocalist known as "Taya Smith"? Shes in a Christian band called Hillsong United, I believe her vocal range is D3-A5. I would love to see what your thought is on her since you seem to know a lot about the voice and she has a very interesting way of singing. Heres a video for reference if youre interested: th-cam.com/video/i8aSZp_BLso/w-d-xo.html and also id recommended checking out this channel: th-cam.com/channels/2aPy0ZBJtClzur1zLTe6Cw.html they have a lot of small videos on her best vocal moments and high notes.
Hey Mr. Kaji after seeing this soprano with so much depth I'd like to ask what type of voice Beyonce's is and where her passagio sits or if thats too controversial what do you think about linda eder as a singer does she have a developed chest voice?
Ps. Thank you for your videos they're always entertaining and insightful
I do personally think Beyonce started off as a soprano and showed a soprano voice right until her pregnancies. I am not the most familiar with her voice post-pregnancies but I do believe she became a mezzo after them most likely. Great singer although I’m not really fond of her tone or vibrato.
I heard very little from Linda. I’ll listen and get back to you.
@@KajiVocals Thank you Mr. Kaji 😁
To me she kind of sounds like Chaka Khan but maybe a little darker? Or something I guess
That G5 at 13:10 was.... I LOVE ERMA *cries*
I don't know if I'ma a *mezzo* or *dark lyric soprano* IDK 💀 my timbre is darkened and voice is abit heavy but other days my voice is light and bright again
anything above *E5/F5* I have to push and
before I could sing *G#5/A5* effortless
Clips are the only good descriptor.
@@KajiVocals you want to hear 💀 I'm shy
@@aduhaduh4426 just upload your video about singing or vocal range in your youtube.
More than likely a mezzo, especially if your comfort zone is your middle and your timbre is dark, as you age the voice changes considerably. I use to be able to belt up to B5 regularly and go up to the seventh octave despite the fact I was clearly a low mezzo. However over the last five years my voice has lowered considerably but as I ascend my voice gets lighter as soon as I get above C#5.
@@ladysasha90 Everyone is gonna be more comfortable in the middle than on the top though if we are talking abotu FULL VOICE. If we talk about mix, then sure. Mix and belt are two very different things.
The term 'dark' is also rather relative I'd say. What is dark for a soprano (Rosa Ponselle in opera; Vickie Winans, Angela Winbush or Jean Carne in contemporary) can be not dark at all compared to genuine dark mezzos (Della Reese, Doris Akers, Melonie Daniels, Tina Turner etc). Doesn't really discredit what you said but still wanted to mention it as people throw the term 'dark voice' around when it can mean quite a lot of things. There's also a natural and manufactured darkness too.
Hi Kaji
do you agree with "ILOVEARETHAFRANKLIN" chaka khan is a mezzo, aretha is a Coloratura soprano, jessye norman is a dramatic soprano? it doesn't make sense to me.
No. Chaka is a soprano. Aretha is a normal soprano. One that was damaged with smoking eventually. Jessye is a woofy lyric soprano.
th-cam.com/video/vcC2xgZY40E/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/aoS6c_arYnI/w-d-xo.html
Notice actually that Battle has a clearer and more cutting voice when they sing together. Better development and projection.
Here’s Battle unmiked th-cam.com/video/B8LFUDwZhvQ/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/whkd-rCJ0gg/w-d-xo.html
Her issues mostly lie in her middle range which is quite frankly non-existent in her prime. It got better later on but as it was getting better she was blacklisted from the MET so we didn’t really hear from her again.
@@KajiVocals yes. Chaka actually is a Soprano. Aretha is a Soprano there's no Coloratura in her voice. Jessye she has a good lows but yes wooble voice, she trying to be a dramatic soprano lol.
So the channel with name "ILOVEARETHAFRANKLIN" Just a bullshit. I don't know why many people believe him.
Kaji & Roer: “ILOVEARETHAFRANKLIN” videos are accurate. Their videos and analysis are peer reviewed by music and voice academics. It is not necessary for you to try to discredit their brand to make you seem creditable.
You both obviously watch their videos a lot for you to throw their brand around in conversations.
Most of your brand Kaji is just notating notes without any real analysis or explanation to back them up. As well as, CREDENTIALS!
Unfurling inaccurate information isn’t cute.
Bless you and this struggling ass channel. 💋
@@jadawoodard1068 My views are all based on the Estill, CVT and a few other singing systems And I do often consult with people in both the industry and also professional vocal pedagogues and teachers. All of my views on the vocal fäch and vocal categorisation were passed on to me from people who are employed in the classical field and also come from hundreds of hours of research and listening to the classical repertoire. I do not mind sharing the names of my sources (assuming they allow me to do so) but I would not do it publicly.
I could do more detailed videos on analasis as you say, but why? I don’t want to do it. And I don’t need to.
I am about as much discrediting his views as he is mine.
And I do not create this channel to get exposure or views. I do it to expose people to UNDERRATED voices of the past and current music.
Also belittling where? I didn’t even mention ILAF in my comments above...
@@KajiVocals ignore Kaji, Aretha a coloratura is already enough misinformation for my 44 years!
Meanwhile, the person said this: Their videos and analysis are peer reviewed by music and voice academics.
proof of this...They must be academics in some kind of death alley?
I don't know but I think her voice like Dione Warwick or Dona Summer.
This is Aretha's elder sister!
@@KajiVocals I know. I just want to say her tone same like Dione or Dona IMO🤓
@@roerrawr1017 I can hear Donna. I don't really hear Dionne. Maybe the tone itself but Dionne has a fuller voice overall.
what type of soprano is she ? i can hear the similarities of Aretha and Donna Summer in some of her belts
Kaji , does a rhinoplasty change the vocal tone or does it depend on technique ?
It can change it slightly,
@@KajiVocals oh thank you , I was planning on getting one done for my deviated septum but was worried about what the change could entail.
Or spinto soprano?
Is it seriously Arethas sister?
Yes.
Prefer her tone over rethas
Were all the Franklin sisters sopranos?
Yes! Erma had the darkest voice out of the three naturally. Almost a mezzo timbre at times. Aretha had a rather bright instrument naturally but it darkened through all the smoking etc. I don't think she ever became a true mezzo though, just a damaged soprano. Carolyn had the highest and brightest voice, with the highest tessitura. Very effortless and quite full. She can mix up 2 semitones above Aretha and does it a few times in one song. Surprisingly Erma has the worst lower range out of the three. While it sure has tone, she often disappeared as 'high' as A3 and was going sharp below G#3. I would say all of them had high-set voices with different levels of colour to it.
@@KajiVocals i really enjoy all of their voices. Why do you think the other two Franklin sisters were unable to achieve some success?
@@issakelly8071 Probably bad promotion tbh. Erma had a big hit with Piece of My Heart (that Janis Joplin covered) but was a bit of a ‘one hit wonder’ unfortunately. I’m not really sure how popular Carolyn got as I didn’t look into her charts but seeing how she had a few more albums than Erma, I’ll assume she probably was a bigger commercial success. I also think a part of them not getting more popular was Aretha’s success to an extent, and the fact that there were quite a lot of other, more popular singers singing in the same style in that period.
Dramatic mezzo?
Soprano, lacks the colour and has a higher placed voice than that of a mezzo.
Replace the mezzo with soprano. Big-voiced soprano with high-tessitura. Quite a poor lower range though.
@@KajiVocals yes. Upon hearing again was going to go with a spinto or dramatic soprano
@@scottgrunow5201 If you wanna hear a real ‘dramatic mezzo’ in pop look no further than young Della Reese’s voice. There’s a great performance of hers at the Ed Sullivan Show on TH-cam. She was a mezzo till the somewhere in the 1980s where her voice dropped to contralto. Very conservative with her use of high range though. But what she did use was good. There should be a vid on her soon.
@@KajiVocals yes! I heard her on another site. She did seem kind of contraltoish
I love a great contralto
Soprano.
Contralto? LOL
@@roerrawr1017 I died inside reading this.
It's you thinking you know what you talking about for me 💀
She's a soprano
A Contralto is a woman with a Man’s voice and U can clearly tell she has a Woman voice especially when belting above C5. Lol