Awesome talk! :) Who needs work? If its mundane, boring and to only fuel consumerism then robots can do that. Let human beings enjoy science and arts equally! One world, one big university, each one teach one, we don't need a money system or work as we do it today! :)
Valid point that a mindset of creativity, value creation, problem identification and problem solving can help companies and societies. But avoiding repetitive tasks as a way to survive against robots..I think it is a bad way to look at work. Humans operate best when they combine some repetition and some creativity. I bet the talk delivered by John Hagel has been practiced many times. It involved creativity at some point. Humans are by nature habitual creatures- habits are intertwined with passion, dedication and mastery. I am a programmer- it involves lots of repetition, but only a creative entity/ human being is able to "work" that repetition in a creative fashion. The sculptor shapes the granite in a most laborious way, but always uses his or her imagination. Machines allow humans to execute their creativity much faster- like a accountant who uses a calculator/spreadsheet to formulate a budget. But an accountant sticks to a habitual process of managing the finances. Hagel assumes that machines will never develop creative functions. I think they will.
This guy totally lost his credibility with me at about 8:30, when he said schools do their best to stifle people's credibility. This has become such a touchstone of social critics that no one seems to want to criticize it. But I'm calling BS on it. From 1957 to 1070, I went through a US public school system that AFAIK was not exceptional in any way, and I do not think I was stifled in the way that is ordinarily claimed. Scholastically, I did quite well, at the time, I did think that I might advance faster if I had been allowed to skip grades, although I now see that social experience with peers of my own age was also important. It was not necessarily that happy a time for me in many ways, but IMO it had very little to do with being stifled, or discouraged from asking questions. I think that, probably with no exceptions, my teachers would have been delighted if I were more inquisitive. I often was, and they seemed to be pleased about it. I could have gone well beyond the lessons in the courses, if I had had more awareness of how to do so. The main problems in schools IMO are the lack of support of students from peers, and the lack of awareness by parents of how best to help. Both of those were factors in my own experience.
Scarcity is the only reason that we invented money in the first place. The only scarcity that exists in the world today is being created by the monetary system itself. We have all of the technology and the resources to surpass scarcity today.
Yeah but more and more people are complacent with their lacking knowledge becouse they can just google anything ans it gives them the feelling they are smart.
What do we need more: 1000 fashion companies, 5000 makeup and "scent" businesses or 1000 teams to work on supervolcanos, 5000 companies to work on superbacteria?
This is not a future. This is a what's his name showcase. Useless jobs and irrilevant people. That is the problem that should be adressed. This person is talking about industry. No more than 10% of the workforce is employed there. In due time most of the relevant needs will be met by robots and computers. Houses, food, products transportation commerce. Public service, education, heath care, insurance and banks employ about half the working force.
In the USA 100 years ago 90% of the population were farmers .....today less than 2% are farmers ......the more efficent we become the more jobs we create
What I still don't get and hasn't really been explained to me is if Ray Kurzweil is correct and we have true human level AGI in 10yrs then they will be capable of doing all the jobs done by humans. EVERTHING. So there will be no need for any human work. Am I missing something?
1. Ray Kurzweil is wrong, it will be a long time before we have human level AGI. Deep learning with backpropagation may be a dead end for AGI, as it does not approximate anything close to thinking. 2. We already have Human Level General Intelligence, almost 8 billion intelligences running on the most complex and energy efficient supercomputers in existence - you'd think that would be enough computing power that all our problems would be solved, right? Unfortunately that is not the reality. China is quickly becoming a major player in AI, which means some of the first AI's will probably be used to surveil, monitor and control the populace to prevent political dissent. AI is just a tool, and whether it is ultimately good for humanity or not depends on how it is wielded.
Awesome talk! :) Who needs work? If its mundane, boring and to only fuel consumerism then robots can do that. Let human beings enjoy science and arts equally! One world, one big university, each one teach one, we don't need a money system or work as we do it today! :)
Bravo!
Valid point that a mindset of creativity, value creation, problem identification and problem solving can help companies and societies. But avoiding repetitive tasks as a way to survive against robots..I think it is a bad way to look at work. Humans operate best when they combine some repetition and some creativity. I bet the talk delivered by John Hagel has been practiced many times. It involved creativity at some point. Humans are by nature habitual creatures- habits are intertwined with passion, dedication and mastery. I am a programmer- it involves lots of repetition, but only a creative entity/ human being is able to "work" that repetition in a creative fashion. The sculptor shapes the granite in a most laborious way, but always uses his or her imagination. Machines allow humans to execute their creativity much faster- like a accountant who uses a calculator/spreadsheet to formulate a budget. But an accountant sticks to a habitual process of managing the finances. Hagel assumes that machines will never develop creative functions. I think they will.
loved it !
Check out the book “Bullshit Jobs”. Most work is a huge waste of life. We must transition to a Resource based economy.
This guy totally lost his credibility with me at about 8:30, when he said schools do their best to stifle people's credibility. This has become such a touchstone of social critics that no one seems to want to criticize it. But I'm calling BS on it.
From 1957 to 1070, I went through a US public school system that AFAIK was not exceptional in any way, and I do not think I was stifled in the way that is ordinarily claimed. Scholastically, I did quite well, at the time, I did think that I might advance faster if I had been allowed to skip grades, although I now see that social experience with peers of my own age was also important. It was not necessarily that happy a time for me in many ways, but IMO it had very little to do with being stifled, or discouraged from asking questions.
I think that, probably with no exceptions, my teachers would have been delighted if I were more inquisitive. I often was, and they seemed to be pleased about it. I could have gone well beyond the lessons in the courses, if I had had more awareness of how to do so.
The main problems in schools IMO are the lack of support of students from peers, and the lack of awareness by parents of how best to help. Both of those were factors in my own experience.
Scarcity is the only reason that we invented money in the first place. The only scarcity that exists in the world today is being created by the monetary system itself. We have all of the technology and the resources to surpass scarcity today.
Here is the future of work: don't be stupid and show up on time.
Yeah but more and more people are complacent with their lacking knowledge becouse they can just google anything ans it gives them the feelling they are smart.
What do we need more: 1000 fashion companies, 5000 makeup and "scent" businesses or 1000 teams to work on supervolcanos, 5000 companies to work on superbacteria?
Only philosophical man will survive the future as anything like human.
This is not a future. This is a what's his name showcase. Useless jobs and irrilevant people. That is the problem that should be adressed.
This person is talking about industry. No more than 10% of the workforce is employed there. In due time most of the relevant needs will be met by robots and computers. Houses, food, products transportation commerce.
Public service, education, heath care, insurance and banks employ about half the working force.
In the USA 100 years ago 90% of the population were farmers .....today less than 2% are farmers ......the more efficent we become the more jobs we create
everyone makes a difference? the world will be different every day
What I still don't get and hasn't really been explained to me is if Ray Kurzweil is correct and we have true human level AGI in 10yrs then they will be capable of doing all the jobs done by humans. EVERTHING. So there will be no need for any human work. Am I missing something?
1. Ray Kurzweil is wrong, it will be a long time before we have human level AGI. Deep learning with backpropagation may be a dead end for AGI, as it does not approximate anything close to thinking.
2. We already have Human Level General Intelligence, almost 8 billion intelligences running on the most complex and energy efficient supercomputers in existence - you'd think that would be enough computing power that all our problems would be solved, right?
Unfortunately that is not the reality. China is quickly becoming a major player in AI, which means some of the first AI's will probably be used to surveil, monitor and control the populace to prevent political dissent. AI is just a tool, and whether it is ultimately good for humanity or not depends on how it is wielded.