You also look like a 2A guy, so that deserves a sub all by itself! The good quality content is a bonus, been looking for strict exit velo vids and this is the one I like. Subbed
Hey, you need to do this with pitched balls going at least 60mph, I think those numbers will be way different on pitched balls. This doesn't acount for trampoline effect. Most of these bats have similar ball compression rates, it's the trampoline effect that makes them different. I think 917 and Meta will probably out shine the others on pitched balls. BESR is different because it compresses the ball differently. Great video though, keep it up.
The video is great. Not enough folks mix in the old bats with the new ones. On a budget, that's always what I'm wanting to see. And you nailed it here with the 917 because we have one, and my son loves it. Thanks.
no doubt feel is the most important. you could swing the hottest bat on the market but if you don't fell right you won't have 100% confidence in your swing. thanks for watching.
@@bigmanballsassnuts3337 Demarini and Louisville are both owned by wilson. They pretty much hold a monopoly with their only real competition being Easton and Rawlings.
Good stuff. This is exactly what I do with my son but we do it on the field when we test and we use a swing speed radar along with the pocket radar. Keep it up.
what it all comes down to in a lot of cases is with the BBCOR vs Wood you are simply paying for the size of the sweet spot maybe a 1-3 mph but in the end it is the size of the sweet spot
Hey bud, thanks for catching that. We only want to provide accurate info. I checked my data and videos we took to make sure the info was right. I found the quatro did hit 87 however that was a typo in the doc. good thing is when I ran the AVG I had the correct information for the averages. Also the meta did have a max of 88 I just missed adding the video. Also I checked the avg velocity for the meta and the data was correct also. We prefer to make determinations off of the avg exit velocity vs the highest exit velocity. as it shows us what bats fit his swing the best. thanks for the help and pointing that out. thanks for watching. NDO
@@NDOTV Hey all good stand up thing to do and reply for sure! Loved the video and would be interested to see how that Rawlings does over time. I have heard some great things on the Quattro over time and appreciate your time on this review!!!
Haha I am quite the opposite to you, I do not care much about numbers and the way I pick bats is going into a store, and that one bat that clicks, I buy. But anyways thank you for this video, that was interesting.
I looked this one up after reading your comment. I will have to get one and provide the info on it. the price point is very good and if it hits well it could be a very good deal.
My son did like both the Quatro and the Meta. Drew didn't complain of one or the other feeling different to him. Matter of fact I hit both quite a bit and I personally liked the feel and sound of the Quatro better. Drew liked them both but overall the Meta just outperformed the Quatro for him at this time. I also tested myself hitting both bats and although I like the Quatro better my exit velocity was consistently higher with the Meta. I will be selling the Quatro if your interested in it. Thanks for watching and if you have any other ideas you would like to see done let me know. Thanks NDO
NDO TV Thanks for the reply. We went again today and tried out both on the Hit Trax and the Meta outperformed the Quatro. He liked the Meta better this 2nd try after swinging it awhile so we left with it.
The thing is, the way the Quattro is designed with multiple walls gives it much much more pop off live pitching. It is unique because it beats the bbcor standard by having less pop against slower pitching or off the tee
You refer to the recommended bat as Meta Prim. When shopping for the bat it is listed as Louisville Meta and a separate bat is listed as Louisville Prime. In other they are listed as two separate bats. Please clarify. Thanks
Sorry man, the 2020 is Louisville Meta and is primarily dark blue. the 2019 version was the Meta prime and was a reddish/burgandy color. so for 2020 they dropped the prime. hopefully this clears it up for you and sorry for the confusion. Your welcome to contact me on instagram if you have any other questions.
I just posted a second video swinging the single piece voodoo and its legit and very well priced. I will have to look into the Easton's and see what they have. I know they haven't done well as of late but maybe things have changed.
My son has the same top exit velocity with his wood bat vs the composite/alloys in live pitching also. another thing to remember is some showcases my son has attended they do exit velocity off of a tee. as you can see in the testes some bats don't do well off of the tee due to the make up of the bats and inner barrels. Therefore it would be good to know what bats do best off the tee. Thanks for watching though. we enjoy the feedback. NDO
I just heard that in a few days your getting 2-300 swings on those brand new bats For the future know that bats now aren’t made to last as long as bats before because bats before were made for 1000-1500 hits and they were changed to like 600-700 before they go “dead” now because the company’s weren’t making enough money although when a bat is “dead” it still has pop just not as much
hey Phase thanks for the information. although im not 100% sold on it. I wonder if that's a marketing scheme put out by the manufactures to get people to continue to buy their products. I know my sons 917 has tons of swings on it as he has used to for bp and games for the last 3 years. I would have no doubt its will over 10k swings and he still has 92mph exit velocity with it. I will continue to monitor these test bats and see if there are any changes as we continue to hit them. thanks for watching
I had last year model Quattro pro and I had to send it back three times bc it busted on me all within a year so I finally broke down and bought the new meta
Is 2 mph worth $350? I picked up a 917 for 60 bucks. And a CF8 for $150. My kid isn't really benefitting from 10 feet. he's a gap to gap kid, right now at least. 8th grade. And knocking any bat or what folks do with their $$.
My kid used the 917 for years nothing wrong with that bat. the BBCOR standard has really restricted the bats now to be very consistent with the exit speeds of wood. Stayed tuned as we have a video coming out to show what a $100 bat does against the meta and other top bats.
you are correct. however we put about 400 swings on each bat and did not see a noticeable difference. Maybe they need more. not sure but we will continue to keep an eye on them as we use them and see if it gets better
I have believe you are correct with some composite bats like mens softball, women's fastball and years past youth bats. however the BBCOR technology does not seem to get the same results with more hits. We have well over 1000 hits on the meta and have seen no change in exit velocity. So we have to disagree with your statement. I believe the sweet spot has expanded but not exit velocity. thanks Mike
I was also under the same impression that it would get hotter as it was broke in. however now with many kids hitting with the meta I would bet it has at least 3k plus swings and his exit velocity has not changed. I would be willing to bet the sweet spot has increased though. but that's just my opinion I have no proof or accurate way of testing. thanks for the comment and watching. NDO
lol..well stay tuned Trey. I did some additional testing based on a subscribers knowledge of the Quatro. The results might surprise some of you. stay tuned
@@NDOTV Can you say if the Quatro performed better than the Meta in live hitting? I have an opportunity to pick up a Meta for less than msrp. But, if the Quatro performed significantly better, I may go that route. Thanks and great video!
If you want to talk numbers you will be amazed by the numbers the string king pro is producing for a $100 bat. Bbcor limit. Not a sales guy but I have a travel team and we tested them. stringking.com/baseball/bbcor-bats/metal-pro-bbcor/#
I understand you gotta explain things but I shouldn’t take 7 minutes to explain a few bats just say what they are and start hitting then say what you think
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First swing with BESR, 4 mph faster than every other bat, “egh about the same”😂😂😂😂 then the look in the camera 😂
lol...I tried to not laugh when he hit with it. I didn't want him knowing the speeds as we were hitting. thanks for watching
You also look like a 2A guy, so that deserves a sub all by itself! The good quality content is a bonus, been looking for strict exit velo vids and this is the one I like. Subbed
Thank y’all for taking the time to make this video. Best of luck to your son. Hopefully our boys will have a full season this year.
Hey, you need to do this with pitched balls going at least 60mph, I think those numbers will be way different on pitched balls. This doesn't acount for trampoline effect. Most of these bats have similar ball compression rates, it's the trampoline effect that makes them different. I think 917 and Meta will probably out shine the others on pitched balls. BESR is different because it compresses the ball differently. Great video though, keep it up.
stay tuned we have a new video coming out to test this theory. I think you may be correct but we will see.
The video is great. Not enough folks mix in the old bats with the new ones. On a budget, that's always what I'm wanting to see. And you nailed it here with the 917 because we have one, and my son loves it. Thanks.
Thanks, We love the budget bats that get the same results. not everyone can spend 4-500 dollars on a new bat every year.
To me it’s just how the bat feels while swinging it Louisville slugger has always felt great
no doubt feel is the most important. you could swing the hottest bat on the market but if you don't fell right you won't have 100% confidence in your swing. thanks for watching.
Jaridan Finch Louisville bats are juiced
i love bartolo colon very true but they’re not illegal yet
Jaridan Finch yeah I got myself an Omaha that things nasty
@@bigmanballsassnuts3337 Demarini and Louisville are both owned by wilson. They pretty much hold a monopoly with their only real competition being Easton and Rawlings.
Good stuff. This is exactly what I do with my son but we do it on the field when we test and we use a swing speed radar along with the pocket radar. Keep it up.
what it all comes down to in a lot of cases is with the BBCOR vs Wood you are simply paying for the size of the sweet spot maybe a 1-3 mph but in the end it is the size of the sweet spot
That BESR Voodoo is the best bat I've ever swung
We never got to swing BESR's but no doubt they are hot bats.
I was at a JuCo the year the red voodoo came out, every team had 3 or 4 of them through the country
I'd love to see you guys do a few exit veto tests with the USSSA bats, like a drop 8, drop 10 for 10-13 year olds as well! Great vid.
Great video! I like how the wood bat performed. The 917 is dead out the wrapper.
What a great video. Thanks for the upload. Good job!
thanks for watching
Thanks for doing this. That was very helpful.
Hey do you still have these bats and if would you sell the meta or quatro pro
sorry we have sold most of them
Please check out the Demarini "The Goods"
Would like to see your son swing the 2019 Quatro.
@14:10 quatro max velo was 87. Please when you report show your facts completely error free and show Quatro is no different than your choice Meta 87.
Hey bud, thanks for catching that. We only want to provide accurate info. I checked my data and videos we took to make sure the info was right. I found the quatro did hit 87 however that was a typo in the doc. good thing is when I ran the AVG I had the correct information for the averages. Also the meta did have a max of 88 I just missed adding the video. Also I checked the avg velocity for the meta and the data was correct also. We prefer to make determinations off of the avg exit velocity vs the highest exit velocity. as it shows us what bats fit his swing the best. thanks for the help and pointing that out. thanks for watching. NDO
@@NDOTV Hey all good stand up thing to do and reply for sure! Loved the video and would be interested to see how that Rawlings does over time. I have heard some great things on the Quattro over time and appreciate your time on this review!!!
Haha I am quite the opposite to you, I do not care much about numbers and the way I pick bats is going into a store, and that one bat that clicks, I buy. But anyways thank you for this video, that was interesting.
no doubt about this. doesn't matter how good the bat is if you don't have the confidence when swinging it. Comfortable and confidence is #1. thanks
Try a string king pro...going to be a hot bat this upcoming season.
I looked this one up after reading your comment. I will have to get one and provide the info on it. the price point is very good and if it hits well it could be a very good deal.
They are awesome with costumer service. Contact them and they will get you a sample to test. They sent our organization one to test.
Great job and thanks for this video. Did your son like the feel of the Quattro at all and do you still think it’s a good choice for a new BBCOR?
My son did like both the Quatro and the Meta. Drew didn't complain of one or the other feeling different to him. Matter of fact I hit both quite a bit and I personally liked the feel and sound of the Quatro better. Drew liked them both but overall the Meta just outperformed the Quatro for him at this time. I also tested myself hitting both bats and although I like the Quatro better my exit velocity was consistently higher with the Meta. I will be selling the Quatro if your interested in it. Thanks for watching and if you have any other ideas you would like to see done let me know. Thanks NDO
NDO TV Thanks for the reply. We went again today and tried out both on the Hit Trax and the Meta outperformed the Quatro. He liked the Meta better this 2nd try after swinging it awhile so we left with it.
Ball quality makes a huge difference. My bp baseballs are 12+ years old and hit 5-10mph less than new basballs.
No doubt about that. That is why we used baseballs that had not been hit.
Please make a new video considering the meta prime in 33” is now banned would the quatro be the Best Buy?
I have heard a lot of good things about the quatro but in my sons hands it did not perform as well as many of the other bats we have used.
The thing is, the way the Quattro is designed with multiple walls gives it much much more pop off live pitching. It is unique because it beats the bbcor standard by having less pop against slower pitching or off the tee
Yo Aidan, thanks for the info. I read your post and started making a video to test it out. stay tuned I will have it out shortly
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You refer to the recommended bat as Meta Prim. When shopping for the bat it is listed as Louisville Meta and a separate bat is listed as Louisville Prime. In other they are listed as two separate bats. Please clarify. Thanks
Sorry man, the 2020 is Louisville Meta and is primarily dark blue. the 2019 version was the Meta prime and was a reddish/burgandy color. so for 2020 they dropped the prime. hopefully this clears it up for you and sorry for the confusion. Your welcome to contact me on instagram if you have any other questions.
Hey love the video but I want to see some easton bats or one pieces if you make a new video this really helped me since I am looking for a new bbcor
I just posted a second video swinging the single piece voodoo and its legit and very well priced. I will have to look into the Easton's and see what they have. I know they haven't done well as of late but maybe things have changed.
Lewie's Ville bats.... huh.... never heard of this company... I'll have to check them out.
Great video
Also, I don't think going off the tee is the best way to do this as seen from the results of the wood.
My son has the same top exit velocity with his wood bat vs the composite/alloys in live pitching also. another thing to remember is some showcases my son has attended they do exit velocity off of a tee. as you can see in the testes some bats don't do well off of the tee due to the make up of the bats and inner barrels. Therefore it would be good to know what bats do best off the tee. Thanks for watching though. we enjoy the feedback. NDO
I love this video, it is very informative. Thank you!
thanks, we try to put out the info the best we can.
I just heard that in a few days your getting 2-300 swings on those brand new bats
For the future know that bats now aren’t made to last as long as bats before because bats before were made for 1000-1500 hits and they were changed to like 600-700 before they go “dead” now because the company’s weren’t making enough money although when a bat is “dead” it still has pop just not as much
hey Phase thanks for the information. although im not 100% sold on it. I wonder if that's a marketing scheme put out by the manufactures to get people to continue to buy their products. I know my sons 917 has tons of swings on it as he has used to for bp and games for the last 3 years. I would have no doubt its will over 10k swings and he still has 92mph exit velocity with it. I will continue to monitor these test bats and see if there are any changes as we continue to hit them. thanks for watching
What do think about the CAT8
Good vid
honestly, I hate the sound of them to the point we have never had one. I will see about getting one to provide some feedback on it though.
@@NDOTV I hate the sound of aluminum bats but my cat 7 will let you know when you have good contact
Amazing. Will u be doing this with more bats?
Possibly, let me know what you would be interested in. thanks NDO
I had last year model Quattro pro and I had to send it back three times bc it busted on me all within a year so I finally broke down and bought the new meta
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Are you still selling your Quattro
well initially we were however we have done some more testing that may have changed our opinion. stay tuned for another video.
The CFZen has got to be my favorite bat out of that bundle.
Justice Dillard you know that’s not a bad bat at all. For some reasons my son just never felt comfortable with it.
Is 2 mph worth $350? I picked up a 917 for 60 bucks. And a CF8 for $150. My kid isn't really benefitting from 10 feet. he's a gap to gap kid, right now at least. 8th grade. And knocking any bat or what folks do with their $$.
My kid used the 917 for years nothing wrong with that bat. the BBCOR standard has really restricted the bats now to be very consistent with the exit speeds of wood. Stayed tuned as we have a video coming out to show what a $100 bat does against the meta and other top bats.
@@NDOTV do you have slight movent in the connection piece?
i feel like he’s more comfortable with the lousville better.
he does prefer the feel of the Louisville line.
Composite bats need to be broken in
you are correct. however we put about 400 swings on each bat and did not see a noticeable difference. Maybe they need more. not sure but we will continue to keep an eye on them as we use them and see if it gets better
I thought they did a chicken bone?
Composite bats need a break in period .Your supposed to hit while rotating the bat in your hand.
I have believe you are correct with some composite bats like mens softball, women's fastball and years past youth bats. however the BBCOR technology does not seem to get the same results with more hits. We have well over 1000 hits on the meta and have seen no change in exit velocity. So we have to disagree with your statement. I believe the sweet spot has expanded but not exit velocity. thanks Mike
Not even close boys Meta kills them all. I’m surprised they haven’t banned it yet.
Michael Morrison my 33 inch meta got banned two days ago. Idk what bag I am going to get with my in store credit.
It isn’t fair to the meta prime bc the prime is composite so it’s not hot out of the wrapper and needs time to break in idk abt the quatro
I'm guessing you didn't watch the whole video.
I was also under the same impression that it would get hotter as it was broke in. however now with many kids hitting with the meta I would bet it has at least 3k plus swings and his exit velocity has not changed. I would be willing to bet the sweet spot has increased though. but that's just my opinion I have no proof or accurate way of testing. thanks for the comment and watching. NDO
thanks for watching
Do the omaha
Ot sucks that he can’t use that bat anymore
Hi
How old is your son
He just turned 16. thanks for watching
Cool thanks
Meta Prime 33 Illegal now. 😢
It is but there are options just as good for less money
Sucks that the meta got banned in 33
it does but there are many bats out there that perform just as well if not better and are less expensive.
NDO TV What are some good bbcor on a budget preferably a 2 piece composite
Did you test any $99.00 bats. I bet there is not a big difference in pop.
Yes, I will have one out in a week or so. subscribe so you don't miss it. thanks
Dudes swinging in vans and hes actully putting effort in the BESR
Ppl go check out the bat bros who actually know abt this stuff smh
Bat bros is cool but they just offer opinion of what works for them. No raw data. SMH. Troll
They need to ban all meta primes. They aren’t fair. If you pay $500 then you get an automatic advantage.
Trey Duffield Your dumb if you really think that
lol..well stay tuned Trey. I did some additional testing based on a subscribers knowledge of the Quatro. The results might surprise some of you. stay tuned
@@NDOTV Can you say if the Quatro performed better than the Meta in live hitting? I have an opportunity to pick up a Meta for less than msrp. But, if the Quatro performed significantly better, I may go that route. Thanks and great video!
If you want to talk numbers you will be amazed by the numbers the string king pro is producing for a $100 bat. Bbcor limit. Not a sales guy but I have a travel team and we tested them. stringking.com/baseball/bbcor-bats/metal-pro-bbcor/#
Too bad your meta is banned
yeah it was a great bat but my son found better results with the voodoo
I understand you gotta explain things but I shouldn’t take 7 minutes to explain a few bats just say what they are and start hitting then say what you think
Great video
thanks