Fuji X100VI vs Ricoh GR IIIx | POV Shootout
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 เม.ย. 2024
- Due to popular demand, this is a rapid fire episode comparing the Ricoh GR IIIx and the Fujifilm X100VI. The shootout involved three round of 30 minutes each in the city of Bath, a pitstop on the way to Wales (next episode). The weather turned it into a roulette, but it was interesting to see the results of each camera side by side. A 'Final Score' is shared at the end of the video.
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Gear Used:
- Fujifilm X100VI (classic chrome sim)
- Ricoh GR IIIx (negative film sim): amzn.to/48PJR6E
- Ricoh GC-12 Leather Case: amzn.to/43cbHZw
- DJI Osmo Pocket 3 + DJI Mic 2: amzn.to/3v6O2x5
- GoPro Hero 11: amzn.to/4a8bnxh
- GoPro Chesty Mount: amzn.to/3TwkW3v
- GoPro Magnetic Swivel Clip: amzn.to/3IBfPsN
- Peak Design Cuff: amzn.to/4a5Ndn8
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:28 Fujifilm X100VI: 1/3
01:27 Ricoh GR IIIx: 1/3
02:36 Fujifilm X100VI: 2/3
04:28 Ricoh GR IIIx: 2/3
05:40 Fujifilm X100VI: 3/3
07:00 Ricoh GR IIIx: 3/3
07:36 'Final Score'
Ricoh is simply amazing. I love my GRiiix
Love it as well - there's nothing quite like it (unless they release an update!)
@@po.ntandshoot when is the gr iii x replacement due ? Any guess
@@gurugamer8632no idea...I've only seen baseless rumours so far! It's been 5 years since they released the GR III.
Im patiently waiting for a GR monochrome 🗣
@@trels203 😝😝
Got lucky with that bride under the umbrella mate! And the woman taking a photo in the shop window with what looked like a 90s analogue, that's a nice moment too. Great video, subscribed :D
Yeah, but I think I could have done more with that opportunity! Thanks for the sub 🙏🏻
Cool video, nice format. Well done, mate 👏👊
Cheers Jonathan - slightly different to the usual, yeah!
Great video, I like that there wasn't a lot of talking and that you demonstrated the scenarios as you shot the photos. I try street photography when I can and I picked up a few things watching the video. Great location too.
Great mini tour. I was hanging back from starting to use mine as all the extras make it close to the XT5 and 16-80mm which has more versatility. A couple of these street type videos show why the X100VI is so good.
I've got no extras at this moment in time because of the same fear! Even the weather seal / filter kit is out of stock across the UK. Quite a bit bigger than the Ricoh, but I think it's a great size out of the box.
@@po.ntandshootso I thought through my main use and it’s trips to cities like London, Lisbon, Madrid etc. so I’ve decided to keep it. I did get the essential filter adaptor as part of the great Haoge low profile square metal kit including a cap, a Hoya circular polariser, a Fuji battery, Haoge thumb grip a screen protector, and the excellent Nisi screw in chamfered filter. All that came to £230+ and I still need a case and strap…..
The two filters and battery were the biggest cost. Probably need a mains charger too…
Great shots 😁👍..... thanks for sharing... gives me inspiration
Thanks Michael 🙏🏻
First video I've seen from you and I absolutely love your style, great shots, super cool pov, fun to watch.. instant subscriber gained 👍🏻
Cheers - means a lot!
Now i know how you get away with the shooting. The subtle chuckle when they realise what's going on. Got confronted taking photos of some bins at the back of a restaurant today. Anyway, I've had both (the GRIII and IIIx and now have the X100VI), I am still in love with the sharpness and detail of the Ricoh as well as its stealth but am enjoying the Fuji recipes and the viewfinder. Plus less worry on weather sealing since I live in rainy, windy, sandy Cornwall. It's a toss up.
Bin police? Bizarre. Interesting observation with the chuckle - you might be on to something, slipping it in as early as possible to diffuse any potential hostility!
Really great photos and a beautiful location. I think both cameras make good photos as to be seen. What impressed me most was how close persons are in your photographs. I'm to shy for this kind of photography. My favorite shot was the bride. This one would be hanging on my wall for sure. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you 👍🏻
Actually, I like to get even closer. Regarding the bride, I wish I had a bit more time / space to compose!
@@po.ntandshoot Yes, sometimes having more time is great but everybody who is doing street photography knows that this shot is great. Hope to see more great photos, so all the best to you.
Liking the video edit
Merci beaucoup monsieur fortuné
Great video and cool shots. Keep it up. . . I have a question though. . .
In terms of user experience and output, which among the two cameras do you prefer and why?
Cheers. Hitting me with the big questions!
So far, I'd edge the X100VI for both user experience and output. They are very different cameras, however...for an EDC I would say the Ricoh fits the bill best; superb quality that fits in any/most pockets. Given it's half the price as well...
Great photos and video! Just curious did you use continuous focus on the Fuji? What’s the photometry? The subject is always sharp even while you and them are in motion 👌
Thanks! I was using continuous focus for the most part, combined with wide tracking. The X100VI locks on to subjects very well. Photometry is usually set to MULTI.
Hi Mark- for the Fuji, what are your autofocus settings? I noticed you tapping on the screen - was that to autofocus? Do you have a preference for the size of the autofocus area?
Hi David. For the Fuji I mainly have it set to continuous focus, wide AF tracking, with a single point focus area. I generally have the single point in a central location and recompose the subject. I'm finding this focus point is going for walkies now and again, so I'm having to quickly track the subject using the touchscreen as the joystick is too cumbersome!
For me it’s simple. Buy both if you can and let the mood pick the tool.
Nice shots
I enjoyed, thanks.
Cheers - appreciate it!
The GR is the only camera I carry when I do not want to carry a camera. I have it with me all day long, does not weigh me down even if i wear summer shorts and a shirt, does not make me feel frustrated if I end up not taking any pic. But when I do feel inspired and shoot, the quality it provides is very substantially better than the phone I also carry and infinitely better than any camera I left at home because it is annoying, stressful, sometimes painful to carry a camera strapped across the shoulder or stored in an even heavier bag encumbering you all day long. Despite everyone's wishful thinking the X100 does not slide comfortably into any normal day-to-day pocket: you either carry it with a strap, or in a bag or feel the thing weighing down your big raincoat pocket, ready to fall out at any moment. In that sense the X100 is mostly the same as any other camera. That is something a TH-cam video cannot convey, as the youtuber himself is saddled with all sorts of additional gear (mic, gopro, etc) and has to take pictures to justify the outing. Fun video though and nice views of Bath. Thanks for that!
Key attribute; the Ricoh's size / form factor is a phenomenon.
The X100VI was actually smaller than I was expecting (only used the X-Pro and XE series to this point), and the fact it's still cold, my sturdy jacket pockets can carry it easily. Come summer, I may feel a different way -
Yes, the Ricoh is a compact camera and good alternative to a smartphone. The Fuji X100VI is like a entry level DSLM camera (e.g. Canon R50) and not as handy as a compact camera/phone.
I agree with your assessment 100%. I have shot with previous models of the X100 (not VI) and did not like the experience. I had a chance to shoot with the GRIIIX a few weeks ago. The sharpness of the lens and the image quality especially the colors just blew me away. GR is the true street camera. The downside, short battery life.
This is ace! Seriously cool to see how you walk about and get these amazing shots.
I’m brand new to photography and got vi the other day, no idea what I’m doing.
I’m off to NYC this week - when you just snap like you do, do you have the side button to C or S for focus? Do you always take a few snaps at in quick succession when you see something you like? Thanks mab
Thanks a lot. For the majority of street photography, I keep the focus mode on Continuous, combined with Wide Tracking. The focusing speed and accuracy on the X100vi is a joy to use. I mainly keep it on low burst speed, catching around 2-5 images for a moving subject.
Have a great time in New York - would love to sling my camera bag there one day.
@@po.ntandshoot amazing, thanks. So for CL low speed burst setting you have it on 3.0, when in C mode, do you have to half press to focus?
amazing, thanks. Which one did you enjoy more?
Hmmm, actually a tough one. Given it still feels novel and it's got an EVF/OVF, the X100vi!
A splendid viewing. Might I recommend visiting Belushi's upon your next visit to Bath - a treat for photographers and gourmands alike
They were advertising bottomless wings, £12 on a Wednesday per person. I assume you live nearby.
@@po.ntandshoot unfortunately not, couldn't be any further from local. Fond memories remain 🥲
Nice comparison. Both are fine cameras, but gotta give some extra love to the Fuji. 😄
Thanks Andre. Hard not to love anything Fuji -
Nice video. Great photos. Thanks.
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who else is watching with their orders either being backorder/preordered? lol goshhhh can't wait for my fuji x100vi!
Yikes - hope it arrives soon!
Ordered mine on the 8th march from jessops. Still waiting.
I ordered March 1st.. I am second guessing things dammit
@@Boyson66 Jessops delivered mine - are they providing any estimates?
@@Regzillaaa frustrating...what camera are you using currently?
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Been struggling between these two for my UK trip this summer. Looking for a handy one and will decide to go for Ricoh now - probably will wait for fujifilm X-E5 instead.
Not a bad struggle to have! Which parts of the UK are you visiting? An X-E5 announcement really would put the cat amongst the pigeons... I'd be very, very tempted.
@@po.ntandshoot This will be my first time stepping in UK for 2 weeks, to visit my family in Derby. Planing to tour around London, Brighton, and hope to visit Edinburg if enough time!
@@towerstephk that is great geographical and cultural spread 👍🏻
love these kind of videos. Are these shots sooc. If so what simulation did you use?
Ah just so the ending with 50 edited shots. Guessing they’re not sooc then?
@@leoeckert1050 these were edited, yes. But they are just minor tweaks in lightroom of Classic Chrome (Fuji) and Negative Film (Ricoh) simulations.
Nice Pic!!! When I look at your picture, I am also in London I want to go to it!
Nice, for how long? Trains to Bath are pretty quick and regular from London Paddington!
What is the most important thing in a fixed lens camera? The lens I have shot with the Fujifilm x100 and x100v, Ricoh GR3 series and Leica Q. I do find that the Leica Q Series has by far the best lens, followed by the Ricoh GR3 series. Handsdown I would advise anybody to wait for the XE5/XT50 and pair it with the 27mm II :)
I loved the X-E3 when I was travelling pre-covid - I didn't notice a huge difference when I upgraded to the X-Pro3. X-E5 will surely only come out once the X100VI orders are fulfilled, given they sit in the same space.
It's only a matter of time before I test a Q and proceed to fall in love with it...
"What is the most important thing in a fixed lens camera?"
Compactness, weight...so not the Q.
Depends on the users requirements, doesn't it!
Weather and dust-sealing. That is the most important thing in a fixed lens camera. Apparently, Ricoh does not agree.
@@GlindaQuadlinghater comment. Most who shot film never had weather sealing. Few people report dust issues with ricoh, some do. But it feels so overblown. I see videos of guys shooting with it for years with no issues. My Nikon p900 has no weather sealing and never had dust issues. I'd rather have a camera that gives a high quality image, sadly the x100 series is a disappointment on that front imo
Paul I totally agree. The XF 27mm is amazing and paired with a cheaper Fuji body... Amazing.
What aperture do you normally use when you're shooting like this? I have the V
I'm generally between f/4 - 5.6. In good light I step down to f/8 if I'm stationary and I've composed the shot. For single subjects, I'll treat myself to f/2 now and again.
Basically leave it on Auto for aperture, Auto for Shutter and Auto for ISO. Fujifilm is good, it knows what to do.
Nice comparison! Your shots were superb. I personally think the IQ and colours look far superior on the Fuji : ) I've been hoping to see somebody do a Contax G2 vs Fuji X100VI so if you ever manage to rent one for a day etc that would be cool
Thanks. I'll actually be in Japan next month and will be looking to pick up (another) compact film camera on the day I arrive...G2 out of my budget unless there is a freakish deal to be had! I'll make a video of whichever camera I buy either way.
@@po.ntandshoot looking forward to that! And also intensely jealous haha
Awesome & Thanks :)
The same to you.
Hey man! Are the pictures straight out of the cam, even from the Ricoh ?
Hi! For both cameras, I used their in-camera presets in Lightroom as a base (classic chrome for Fuji, negative film for Ricoh), and then made some minor tweaks to contrast and exposure. I did a SOOC POV walk in the last episode FYI.
I noticed the Ricoh shots have “soul”.
insane portrait of the lady squinting into her camera’s viewfinder
My compliments, you are an excellent photographer .both are very good for street photos, a preference for the Ricoh, more discreet than the Fuji, but it's not the camera that takes photos, it's the photographer. If you are a bad photographer you always take bad photos, and if you are a good photographer with any camera you take good photos.
Whilst eating disorders don’t discriminate, this video really helps me discriminate between the two cameras. Ricoh ftw!!
It held its own, most definitely, despite being the size of a wallet with too many loyalty cards in.
thanks for sharing :) like Ricoh no less than x100xi (maybe just too popular for now.. still yet to see more actuall experience..)
Cheers! Working on some more X100VI real world use POVs currently ~
Can you do a review of sony rx100 m7, if you have got one.😅. That's one very capable camera too
Genuinely been trying to source one for my wife for our Japan trip. If we can't find a good price for the VI or VII we will try and find a bargain one in Tokyo...bit risky
Is the lens more shaper higher quality on the GR III X
Early opinion, but I think the Ricoh resolves detail better. Both high quality of course.
@@po.ntandshoot I had the x100vi returned it. Lens was not great.
@@gurugamer8632they really should have developed a new lens for this camera. They took the cheap route though to release the camera as soon as possible
@@PantalonesFrescos I’m happy with my M11 and A7RV… The images from Ricoh GR III X are lot better than X100VI. Maybe better lens.
@@PantalonesFrescos it’s a shit camera poor mans Leica really hyped
did you do any editing to these photos? they're looking very similar to me.. hard to make a call.
I did yes, but I used my favourite presents from each of the cameras (Classic Chrome for Fuji, Negative Film for Ricoh) which are a similar style.
really?? it was night and day for me.....did not like the ricoh colours
I prefer the results from Ricoh grIIIx 😊❤
I'm on the fence still!
I canceled my x100vi pre order and got a Ricoh GRiiix
Bold!
lol. I have both cameras. The only advantage Ricoh has is the size.
@@harshyknuckles1824 and a way better lens
@@harshyknuckles1824 and price
@@harshyknuckles1824most owners say that ricoh has a sharper lens and that its images have more details, despite it providing a smaller resolution photos in terms of the pixel count. What is your opinion on that ?
Is it just me or does it seem that the highlights are blown out on the Ricoh, or is it a delibrate choice :0)
have you noticed weather the pictures is sharper on the Ricoh than the Fuji, Samuel Streetlife took som pictures and discovreed that Richos files were sharper that the fuji x1006 when cropped in.
nice video
Deliberate on my part - maybe a touch too far on some of them. The muted / desaturated tones of the Negative Film simulation (my favourite) plays a part as well. Regarding the sharpness, I would agree when comparing at 100%. Fuji slightly underwhelming when cropping in heavily. Thanks for watching!
Ricoh forever. The Fujis have a lot of marketing behind them.
Ricoh forever taking their time to update the GR line! Imagine if they manage to weather seal the next model...
You’re taking photos at the same distances due to habit I assume but the crop on the GR makes it tidier with subjects pronounced
True, I'm forever in the 35mm mindset when setting up a shot. That extra 5mm on the GR IIIx does make a difference.
Love this comparison. Is it just me, or did the Ricoh images seem a little washed out or over exposed? I’ll watch again.
Thanks for watching. Yes, I used the simulations / presets that I would usually use for each camera; Classic Chrome for the Fuji and Negative Film for the Ricoh. The Ricoh simulation is definitely more muted / desaturated.
i find the same
I watch one channel and he find out a shocking difference that the ricoh 24mp is sharper than the fujifilm x100vi when he zoomed it. Can u confirm that? Thanks..
I can confirm that it was my initial reaction. Even still, the cropability is very good / better than the Ricoh.
5:25 that guy is a true photographer - see how fast he had that camera up and turned on??
unreal speed - no chance against him in an actual shootout
On what did you record walking videos?
Hi - a GoPro Hero 11 with either a chest mount or a backpack swivel clip.
@@po.ntandshoot Hi! Thank you 😊 Your video looks AMAZING 😍
ive been shooting with both cameras. The Ricoh's form factor and file quality is unmatched. The autofocus is sluggish, it takes a learning curve to get used to snap focusing. The fuji is overall a more enjoyable shooting experience to me. The Camera feels better in hand, I enjoy the physical knobs, the autofocus is much snappier than the Ricoh. If I had to pick one, id go with the Ricoh myself due to the size.
Perfectly put - this is exactly how I'd summarise the two. I wish Ricoh would tease us with the GR IV, but all they've done is release another yet shiny version of the III last night. I can only really trust it in snap focus mode.
The Ricoh can make photos as good as the Fuji, if not better because of its stunninly sharp lens, all that for almost half the price ! I have a Fuji X-T5 which has the same sensor as the X100VI, and the Ricoh beats it for image quality.
For image quality, I'm swaying towards the Ricoh indeed.
Hands down, GRIIIX is the winner for me. One of the criticisms of the GR is the lack of a viewfinder. I find it ironic that Fuji shooters, and I know a few of them, hardly ever use the viewfinder. I find them looking through the back screen almost all the time. So there goes the argument for the one that has the viewfinder. GR is a funky camera to shoot with but once you get to know your way around the interface, the quality that it gives you runs with the best cameras and lenses out there. The two surprises for me were the colors of the GR and how sharp the lens was. I shot almost exclusively at f2.8 and the images are as good as some of my lenses that cost 2-3X as much as the GRIIIX camera !!!
Colour and sharpness is superb indeed. The battery and focus accuracy need improving, but for the size of the camera it can be forgiven -
@@po.ntandshoot I agree totally.
@@po.ntandshoot I agree with all your points. Focus accuracy, as you mentioned was a sore point too. I found myself trying to anticipate the action... "the decisive moment" if you will before I pressed the shutter button. It reminded me of my film days when we were deliberate and did not spray and pray! I think they just updated the firmware and offer some improved focusing capabilities. The GR is a very sophisticated machine. One needs to study and learn its capabilities to get the max out of the camera. I only had it for a few hours. So, there was not enough time to learn all the ins and outs of the camera.
please, next model Ricoh, with FLASH! ;D
Seems like we will have to wait some time!
I actually would love to have the Fuji x100vi but I already got the Ricoh gr III.
Haven't tried the GR III, no doubt it's superb.
I prefer GRIIIX for daily use and X100V on a serious trip.
I can relate with this.
5:25 that was a funny moment
the actual shootout - !
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I think I'd rather the GR
Pockets and wallets support this.
Too bad the Ricoh doesn't have a built-in flash. That would be perfect for parties of this size.
Thanks for the reminder - I want to test the X100VI's built-in flash.
I bought a flash from Reflx Labs and it's SO tiny and crazy powerful!!
@@Datsunn ooooo - good shout, I might look into it.
Mark, why do you do this hands move going upfront then back to follow the subject? th-cam.com/video/aNLYj4mS8YU/w-d-xo.html
I'd appreciate if you could explain in detail.
That movement was just to check where I would eventually end up framing the shot, as I had a couple of seconds before the subject would enter. I also use this moment to check the continuous AF is tracking correctly.
@@po.ntandshoot Thanks a lot.
Fuji quality is top notch, shame on the price tho
Yeah, big price tag for such a small camera. Powerful piece of kit though.
@@po.ntandshoot compared to a mid to pro level Canon R it’s a bargain. Think my 24-105 F4 L costs the same as the Fuji and the lens possibly weighs as much.
The best camera for a given situation is the key. I shoot from Fuji 6x9 film, Canon pro DSLR down to the small EOS M5. For travel and city work a small camera is great. My little Minox 35GT and Fuji DL mini did sterling service for the 1980s. I recently scanned some negatives of my 43 yr old son taken when he was 5 on the Minox. We were blown away by the quality and colour - guess what, most were shot on Fuji film. Kodak Gold also came out well.
As a fall back, an iPhone 13 Pro in RAW still gives ok images but not the same.
LOL 5:24 it's like the are on a duel
Not sure if it's your edit or it's the simulation from respective camera, but Ricoh's images look more washed out and desaturated.
Good spot. It is indeed down to my preferred simulation for each camera; Classic Chrome for Fuji and Negative Film for Ricoh. Both on the desaturated / colder side, but Negative Film definitely pushes this further.
Personally think your more of a 35mm kinda eye than a 40mm. ;)
35 💜
Dropped my GRIII while the barrel was extended, it just shattered. They say it will have to go to Japan for repairs and the costs are probably not worth it. Dropped my Canon 7D II and pancake lens on to cement from a higher height. Not even a scratch. I changed over to the Fuji X100v and Ricoh GR iii from the Canon 5DMiv and 7D II because of all the hype. I won't get caught again!
I agree, the GR is too delicate for an everyday / street photography camera. Sometimes I worry that it's even too tight in my pocket!
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What kind of test is this? Good job explaining the methodology and getting it validated that the metrics actually capture information that matters. 😒
Most of your photos are over exposured, and your video clip is muc better, suggest to down one or two scale either shutter speed or f value.
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You can get pictures like these, or even better, with any apsc cameras half their price. Nikon z30 or Sony zve10 with viltrox 27mm f1.2 or Sigma 23mm f1.4 will perform much better than these two.
Yes, but the issue is size. You cannot carry around a Viltrox 27/1.2 in any pocketable manner. End of the day your best camera is the one you take with you and the form factor ot those two lens choices will mean they are left more often at home than these fixed lens cameras. Personally I prefer more shallow depth of field, but trying to keep it small is difficult. Maybe a Nikon ZF with a 40/2 might do it, because it is full frame. But it's still not really pocketable.
I agree - most cameras could compete. It's a whole lot of fun to have pocketable cameras, however, literally keeping one or both on you at all times without a bag (ricoh in jeans pocket, fuji in jacket pocket).
I generally shoot at around f/4-5.6, so there aren't many examples in this video of how it resolves bokeh etc. I should explore that more.
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