Election results: what will Starmer really do with landslide win?
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- The Conservatives have suffered their worst ever defeat as Keir Starmer has been swept to power in a landslide victory - but huge challenges are waiting in the new prime minister's intray, and while he has a massive majority now in Westminster, his support across the country is on shakier grounds.
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Some of Labour’s big names, who thought they’d be helping to form a new government, are out - beaten by pro-Gazan independents and Greens.
And now Nigel Farage says that, after decimating the Conservative vote and plunging the party into chaos, he has his eyes on Labour.
So what does this all mean, and what next for British politics?
In this election special edition of The Political Fourcast Krishnan Guru-Murthy was joined by former chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng, Labour’s Bell Ribeiro-Addy and psephologist Luke Tryl.
Produced by Shaheen Sattar, Calum Fraser, Silvia Maresca, Rob Thomson, Nick Jackson.
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Sorry Kwasi, but your opinion means nothing to me after your Tufton Street budget crash.
but didn't you hear? the woke global financial system conspired to be spooked by the Truss budget 🤣
You obviously have no idea what actually happened. Let me ask this…. How many times have you heard foreign leaders comment on another country’s internal tax policies?? It happened then. That was what alerted me, plus the fact that Sunak was the establishment choice not Truss.
@@mogznwaz why would I be alarmed that, because our economy is such a key cog in the global economy, and therefore it hurts other countries' economies when it performs poorly, other countries would take a keen interest?
@@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957Because it is fundamentally undemocratic for Canadians to choose a British PM..
@@aclark903 which isn't what happened, or anything even approaching it
Kwarteng helped pull a banker's heist with Tufton st. It's a disgrace that he's invited to speak, and his comments are worthless.
100% agree. He is an economic terrorist and his mini budget cost the UK £30BN. What are Channel Four thinking?
Don't worry, Suella Braverman survive the purge. She rich, lazy, and corrupt what more do you want? She will lead the Tories to a new "Golden Age".
You're right, 51 seconds in and I'm stopping watching. We shouldn't be platforming people who've ruined peoples lives (he's genuinely harmed thousands of people)
Kwasi didn't crash the economy, it was the Bank of England who dumped a trunc of gilts onto the market just as he made his announcement !
Why, because Kwasi was proposing a proper Conservative budget that would have invigorated the British economy. This is not what the B of E wanted, they were more concerned in doing the bidding of their globalist masters at the WEF.
The hedge fund bankers labelled Chancellor Kwasi Kwateng as a useful idiot at the morning champagne breakfast before their hedge funds started to short the GBP and making profits at the expense of the British public.
😂😂😂😂😂 I can't hear them over the guy shouting "Jesus is coming repent"
Someone should ask him, “Are you Catholic, Anglican, or some low-churches?”
it is look like they are talking about the train which has left the a station 10 hours ago.
@@davidpeterson5647 #Jesus is coming though. Maybe before the next general election!
Krishnan is by far the most coherent and hardest working political journalist
It's spelt "disgusting propagandist"
Why do News outlets give Kwasi Kwarteng air time? Like he is some sort of expert!
I mean, I am not exactly a fan, and very upset about his budget that screwed us all, but he obviously is intelligent and does seem to have some interesting insights.
How is he obviously intelligent? Because he's plummy and throws in some big words?
@@meme4onehe went to Cambridge, you wouldn’t do better than him
@@jrr3613 Boris went to Eton and Oxford. It doesn't make you a genius.
@@jrr3613 Going to Cambridge does not make you honest and trustworthy so they may do better.
Starmer has absolutely no need to talk about Farage whatsoever- He's got more important things to think about, than Farage.
Talking about Farage is like one PL manager complaining about another manager- he is not in the Labour Party- so why worry about him.
Farage is dangerous! Reform vote killed the Conservative. Nigel is all about the spot light...
Let's revisit this in 5 years lol
😂😂😂
Correct.
@@BinnyBongBaron_AoE🤫 never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake 😉
One of the biggest issues with UK London bubble politics is that we get on “experts” like Kamikwaze and ask them questions as if they hadn’t already proven themselves totally unsuitable and incompetent at the business of government.
Failing ever upward, public schoolboy style.
Kwasi Kwarteng is not an expert on economics. He is a total shill for 80 year old billionaires donors to the Tory party. Mr. Kwarteng's "tax cuts" was designed to make them rich. Dr. Kwasi Kwarteng is very educated but in classics and history with a PhD in Political history not economics.
It's like asking a civil engineer who's surrounded by the rubble of a building he built and has totally collapsed, for his opinion on constructing a new one, but he's posh so must be intelligent and well meaning.
Corbyn failed at becoming PM but I’m still interested in what he has to say. Failure is no reason to dismiss someone’s experience.
@@antonydavis2764 these guys didn't fail, they were dreadful, greedy and self servicing. Very different.
@@meme4one not really. They failed and you’ve just described some of the aspects of the failure.
The nasty party lost and they think the answer is merge with a nastier party..
Comment lacks originality!
Because Capital still wins with Fascists. It's Socialists it's always afraid of.
@@user-vo7io1rz1r Nasty Comment ...
@@user-vo7io1rz1r Reply not an improvement.
Nahtzee Partee
British electorate 5 years behind the French .
In what way
Clearly in the way we will have some more right wingers coming in, in 5 years.
IYKYK all we can do for now is sit back and watch the show 🍿
"ATTITUDES? They were BEING racist homophones and sexist" 😂😂😂
19:00 - I gotta say, I think this vote splitting thing should be looked at in a different way. The Conservatives only had their vote split by Reform, whilst Labour has both the Lib Dems and the Greens (and has had so for years).
Many years - decades, in fact. Blair offered the Libs a long-term deal in 1997, but, according to Alastair Campbell, too many egos got in the way.
You could also argue that if the tories had done a good job, reform wouldn't even be on the cards.
@@meme4one Honestly, I think it was probably inevitable that that crocodile Farage would poke his head out of the swamp at some point, good job or not.
Yes but hd the tories not been total shite they probably wouldn't have had their vote split as aggressively@@TheQuestionTheAnswer
In the 2015 general election, under Nigel Farage’s leadership, UKIP secured a total of 3,881,099 votes. Nearly a decade later, in the most recent election, Nigel Farage's Reform GB garnered 4,072,947 votes, showing an increase of less than 20,000 votes over this period.
Specifically, in Clacton during the 2015 election, UKIP, with Douglas Carswell as the candidate, received 19,442 votes. Despite the added prominence of Nigel Farage, the vote count only increased by approximately 1,600 votes in subsequent elections.
This data suggests that the political fringe represented by these parties has experienced minimal growth in voter support over nearly ten years.
Man I really needed to hear that.
4 weeks to campaign from reform give it time within the next 5 years there support will grow these stats you pulled out means nothing you voted for a Tory party clone just a different name number will fall for labour
@@lesliescottw Scandal after scandal, and Farage's fake patriotism will eventually wear thin. Watch Nige fail to attend PMQs and critial voting days, just like he did in the European parliament
@@lesliescottwreform have had 6 months. We all knew there was going to be an election this year because tories 5 years was up soon. Using the excuse that reform only had 4 weeks when everyone else had 6 weeks is nothing but excuses, just like everything else that Farage finds excuses for.
Reform nearly got half as many votes as Labour with no money and a leader that took over 4 weeks ago let the sink in. If it was PR voting system Farage and Reform would have 100+seats.
Replacing rishi with starmer is like being in a children’s hospital in the 70s and being told the jimmy saville visit has been cancelled only to here the didgeridoo coming down the corridor
Maybe Thatcher should have done something about it, instead of making him her best mate
😂😂😂Brilliant ! And very apt!
I think that analogy says more about you than anything
Eh?
i like this labour lady she talks her mind alot more than most of the labour cabinet
I really wish they would get rid of those bellends who stand outside parliament and Downing Street shouting into the wind. So annoying.
Give it a few years and they’ll be happy to oblige. Off to the gulag.
They should get a wind machine and ramp it up.
Is Kwasi Kwarteng high on Gak again?
He just brought Ghanian economics to the UK; how to crash a currency.
I hope the speaker of the house won't let Farage repeat his behaviour in the Eoropean Parliament.
Politician seem just as disappointed in the public just as much as the public is in them.
Labour only got 34% of the vote and 64% of seats in parliament. Broken Britain. Broken democracy. Reform this electoral system which leaves millions without representation. Labour has no popular mandate on these results - the country didn't choose them.
The system is democratic. It is unfair yes. Unfair and undemocratic are different things. Everyone knows this system is benefial to larger parties. But simply getting pr will not make the county more democratic. We need a system that delivers stable government and an element of pr. Reform are acting like this is the first time this has ever happend. The lib dems have been shafted by it in the past. If labour want they could change the system to have some pr which best benefits them
Totally agree with FPTP , it's way past it's sell by date. But Labour played according to the current rules.
The first thing Starmer did to not take on farage was move his black candidate into the midlands from clacton due to him "getting more attention than starmer and was a threat to the campaign"
You mean, someone who was really liked and could have defeated far right fascism right there and then.. At least in clacton was a price worth paying by not doing so?
Jon Voight's reverse smile in Anaconda.
I could not watch this video the man shouting in the background was so off putting
It wasn't long till he stopped.
Reform 4 Seats!! 😂😂😂 BAHAHAHA!!!
Looks like alot of Reform Hype bots gonna lose their jobs.
you really have no clue have you hahahahahahahahahahaha
They did get quite a few more votes than expected.
Reform 2029 🎉
You will lose your job too.
So much coping.. delicious 😋
Channel 4 is not an authority, just people with microphones and camera's.
Optimism and skepticism😅
Krishnan saying here that if we had PR we would be in coalition talks and that people wouldn't want that and others agreeing, but if that was the case it would just be reflective of what people voted for. We're just not used to the idea of coalitions and working cross party but we have to accept that Labour have won a gargantuan majority FROM LESS THAN 34% of the vote - that is surely not right and representative of the views of the electorate.
I’m not a Tory but I do have respect for Kwasi
It's important for the public to increase their understanding of the workings of Parliament and to critically evaluate information from various sources, rather than relying solely on mainstream media which can be misleading/untrue. Reform UK is a prime example as Nigel Farage is always on our screens - what about the others parties including the devolved nations.
Channel 4 scraping the bottom of the barrel with Kwasi Kwateng, could C4 not have found a better speaker like Dominic Grieve?
Kwarteng was absolutely correct about Farage. There are people who want a performer. I can disagree with him but his point there is right on.
It sounds so weird to someone from the "outside" hearing them trash on coalitions as being chaotic. British politics themselves have a great capacity for chaos, as the last couple of PMs have proven thoroughly. And where I come from, we have proportional representation and coalitions are the standard, but they tend to work quite well, and this setup furthers debate and negotiation, which makes it so more people feel heard (which can also help dampen the feeling of needing a protest vote like Reform). If only you guys would be a bit more open minded when looking at potential alternatives to the current UK setup
Extra time? You better hit the ground running or ya'll be out of office...
Well I think it’s quite fair considering you gave the Tories 14 years.
Polling drives voting is spot on
wait until you here from the tuv
3 Black commentators ??
Good old England
Lost country and culture
2 ex MP's talking about politics. What's the colour of their skin got to do with anything?
Everything!
Why do BBC INSIST on acting as if Proportional Representation is the *only* alternative to First Past the Post? I get why the *parties* would like us to believe that, but COME ON, BBC! Banging on about PR is just convincing people there's nothing better than FPTP when FPTP is awwwful. (Imo Single Transferable Vote would be PERFECT for this country.)
Are these all real people or is it acting? I don’t know if channel four news it a sort of fictional show now. Don’t get me wrong i like it but not sure if it’s real
A day off from Etonians with delusions of competence would be nice, under the circumstances.
There are no shortage of privately educated people in Labour
@@CteabisEr, no. (From that radical left wing organ The Telegraph)
Almost two thirds (63 per cent) of the 650 MPs who now make up the House of Commons are thought to have gone to a comprehensive school, with three quarters of Labour MPs (73 per cent) going to a state school, according to the Sutton Trust.
@@mikeydread62 yeah 27% qualifies as no shortage
@@Cteabis It’s the lowest proportion of private school representation since 1945. Is there some alternative Britain you’re comparing the new government to?
😂😂😂
We are doomed, down the toilet we go.
We're already way down the sewer? Where have you been for fourteen years??
@@ciararespect4296no one is denying that. Merely noting that this lot could be the final nail.
Loads of Labour voters in the South East and South West voted Lib Dem to get the tories out it worked they got 72 seats
Polls show support but voters now use tactical voting to get the result they want
I'm asking for your prayers and support. Please send healing vibes my way.
Who is giving advice now, some who have privatized everything, to make profits even the air we breathe... They don't have to do much, just educate the young and make sure that working parents can afford a roof over their heads , and they will never reach the food bank after 8 hours of work to feed their CHILDREN😢😢😢
I would leave the country but as Reform are doing well, there is hope .
Also will be interesting to watch Starmer and his team how they will cope with All challenges.
You don't understand the Tories, Greens, Reform, the Lib Dems are not going be able to deal with the next crisis. These parties are hopeless. When the "Energy Crisis" hit you Nigel Farage hasn't got a clue on how to deal with such things.
I think it would be hilarious to hear how you think Reform would cope with All challenges. Let me guess, tax cuts for the rich?
He’s a centrist so… he will do nothing.
Kwarteng and Channel 4 are two members of the same WhatsApp group that could be brilliant but chose to be as hollow as each other. Channel 4 specifically is an absolute disgrace.
the leftover tories are already starting their new grift
Labor will screw it up
Out go the tories, in comes genocide keith.. cosmic..
Gaza is a Middle East issue.
Let the Middle East deal with it.
You can't because if the go crazy your fuel prices will go through the roof. Think Rodney! Geez, people say the understand "Globalization" but you really don't.
Stop meddling in the middle East then... there would be no mess.
Yes let's stop arms sales to Israel and other practical support then we can really say that.
Just leave reform alone to eat themselves.
They will vote split with the tories.
You should be going after lib dem votes
KWASI SHOULD BE BANISHED!
I think best thing is get country running well and sort out migration issue in a professional manner then Farage will evaporate
He'll keep supporting Jen O Side in Gaza.
Does Kwateng know he was the most disastrous Chancellor of all time. The man os a complete failure politically, and an absolute liability. Why are C4 putting him on the telly?
Dr. Kwanteng degree is not in economics it in political science. He is a "bag man", his "tax cuts" was design to pay off Billionaire Tory donors.
Biased no doubt wouldnt bother watching
The the Tories made Nigel what he is now, and Labour has to take him on. That is the BS to be expected from a 5 minute chancellor. I think the Tories have to take on Nigel unless they want to be gobbled up by Nigel.
4.1 million votes for Reform UK after a 4 week campaign is spectacular !
They had more money than the Tories, years of all parties trumpeting their campaign messages and constantly media coverage of their campaign.
The only thing spectacular about it, is the "apparent" surprise of the Liberal Establishment, which they're not a threat too, unlike Greens who'll change the economics to work for people, not corporations.
They just took conservatives voters. Nothing too impressive
With the amount of money he poured into the election, i'm frankly shocked he didn't get more seats, talk about value for money!
@@TheLukeLambert Who funded that anyway?
Thats is no surprise. They are a new party dont have local teams that know the area and how to win local constiuencies. Reform tried to run a national campaign which doesnt work for small parties. The lib dems are evidence of that
Kwarteng the expert failure
Hopefully the first thing our new Government does is to get some tugs and a film crew, then Tow the Bibi Stockholm from our Great Country because we are not all Racists
I votes the tories out. Next I'll vote reform...
Does that means more immigrants and refugees for the UK?
who says that the country "wouldn't want" there to currently be coalition talks? it works perfectly well in most other democracies the world-over
it's certainly better than seat proportions which don't even remotely map onto the popular vote, and it leads to more pragmatic and consensus-based governance
The last time we had a coalition it didn't go so well, but that wasn't the same same sort of coalition that PR would be.