The Tragic Case of the Perfume Heiress | Dorothy Arnold
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- Welcome to Forgotten Lives! In today's episode we are looking into we are looking into the life of Dorothy Arnold an American socialite and heiress who disappeared under mysterious circumstances in New York City in December 1910.
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Merry Christmas Brief Case! 🎄🕊️ All the best for the New Year 🎊
I am always on your channel listening to you, leaving my Likes and listening to the ads also. I just don't leave more comments, there was bullying with me, then i had to delete my comment to you. I cannot stand the bullying. Thank you for being here. Thank you FLives
love the surprise collab
😂 I am happy it is another soothing voice thank goodness
agreed. however, i knew it was Brief Case. he has a great channel also!@@danysanerd2383
I had to double check which of my subscriptions I had clicked on. Wonderful collaboration, thanks for all your work!
Not for nothing but her family didn't report as missing for six weeks.
That stinks on ice.
It is hard to tell what happened to her but you have to wonder if someone in the family has something to do with her disappearence.
I can't quite believe she could have committed suicide in such a way that her body was never found!
Very sad. Poor Dorothy. May she rest in peace
How terribly sad.. the fact that her parents waited 6 weeks to report her missing- simply because of pride, is awful... I've no doubt she didn't run away, she had no money, no clothes etc... probably abducted- possibly by a sex pervert, or for ransom money- but was killed... Did her family even scour the park? Just so sad.. 😮😢
Ah yes that official demographic, “sex perverts”
It's amazing and scary how someone so noticeably dressed can just disappear without a trace.
Scary 😮
People easily disappear in Central Park even today. Back then it would probably be much easier to disappear in the park.
Truly a sad case.. my hope is that she found a way of life that made her content.. and that she was neither killed nor took her own life.. if her family had only supported her.. this story may not have been needed..
Btw.. much appreciated BC doing this.. he is a master narrator.. the main reason I watched.. his voice is mesmerizing and beautiful :)
Thank you🌹
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It is, isn't it?
She had a week long fling at a motel, which in those days was off the charts. Explains the family's hesitancy, as this could have been the case again. The private detective they hired waited until after the parents' death to say he believed she had committed suicide.
Where did you get that information because they don't say that in this video.
@@jacquelinezr Research and reading.
The "week in a motel" story is included in her Wikipedia entry. I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned in this video as it appears to rely heavily on Wikipedia.
When this video started and they said she was going to walk through Central Park, I thought, "Chandra Levy." She was the intern attacked and killed in a Washington Park while jogging in 2001. I think Dorothy was probably attacked in Central Park and killed like Chandra was so many years later. I don't think Dorothy would have stopped off for a quicky termination while shopping and I don't think she would have gone shopping if her goal that day was to kill herself.
But where is her body? after all this time you think someone would have found the remains by now if she was murdered in the park.
She could be in one of the lakes or the reservoir. @@janetpendlebury6808
@@janetpendlebury6808even if she were murdered in the park that doesn’t mean her body was abandoned there
I live in Northern Virginia and am familiar with the Chandra Levy case. But women should be able to walk alone with out fearing for their safety, it extremely sad
That is exactly who I thought of as well. Levy was killed when I lived in Washington so I immediately thought of the similarities wiht this case.
How sad when such a young person vanishes without a trace! :((
This was a very intriguing case of a wealthy young woman who mysteriously vanished and yet her family didn't report her disappearance until several weeks later. If it wasn't unusual for Dorothy to not contact her family if she was going to be late arriving at the family home, then why did they wait so late to finally contact the police? I enjoyed hearing your guest host Briefcase Case narrate this video. Great case wish it would have been solved. Have a fantastic new year 2024!
Probably she was kidnapped. They paid the ransom or some . She wasn’t returned or they killed her.
2024- Happy Year to be Indeed!
It’s like you didn’t even watch the video
I remember reading that they didn’t report her missing right away because back then it would have been a scandal . They didn’t want their name in the press and have everyone looking for her , only to be found to have snuck away with a lover ..
An unmarried ‘spinster’ (25 was ‘old’ back in the day for that social class)that suddenly fell off the face of the earth, was very suspicious. It would give room for gossip and scandal, destroying every chance she had on a ‘good’ marriage if she later resurfaced. And not only her chances, that of her sisters too. This was in the age where even the less wealthy would keep a married couple separated for two or three months after the wedding out of fear for a premature birth (and thus rumors of already pregnant when married). It would ruin all the girls in the family.
Why would she go shopping if she wanted to take her own life..somebody followed her in the Park, robbed and killed her.
Seems most likely.
Merry Christmas FL!!! Thanks for this amazing collaboration with BriefCase and hope you enjoy your holidays!!! 🎉🎉
Yesss!
So funny how back in the day you could be the daughter of a wealthy gilded age high society person and couldn't get published in magazines or publishing houses for your work. That would never happen now. Nepo babies just need to put their name down and have their father make a few phone calls and they'd be published in a second today.
My mother's name was Dorothy Arnold,so this is most interesting to me.Our line goes back to England
My two favourite channels collaborating this must be Christmas… Thank you for the initiative taken. Happy New Year all.
Great initiative! 😀
I find it unbelievably shocking that her mother and father waited fot a month and a half before reporrting her missing. I think she possibly met someone in Central Park, went somewhere with him, perhaps thinking she was going to view an apartment, but he had brought her to some private room, S.A.d and murdered her. The reason I think that is because she had dressed very carefully as if for an interview and did not let her mother accompany her. She didn't commit suicide, suicides cannot hide their own bodies. The fact that her parents waited 6 weeks before reporting her gave her attacker a full six weeks to dispose of her body. Sad case.
I’d like to know what Elsie had to say. What did she know? Why did she “ring up” the Arnold’s townhouse at midnight? What did she know?
It’s Brief Case! We love you! And Forgotten Lives! Awesome duo. Ty for posting 😊Happy Holidays
I was so happy to hear that distinctive voice of Brief Case! Thank you 🙏
What a pleasure to hear your voice Brief case! ❤
Another amazing vid FL!! So happy to see you back AND with briefcase!! 😊❤ Happy Holidays!!
I wish parks could all be associated with fun and leisurely activitys😌
I love the old newspapers. This one at 2:16 had a headline about the perils of hat pins and another headline about a plane that flew thirteen miles.
Belated merry Christmas. Where have u been? Have missed ur vids. This was a fascinating story!!
I wonder if they didn't report her missing as "how would it look!"
Yes, and of course ruin her reputation and chances of getting married
This case has always intrigued me.
Thank you, FL & BC! I hope you had a wonderful Christmas.
That would make a fascinating movie. The Guilded Age is the rage these days. And she seemed to be quite a remarkable woman, for your video, and a bit of a deep dive.
Not buying suicide...she was accosted and killed. Either by a mugging gone bad; or a determined predator.
Her unconventional interests probably caused her family embarrassment; preventing them from aggressively pursuing her disappearance.
Brief Case did a excellent job narrating I really enjoyed the Case
Fascinating story! A total mystery! The college Bryn Mawr is pronounced “Brin” not “Brine.”
Not every microscopic detail can be researched by a TH-camr. One should appreciate the other 99.99% of of the video's research and presentation in under 15 minutes. A job well done. ❤
Well, two things not mentioned here: a possible kidnapping; and how was she a "perfume heiress"? Never heard one word about fragrances that the family invented.
Her father was a perfume importer. It’s said at the beginning of the video.
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Hope you enjoyed! Thanks for the support 🥰🥰
Hope you had a beautiful Christmas FL. Thank you to brief case for narrating this case. Would love to know what really happened to her.
Yeah!!! 2 of my faves 🎉. Awesome!
I recognised BC's voice immediately.
Since i am a subscriber to both channels, it didn't surprise me to hear BC voice until i remembered it wasn't his channel! Lol
lol!! Same here! I had to
Do a double take;)
How sad. I think she was killed.
Yes 😢
Why would anybody believe that she left because she felt like a failure or any of that crap. For one thing she had a party coming up. I don't assume that she would miss her own party. I also don't believe she would break her mother's heart and her siblings and her dad she wouldn't break all those people's hearts just because she wanted to get to the other side of the ocean! I believe that either the guy she spoke to molested her, or she went back home through the park and somebody grabbed her unawares and ravaged her before killing her because I simply cannot agree with anything that would have her still living 50 years later or even 5 years later without ever contacting her family. She wouldn't just run off and never contact her family again. Oh yeah and I forgot to mention she was too young to think of herself as a failure yet, she had years before she would be old enough to even think that.
Crazy that you think young people can’t feel like failures or have worthless/helpless/hopeless feelings. WILD! Haven’t you ever read the legend of Icarus? Spring Awakening? Anne Frank’s diary? Romeo and Juliet? Hahah
Hope you have a brilliant, fantastic, prosperous, healthy and happy new year. (And I hope Briefcase does, too.)
Thank you so much for all the work you've done. It's been beautifully illuminating of people in history who've been far too often overlooked.
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I agree with Darriendastar above ☝️ Hope to see more of these types of videos in the future 👏🏻
Good evening FL ❤
Merry Christmas to you and yours FLives🎄 Thank you for all wonderful videos throughout the year. Thank you for this great night surprise
Hi Elke, Happy New Year, I hope 2024 is really good for you, thanks for your support through 2023 :)
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Hi Brief Case! How kind of you! Thank you 🙏 Always a pleasure! I wish more success for you. Take care :) Ps: On top of other things, i'am recovering from COVID again! Such is life! All the best for you and your family
I know times have changed with notifying police after someone goes missing, but her family waiting 6 weeks is working against them. I bet had the missing been a young male, things would've played out differently and may have been solved.
A pleasant surprise to hear BriefCase narrate.
If it had been a young male literally NOBODY would have cared nearly as much. And we certainly wouldn’t have a video about it 100 years later because the sensationalistic articles about a beautiful young missing woman would have never been written and the victim’s name would have been lost to time. I’m a feminist but the idea of a young man getting more attention and care than this is silly
A brilliant episode! ❤ thank you!
What a pleasant surprise to hear BC's voice...I had to double check!! I think Dorothy had this all planned out...from meeting the friend and passing the note to save on postage (2 cents) and stating her route home through Central Park. Seems a bit to convenient. My first thought is she wanted to pursue an alternative lifestyle and chose to disappear for love. Second opinion, her family was aware of her attraction to women, abducted her and had one of those medical procedures done to her. It did not go as expected...because they never do and she spent the rest of her life in a sanatorium. Occasionally they paid someone to report a sighting. IMHO. Happy New Year to BC and FL !!
I love hearing interesting stories about people I’ve not heard of 😊 thanks. Safe and happy new year to both ❤
Me too 😊
Happy holidays and thanks for the great year of videos❤
I find it very interesting that she chose to live in a very not so good area of town being a socialite it almost seems like she was trying to escape her family
What a boring life that would have been.
Merry Christmas 🎅
Thank u for keeping her. Memory alive
This case, and all the theories surrounding it, has always fascinated me.
There was another video on this case and a Buried Bones podcast that she may have gone out west and married.
Ooh! What an unexpected surprise! 😮 I was expecting Forgotten Lives but it's Brief Case instead. Both are lovely! But Brief Case you really come in the clutch, since you had an upload on Christmas day on your own channel.
Always interesting
Thank you
Happiest of New Year. Intriguing story and as usual very well spent time. Thank 🌹 you for your consistent excellence.
Happy Holidays FL and happy New Year! May 2024 be a great year for you.
Great video FL & BC, thank you! 💕 Have a safe and happy New Year, looking forward to what’s coming in 2024! 🥂🎉
I keep expecting that BOOM! 😆
But if she had committed suicide wouldn’t the body have been found and then reported back to the family?
Thank you, for all your wonderful work! Happy New Year🎉
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to All!! Im subscribed to Brief Case already 😊 Great job both FL and BC😊
I really enjoyed this story, and can't wait to see more like it!
I love your channel! 😊
Tyvm!
Really enjoyed the scenery all throughout this one.
its truly sad how her family chose their own reputation over her safety ..it tells so much :(
Probably very common behavior back then. She'd been chomping at the bit to branch out and they stopped her so I can see how they thought she'd run away or gone off with a man.
Happy holidays to Forgotten Lives and Brief Case!
I think the family sent her to the funny house and just didn’t want anyone to know about it.
Thank you
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Her parents must have assumed she had run off with a man. That is why they didn't want to raise the alarm immediately.
Wow i thought clicked on a wrong video when I heard BC speaking. Love crossovers. Love both channels
The man who produces the brief case videos should be commended. He presents the facts without sensationalism or reading too much into them. I can understand why the Arnold family acted the way they did after Dorothy’s disappearance, they hoped to locate her themselves and avoid embarrassment not only to themselves but also to Dorothy. I personally think suicide was the likely scenario, this young woman was deeply disappointed over her failure to succeed in her writing career
A suicide leaves a body, so I think it more likely that she ran away
Here i was thinking this was a bad day. Quite a surprise to see another Forgotten Lives Brief Case collaboration. This has really made my day. Your narration styles complement each other so well. It would be cool if you created a channel together. I will be looking for Forgotten Lives on your channel in the near future i hope. Thank you both!
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That's not how Pennsylvania (or most of the US) pronounces "Bryn Mawr," for the record...
Brine Moor is a rather strange name for.a girls.school. :)
Im curious as to why it has a Welsh name and as to how you locals pronounce it.
@satsumamoon oooh, it's not a girls' school, it's a women's college. I'd say it "brin MAHR." th-cam.com/video/63evjpnuOnE/w-d-xo.html&t
The whole town it's in is called Bryn
Mawr, and there are many, many other Welsh named places nearby include Bala Cynwyd, Haverford, etc, They were "settled" and named this by immigrant Welsh Quakers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Tract
Several of the BMC dormitories are named with Welsh names too: Denbigh, Merion, Radnor, and Pembroke.
Is that the commonly accepted way to pronounce it there or does everyone have a different version and no one minds or corrects each other because no one can say for sure hiw its supposed to be pronounced? @@alisgray . I added a comment to the link you gave me , you might like to know how we Welsh say it so you can go and annoy everyone : D
@@satsumamoon on the East Coast, ig's prett standard. West of that most folks haven't heard of it at all.
Merry Christmas.
One would not go through Central Park to go from Fifth Avenue to the Upper East Side. Fifth Avenue is in the Upper East Side.
Happy New Year 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
If she went downtown on 5th Avenue from her home, Brentano's main store was on 5th Avenue and 47th. I don't understand why she would need to cross Central Park after seeing her friend and telling her she was on her way home. Did I miss something?
I hope the other young man is okay. I got very used to hearing him
Everyone needs a small vacation especially him. Life, studies and research to keep up a channel isn't easy
@@maries8364 I didn't know that was was the case. I was not being rude but you are. All you had to say is that he is on vacation and he'll be back.
@LilyFlowers-hh3sc wait I wasn't rude. I literally said it logically with empathy. Imagine me saying it in a soothing low tone. That's how I meant it. The words are not rude that is perspective though. I won't invalidate you because your perspective was that but knowing my intention now I hope you change your mind
I wonder if the cops searched the family’s attic…😉 Sad story no ending.
Merry Christmas 🎄🕊️☮️Thank you for another great video. Happy New Year 🕊️
Belated Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year.
Great hosting job BC, thanks.
Very interesting
BC, imagine, meeting you here😊
Has your voice changed? Thank you so good
take into consideration that the man who mentioned carrying a body and then take back his words, new what he was saying. its a confession of guilt and when released, he turned it around so the press will not be on his shoulders. or, why would he say a thing like that!
The images in this video are particularly beautiful.
A video suggestion is Martin Luther King, Jr’s mother, Alberta William King.
what a surprise!! BC filling in for FL!!! pet briefcat for me
Lol Brine More. I grew up in a Morton Salt town. We always had more brine
This is crazy because in today’s technology this case would of been solved in a New York minute👮
Brief Case!!😊
This family was a very strange indeed, she should run years before
Anyone know what Perfume?? All other questions have been asked.
The family imported perfumes and other good to the US, not made it
There is another option. She could have saved her own money over time and left. She could have made friends with someone she wanted to spend her life with who believed in her writing. She could have taken a pen-name. She could have taken another name and moved to Europe. We just don't know.
Melodic professional Narration!🙂
Could have been a botched abortion, seems to have been quite common back then, especially with sepsis being a huge killer at the time
Perhaps she eloped?