Maybe so but don't tell Lie's like an ATV only going 30 miles on a tank of gas I was with a group of 20 that went 100 miles on a tank makes me wonder how many more Lie's you told in this video
The electric revolution just keeps getting bigger, better and more exciting! Quad bikes! What will be next. Just think, we have quad bikes, cars, homes, water heaters, lawnmowers, the list is growing and it gets quieter, cheaper, more efficient and in some cases easier to maintain and in almost every case, cheaper to run. Thanks so much for this Robert.
Great video Rob...... Keypits Farm was the first place I ever had a ride on a quad bike many years ago on a holiday, its great to see what they are doing and I wish them all the very best. To anyone that hasn't been its a great day out please visit and support what this great group of people are doing.
Always wondered why there were just those 800w child quad bikes when i searched for the real ones that were electric... Now finally someone fills that niche and does it seriously! Congrats
Makes absolute sense for many purposes. Slowly becoming an electric convert... loving my 40V Li line trimmer more every time I use it. Reasons...LESS NOISE!, NO fuel cost, reputable manufacturer with parts available, ZERO pollution in use.
Rinoa Super-Genius I hear you. I have so many incomplete projects around. It really can get out of control. But the ones that I've completed are so much more rewarding.
***** thats differant, you have a goal and dont reach it. i have goals and reach them, but then add newer goals to improve what ive made. i completed what i originally wanted when i used the lawn tractor to move those piles of dirt in my front yard. so im not sure what your going on about, and how i have to "finish" this before doing a honda project.
Rinoa Super-Genius I didn't think I came off as an ass hat, but apparently that is how you took it. I hope you loosen that fist and take friendly advice for what it is. Have a great day!
Capitalism brought us the Koch brothers that are spending hundreds of millions to stop electric cars! Koch Brothers brought us lobbying! and now with Citizen United bringing us oligarchy.
I saw this episode years ago! I’m glad, that I came back, again! Loads of quads around here, very few electric. Hope that changes soon! Play carefully, smile often!
Fantastic work by a knowledgeable, hardworking and tenacious fellow. We definitely need more people like him and much wider publicity for projects like this. Thanks for bringing this to us Bobby Llew!
I was up visiting brother this past wkend, went for a short triail ride on one of his quads , lovely fall day but the noise from the machine took away from it. Electric is the way to go Cheers
It’s a little deceptive to say that it doesn’t cost anything for fuel. Electric vehicles have to factor in the cost of charging (which is not much compared to gas), but also you have to factor in the cost of battery replacement. If they have lead acid batteries, that’s every 3-5 years. If you have lithium batteries, that’s every 8-10 years. I’ve seen lead acid battery replacements for ATVs that cost $1,500 and for lithium about $5,500.
Well made lead acid batteries will Outlast 5 years, you should be able to get six or seven years, but you can also recondition lead acid batteries at home if they are mechanically sound, but must be done correctly to be environmentally safe.
If these were available in Australia I would have 4 of them. Great stuff. I already have an electric UTV and think fully electric is the way of the future.
I prefer the safety of UTVs and the fact that you can take somebody else with you without unnecessary man-touching. I'd rather a Zero (electric dirt bike) with a car horn on it for herding as a second one.
So true. The perception of certain things requiring petrol engines. Recently I became frustrated with my petrol chainsaw after its carburetter becoming blocked for the 100th time. I only needed to cut some firewood near the house, so went to my local hardware store and purchased an electric one. It's much more powerful and even my partner loves using it because it's easy to use! I posted a picture of her on Facebook and some of my friends were laughing about us using an electric chainsaw! They have never even used one to know they are superior.
I have a 240v plug-in lawnmower because I realized that all the time I will spend moving the cable around is less than I would have spent mixing fuel for a 2 stroke one. The only reason to have a petrol chainsaw is for 4WD adventures (clearing trees from the road), since it sees minimal use and is away from wall outlets. Then again a 12v powered one would be better.
IOUaUsername that's a great point about the lawn mower. Regarding the chainsaw, you are right about the necessity for portability. In my case it's rarely needed. I can see petrol saws becoming obsolete when the 12V battery powered saws become more affordable.
I have a 40 volt battery powered chainsaw (Greenworks brand) and I haven't touched the Stihl since. I hate fueling a chainsaw in the woods. The battery saw really does everything I need to do and the freedom from gasoline and noise is great. I've cut through some very thick trees with no problems at all.
You could never use an e saw if you actually cut firewood for your sole source of heat at home. When it's wood cutting day at my house, you'd need enough juice to run a machine for 8 hours. I don't see batteries handling that for a long time.
Nick Loganbill Agreed, at the moment. It will be a long time before a single battery could handle 8 hours of service. I think it would be more reasonable to carry multiple batteries, but at this moment in time, is cost prohibitive.
According to their website, the more expensive (4WD) model costs about £9k, while a competitor Yamaha costs around £5.5K, but the torque coming of this thing is incredible. I also estimate, with ~8 miles usage a day, that the Yamaha costs £2 to use daily, so it is a big step up in price.
Yes, and if you were a farmer you would know that animals don't like loud noise engines. The damage that the £2 petrol has caused before it even gets to the tank is ridiculous against the electric coming off the barn roof. A petrol engine will wear out long before a electric motor will.
These look great! I live in Canada and everyone has a quad (and a snowmobile) and this is right up my alley. I did have my usual "ewww it's a lead sled" reaction, but I do get their point about a quad needing some extra weight to it. Though a lot of people here use their quads to race in the bush, with taller suspension travel and much higher speeds. In that kind of case I'd say LiFePO4 would be better. But great stuff! Start selling them in Canada!
Hi Robert, I don't know how viable it would be for you to review, but there's a New Zealand based company, UBCO producing their "2x2". An all-electric 2 wheel drive utility-oriented motor bike, suitable for slippery conditions such as dairy farms, national parks, with a street legal version being introduced later this year. They're already seeing international interest, so once they've got them across the world, hopefully you'll have a chance to see and/or review one. Loads of fun, plenty of grip, and a very unique piece of equipment that solves a number of problems in regards to maintenance and running costs. Yes, I work at a shop that sells them, Yes I'm a little bit biased, but I think they're onto a winning formula regardless of how well they've executed it. 70-100km range on the flat, 40-80km on the rolling hills. 200kg load capacity, towing capabilities, front and rear rack, safer than a quad bike. 2 x 1kw hub motors, regen implemented but not enabled until they've made sure it's problem-free. $7999 NZD.
2x 1KW hub motors? Is that a typo by any chance? that ~2.7HP, wouldn't have thought it would have much towing capacity / carrying capacity up hills with so little power? I have a 2.5KW hubmotor on my E-bike and know its limitations well.
It's intended to replace AG bikes. There's thousands of ag bikes all over NZ, used for herding animals rather than towing stuff. There are some quads in NZ but much of the terrain is too steep.
1981therealfury It's surprisingly powerful given the format. Enough torque, being electric and all that, not a terribly fast top speed (restricted by software as far as I'm aware) About the same size as a Honda CT90. UBCO 2x2, check out their website, facebook page, or TH-cam channel.
Now this is more like it. Practical day to day use drive train and real world results. Quads and bikes are a great way to do research because of their power to weight ratios.
Fantastic, another great tech using electric technology. Guessing they are only for sale in the UK at the moment, can see them selling in rest of the world one day as well as Quad's are everywhere, fantastic how nice and quiet they are.
HI There - We are currently starting to sell a few abroad. Europe and Australia - soon to be in the US too. For any details please email me ben@ecochargerquads.com
Cool, I had been waiting to see someone building an electric quad-bike! Other stuff on my wish-list are electric snowmobiles, electric tractors and electric boats. Love the channel! :-)
High end lead acid batteries... aka for price point. Lipo battieres are the best choice if you don't care about price because of density, charge rate and depth of discharge.
It is very interesting to see the variety of vehicles that profit by being electrified. The boat, the quad, the bike... To me the quad looks quite solid and will sureley do its job. One can definetly see the potential, because it is just a refitted combustion quad. If they do the next logical step and develop a full electric concept for a quad, I am sure the performance will be even higher! Maybe an AWD with four electric motors in the wheel hubs and the battery below the driver? Makes it even more agile with better grip for an offroad vehicle and the lower center of gravity will definetly be an andvantage! Let's see, where the development goes!
This is the first time in a while, that I wanted to own a quad bike. Shame I am in Canada and not in the country side where I could get some fun out of it
No, he's saying he lives in downtown Toronto or Vancouver or something, and much like you wouldn't ride a quad bike in New York, you wouldn't use one there.
I kind of assumed that by 2021, EV quads would be much more common than they are. No long range needed often, charging available on the farm, strong motors needed, neighbour-friendly volume, etc.
The guy saying you know all the time is a bit annoying. But apart from that, REALLY good video. I'm glad to see some people taking the EV adventure even further with unusual applications.
This man here is completely right about quads 20 years ago or so. I have a new Can-am 570 and he couldn’t be more wrong. It’s not to hot next to my legs, it does about 100 miles on a tank, and it’s extremely comfortable with no vibrations at all. A good modern well put together machine will take you further than one of these. These seem great till the battery wears out in a year. Not to mention these are twice the price of a Norma quad bike and won’t last half as long!
An electric quad should last almost forever. Almost zero moving parts. All the parts are easily replaced. On an EV you just replace tires and wiper blades, for 15+ years. The savings on oil changes alone will pay for the battery replacement should you want one after 300k miles. Now let’s talk about fuel savings over a decade or two…….
@@legonut78 Do you not read the news? Some people are needing battery’s replaced in their teslas already at a cost of £15,000+. Notice how your phone or anything with a rechargeable battery doesn’t last forever? I don’t see why people think electric cars will be any different…
@@BOOTYSLAYER_-le3di I don’t read or watch the supermarket tabloids from the Murdoch empire. I look at reality. Batteries are doing fine and improving fast. We have them at work. All fine. Rarely a dud. The previous generation seems good for about eight years. The current gen is good for over ten years on average, which can be well over 200k miles. Many are approaching 300k already.
Lead acid batteries are a puzzling choice. I get the mass argument and price too. Still I have some doubts about it. I wonder how a model with Lithium Ions would perform. The saved mass could be used to pack more batteries or make the construction stronger. (yeah the price would rise). How about lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) batteries?
The weight is absolutely necessary for towing (the main use of a quad). You'd be surprised at how poor farmers actually are. Tesco/Coles/Woolworths/Safeway are sending them broke, then Aldi comes along and buys the farm and pays them decently (even in drought). None of them would be likely to risk the outlay on a lithium powered quad in hopes of saving in ongoing costs later.
Great Vision, R&D & Ethics !! im a design freak so also want better styling too ... i'd love a Can Am styled one with a longer range + 2seater + Electric power assisted trailer to even the strain of heavy loads over the whole configuration ... all in good time :-) The Future is Bright, Light & Electric !
another, you know, great video, you know, which, you know, shows what can be done with, you know, solar you know power, even Robert, you know, started repeating YOU KNOW, IF, you know, I had a tenner for every time, you know was spoken, I'd be more than you know happy !!!
Lithium-ion chemistries would probably be also more efficient charging. Usually lead acid dissipates some energy when charging. Li-fe could be a good option.
It's more about price to power output. You need the weight for towing traction, so if you went to lithium power you would need to either have excessive range (no real point, just adds cost) or a bunch of dead weight to provide traction. Why make the quad cost so much more for either no advantage or an unneeded one?
+Telmo Monteiro Not quite as high density as Li-ion but indeed yes Li Fe Po4 would be an option to increase both safety and specific energy compared to lead acid. Lithium sulfur would also be a good option although cost is higher and availability is scarce right now. Solid state polymer battery tech is also an option further into the future.
Sure LiFePO4 batteries would last for more years of service, but farmers manage costs for most things seasonally (such as petrol, diesel, fertilizer, seeds), with large purchases every 5 years or so. A lead acid powered quad which is close to the price of a petrol one but needs new batteries every 5 years fits better into the economics of farming than a far more expensive lithium powered quad that lasts 15 years.
+IOUaUsername Li-fe is heavier than the usual Li-ion cobalt chemistries (or even manganese I guess). Lead acid (Pb) could (uses to be) be also problematic with low temperatures. Low capacity and performance output. Pb has also a problem with discharging. If you use them just to 30% of it's capacity you could get good life time (five years or more), but if you discharge them often until 90% (not even 100%, which means something like 10,8V) you would need to replace them after a year. And it is not proportional. A 50% less in depth of discharge (DoD) is not double the cycle life, it's much more. And lastly, if you don't keep them always charged up, the lead plates inside will corrode and you will lose capacity most likely permanently. You don't have this kind of worries with Li-Fe. These are things worth considering. But I understand these specific Pb batteries used can be some state-of-art type of product which have better characteristics, but then the price should be also higher.
I cannot fathom the decision to go with lead acid instead of lithium in this application. I considered lead acid versus lithium for my own motorcycle build, and there was no way that lead could win. I love the idea of an electric quad, though, and would like to build one someday.
I'd like to point out that the company doesn't give HP ratings on its website. It talks about pull starting a 7 ton tractor and pulling a 420cc quad. In the US most farms in the US typically use 650cc quads or better. Why because we pull trailers into the fields and such with them instead of using a small tractor. You get the smallest tool that handles the biggest job you'll need from it. I'd really like to know how this compares power wise to my gas powered quad and 20m is nice but what will it do under a real strain.
it would be great if it had a lithium battery and a high power sine wave inverter for plugging in power tools! (Also the inverter should turn off before the battery's completely dead, so you can still get home.)
I understand his point about using lead acid battery because it adds more weight and you want the quad to be heavier so that it doesn't slide around. But, could you use lithium ion battery tech and just add some weight to the underside of the quad where it is needed? Even make the weights removable in case you want to convert it to a lighter weight for different purposes (like driving on dry pavement). Just some thoughts. This is great quad though, I would buy it.
They look quite a bit (actually almost the same) as the Sasquatch23 from Daymak in Canada. And the Sasquatches cost a lot less than the EcoCharger Quads. Amazing how much they look like them and they can charge the same way.
Robert, Great the way you can hear the sound of your voice without any wind noise or rumble, You must have been using noise reduction on a lapel mic overdubbed on to the video. The bike was great too
I absolutely love seeing thing like things like this...! It make me wonder, just out of curiosity, is there anything that can't be powered by electricity and where you will need some form of combustion engine...?
But, is it at least somehow waterresistant? Can i drive it through a small river (maybe even deeper than normal quads/ATVs)? And are there 4x4 versions?
It can most likely go as deep or deeper because there's no exhaust pipe dangling down low that can get clogged with water. Whether or not it can be completely submerged is up to how well they seal the charging plug. It would likely be able to withstand rain and even fairly large splashes like in the giant puddle in the video but not submerging since he said they are built for farmers and no one needs to cross a river on a farm (since they should have a bridge if they need to work on their land).
Considering petrol engines breathe air while electric engines don't, with proper insulation you'd be able to drive an electric vehicle completely underwater if that's your thing!
If the batteries are properly sealed then there is no reason why it shouldn't be able to ford a deep body of water. At the very least it is water resistant; if it weren't nobody would buy it, it would be a laughingstock.
This is great. I've always liked quads but hated the noise. Also - no transmission to deal with. It seems like most of the quad repairs that I've heard owners complain about is transmission and brakes. Nice camera work during the driving segment.
My brain committed suicide after the 86145647 times he said "you know". The dude is able to pack "you know" 3-4 times in a phrase, every single phrases.... Beside my now dead brain, fantastic review as usual.
It's great to be alive during the electric revolution!
Yeah but let's be real in the fact that these are not the same..
Maybe so but don't tell Lie's like an ATV only going 30 miles on a tank of gas I was with a group of 20 that went 100 miles on a tank makes me wonder how many more Lie's you told in this video
It’s 2020 update!!
@@marvenlunn6086 you're grammar sucks, I can't understand anything
Yeah, it's much better to wait 12 hours to recharge, than to refill in just 2 minutes. It just sucks to do things fast.
The electric revolution just keeps getting bigger, better and more exciting! Quad bikes! What will be next. Just think, we have quad bikes, cars, homes, water heaters, lawnmowers, the list is growing and it gets quieter, cheaper, more efficient and in some cases easier to maintain and in almost every case, cheaper to run. Thanks so much for this Robert.
Great video Rob...... Keypits Farm was the first place I ever had a ride on a quad bike many years ago on a holiday, its great to see what they are doing and I wish them all the very best. To anyone that hasn't been its a great day out please visit and support what this great group of people are doing.
Credit where credit is due. What a fantastic guy this fella is. Think we all need to take a notice to what this guy has achieved.
Always wondered why there were just those 800w child quad bikes when i searched for the real ones that were electric...
Now finally someone fills that niche and does it seriously! Congrats
Is there a left-hand-drive version for the US?
Sorry, couldn't resist...
yes, you just drive in reverse..
Brilliant idea and we (the uk) should be supporting companies like this to become world leaders in their field
Anyone else think this show is better than the new Top Gear?
Indeed, I wish fully charged was a show similar to top gear, but just focusing on non fossil fuel vehicles.
What you talking about? This is the new Top Gear! :oP
I don't think Electric Vehicles have any gears ?
they do, just not as many usually.
Just one gear usually.
Makes absolute sense for many purposes.
Slowly becoming an electric convert... loving my 40V Li line trimmer more every time I use it. Reasons...LESS NOISE!,
NO fuel cost, reputable manufacturer with parts available, ZERO pollution in use.
Great video as usual.
May I also add that the guy you interviewed was a breath of fresh air. He knows what its all about :).
this channel keeps getting better and better! i plan to convert one of my old 1980s Honda ATC 185 3 wheelers to electric someday.
Get the lawn tractor finished. That will give you a good base of knowledge to work from before you tackle the trike.
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there is no finishing of my projects like that, lol. plus i already know how to make the 3 wheeler electric.
Rinoa Super-Genius I hear you. I have so many incomplete projects around. It really can get out of control.
But the ones that I've completed are so much more rewarding.
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thats differant, you have a goal and dont reach it. i have goals and reach them, but then add newer goals to improve what ive made. i completed what i originally wanted when i used the lawn tractor to move those piles of dirt in my front yard. so im not sure what your going on about, and how i have to "finish" this before doing a honda project.
Rinoa Super-Genius I didn't think I came off as an ass hat, but apparently that is how you took it. I hope you loosen that fist and take friendly advice for what it is. Have a great day!
Wow this channel is awesome great videos
Delivered on roads brought to you via democratic SOCIALISM ;)
There is a balance.
Thank you capitalism then.
Capitalism brought us the Koch brothers that are spending hundreds of millions to stop electric cars! Koch Brothers brought us lobbying! and now with Citizen United bringing us oligarchy.
+Pouya Bo Bernie bros like you make people not want to even consider Bernie
Oh my quad, I love this channel!
I saw this episode years ago!
I’m glad, that I came back, again!
Loads of quads around here, very few electric.
Hope that changes soon!
Play carefully, smile often!
Fantastic work by a knowledgeable, hardworking and tenacious fellow. We definitely need more people like him and much wider publicity for projects like this. Thanks for bringing this to us Bobby Llew!
Much appreciated! Thanks
Finally! Please someone from Finland invite this guy to Lapland to try the Electric snowmobile developed in Rovaniemi
I was up visiting brother this past wkend, went for a short triail ride on one of his quads , lovely fall day but the noise from the machine took away from it. Electric is the way to go
Cheers
It’s a little deceptive to say that it doesn’t cost anything for fuel. Electric vehicles have to factor in the cost of charging (which is not much compared to gas), but also you have to factor in the cost of battery replacement. If they have lead acid batteries, that’s every 3-5 years. If you have lithium batteries, that’s every 8-10 years. I’ve seen lead acid battery replacements for ATVs that cost $1,500 and for lithium about $5,500.
Well made lead acid batteries will Outlast 5 years, you should be able to get six or seven years, but you can also recondition lead acid batteries at home if they are mechanically sound, but must be done correctly to be environmentally safe.
If these were available in Australia I would have 4 of them. Great stuff. I already have an electric UTV and think fully electric is the way of the future.
I prefer the safety of UTVs and the fact that you can take somebody else with you without unnecessary man-touching. I'd rather a Zero (electric dirt bike) with a car horn on it for herding as a second one.
"If these were available in Australia I would have 4 of them." Build 'em, mate!
Hi - We are looking to have the Eco Chargers available in Australia by October this year! For details please email me at ben@ecochargerquads.com
Hi
So true. The perception of certain things requiring petrol engines. Recently I became frustrated with my petrol chainsaw after its carburetter becoming blocked for the 100th time. I only needed to cut some firewood near the house, so went to my local hardware store and purchased an electric one. It's much more powerful and even my partner loves using it because it's easy to use! I posted a picture of her on Facebook and some of my friends were laughing about us using an electric chainsaw! They have never even used one to know they are superior.
I have a 240v plug-in lawnmower because I realized that all the time I will spend moving the cable around is less than I would have spent mixing fuel for a 2 stroke one. The only reason to have a petrol chainsaw is for 4WD adventures (clearing trees from the road), since it sees minimal use and is away from wall outlets. Then again a 12v powered one would be better.
IOUaUsername that's a great point about the lawn mower. Regarding the chainsaw, you are right about the necessity for portability. In my case it's rarely needed. I can see petrol saws becoming obsolete when the 12V battery powered saws become more affordable.
I have a 40 volt battery powered chainsaw (Greenworks brand) and I haven't touched the Stihl since. I hate fueling a chainsaw in the woods. The battery saw really does everything I need to do and the freedom from gasoline and noise is great. I've cut through some very thick trees with no problems at all.
You could never use an e saw if you actually cut firewood for your sole source of heat at home. When it's wood cutting day at my house, you'd need enough juice to run a machine for 8 hours. I don't see batteries handling that for a long time.
Nick Loganbill Agreed, at the moment. It will be a long time before a single battery could handle 8 hours of service. I think it would be more reasonable to carry multiple batteries, but at this moment in time, is cost prohibitive.
Glad I subscribed to this channel... always giving me some hope that out there something is moving...
Loved the use of background score from M.I.A. - "Bad Girls". Great job as always Robert.
Excellent interview. Exactly the same Lynch motor I use in my electric propulsion sailing yacht.
Thanks, Robert! I wish Eco Charger all the success possible.
And I really hope this catches on in other countries as well :)
Many Thanks! Appreciate your kind words!
Background music is very cool. Good luck to this manufacturer. These will sell well in USA. Thanks for another great video.
The elephant in the room: What do they cost?
According to their website, the more expensive (4WD) model costs about £9k, while a competitor Yamaha costs around £5.5K, but the torque coming of this thing is incredible. I also estimate, with ~8 miles usage a day, that the Yamaha costs £2 to use daily, so it is a big step up in price.
According to their website: "FROM £8,995".
When you factor in potentially zero fuel cost, ease of repair, etc. That's a very good deal. Wonder how long the batteries last.
+Joris are you basing that on just fuel costs? You also have oil, spark plugs and all that mess...
Yes, and if you were a farmer you would know that animals don't like loud noise engines. The damage that the £2 petrol has caused before it even gets to the tank is ridiculous against the electric coming off the barn roof. A petrol engine will wear out long before a electric motor will.
These look great! I live in Canada and everyone has a quad (and a snowmobile) and this is right up my alley. I did have my usual "ewww it's a lead sled" reaction, but I do get their point about a quad needing some extra weight to it. Though a lot of people here use their quads to race in the bush, with taller suspension travel and much higher speeds. In that kind of case I'd say LiFePO4 would be better.
But great stuff! Start selling them in Canada!
Excellent, great sustainable story and MITUK, in a green environment.
Hi Robert, I don't know how viable it would be for you to review, but there's a New Zealand based company, UBCO producing their "2x2". An all-electric 2 wheel drive utility-oriented motor bike, suitable for slippery conditions such as dairy farms, national parks, with a street legal version being introduced later this year. They're already seeing international interest, so once they've got them across the world, hopefully you'll have a chance to see and/or review one. Loads of fun, plenty of grip, and a very unique piece of equipment that solves a number of problems in regards to maintenance and running costs.
Yes, I work at a shop that sells them, Yes I'm a little bit biased, but I think they're onto a winning formula regardless of how well they've executed it.
70-100km range on the flat, 40-80km on the rolling hills. 200kg load capacity, towing capabilities, front and rear rack, safer than a quad bike. 2 x 1kw hub motors, regen implemented but not enabled until they've made sure it's problem-free.
$7999 NZD.
2x 1KW hub motors? Is that a typo by any chance? that ~2.7HP, wouldn't have thought it would have much towing capacity / carrying capacity up hills with so little power?
I have a 2.5KW hubmotor on my E-bike and know its limitations well.
It's intended to replace AG bikes. There's thousands of ag bikes all over NZ, used for herding animals rather than towing stuff. There are some quads in NZ but much of the terrain is too steep.
1981therealfury
It's surprisingly powerful given the format. Enough torque, being electric and all that, not a terribly fast top speed (restricted by software as far as I'm aware) About the same size as a Honda CT90.
UBCO 2x2, check out their website, facebook page, or TH-cam channel.
that ending made me smile :) no idea why.. probably just happy that the EVs are making so much progress :)
Krishan Modi morning
Excellent engineering, design and ingenuity.
Good luck with your business.
Awesome! Really awesome, you make such great content you put TV to shame!
Now this is more like it. Practical day to day use drive train and real world results. Quads and bikes are a great way to do research because of their power to weight ratios.
Fantastic, another great tech using electric technology. Guessing they are only for sale in the UK at the moment, can see them selling in rest of the world one day as well as Quad's are everywhere, fantastic how nice and quiet they are.
HI There - We are currently starting to sell a few abroad. Europe and Australia - soon to be in the US too. For any details please email me ben@ecochargerquads.com
Cool, I had been waiting to see someone building an electric quad-bike! Other stuff on my wish-list are electric snowmobiles, electric tractors and electric boats. Love the channel! :-)
Can't think of another channel on TH-cam that gets so little dislikes! You're doing amazing Robert!
This is a good example of where an electric vehicle was made to fit its function. Note especially the choice of battery type.
Gotta love reviews without prices!!!.........Around the 10-11K for the big daddy!!
High end lead acid batteries... aka for price point. Lipo battieres are the best choice if you don't care about price because of density, charge rate and depth of discharge.
This is a local motor for local people! There's nothing for you here.
You're my quad now!
1:53 "I got a bit moist that time" #IPreferKock
I pushed air out of my nose repeatedly. That scene was funny.
That's alway terricifly touching to see passionate people.
We need more of this kind of video!
Many Thanks!
Brilliant, - doubly-so for being a cottage industry.
It is very interesting to see the variety of vehicles that profit by being electrified. The boat, the quad, the bike...
To me the quad looks quite solid and will sureley do its job. One can definetly see the potential, because it is just a refitted combustion quad. If they do the next logical step and develop a full electric concept for a quad, I am sure the performance will be even higher! Maybe an AWD with four electric motors in the wheel hubs and the battery below the driver? Makes it even more agile with better grip for an offroad vehicle and the lower center of gravity will definetly be an andvantage! Let's see, where the development goes!
These continue to be great video's both in content and a multimedia setting. Great camera work on this one! Keep the great work up!
This is the first time in a while, that I wanted to own a quad bike. Shame I am in Canada and not in the country side where I could get some fun out of it
Electric mountain bike. Problem solved (and for far less money).
No, he's saying he lives in downtown Toronto or Vancouver or something, and much like you wouldn't ride a quad bike in New York, you wouldn't use one there.
IOUaUsername correct
they export. Had a chat with them few years ago, while charging my EV there (check plugshare)
vladzis awesome! Now I just need to move out to the country (again) to excuse buying it :-)
Was not expecting Robert Llewellyn set to Bad Girls by M.I.A
The unofficial world record is probably broken now (in saying "you know" most times in under 13 minutes... ;)
I was about to say the same... you know ! :)
Glad it wasn't just me.
y'know, nobody says "y'know" quite like him y'know?
It was amazingly irritating after some time.
Poor nervous chap. Elon wasn't a lot better to begin with!
BBC should give you your own program!
Wow that farm is quite nice looking. I would love to take one of those quads out there and just have lunch out in the field lol.
I see the license plates on the vehicles. Does it mean one can use them on public roads as well?
Love these videos! We need more people like you
The maker of quads said lot of interesting facts about use of the energy on the farm.
Very enjoyable presentation.
Love your vids. Great high quality episode and some nice editing.
I kind of assumed that by 2021, EV quads would be much more common than they are. No long range needed often, charging available on the farm, strong motors needed, neighbour-friendly volume, etc.
What's the brand and where did you get it from?
The guy saying you know all the time is a bit annoying. But apart from that, REALLY good video. I'm glad to see some people taking the EV adventure even further with unusual applications.
looks great fun , superb episode as usual Mr Llewellyn 🚜
This man here is completely right about quads 20 years ago or so. I have a new Can-am 570 and he couldn’t be more wrong. It’s not to hot next to my legs, it does about 100 miles on a tank, and it’s extremely comfortable with no vibrations at all. A good modern well put together machine will take you further than one of these. These seem great till the battery wears out in a year. Not to mention these are twice the price of a Norma quad bike and won’t last half as long!
An electric quad should last almost forever. Almost zero moving parts. All the parts are easily replaced. On an EV you just replace tires and wiper blades, for 15+ years. The savings on oil changes alone will pay for the battery replacement should you want one after 300k miles. Now let’s talk about fuel savings over a decade or two…….
@@legonut78 Do you not read the news? Some people are needing battery’s replaced in their teslas already at a cost of £15,000+. Notice how your phone or anything with a rechargeable battery doesn’t last forever? I don’t see why people think electric cars will be any different…
@@BOOTYSLAYER_-le3di I don’t read or watch the supermarket tabloids from the Murdoch empire. I look at reality. Batteries are doing fine and improving fast. We have them at work. All fine. Rarely a dud.
The previous generation seems good for about eight years. The current gen is good for over ten years on average, which can be well over 200k miles. Many are approaching 300k already.
Lead acid batteries are a puzzling choice. I get the mass argument and price too. Still I have some doubts about it. I wonder how a model with Lithium Ions would perform. The saved mass could be used to pack more batteries or make the construction stronger. (yeah the price would rise). How about lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) batteries?
The weight is absolutely necessary for towing (the main use of a quad). You'd be surprised at how poor farmers actually are. Tesco/Coles/Woolworths/Safeway are sending them broke, then Aldi comes along and buys the farm and pays them decently (even in drought). None of them would be likely to risk the outlay on a lithium powered quad in hopes of saving in ongoing costs later.
Great Vision, R&D & Ethics !!
im a design freak so also want better styling too ...
i'd love a Can Am styled one with a longer range + 2seater + Electric power assisted trailer to even the strain of heavy loads over the whole configuration ... all in good time :-)
The Future is Bright, Light & Electric !
Excellent video. I thought this was Key Pitts in North Devon. It well worth a visit, a beautiful location :)
another, you know, great video, you know, which, you know, shows what can be done with, you know, solar you know power, even Robert, you know, started repeating YOU KNOW, IF, you know, I had a tenner for every time, you know was spoken, I'd be more than you know happy !!!
Without a doubt I would ditch those lead acid batteries and put lithium ion instead.
Lithium-ion chemistries would probably be also more efficient charging. Usually lead acid dissipates some energy when charging.
Li-fe could be a good option.
It's more about price to power output. You need the weight for towing traction, so if you went to lithium power you would need to either have excessive range (no real point, just adds cost) or a bunch of dead weight to provide traction. Why make the quad cost so much more for either no advantage or an unneeded one?
+Telmo Monteiro Not quite as high density as Li-ion but indeed yes Li Fe Po4 would be an option to increase both safety and specific energy compared to lead acid. Lithium sulfur would also be a good option although cost is higher and availability is scarce right now. Solid state polymer battery tech is also an option further into the future.
Sure LiFePO4 batteries would last for more years of service, but farmers manage costs for most things seasonally (such as petrol, diesel, fertilizer, seeds), with large purchases every 5 years or so. A lead acid powered quad which is close to the price of a petrol one but needs new batteries every 5 years fits better into the economics of farming than a far more expensive lithium powered quad that lasts 15 years.
+IOUaUsername Li-fe is heavier than the usual Li-ion cobalt chemistries (or even manganese I guess).
Lead acid (Pb) could (uses to be) be also problematic with low temperatures. Low capacity and performance output.
Pb has also a problem with discharging. If you use them just to 30% of it's capacity you could get good life time (five years or more), but if you discharge them often until 90% (not even 100%, which means something like 10,8V) you would need to replace them after a year. And it is not proportional. A 50% less in depth of discharge (DoD) is not double the cycle life, it's much more.
And lastly, if you don't keep them always charged up, the lead plates inside will corrode and you will lose capacity most likely permanently.
You don't have this kind of worries with Li-Fe.
These are things worth considering.
But I understand these specific Pb batteries used can be some state-of-art type of product which have better characteristics, but then the price should be also higher.
Very impressive. anyone know where I can buy a couple them second hand. We need them for our farm in southern Africa
those quad bikes are totally awesome i want one.
have a great day
mark
I cannot fathom the decision to go with lead acid instead of lithium in this application. I considered lead acid versus lithium for my own motorcycle build, and there was no way that lead could win. I love the idea of an electric quad, though, and would like to build one someday.
excel ~ been a long time coming... waiting now on next gen
" fighting perception " the war is for the subconscious mind - good luck to this company and the others like them
just found out that Zero are back in the UK also, brilliant
I'd like to point out that the company doesn't give HP ratings on its website.
It talks about pull starting a 7 ton tractor and pulling a 420cc quad.
In the US most farms in the US typically use 650cc quads or better. Why because we pull trailers into the fields and such with them instead of using a small tractor.
You get the smallest tool that handles the biggest job you'll need from it.
I'd really like to know how this compares power wise to my gas powered quad and 20m is nice but what will it do under a real strain.
it would be great if it had a lithium battery and a high power sine wave inverter for plugging in power tools! (Also the inverter should turn off before the battery's completely dead, so you can still get home.)
This is incredible! I want one (or maybe two?) of these in my countryside.
and allways max torque. brilliant offroad capabillity!
I understand his point about using lead acid battery because it adds more weight and you want the quad to be heavier so that it doesn't slide around. But, could you use lithium ion battery tech and just add some weight to the underside of the quad where it is needed? Even make the weights removable in case you want to convert it to a lighter weight for different purposes (like driving on dry pavement). Just some thoughts. This is great quad though, I would buy it.
I just have one question it's dangerous to draft????
They look quite a bit (actually almost the same) as the Sasquatch23 from Daymak in Canada. And the Sasquatches cost a lot less than the EcoCharger Quads. Amazing how much they look like them and they can charge the same way.
they do look similar rear axle completely different, and only 1kw, these are 15kw, the Sasquatch is cheap though
I really enjoy watching your videos. you give us great information about everything we need to know😃
Robert, Great the way you can hear the sound of your voice without any wind noise or rumble, You must have been using noise reduction on a lapel mic overdubbed on to the video. The bike was great too
I absolutely love seeing thing like things like this...! It make me wonder, just out of curiosity, is there anything that can't be powered by electricity and where you will need some form of combustion engine...?
When are they coming to western australia i would like to get one
Dose it have any attachments.
This is my first episode viewed how much is an electric quad bike want to learn more live in the USA and would live one of these
you've travelled the galaxy with a talking cat and yet you're worried about a steep incline.
Fantastic show as normal. EVs Rock, a Lynch motor, great choice, but hang on, they've got an MG Maestro in the barn. That takes me back.
Really enjoy your videos
Have you checked out Nico Rosberg using an electric motorcycle on the Monaco GP circuit?
petrol may run through our veins, but there is electricity running through our nerves! ;)
Fabricio Zárate or our house...
But, is it at least somehow waterresistant? Can i drive it through a small river (maybe even deeper than normal quads/ATVs)? And are there 4x4 versions?
It can most likely go as deep or deeper because there's no exhaust pipe dangling down low that can get clogged with water. Whether or not it can be completely submerged is up to how well they seal the charging plug. It would likely be able to withstand rain and even fairly large splashes like in the giant puddle in the video but not submerging since he said they are built for farmers and no one needs to cross a river on a farm (since they should have a bridge if they need to work on their land).
Considering petrol engines breathe air while electric engines don't, with proper insulation you'd be able to drive an electric vehicle completely underwater if that's your thing!
If the batteries are properly sealed then there is no reason why it shouldn't be able to ford a deep body of water. At the very least it is water resistant; if it weren't nobody would buy it, it would be a laughingstock.
Yes, they have 2WD / 4WD / 6WD models, one is even switchable 2WD / 4 WD. I'd love to have one!
And in space if you build it right :D
This is great. I've always liked quads but hated the noise. Also - no transmission to deal with. It seems like most of the quad repairs that I've heard owners complain about is transmission and brakes.
Nice camera work during the driving segment.
What happens to regen braking when the battery is full?
Usually the regen slows the bike yes? So if the battery is full does that mean the bike won't slowdown using regen?
That guy has some awesome philosophy and way of thinking.
My brain committed suicide after the 86145647 times he said "you know". The dude is able to pack "you know" 3-4 times in a phrase, every single phrases....
Beside my now dead brain, fantastic review as usual.
where do you get one all i can find is toy ones for kids
We need these in the army
Song: M.I.A. - "Bad Girls"
Thank you
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Pretty cool makes a lot of sense
Im wondering how much it would cost per machine
What’s the mileage how long does it last on full charge