FYI the captain of the Archimedes, Sonia Gomez, is the same character who as a bumbling ensign who spilled coffee on Captain Picard at the beginning of "Q Who," the episode that introduced the Borg, in Star Trek: The Next Generation thirty years earlier. They even got the same actress, Lycia Naff, back to do her voice.
Notice how this scene Juxtaposes the season 1 finale? The Cerritos is in a situation where all looks hopeless until Boimler shouts "It's the Titan!" and Riker's ship comes to the rescue. Now it's the Archimedes caught in a hopeless situation and in the nick of time they're caught in a tractor beam as one of the crew shouts "it's the Cerritos!" For the first time in the series, our little Cali class crew are the rescuers
@@Raguleader And both are themselves callbacks to, I think, a TNG episode where "It's the Enterprise!" is first said, and Star Trek: First Contact where it's said as the Enterprise swoops in to save the Defiant vs the borg. Great scene, worth looking up on youtube for the TNG Enterprise theme swelling as the Enterprise passes overhead and Worf stands up out of his command chair.
Can we appreciate Ransom there? The thin layer of glass between his face and a horrible death by the vacuum of space cracks and he doesn't even flinch.
That's what I like about Ransom. He's a meathead, but he's also extremely competent. I like that the show portrays Starfleet people as skilled and professional despite all the craziness and jokes.
@@Evil0tto I see it as a matter of perspective. Lower Decks is from the perspective of the bottom of the chain of command, we usually get the top. Enterprise junior officers probably viewed Riker in much the same way. It's very true to how junior enlisted in the military view the senior officers, so much so that I can just about guarantee there are enlisted veterans in the writers room.
@@DrewLSsix you're missing my point bro, yeah there's references and nostalgia as much as there's new things, we get to see what 2nd contact is like. That's new since we get to see the lives of Starfleet in a California class ship and I think that's cool. Yeah nostalgia can get old but they still show star fleet life in a nutshell.
I think it had to do with the early episodes trying way to hard to be like Rick and Morty and missing the point of Star Trek, thank fully it had moved on from that to be it's own thing. The Next Generation show also had a really bad start as well so it's nothing new to trek.
They are not misfits...... They are just normal people instead of the usual "best of the best. If we were in the Star Trek universe, we would be Ensigns on the Cerritos.
@@root4322 maybe not strictly necessary, but I suspect it would be like having your ears squished in poorly fitting headphones, if you have to wear them for more than an hour they're gonna ache
I love it when an underdog like Cerritos, who is always told to do boring and inglorious things because no one expects much of them, and that no one really wants to do in Starfleet, performs as well as a 1st class crew, and gets the recognition they deserve.
I wonder if they were able to fdind and recover all that hull plating they removed? Otherwise, Engineering will be running around the clock creating new Hull plating and installing it. It might take close to a week.
@@drmayeda1930 At the beginning of Season 3, Cerritos was in drydock at Earth under impound/getting repaired, and she was still naked. I think they limped back to Earth as fast as they dared.
Every second of Lower Decks is captivating! Whenever I see a clip I think "Oh that was great! Now I wanna rewatch the episode!". Speaks to the quality of the show.
While I enjoy Discovery immensely, I do feel like the crew of the Cerritos are more relatable and realistic. Except for Ensign Tilly on the discovery. I really like that character.
Definitely more than discovery, and maybe more than Strange New Worlds? My main problem with discovery, and initially with Lower Decks, is that the whole idea of the federation is that we've EVOLVED. They aren't supposed to have a lot of the same intersocial or emotional problems we deal with today. I think thats what makes the trap that new-trek writers fall into with trying to make relatable characters, but forgetting the in-universe character logic. Strange New Worlds took a pretty big step back from that and I feel like they act like federation citizens from the future which is good! Lower decks got better for sure over its run but it still deals with that. But being that its a comedy, being relatable is important. Anyways TLDR, I like them more than Discovery, and although I'm not a huge fan of SNW I really respect the change of character writing thats happened.
i like that the comedy series is the series that shows the most detail of what the inside of a federation starship looks like. We got to see what is right under the hull plating, we got to see cetacean ops, huge amounts of jefferies tubes/crawlways. Unused shuttle bays, terrible bunkrooms, low level mess halls on and on. edit: and they explained why the bridge is full of rocks. editedit: and they solved the big problems with NAKED TIME as usual, but this time the SHIP gets naked.
I have to say that Titmouse really stepped up the animation quality, the second series was a visual treat and this episode in particular was an animated marvel. I hope their undoubtedly hard work was appropriately rewarded.
1:58 "five minutes until we hit atmo" Literally ten seconds later: **hits atmosphere** I think you carried a one in those calculations when you shouldn't have
I choose to believe he probably meant stratosphere where the Archimedes would complete it's breakup and be unrecoverable by any means and didn't want to get called a nerd for trying to explain the difference between the various atmospheric layers while they were about to die.
This particular scene more than some (but there are plenty), highlights something that some who don't care for this show completely overlook. They're not the "best". They're flawed and imperfect. That's just how people are. But more importantly, for all of that...they're still competent goddamned Starfleet officers. And they get done what needs doing, and they do it well, period.
The first season is hit or miss but they really come into their own in season two, I'd recomend looking up an episode guide if you have a low tolerance
Just think, in around 75 to 125 years from now, some commander/ captain or Helm officer will pull a manoeuvres similar to this to save another starship or station in an unstable orbit.
The part where Captain Gomez tells everyone to get to the back of the ship to give them a chance to survive but her helm officer tells her that they will stay with her till the end got me right in the feels. Shows you what kind of captain she is that her crew would rather die with her than leave her alone ❤️
Actually refreshing to have other crews in this show to be actually crews working in their ship competent and not there just to be blown to pieces or some evil scheme for a chance... The show not only centers in the crew of a "utility service" ship , but also acknowledges other crews better than many other shows (kinda reminds me Enterprise when the NX-02 would show up.. os DS-9 with the Rotarran arround)
Considering the fact that they were flying into a asteroid field at speed, I'm surprised the designers had that shot inside the Cerritos's bridge, and seeing all the scratch marks and impact craters of all the small rocks they ran through. I'm just also surprised no one has a baseball sized hole through their chests or missing limbs considering the kinda stationary debris, the speed the Cerritos was moving, and the lack of an atmosphere slowing anything down.
Mel Brooks once talked about the spoofs he's made of various movies (historical documentaries, Westerns, SF) and he said that YOU HAVE TO LOVE THE MATERIAL. That's why the Farrelly spoofs got bad when they got mean-spirited. Whoever writes for LOWER DECKS loves Star Trek.
I love this scene but, to be a massive nerd, there is a small discrepency. They had to remove the hull plating because it was magnetized and a collsion with one of the rocks would create an EMP effect. But Becket's magnet boot waving around in the middle of the debris feild doesn't attract anything. Again, completely unimportant and could easily be dismissed as "The boot isn't strong enough", but I thought about it and now you do too.
The only good modern Trek. Discovery and Picard both feel like the writers decided to remove "all the nerd garbage" from Trek and paste together whatever is left with random pages from Memory Alpha. I blame the normalization of anti-intellectualism in general and The Big Bang Theory specifically.
@@curtisharvey2330 Maybe one day I'll see for myself. I hope it *is* good, I really do. But I'm not a trekkie any more. Picard season 2 made something snap. Modern Trek spent all the built up good will I had toward the franchise, and I'm done grading it on a curve.
I like what I've seen of Picard well enough. I can understand the frustration that they made the aesthetic so flipping black and gun metal grey though, it'dbe nice if they'd kept a more consistent one with DS9 and Voyager.
@@lhei_tayuun Strange New Worlds really hits that old TNG Vibe. Fully episodic, and with episodes that focus on the bridge crew. Oh, and they don't take themselves too seriously. It's tied for me for top trek with DS9 imo
Absolute mad lads! Incredible finale, such a daring and inventive solution that was carried entirely upon the bravery, devotion, and skill of the crew. Truly a great Star Trek moment.
Currently binging the series and just finished Season 2. Damn this finale was emotionally intense and I was living for the entire vrew of Cerritos doing their part to save the day. Fucking god tier episodd. Too bad how the episode ended tho. Excited to start season 3!
This may be my favourite scene in all of Star Trek. The Cerritos saves the day, not with the squeal of a phaser or the scream of a torpedo. But with the gentle hum of a tractor beam.
While I loved this story and feel like it was well done, why couldn't they just use their warp engines to go up in the ecliptic, then over, then back down on the other side? I'm sure there's a very good reason.
easiest answer, the nature of the radiolytic isotopes in the explosion make going to warp without travelling far enough away dangerous, so they'd have to travel away, then overshoot, then travel back, potentially taking too long to reach the Archimedes in time. Is that true? I dunno, but it sounds like a convincing reason.
@@LowbrowDeluxe that actually makes a lot of sense! More sense then most explanations in Star Trek! Similar to having to an ambulance be required to go up to the next exit to turn around on a divided highway rather than just cut across the grass. It will take way too long and put more people at risk.
That's actually one of the suggestions brought up by the Tamarian bridge officer! Except instead of the typical trek technobabble, they just yelled at him as a quick jab at the aforementioned technobabble BS lol.
2D animation is cheaper than the CGI expected by modern live action shows so they can have more action for the same cost as any other episode. Plus it's written and directed by true treck heads instead of big budget directors who hate the status quo and always want to 'leave their mark' on the show by putting their own spin on it.
I think it's just more compact, and hasn't had any real misses to date. Hour long episodes and a lot of filler in 26 episode seasons drags down the average of the 'good' shows, but Lower Decks wouldn't exist or have the material it works from for a lot of it's content without them. I will admit, though, the two season finales, with the tie-through reference to TNG's "It's the Enterprise!" with ""It's the Titan!" then "It's the Cerritos!" ....is awfully close to being my nomination for the absolute best Trek episodes ever. That I even have to consider that against Balance of Terror or In the Pale Moonlight, is an amazing accomplishment.
Honestly, animation is just such a good tool for Star Trek and Sci-Fi in general, and so underutilized, likely due to its perception as a "kiddy" medium. If you want something to look realistic, you either have to model it somehow, or use CGI, or a combination of the two; both of these methods, while capable of producing stunning effects, are very expensive. It's hard enough to do the special effects for a show/movie more grounded in reality; but trying to pull off, say, a multi-ship battle set in an appropriately stunning part of space? That's gonna cost you a small fortune, so at the very least, you have to pick and choose where you put your epic setpiece, usually in the climax/finale, and it's not the sort of thing you can do on the regular or you're gonna go broke. But animation? It doesn't matter if you're animating an alien or a human, another planet or a normal town, a giant spaceship or a minivan; they all cost roughly the same to produce. So it's much easier to justify big, bombastic, showy, majestic, etc. because it'd cost about the same to make it generic. That, and the fact that you don't have to find some way for whatever you're making to work in the real world. You just have to be able to draw it. It allows for more freedom of creativity, taking away a lot of the physical limits of live-action. I've been so glad to see Lower Decks taking full advantage of the fairly unique opportunity they have with an animated Star Trek show; going all out with different locations, more alien variety, amazing visuals, and of course, action sequences in space. I'm really hoping the show helps demonstrate the potential animation has as a medium for Sci-Fi. I'd love to see some more animated Sci-Fi in the near future, there's just so much untapped potential there.
Why would those aliens be happily watching a ship com right at them? Even if they had no idea what it was, they look advanced enough to know an asteroid is a bad thing.
As much as i love lower decks they could have just warped around the charged debri like theirs no way they couldnt have done that seeing as how it didnt surround the planet they were heading towards hell they could have gone around it at just impulse speed as well they had hours to save them
@@Pavel_M_Mihalik there's no way the cloud is moving faster than impulse speed,if that were the case, the problem of the episode would be to save the planet from incoming proyectiles at relativistic speeds
@@nekodesigner Speed isn’t the problem here, it’s almost static. The cloud takes up a sizeable part of the solar system between the Cerritos and the planet. It would simply take too long to go around it.
Because unlike exploration ships, the bridge is 2 decks down. The Cerretos had to intentionally carve out the viewscreen. They were too busy to install seatbelts at the same time.
Not to sound overly grim, but I had an idea for the Archimedes: blow themselves up before they get too close to the planet. Sure they all die, but they don't smash into the atmosphere and risk an extinction-level event. Most of the ships mass would be flung away, and the smaller remaining bits may just burn up in the atmosphere. Still better than an entire ship. It would have been cool if they were considering sacrificing themselves for the innocents, and the Cerritos got there just in time.
It would be unlikely to work out in terms of real-world physics, at least. If none of the debris manages to be flung out of the gravity well, then all the mass and energy of the ship still ends up on the surface, whether it's in a single big piece or a cloud of smaller ones, and those are equally catastrophic. (And for every fragment accelerated to escape velocity, an equal amount of mass must be accelerated in the opposite direction.)
"there's a chance you'll survive", really?, at 3million metric tonnes entering from orbit with only standard earth atmosphere to slow you down? No, an icicle in hell stands a better chance of surviving. Even assuming the ship mostly survives, the force on impact is going to turn the crew to jelly.
I wish this show would crossover with one of the other shows but the problem is that most of them is live action and I don’t know how something like that would work.
I don't want to be that pebble but... why the Cerritos didn't preformed an U trajectory so they couldn't go through the anomaly?... Just a silly 3D thinking...
It would take too long to fly around it. They needed to get to the Archimedes as quickly as possible, otherwise the planet would've been nuked by its warp core.
@@Pavel_M_Mihalik too long? they could've literally went warp 2.0 to overshoot the archimedes and circle back from the other side... with time to spare.
Kayshon suggested that and everyone jumped down his throat like it was *obviously* a non-viable solution. There may have been a logical reason, like the field producing an effect that meant warp fields wouldn't be stable. But the episode was also poking fun at the fact that using warp to go around something is a solution that's so often skipped.
@@3RayfireUsing warp to move within a star system was the solution in an episode of DS9 and they made it clear that it was an extremely dangerous and fraught solution even using the Defiant, I imagine a worn down workhorse like the Cerritos would have been even worse even before considering the additional hazard that they're by definition warping in right near a massive debris field and right next to a planet instead of just near a tiny shuttle
I... don´t even know where to begin with this. At the very least Mariner should not have survived this... rather odd and conveniet failure of her magnetic boots. Without shields and the outer hull the major impacts should have crippled the Cerritos. And there´s also no way ONE tractor beam could catch both the nacelle and the Archimedes. One can see the nacelle fall off and behind a fair bit... and then suddenly the nacelle is right next to the ship again? Also the Archimedes was already entering the atmosphere WITH all of its hull attached. Yet the Cerritos doesn´t even get a smidge of scorching - and just by stopping the Archimedes and NOT pulling her back up they suddenly are in a "stable orbit". ANYONE who claims this is better than any of the other Trek series has neither taste nor enough active brain cells to even notice all those inconsistencies and plain bullsh** that happens here in just under 3 minutes.
And without shields the Voyager should've been torn apart by the binary pulsars it flew between to "cleanse" the Srivrani "doctors" that were experimenting on the crew. Or Starfleet makes her ships incredibly tough. Why can't a tractor beam be set to wide enough catch more than one object? It isn't a linear beam, but conical. Conversely the Cerritos is a utility ship and subsequent episodes have shown that she has incredibly powerful tractor beams. The Nacelle actually wouldn't have moved that far away since it was on the same vector as the Archimedes and would have less drag. And the Cerritos wouldn't have any scorching, unlike the Archimedes she didn't enter the atmosphere in an uncontrolled dive at high speed. Stable Orbit also applies to "no longer crashing", since orbit is technically falling in a manner where you miss hitting the surface. Perhaps people who have a different opinion from you aren't stupid, maybe you're just not considering all the possibilities.
@@3Rayfire We´ve had "wtf" moments in Trek... well, since the beginning. My problem with Lower Decks is that in EVERY episode at least half of it is based on bulls*** moments. By comparison even the second season of Picard, as a whole, makes more sense than any episode of Lower Decks - this includes the Strange New Worlds crossover, although the BS-factor was reduced to about a total quarter due to SNWs influence. "Inconsistent" is a base principle of Lower Decks, unlike everything else Trek that we had so far - again, this includes the second season of Picard, parts of Discovery and the entire classic Animated Series. I can enjoy simple fun, but Lower Decks isn´t just that either. It tries to be serious and does have a few moments - which would not have happened or been required at all had it not been for one or several crew members to have done something so incredibly stupid that I wonder how any of those idiots made it out of Starfleet Academy with anything but a Janitor´s commission. Lower Decks fails - for me - because it wants to dance on two very different parties. It knows the moves but the styles are so vastly apart that the mix it presents is just galactic event level moronic. And the one thing I hate is when a presented universe not only contradicts itself and violates its rules but does so every few minutes, always. For me Lower Decks will never be part of "normal" canon - its just way to idiotic for that, it doesn´t fit in any way.
@@robertmandl9326 While I don't think the problems are anywhere near as glaring as you see them (personally I see Voyager as the height of inconsistency) I can respect how you came to that conclusion. The show was basically terrible to me until the last two episodes of the first season. I do think it carries the spirit of Star Trek, and at the very least I feel the people who made it, love Star Trek.
Why did they shed the hull? Magnetism? Really..? It’s like this isn’t even trying to be a sci-fic anymore. We have the ability to depolarize our hulls now, which should be all they need to do.
Hulls always have a magnetic polarity. It's because of the ability to have a magnetic polarity that the asteroid field interacts in this unique way that damages a ship's computer systems.
@@SoranoGuardias Well the polarity is why magnetic mines used to be an issue, so they put metal coils around a ship’s hull and I believe that fixed the issue.
@@FurryEskimo the added effect of asteroid field that if anything the has power or magnetic draws them in and if it hits anything with power or magnetic it will cause a emp chain reacting
@@TheNovadragon223 Ok, but again, we can prevent the ship from having a magnetic field, without discharging power into the asteroids. Also, don’t they have a deflector shield? I’m guessing that wasn’t working, huh?
@@FurryEskimo You cannot prevent the ship from having a magnetic field. The ability to interact with a magnetic field is an intrinsic property that can only be dampened.
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FYI the captain of the Archimedes, Sonia Gomez, is the same character who as a bumbling ensign who spilled coffee on Captain Picard at the beginning of "Q Who," the episode that introduced the Borg, in Star Trek: The Next Generation thirty years earlier. They even got the same actress, Lycia Naff, back to do her voice.
@@cosmeticscameo8277 The Dominion War probably created some opportunities for advancement.
@AdmRose this is so dark but true 😅
Awesome!!!
@@AdmRose War definitely create a lot of room for advancement. In the wake of the war you have younger captiains than her out there
@@AdmRose "A quick plague, or a bloody war." - traditional junior officer toast.
Notice how this scene Juxtaposes the season 1 finale? The Cerritos is in a situation where all looks hopeless until Boimler shouts "It's the Titan!" and Riker's ship comes to the rescue. Now it's the Archimedes caught in a hopeless situation and in the nick of time they're caught in a tractor beam as one of the crew shouts "it's the Cerritos!" For the first time in the series, our little Cali class crew are the rescuers
And both scenes involve ships captained by TNG characters.
@@Raguleader And both are themselves callbacks to, I think, a TNG episode where "It's the Enterprise!" is first said, and Star Trek: First Contact where it's said as the Enterprise swoops in to save the Defiant vs the borg. Great scene, worth looking up on youtube for the TNG Enterprise theme swelling as the Enterprise passes overhead and Worf stands up out of his command chair.
@@LowbrowDeluxe I believe that was the movie Star Trek: First Contact
Can we appreciate Ransom there? The thin layer of glass between his face and a horrible death by the vacuum of space cracks and he doesn't even flinch.
"Ransom, unflinching!"- some future Tamarian.
That's what I like about Ransom. He's a meathead, but he's also extremely competent. I like that the show portrays Starfleet people as skilled and professional despite all the craziness and jokes.
@@Evil0tto I see it as a matter of perspective. Lower Decks is from the perspective of the bottom of the chain of command, we usually get the top.
Enterprise junior officers probably viewed Riker in much the same way.
It's very true to how junior enlisted in the military view the senior officers, so much so that I can just about guarantee there are enlisted veterans in the writers room.
Ransom's character development is awesome.
I can't believe there's fans who hate this show. I've felt more OG star trek vibes from this than Picard, and discovery.
That's the problem, it's 90% references and callbacks. Star trek is supposed to be about NEW things not nostalgia.
@@DrewLSsix you're missing my point bro, yeah there's references and nostalgia as much as there's new things, we get to see what 2nd contact is like. That's new since we get to see the lives of Starfleet in a California class ship and I think that's cool. Yeah nostalgia can get old but they still show star fleet life in a nutshell.
@@DrewLSsix th-cam.com/video/PdD7xVBkN0o/w-d-xo.html
@@DrewLSsix That's what Discovery is for. And yet, there are people who hate it, because it's ''too new''. You just can't please everyone.
I think it had to do with the early episodes trying way to hard to be like Rick and Morty and missing the point of Star Trek, thank fully it had moved on from that to be it's own thing. The Next Generation show also had a really bad start as well so it's nothing new to trek.
The Cerritos crew may be a bunch of misfits, but put them in a crisis and they show why they are Starfleet.
Says a lot about the Federation that one of their least-important ships is still pretty great.
They are not misfits...... They are just normal people instead of the usual "best of the best.
If we were in the Star Trek universe, we would be Ensigns on the Cerritos.
@@Gilhelmi not me i would be on a starbase
@@cosmeticscameo8277 just pray it isnt base 80
It is nice the Andorians have custom helmets for their antenna.
It's very star fleet, you'd expect the federation to do that.
It's adorable.
considering their antennae can bend, is it necessary
@@root4322 maybe not strictly necessary, but I suspect it would be like having your ears squished in poorly fitting headphones, if you have to wear them for more than an hour they're gonna ache
@@human-tk2fo they rely on their antennae for balance, similar to the way humans use their inner ears, so it’s probably more vital than simple comfort
I love it when an underdog like Cerritos, who is always told to do boring and inglorious things because no one expects much of them, and that no one really wants to do in Starfleet, performs as well as a 1st class crew, and gets the recognition they deserve.
They prove why they are in starfleet.
I wonder if they were able to fdind and recover all that hull plating they removed? Otherwise, Engineering will be running around the clock creating new Hull plating and installing it. It might take close to a week.
@@drmayeda1930 At the beginning of Season 3, Cerritos was in drydock at Earth under impound/getting repaired, and she was still naked. I think they limped back to Earth as fast as they dared.
Captain Sonya, she wanted to save her crew, and her crew wanted to be there for what could be their final moments. Must of been one heck of a Captain.
Her coffee spilling days must be far behind her.
@@Avatarbee it was hot chocolate!
She learned from Picard...what would you expect?
Every second of Lower Decks is captivating! Whenever I see a clip I think "Oh that was great! Now I wanna rewatch the episode!". Speaks to the quality of the show.
Same
I know, right?!
I'm just gonna say it, I like the crew of the Cerritos more than the crew of the Discovery 😊
Discovery please
I like them more than I like voyagers crew
That's not hard. I'd prefer hemorrhoids over the Discovery crew.
While I enjoy Discovery immensely, I do feel like the crew of the Cerritos are more relatable and realistic. Except for Ensign Tilly on the discovery. I really like that character.
That’s what good writing gives you
Definitely more than discovery, and maybe more than Strange New Worlds? My main problem with discovery, and initially with Lower Decks, is that the whole idea of the federation is that we've EVOLVED. They aren't supposed to have a lot of the same intersocial or emotional problems we deal with today. I think thats what makes the trap that new-trek writers fall into with trying to make relatable characters, but forgetting the in-universe character logic. Strange New Worlds took a pretty big step back from that and I feel like they act like federation citizens from the future which is good! Lower decks got better for sure over its run but it still deals with that. But being that its a comedy, being relatable is important. Anyways TLDR, I like them more than Discovery, and although I'm not a huge fan of SNW I really respect the change of character writing thats happened.
i like that the comedy series is the series that shows the most detail of what the inside of a federation starship looks like. We got to see what is right under the hull plating, we got to see cetacean ops, huge amounts of jefferies tubes/crawlways. Unused shuttle bays, terrible bunkrooms, low level mess halls on and on.
edit: and they explained why the bridge is full of rocks.
editedit: and they solved the big problems with NAKED TIME as usual, but this time the SHIP gets naked.
Thank god that the federation spent so long developing tractor beam tech
thank god it wasn't going to be installed on Tuesday
@@Trikeboy2 Or thank god it was installed LAST Tuesday or something.
@@galahad6300 let me guess, its installed on tuesday.
@@Timeward76 Yes. Thank goodness today is Tuesday! Lmao
@@galahad6300 no ship shall leave spacedock ill-equipped today!
I have to say that Titmouse really stepped up the animation quality, the second series was a visual treat and this episode in particular was an animated marvel. I hope their undoubtedly hard work was appropriately rewarded.
Writing is good too. Parodies can be difficult to pull off well.
@@Klaaism it's not a parody. This is canon Star Trek.
1:58 "five minutes until we hit atmo"
Literally ten seconds later: **hits atmosphere**
I think you carried a one in those calculations when you shouldn't have
I choose to believe he probably meant stratosphere where the Archimedes would complete it's breakup and be unrecoverable by any means and didn't want to get called a nerd for trying to explain the difference between the various atmospheric layers while they were about to die.
Still better calculated than in Into Darkness where the Enterprise was already below the clouds.
@@schwarzerritter5724 LOL, that wasn't even that movie's worse offense. They literally rendered starships pointless with interstellar transporters.
@@cobaltblue1975 The space suits are equally fragile though.
@@cobaltblue1975 that doesn't make any sense.....are you trying to say they will explore by beaming people randomly into deep space?
This is what StarFleet is all about. Working together in a common goal to save people who need to be saved
That clumsy and nervous ensign really matured, good job!
No.
Boimler is still neurotic to some degree, but he is growing, and he's Starfleet to the bone.
No matter your opinion on this show, I love it, no one should deny that the shot of the ship with the hull removed is really cool!
This particular scene more than some (but there are plenty), highlights something that some who don't care for this show completely overlook.
They're not the "best". They're flawed and imperfect. That's just how people are.
But more importantly, for all of that...they're still competent goddamned Starfleet officers. And they get done what needs doing, and they do it well, period.
I think the show even had to outright state there's a floor to how incompetent you can be and still be in Starfleet.
When you saw mariner freak out in space. You actually worry for them
They really need to start installing seat restraints in starships
Or carabiners to lash themselves to their posts.
The Enterprise of Support Ships
This is a good candidate for the most exciting and intense scene in the entire Star Trek canon.
I might have to give Lower Decks a watch, after all.
The first season is hit or miss but they really come into their own in season two, I'd recomend looking up an episode guide if you have a low tolerance
@@MrGemHunter I mean, ToS aside, what Star Trek season hasn't take a few episodes (or seasons) to really hit its stride?
LD and SNW keep bringing joy to this Trekkie heart
Just saw what LD is about... Will be watching now. Fun.
Just think, in around 75 to 125 years from now, some commander/ captain or Helm officer will pull a manoeuvres similar to this to save another starship or station in an unstable orbit.
The part where Captain Gomez tells everyone to get to the back of the ship to give them a chance to survive but her helm officer tells her that they will stay with her till the end got me right in the feels. Shows you what kind of captain she is that her crew would rather die with her than leave her alone ❤️
Actually refreshing to have other crews in this show to be actually crews working in their ship competent and not there just to be blown to pieces or some evil scheme for a chance... The show not only centers in the crew of a "utility service" ship , but also acknowledges other crews better than many other shows (kinda reminds me Enterprise when the NX-02 would show up.. os DS-9 with the Rotarran arround)
Considering the fact that they were flying into a asteroid field at speed, I'm surprised the designers had that shot inside the Cerritos's bridge, and seeing all the scratch marks and impact craters of all the small rocks they ran through.
I'm just also surprised no one has a baseball sized hole through their chests or missing limbs considering the kinda stationary debris, the speed the Cerritos was moving, and the lack of an atmosphere slowing anything down.
Well we saw it hit ransom and the space suit survived. They're probably super sturdy.
This made me look up when season 3 is coming. Seems the 25th august this year, so in 20 days. Sweet.
2 days from now? What?!
Always amazing when a light'n'fluffy affectionate spoof/sitcom is able to deliver genuinely exciting drama.
Mel Brooks once talked about the spoofs he's made of various movies (historical documentaries, Westerns, SF) and he said that YOU HAVE TO LOVE THE MATERIAL. That's why the Farrelly spoofs got bad when they got mean-spirited.
Whoever writes for LOWER DECKS loves Star Trek.
I love this scene but, to be a massive nerd, there is a small discrepency. They had to remove the hull plating because it was magnetized and a collsion with one of the rocks would create an EMP effect.
But Becket's magnet boot waving around in the middle of the debris feild doesn't attract anything. Again, completely unimportant and could easily be dismissed as "The boot isn't strong enough", but I thought about it and now you do too.
The only good modern Trek. Discovery and Picard both feel like the writers decided to remove "all the nerd garbage" from Trek and paste together whatever is left with random pages from Memory Alpha. I blame the normalization of anti-intellectualism in general and The Big Bang Theory specifically.
Too much fanservice, aside from that, Lower Decks is good.
Idk, Strange New Worlds seemed cool enough.
@@curtisharvey2330 Maybe one day I'll see for myself. I hope it *is* good, I really do. But I'm not a trekkie any more. Picard season 2 made something snap. Modern Trek spent all the built up good will I had toward the franchise, and I'm done grading it on a curve.
I like what I've seen of Picard well enough. I can understand the frustration that they made the aesthetic so flipping black and gun metal grey though, it'dbe nice if they'd kept a more consistent one with DS9 and Voyager.
@@lhei_tayuun Strange New Worlds really hits that old TNG Vibe. Fully episodic, and with episodes that focus on the bridge crew. Oh, and they don't take themselves too seriously. It's tied for me for top trek with DS9 imo
01:32 Sometimes I can't believe that they don't use episodes of the various Star Trek series to advertise for seat belts.
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Shaking the crew around is part of the Formula.
Absolute mad lads! Incredible finale, such a daring and inventive solution that was carried entirely upon the bravery, devotion, and skill of the crew. Truly a great Star Trek moment.
So who else is ticked off that Jennifer won't be back in season three?
I am genuinely in awe of this scene- its one of the best sequences in Star Trek, full-stop.
This right here is why the Cerritos in considered the Enterprise of the California class.
Well, the episode *did* have a strip scene.
The naked Cerritos is a damn good looking ship
I still love that the one to save Beckett was someone that hated her. Turns out she thought Beckett hated her first.
And then they fell in love
Currently binging the series and just finished Season 2. Damn this finale was emotionally intense and I was living for the entire vrew of Cerritos doing their part to save the day. Fucking god tier episodd. Too bad how the episode ended tho. Excited to start season 3!
As a resident of Cerritos I would like to also see a ship called GoodYear
This may be my favourite scene in all of Star Trek. The Cerritos saves the day, not with the squeal of a phaser or the scream of a torpedo. But with the gentle hum of a tractor beam.
Every time I see this clip I'm always so curious: where is that guy at 1:28 going? Why isn't he at his station???? 😂😂😂
Stil wonder why spacesuits lack a jet pack
At least in this show there's a good reason for there to be chunks of rock littering the bridge...
Just this once, everybody lives
Are there no policies against nudity on TH-cam?
Come on, the whole ship is naked!
They could have at least thrown a towel on her...
While I loved this story and feel like it was well done, why couldn't they just use their warp engines to go up in the ecliptic, then over, then back down on the other side? I'm sure there's a very good reason.
easiest answer, the nature of the radiolytic isotopes in the explosion make going to warp without travelling far enough away dangerous, so they'd have to travel away, then overshoot, then travel back, potentially taking too long to reach the Archimedes in time. Is that true? I dunno, but it sounds like a convincing reason.
@@LowbrowDeluxe that has me convinced.
@@LowbrowDeluxe The most Star Trek answer I have ever heard.
@@LowbrowDeluxe that actually makes a lot of sense! More sense then most explanations in Star Trek!
Similar to having to an ambulance be required to go up to the next exit to turn around on a divided highway rather than just cut across the grass. It will take way too long and put more people at risk.
That's actually one of the suggestions brought up by the Tamarian bridge officer! Except instead of the typical trek technobabble, they just yelled at him as a quick jab at the aforementioned technobabble BS lol.
As much as this show is a comedy, I Loved this episode so much because it is 100% the values of Starfleet. Through teamwork, everything is possible.
I love lower decks it's more Star Trek than Star Trek Discovery will ever by
Long live Star Trek lower decks
I love this Star Trek Version.
Dude ... how is this better than ALL the live action Star Treks? I mean ALL of them. Classic & NuTrek?
What is happening?
Well ain't action is a potent and flexible tool.
2D animation is cheaper than the CGI expected by modern live action shows so they can have more action for the same cost as any other episode. Plus it's written and directed by true treck heads instead of big budget directors who hate the status quo and always want to 'leave their mark' on the show by putting their own spin on it.
I think it's just more compact, and hasn't had any real misses to date. Hour long episodes and a lot of filler in 26 episode seasons drags down the average of the 'good' shows, but Lower Decks wouldn't exist or have the material it works from for a lot of it's content without them. I will admit, though, the two season finales, with the tie-through reference to TNG's "It's the Enterprise!" with ""It's the Titan!" then "It's the Cerritos!" ....is awfully close to being my nomination for the absolute best Trek episodes ever. That I even have to consider that against Balance of Terror or In the Pale Moonlight, is an amazing accomplishment.
Honestly, animation is just such a good tool for Star Trek and Sci-Fi in general, and so underutilized, likely due to its perception as a "kiddy" medium. If you want something to look realistic, you either have to model it somehow, or use CGI, or a combination of the two; both of these methods, while capable of producing stunning effects, are very expensive. It's hard enough to do the special effects for a show/movie more grounded in reality; but trying to pull off, say, a multi-ship battle set in an appropriately stunning part of space? That's gonna cost you a small fortune, so at the very least, you have to pick and choose where you put your epic setpiece, usually in the climax/finale, and it's not the sort of thing you can do on the regular or you're gonna go broke.
But animation? It doesn't matter if you're animating an alien or a human, another planet or a normal town, a giant spaceship or a minivan; they all cost roughly the same to produce. So it's much easier to justify big, bombastic, showy, majestic, etc. because it'd cost about the same to make it generic. That, and the fact that you don't have to find some way for whatever you're making to work in the real world. You just have to be able to draw it. It allows for more freedom of creativity, taking away a lot of the physical limits of live-action.
I've been so glad to see Lower Decks taking full advantage of the fairly unique opportunity they have with an animated Star Trek show; going all out with different locations, more alien variety, amazing visuals, and of course, action sequences in space. I'm really hoping the show helps demonstrate the potential animation has as a medium for Sci-Fi. I'd love to see some more animated Sci-Fi in the near future, there's just so much untapped potential there.
@@AndrewTaylorNintyuk Yeah like dogs pissing on lamposts to leave their mark...
The best New Trek Show.🖖
2:20 why does Captain Gomez look so sus? 👀
Why would those aliens be happily watching a ship com right at them? Even if they had no idea what it was, they look advanced enough to know an asteroid is a bad thing.
They knew ships were coming for first contact, they just assumed that was them.
I still think 'Cerritos' sounds like something you order as a side dish at a Mexican restaurant.
Well, it is Spanish for "Little Hills".
It’s a city in California, all ships in the California class are named for places in California.
Sonja seems like an Easter egg
She's the engineer that spilled hot chocolate on Picard in TNG.
As always the best action scenes from famous series are from animation
As much as i love lower decks they could have just warped around the charged debri like theirs no way they couldnt have done that seeing as how it didnt surround the planet they were heading towards hell they could have gone around it at just impulse speed as well they had hours to save them
I havent seen all of LD so maybe ive missed it but how do you get from the saucer section to the engineering section? Through the pylons and nacelles?
Yes.
@@trowawayacc How?
@@ThePresident001 Turbolifts go through the pylons and down a long corridor that runs the length of the nacelle to get to Engineering.
I cannot believe it
Star Trek remembering why their ships have RCS thrusters for the first time in forever it feels
Wow, that warp nacelle just popped right off huh?
While i love this episode, and rank it as one of the best cliffhangers in Star Trek History. I don't get why they couldn't just go around the cloud
*Angry rambling begins*
It would probably take too long to go around it.
@@Pavel_M_Mihalik there's no way the cloud is moving faster than impulse speed,if that were the case, the problem of the episode would be to save the planet from incoming proyectiles at relativistic speeds
@@nekodesigner Speed isn’t the problem here, it’s almost static. The cloud takes up a sizeable part of the solar system between the Cerritos and the planet. It would simply take too long to go around it.
I'm pretty sure they established earlier in the episode that it would take too long to go around. IIRC it was in the order of hours.
I just realized something: Why don't the seats have seatbelts or some kind of seat bracers?
Because unlike exploration ships, the bridge is 2 decks down. The Cerretos had to intentionally carve out the viewscreen. They were too busy to install seatbelts at the same time.
@@rakaydosdraj8405 Ah, that makes perfect sense. I wonder why they didn't build them anyway in case of total power failure and gravity got turned off.
@@koanos2448They come next Tuesday
They finally animated the RCS! Woahhh!
Still not sue why the Cerritos couldn't have gone around the asteroids and just been waiting for the Archimedes at the planet.
2:15 One of the cutest Alien designs in the franchise
Not to sound overly grim, but I had an idea for the Archimedes: blow themselves up before they get too close to the planet. Sure they all die, but they don't smash into the atmosphere and risk an extinction-level event. Most of the ships mass would be flung away, and the smaller remaining bits may just burn up in the atmosphere. Still better than an entire ship. It would have been cool if they were considering sacrificing themselves for the innocents, and the Cerritos got there just in time.
I think they couldn't even do that. All the power was gone to the point they couldn't get to anything.
@@Igarappappa wouldn't the ship explode if the matter anti matter containtment bottle failed due to the sudden power loss from that EMP storm?
@@cosmeticscameo8277 I dunno.
It would be unlikely to work out in terms of real-world physics, at least. If none of the debris manages to be flung out of the gravity well, then all the mass and energy of the ship still ends up on the surface, whether it's in a single big piece or a cloud of smaller ones, and those are equally catastrophic. (And for every fragment accelerated to escape velocity, an equal amount of mass must be accelerated in the opposite direction.)
Its the "shotgun slug" vs "shotgun buckshot" thing, both will kill you, buckshot might take more time thou :)
This is still one of my favorite episodes.
Even if its a ship of goofballs the Ceritos is still starfleet.
Closes thing the Enterprise done that was this crazy was when Dr. Crusher flew it into a star to avoid Lore's Borg.
"Stable orbit"
Eh... more like parking brake applied.
Mariner and Jen make a great couple
Probably my favorite episode of lower decks.
"there's a chance you'll survive", really?, at 3million metric tonnes entering from orbit with only standard earth atmosphere to slow you down? No, an icicle in hell stands a better chance of surviving. Even assuming the ship mostly survives, the force on impact is going to turn the crew to jelly.
The word chance is key here. She was just trying to save anyone on her crew. Even if it was a .01% chance, it's still better than being on the bridge.
Dam it they still use inches!😂
only in casual conversation. Star Trek is an ISO future.
I wish this show would crossover with one of the other shows but the problem is that most of them is live action and I don’t know how something like that would work.
Strange New Worlds S2E7 "Those Old Scientists" give it a watch. It was BRILLIANT!
This should be in r/iwantplate
Lower Decks vs. Teen Titans Go
Great serie...
Can't believe they actually took a plot point from a Red Letter Media sketch and put it into an actual Star Trek show. This is insane.
Which one? Been a lot.
NICE Callback.
Gotta ❤ the DETAILS.
this may sound funny but who striped the Cerritos naked? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅
CBS
ehhh
is it just me or is this clearly a callback to ship in a bottle
how so?
It's out! Now?!
I don't want to be that pebble but... why the Cerritos didn't preformed an U trajectory so they couldn't go through the anomaly?... Just a silly 3D thinking...
It would take too long to fly around it. They needed to get to the Archimedes as quickly as possible, otherwise the planet would've been nuked by its warp core.
@@Pavel_M_Mihalik too long? they could've literally went warp 2.0 to overshoot the archimedes and circle back from the other side... with time to spare.
Kayshon suggested that and everyone jumped down his throat like it was *obviously* a non-viable solution. There may have been a logical reason, like the field producing an effect that meant warp fields wouldn't be stable. But the episode was also poking fun at the fact that using warp to go around something is a solution that's so often skipped.
@@3RayfireUsing warp to move within a star system was the solution in an episode of DS9 and they made it clear that it was an extremely dangerous and fraught solution even using the Defiant, I imagine a worn down workhorse like the Cerritos would have been even worse even before considering the additional hazard that they're by definition warping in right near a massive debris field and right next to a planet instead of just near a tiny shuttle
I... don´t even know where to begin with this. At the very least Mariner should not have survived this... rather odd and conveniet failure of her magnetic boots.
Without shields and the outer hull the major impacts should have crippled the Cerritos.
And there´s also no way ONE tractor beam could catch both the nacelle and the Archimedes. One can see the nacelle fall off and behind a fair bit... and then suddenly the nacelle is right next to the ship again? Also the Archimedes was already entering the atmosphere WITH all of its hull attached. Yet the Cerritos doesn´t even get a smidge of scorching - and just by stopping the Archimedes and NOT pulling her back up they suddenly are in a "stable orbit".
ANYONE who claims this is better than any of the other Trek series has neither taste nor enough active brain cells to even notice all those inconsistencies and plain bullsh** that happens here in just under 3 minutes.
And without shields the Voyager should've been torn apart by the binary pulsars it flew between to "cleanse" the Srivrani "doctors" that were experimenting on the crew. Or Starfleet makes her ships incredibly tough.
Why can't a tractor beam be set to wide enough catch more than one object? It isn't a linear beam, but conical. Conversely the Cerritos is a utility ship and subsequent episodes have shown that she has incredibly powerful tractor beams. The Nacelle actually wouldn't have moved that far away since it was on the same vector as the Archimedes and would have less drag. And the Cerritos wouldn't have any scorching, unlike the Archimedes she didn't enter the atmosphere in an uncontrolled dive at high speed. Stable Orbit also applies to "no longer crashing", since orbit is technically falling in a manner where you miss hitting the surface.
Perhaps people who have a different opinion from you aren't stupid, maybe you're just not considering all the possibilities.
@@3Rayfire We´ve had "wtf" moments in Trek... well, since the beginning.
My problem with Lower Decks is that in EVERY episode at least half of it is based on bulls*** moments. By comparison even the second season of Picard, as a whole, makes more sense than any episode of Lower Decks - this includes the Strange New Worlds crossover, although the BS-factor was reduced to about a total quarter due to SNWs influence.
"Inconsistent" is a base principle of Lower Decks, unlike everything else Trek that we had so far - again, this includes the second season of Picard, parts of Discovery and the entire classic Animated Series.
I can enjoy simple fun, but Lower Decks isn´t just that either. It tries to be serious and does have a few moments - which would not have happened or been required at all had it not been for one or several crew members to have done something so incredibly stupid that I wonder how any of those idiots made it out of Starfleet Academy with anything but a Janitor´s commission.
Lower Decks fails - for me - because it wants to dance on two very different parties. It knows the moves but the styles are so vastly apart that the mix it presents is just galactic event level moronic.
And the one thing I hate is when a presented universe not only contradicts itself and violates its rules but does so every few minutes, always.
For me Lower Decks will never be part of "normal" canon - its just way to idiotic for that, it doesn´t fit in any way.
@@robertmandl9326 While I don't think the problems are anywhere near as glaring as you see them (personally I see Voyager as the height of inconsistency) I can respect how you came to that conclusion. The show was basically terrible to me until the last two episodes of the first season. I do think it carries the spirit of Star Trek, and at the very least I feel the people who made it, love Star Trek.
Why did they shed the hull? Magnetism? Really..? It’s like this isn’t even trying to be a sci-fic anymore. We have the ability to depolarize our hulls now, which should be all they need to do.
Hulls always have a magnetic polarity. It's because of the ability to have a magnetic polarity that the asteroid field interacts in this unique way that damages a ship's computer systems.
@@SoranoGuardias Well the polarity is why magnetic mines used to be an issue, so they put metal coils around a ship’s hull and I believe that fixed the issue.
@@FurryEskimo the added effect of asteroid field that if anything the has power or magnetic draws them in and if it hits anything with power or magnetic it will cause a emp chain reacting
@@TheNovadragon223 Ok, but again, we can prevent the ship from having a magnetic field, without discharging power into the asteroids. Also, don’t they have a deflector shield? I’m guessing that wasn’t working, huh?
@@FurryEskimo You cannot prevent the ship from having a magnetic field. The ability to interact with a magnetic field is an intrinsic property that can only be dampened.
This episode was very exciting to watch.
This was excellently written, directed and paced.
Bronze ceritos looking fine