LOL, Lyn killed exactly 2 Riflemen the whole series.🤣So level 2 stomp + 2 shock wave + ensnare/lightening shield + 425 APM have the DPS to take out 2 Riflemen out of 9 Hey, guys, how do you like playing Vs a massed army of a single unit that is already one of the tankiest in the game, but with aura and spells, can have up to +14 armor.? The only game on ladder that I, as an Orc player, managed to beat Pally/Rifle was Vs a Human player that had 170 MMR lower than me, and I managed to expand and tech to taurens with lust. and it was still very close. I had to have taurens + pulverize + spirit link + bloodlust, AND spirit walker master training because I needed lots of mana to constantly dispell all the bloodlust that breakers lept stealing from me, and also because even with armor upgrade, spirit link and pulverize, the taurens were *barely* winning the fight Vs the riflemen, and dying to focused fire fast enough that I needed Ancestral Spirit to win. So basically, you need taurens + pulverize + bloodlust + spirit link and at least 4 master Spirit Walkers to beat an army of cheap tier 1 units that are unkillable and ranged, and even then you still need to micro the hell out of your taurens, shams and walkers as the Human just A-clicks everything to death with focused fire. It''s ridiculous. Facts: - Pally/Rifle is completely broken by virtue of the busted Devotion Aura and inner fire making riflemen literally unkillable. - Water elementals are way too strong for DPS, tankiness and the cooldown is too fast. Against Orc in particular, early tier 2 WE harrass Vs burrows is almost unstoppable since it is imnossible to have wood for reinforced that early. - Bash is broken . - Clap is broken. - Devotion Aura is broken(see Pally/Rifle) - Cyrocopters are way too good and easy to mass for how cheap they are. Gyrocopter bomb is a cheap upgrade that makes copters basically the best unit in WC3: a cheap unit that hard counters all air , is fast and has decent DPS Vs melee units. Insane. Here are LawLiet, FoCus and Laby talking about balance. While they disagree about how strong Orc and Undead are, all 3 of them agree that Human is the strongest and that Elf is the weakest. th-cam.com/video/0oebLwJgAaA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8GwTcwdVWCFzUKf9
@ did he explain why? Is he getting bored with the game now or thinks there is no future? The war3 esports scene is quite fragile. If a few big names drop from playing it could be the end of it pretty quickly
@ he married a very rich and pretty girl in China (I met them once ~10 yrs ago). So he technically doesn’t have to worry about money for this life. Maybe he wants a change in his career.
Taurens still not in the scene of orc race. Totally not used by players. Maybe some time limited speed on taurens movement would help and also some sort of magic imunity, otherwise they are useless. Give orc finally Tier 3 units that are usable.
Really feels like every Lyn vs Pala Rifle game is going well, until he decides to fight. I've literally only seen Orcs win twice by fighting the Pala Rifle, right after laming for some time, and about 20 times that they lost this way. Seems like you just have to force base trades, or at least threaten them, and win through your faster rotations + building kill + the fact that you worse the opponent into deathballing. Playing for fights doesn't really work, I've seen 35 supply Pala Rifle beat 55 supply top Orc.
Guyz. Im an UD player and audience. Overall, watching humans with almost limitless combinations of heroes, units, spells, buildings and strategies (like pally/r seen here) with an endless supply of resources, you start to feel that other races are just story figures for the game. Those races have next to zero chance, unless controlled by the most capable and skilled players. Besides, those players need to be on their top shape with out-of-this-world micro, punctual scouting, opponent-mind-reading, etc. We people aren't here for balance whining, but at least let us ask the question: Isn't the game turning into a circus? Isn't the scene forcing all players and pros into choosing only ONE race or giving up the game once and for all?
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Feels like Human & Undead have plenty options to create game or react. Orc & Elves can only suffer through battle (except Raider strategy).
LOL, Lyn killed exactly 2 Riflemen the whole series.🤣So level 2 stomp + 2 shock wave + ensnare/lightening shield
+ 425 APM have the DPS to take out 2 Riflemen out of 9
Hey, guys, how do you like playing Vs a massed army of a single unit that is already one of the tankiest in the game, but with aura and spells, can have up to +14 armor.?
The only game on ladder that I, as an Orc player, managed to beat Pally/Rifle was Vs a Human player that had 170 MMR lower than me, and I managed to expand and tech to taurens with lust. and it was still very close.
I had to have taurens + pulverize + spirit link + bloodlust, AND spirit walker master training because I needed lots of mana to constantly dispell all the bloodlust that breakers lept stealing from me, and also because even with armor upgrade, spirit link and pulverize, the taurens were *barely* winning the fight Vs the riflemen, and dying to focused fire fast enough that I needed Ancestral Spirit to win.
So basically, you need taurens + pulverize + bloodlust + spirit link and at least 4 master Spirit Walkers to beat an army of cheap tier 1 units that are unkillable and ranged, and even then you still need to micro the hell out of your taurens, shams and walkers as the Human just A-clicks everything to death with focused fire. It''s ridiculous.
Facts:
- Pally/Rifle is completely broken by virtue of the busted Devotion Aura and inner fire making riflemen literally unkillable.
- Water elementals are way too strong for DPS, tankiness and the cooldown is too fast. Against Orc in particular, early tier 2 WE harrass Vs burrows is almost unstoppable since it is imnossible to have wood for reinforced that early.
- Bash is broken .
- Clap is broken.
- Devotion Aura is broken(see Pally/Rifle)
- Cyrocopters are way too good and easy to mass for how cheap they are. Gyrocopter bomb is a cheap upgrade that makes copters basically the best unit in WC3: a cheap unit that hard counters all air , is fast and has decent DPS Vs melee units. Insane.
Here are LawLiet, FoCus and Laby talking about balance. While they disagree about how strong Orc and Undead are, all 3 of them agree that Human is the strongest and that Elf is the weakest.
th-cam.com/video/0oebLwJgAaA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8GwTcwdVWCFzUKf9
Someone kidnapped the real Lyn yo
During his streaming, Lyn said he would not practice regularly anymore. So he is in a semi-retired mode
@ did he explain why? Is he getting bored with the game now or thinks there is no future?
The war3 esports scene is quite fragile. If a few big names drop from playing it could be the end of it pretty quickly
@@dantonkull6491 he has 2 kids and is 38 yrs old. So a lot of family obligation
@@lynzhu6934 his obligation is to provide for his family, thus he needs to play more :D
@ he married a very rich and pretty girl in China (I met them once ~10 yrs ago). So he technically doesn’t have to worry about money for this life. Maybe he wants a change in his career.
Taurens still not in the scene of orc race. Totally not used by players. Maybe some time limited speed on taurens movement would help and also some sort of magic imunity, otherwise they are useless. Give orc finally Tier 3 units that are usable.
nerf pala rifle its mega strong... starbuck win vs happy lyn best ud and orc .
Reminds me of mass Headhunters meta (Soin) vs Happy...
Really feels like every Lyn vs Pala Rifle game is going well, until he decides to fight. I've literally only seen Orcs win twice by fighting the Pala Rifle, right after laming for some time, and about 20 times that they lost this way.
Seems like you just have to force base trades, or at least threaten them, and win through your faster rotations + building kill + the fact that you worse the opponent into deathballing. Playing for fights doesn't really work, I've seen 35 supply Pala Rifle beat 55 supply top Orc.
Amazing second game
41:00 why is lyn leaving ?! there was no chance ?
No need to watch Pala rifle play
HHS suck. Every time I’ve seen them being played they’ve lost. Besides a few very lucky or random games. They’re not the answer to paly rifle clearly
nerf hu
All he needed to do was TP from the slow trap in game 2, easy win.
Does anyone have a description for the correct BO for pala rifler
Starbuck game is so boring to watch
Guyz. Im an UD player and audience.
Overall, watching humans with almost limitless combinations of heroes, units, spells, buildings and strategies (like pally/r seen here) with an endless supply of resources, you start to feel that other races are just story figures for the game.
Those races have next to zero chance, unless controlled by the most capable and skilled players. Besides, those players need to be on their top shape with out-of-this-world micro, punctual scouting, opponent-mind-reading, etc.
We people aren't here for balance whining, but at least let us ask the question: Isn't the game turning into a circus? Isn't the scene forcing all players and pros into choosing only ONE race or giving up the game once and for all?
Base trade
With the raiders Lynn should have done that
Archmage op
Stop rubbing your nose 👃 24/7 🤣😂
I was rubbing my nose when reading this comment.
bro who's playing from lyn's account?