Alright, Dom and Yamato. I have been a fan of you both for a long time (Bjergsen and Tayvon Solo Queue games + Yamato coaching vit). I'm an aussie bloke who watches whilst high as a kite. The intro scares me to death everytime i tune in a 12-2am. Plz reduce the scary sounds 🙏
Saying Mikyx is the EU supp goat is like saying Faker is the goat. There is no debate about it no matter how much the delusional Hyli fans want to rewrite every time he miraculously performs one split out of 5.
@@brando5092 Miky has been sacked and is being replaced by Labrov, and he's going to Fnatic with Upset as his ADC, courtesy of Sheep Esports (basically confirmed)
@@radekhruby142 so you really think EU best bottom Hansama + MikyX scarier than Viper + Delight, Peyz + Lehends, Beryl + Deft, Aiming + Kellin/Moham? What
Brother Dom, why didn't you ask Mikyx why he didn't join Los Ratones to make a Slovenian League team with Nemesis and Crownie... Now that would be cinema.
100% agree with mikyx when he talks about players at worlds. before worlds everyone seemed shaky enough and nobody was completely dumpstering on the competition like Ruler was last year. even this worlds all the supports bar keria felt pretty shit
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg Caps and BB were equal to their opposition. So was Inspired in FLY. If you want to go into arguable territory, Mikyx and Hans in G2 were competing imo. So was the entire FLY squad vs Gen G. Sure, FNC and MAD collapsed, as well as TL (and obviously 100 thieves), but G2 and FLY were competitive imo. Hell, G2/FLY with a better draw could have made semis. Weibo did
@@marcosa2000i dont think bb looked particularly great in summer and summer finals, there was the mad lions series where he unironically got gapped pretty hard by myrwn, and it was honestly pretty hard to say g2 was good before worlds since they won every game from bizarre and losing game states in EU
@@Nryan-ks5tz G2 had a slump in summer, yes. Even with that slump they won all titles. BB was a monster all year aside from that slump. He beat Breathe and did very well against Bin at Worlds, which imo should be rated higher than summer. Idk why you think that makes BB bad
@@marcosa2000 Equal lol? Caps was really awful at worlds who routinely got caught pre 6 and ended up trolling in clutch team fights. BB was w.e. Inspired lost the early game to most of the junglers. He did nothing as well.
I think LEC just needs to learn from FLY and play their own style regardless of meta. They don’t have the opportunity to compete against super skilled teams on a regular basis. ON, Delight, and Keria will almost always win in a standard meta matchup (even tanks).
Even when Faker is "at his weakest" he still plays vs Chovy, Zeka, Showmaker and Bdd and not Humanoid(?) and who else is even there?...it's easier to look bad, that's all (+adc mid meta come on)
That’s why I will never understand how they can put LEC players above LCK players in their rankings in this day and age. It’s not 2018-2020. LEC and LCK are not close in level. T1 players not looking good vs the best players in the world is not the same as Caps smurfing on freskowy. Im sure Faker would look good playing ranged mid laners while drunk against freskowy
@@radekhruby142 Both BB and Bwipo played better than most asian top laners beside Kiin Zeus and Bin I think BB proved that he was better than 369 at MSI and even at Worlds BB was pretty good and 369 was super bad.
no, but you have to understand even if they know the guest sometimes the stories are new for them so they can often repeat stuff we as listeners have heard. He talks to them not to us so I would say that's why it happens a lot lol
Dom is so hellbent on trying to force the narrative that MSI is a higher quality tournament than Worlds because the LPL haven't won it 3 years lol. Just because we saw a few more Bo5s (mostly between teams that had already played each other) at MSi, it doesn't mean it's of higher quality. The worlds winner is always better than the MSI winner of the same year.
Everyone is playing safe in double elimination, I hate how they aren't playing 100% in upper bracket then tryhard when in lower bracket, what's the point anyway if they won't try to use their strategies in upper. It would've been the same if they do single. And if you play your key strategies in upper, you will be punished like TES
rubish son. stop trying to make up ways to turn it into your own favor. double elim is always better ALWAYS. then dumb draws make less impact. you actually have to beat some good teams to get into the finals instead of worlds where you could COULD get in there without facing real competition. weve had bad final matchups in worlds so many times where and underdog comes in and does absolutely nothing. atelast with double elim if the underdog comes there , they have had to prove themselves. so stop hating on people because you dont like them because its drippin of this energy. i think its time we get our real names on the internet that saves the world of some gruesome posts aswell as people can face consequences way easier.
It’s wild how glazed the LEC still gets by “analysts” when they have zero recent results to back it up. But yeah, surely they still matter because of one fluke season nearly 6 years ago
@@eidamgouda0609 probaly u dont see any IWD / Yamato player tier list. They even put CoreJJ over Faker, he was somewhere 42th or 48th. Even if he is the worst player of LCK, there is no way he is 40+ player at world
@@LongTran-yu5zv Yea, I’ve seen there tierlists and even tho Faker wasn’t playing well before worlds I still wouldn’t agree with them putting him that low and they were exception lowkey
@@eidamgouda0609 It's not only just Faker, it all about hyping / overating LPL than the whole LCK 2022, 2023, even 2024 that's all trash list. And T1 has been proving this for over 10 years. Looking for all other stats instead of T1 9/9 Semies, 7 Finals, 5 Champion is really hilarious. He even put BLG over GenG after their lost as MSI, GenG over HLE after LCK Summer, FULLY BIAS RANKING, that makes other team's archivement like SH*T. HLE won GEnG, #1 and ranked below GenG, GenG won BLG MSI and ranked below BLG, and some random Na player like CoreJJ even above Faker, the problem is he didnt stand any point. It keeps changing no matter what just to downgrade other teams. Since 2022, LPL#6 could win world, LPL by far strongest region, LPL brings world 4 seed #1, and we do know what happens the next 2 years. Im not even Korean nor Chinese but i really really hate his content. He flamed any single Korean import whenever LPL lost except Ruler
I can't believe we're still asking if Mikyx is better than Keria, you'd think that winning worlds would settle it but man these G2 fanboys are ruthless. Edit : 3 worlds finals and winning it back to back
They said that they thought Mikyx would be better than Keria in a melee sp meta where sp has no agency. Even in the first half of this World, melee sp was a common pick. I think it is true considering Keria looked terrible on engage sp last summer.
@@semitemos1727 I see your point, but they're clearly saying "we rated you higher than keria" and nothing about the meta. And still, after the conclusion of a tournament where miky didn't really perform to his best meanwhile keria is making tournament winning plays, they still said that it's up for debate.
@@mohammednakhil2886 they couldnt do it more obvious in their delivery, they are very obviously joking (reference to player rankings coming into worlds 2023 where Caedrel and Yamato put Mikyx over Keria and they got proven wrong and the entire community made fun of them because of this) Idk why cant you just take a break and laugh at jokes instead of doing whatever this is
Dom mega coping about how “Upsets 10th place finish didn’t really count because once they lost that first game it was over”. No. People forget videos of him storming out of the room after a loss. He gave up on that team. Upset is insane but this “Oh well none of his 10th place finishes were his fault and they didn’t count anyway because I don’t think they should” is just a joke.
This guy is delusional 😂 he does realize he plays in the LEC and was on G2. His trophies are just participation awards. In the worst meta for T1 at MSI they got eliminated 3-0 by T1 🤣 let’s see if he’s this confident next year when he doesn’t have caps to save him when he’s running it down.
I don't think the meta was bad, T1 just figured out how to play swaps and counter adc meta more effectively throughout the end of the year. Sure it was nerfed but T1 did beat BLG who played Smolder and Ziggs. I hate how T1 plays standard throughout the year even tho swaps and adc was the meta but They got ddos'd so there was really no room for practice.
He is a big reason why G2 is good. Compare them with Mikyx and with Targamas. Night and day. Mikyx is important for G2 just like Lehends is important for GENG. They can’t just play a bum and perform as well. And btw at MSI when G2 3-0d TES. Mikyx was their best player. Mikyx is extremely good when he performs. He’s just inconsistent. And he’s obviously not Keria level aswell. But still the western support goat (fighting with CoreJJ)
bwipo finally let dom talk again
Dom didn’t talk by choice….
And the shows sucks now. Dom was much better last show
@@bensonvong The bwipo show was probably the only sack down show i couldnt complete 🤣
@@SillanJunioryeah I agree. In general I don't think yamato adds much to the show. I'd rather have thorin and dom instead.
Happy to see DOM, I missed him during last episode
As a g2 fan, miky we will miss you.
17:50 bro legit asked him how are you gonna stop FNC from being boosted after 15 mins
D d
Mikyx is the answer
dom sipping on that ratirl cup confirmed connections with L9 mafia boss
rat literally used to be on dom's costreams
i see miky, i clicky
SIMPLE AS THAT #MIKYXGOAT
Alright, Dom and Yamato. I have been a fan of you both for a long time (Bjergsen and Tayvon Solo Queue games + Yamato coaching vit). I'm an aussie bloke who watches whilst high as a kite. The intro scares me to death everytime i tune in a 12-2am. Plz reduce the scary sounds 🙏
I am in your walls
real asf, i listen to this podcast to sleep and sometimes the intro wakes me up at night :(
MIKY IS MY SUPPORT GOAT LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
So like everyones? 😂
Thanks for the video gentleman!! Was great to have a live interview with an active pro player like miky!!
46:28 hahahah you can see the exact moment on Dom's face when he thought of that joke
is this a piglet reference?
@@vicious-nu him being old reference
EU SUP GOAT. I can never believe in Fnatic to win a split nowadays, but I'm sure Miky will make people regret their disrespect
Saying Mikyx is the EU supp goat is like saying Faker is the goat. There is no debate about it no matter how much the delusional Hyli fans want to rewrite every time he miraculously performs one split out of 5.
Just 2 different eras. Both were the best in their time
@@HibijibiCraft they played in the same era
2017-current
Hyli has had some better years but overall Miky is better
Maybe could have waited with this one until the official team announcements HAHA
Why would they, if you think there's even a slight chance Miky won't play for Fnatic yoy are delusional
Why what happened
@@brando5092 Miky has been sacked and is being replaced by Labrov, and he's going to Fnatic with Upset as his ADC, courtesy of Sheep Esports (basically confirmed)
That was the joke
Spotify listener here, banger interview. Loving this series. Keep it up!
it was fun while it lasted 😭
Miky X better than Keria 2 years in a row by all the Analysts should be a meme by now
It is already
MIKYX OVER KERIA AINTNOWAY
Last year, coming into worlds I think it was true. This year nah, but Keria wasn't really doing well in LCK either
@@radekhruby142 so you really think EU best bottom Hansama + MikyX scarier than Viper + Delight, Peyz + Lehends, Beryl + Deft, Aiming + Kellin/Moham?
What
@@LongTran-yu5zv Did i say that lol?
24:58 smile
Mikyx hitting the reaper pose in the thumbnail 🔫 🔫
Good to hear Yamato is a fellow flex enjoyer
The worst queue 😂 not surprise yamato likes it. Here he can get boosted by 4 players simultaneously.
Brother Dom, why didn't you ask Mikyx why he didn't join Los Ratones to make a Slovenian League team with Nemesis and Crownie... Now that would be cinema.
Mikyx over Keria, that grudge never ends lmfao
Lets go, Mikyx! This is going to be great
ah yes, my favourite LEC pro - MIKYN
great Question @ 51:48 . nice pod guys
Hey @Thorin you got your wishes, Doran to T1 and Zeus got to HLE LMAO
What book is it? 39:00
We are so fucking back.
100% agree with mikyx when he talks about players at worlds. before worlds everyone seemed shaky enough and nobody was completely dumpstering on the competition like Ruler was last year. even this worlds all the supports bar keria felt pretty shit
EU players were a lot worse from all positions tho.
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg Caps and BB were equal to their opposition. So was Inspired in FLY.
If you want to go into arguable territory, Mikyx and Hans in G2 were competing imo. So was the entire FLY squad vs Gen G. Sure, FNC and MAD collapsed, as well as TL (and obviously 100 thieves), but G2 and FLY were competitive imo. Hell, G2/FLY with a better draw could have made semis. Weibo did
@@marcosa2000i dont think bb looked particularly great in summer and summer finals, there was the mad lions series where he unironically got gapped pretty hard by myrwn, and it was honestly pretty hard to say g2 was good before worlds since they won every game from bizarre and losing game states in EU
@@Nryan-ks5tz G2 had a slump in summer, yes. Even with that slump they won all titles. BB was a monster all year aside from that slump. He beat Breathe and did very well against Bin at Worlds, which imo should be rated higher than summer. Idk why you think that makes BB bad
@@marcosa2000 Equal lol? Caps was really awful at worlds who routinely got caught pre 6 and ended up trolling in clutch team fights. BB was w.e. Inspired lost the early game to most of the junglers. He did nothing as well.
1:55:02 Yamato talking like he wasn't on the same team with Ap0 back in the day
So because of Jankos we didn't get Miky and Hyli bot lane, I'm officially numba 1 Jankos hater now.
I think LEC just needs to learn from FLY and play their own style regardless of meta. They don’t have the opportunity to compete against super skilled teams on a regular basis. ON, Delight, and Keria will almost always win in a standard meta matchup (even tanks).
drop the book link man😜
TYEAM MIKYX FOR LIFE #FNCWIN
Yamato - Miky synergy is 🎉🔥◻️🙃🦇🦇
Haha, banger intro by dom😂
no question on caps?
Even when Faker is "at his weakest" he still plays vs Chovy, Zeka, Showmaker and Bdd and not Humanoid(?) and who else is even there?...it's easier to look bad, that's all (+adc mid meta come on)
That’s why I will never understand how they can put LEC players above LCK players in their rankings in this day and age.
It’s not 2018-2020. LEC and LCK are not close in level.
T1 players not looking good vs the best players in the world is not the same as Caps smurfing on freskowy.
Im sure Faker would look good playing ranged mid laners while drunk against freskowy
@@aaawa2074 Caps didn't even smurf. He looked awful in LEC and even getting gapped by Freskowy.
@@aaawa2074 For majority players its true. But if you look at BBs performance I would take him over few asian tops in a heartbeat
@@radekhruby142 Both BB and Bwipo played better than most asian top laners beside Kiin Zeus and Bin
I think BB proved that he was better than 369 at MSI and even at Worlds BB was pretty good and 369 was super bad.
Because Caps was literally better than Faker at MSI earlier this year. You know, when they played each other twice?
Does Yamato need to mention his series from 10 years ago every episode?
no, but you have to understand even if they know the guest sometimes the stories are new for them so they can often repeat stuff we as listeners have heard. He talks to them not to us so I would say that's why it happens a lot lol
Just tell me you didn't do shit in life and hate yourself man
That intro lmao
Mikyx best support cos he one tricks Poppy and Naut
Michael X lfg
Nice
dom really tried to in 3 different occasions in the same episode to downplay worlds 😂 bro is so salty
Fownplah
Well, its the tournament with the worst format by far
LOwer the intro volume
Mikyx knows that FAKER is the big deal
Mikyx is so handsome😜
Dom is so hellbent on trying to force the narrative that MSI is a higher quality tournament than Worlds because the LPL haven't won it 3 years lol. Just because we saw a few more Bo5s (mostly between teams that had already played each other) at MSi, it doesn't mean it's of higher quality. The worlds winner is always better than the MSI winner of the same year.
MSI is the only thing dom is hyping nowadays because its where t1 struggled the most😂
Everyone is playing safe in double elimination, I hate how they aren't playing 100% in upper bracket then tryhard when in lower bracket, what's the point anyway if they won't try to use their strategies in upper. It would've been the same if they do single. And if you play your key strategies in upper, you will be punished like TES
rubish son.
stop trying to make up ways to turn it into your own favor.
double elim is always better ALWAYS.
then dumb draws make less impact.
you actually have to beat some good teams to get into the finals instead of worlds where you could COULD get in there without facing real competition.
weve had bad final matchups in worlds so many times where and underdog comes in and does absolutely nothing.
atelast with double elim if the underdog comes there , they have had to prove themselves.
so stop hating on people because you dont like them because its drippin of this energy.
i think its time we get our real names on the internet that saves the world of some gruesome posts aswell as people can face consequences way easier.
@@arcofokker competition was made not to give 2nd chances. Just saying
@@arcofokker Iwd´s dog
35:00 is what I've been saying
They would have won MSI in 2020 with Caps bot considering the teams that won Spring in LCK/LPL were pretty bad.
support goat banger
No. His name is not Keria.
@@Nora-c4y t1 fans try not to make it about "their" team challenge! (impossible)
@@j4vii_c Cry more, don't use GOAT for anything and everything
@@j4vii_cat least eu fans claiming all the glory when they proved nothing. NRG and FLY is better than G2
@@j4vii_c Mikyx doesn't even touch top 10.
It’s wild how glazed the LEC still gets by “analysts” when they have zero recent results to back it up. But yeah, surely they still matter because of one fluke season nearly 6 years ago
Who the hell is glazing lec compare to lck or lpl? Everyone is saying that lpl/lck is just better, so don’t know what are you talking about wtf
@@eidamgouda0609 probaly u dont see any IWD / Yamato player tier list. They even put CoreJJ over Faker, he was somewhere 42th or 48th.
Even if he is the worst player of LCK, there is no way he is 40+ player at world
@@LongTran-yu5zv Yea, I’ve seen there tierlists and even tho Faker wasn’t playing well before worlds I still wouldn’t agree with them putting him that low and they were exception lowkey
@@eidamgouda0609 It's not only just Faker, it all about hyping / overating LPL than the whole LCK
2022, 2023, even 2024 that's all trash list. And T1 has been proving this for over 10 years. Looking for all other stats instead of T1 9/9 Semies, 7 Finals, 5 Champion is really hilarious.
He even put BLG over GenG after their lost as MSI, GenG over HLE after LCK Summer, FULLY BIAS RANKING, that makes other team's archivement like SH*T. HLE won GEnG, #1 and ranked below GenG, GenG won BLG MSI and ranked below BLG, and some random Na player like CoreJJ even above Faker, the problem is he didnt stand any point. It keeps changing no matter what just to downgrade other teams.
Since 2022, LPL#6 could win world, LPL by far strongest region, LPL brings world 4 seed #1, and we do know what happens the next 2 years. Im not even Korean nor Chinese but i really really hate his content. He flamed any single Korean import whenever LPL lost except Ruler
MikyN
👍
Miky ego a bit unchained in some of the segments here
MikyX > Keria
get a new cam dom, it sucks
I can't believe we're still asking if Mikyx is better than Keria, you'd think that winning worlds would settle it but man these G2 fanboys are ruthless.
Edit : 3 worlds finals and winning it back to back
No one thinks Mikyx is better than Keria, plz T1 fans stop being annoying and creating imaginary enemies , ty.
@@MrPabloam92 literally 30 seconds into the show. You didn't even watch the first minute buddy.
I'm writing this in my T1 Oner jersey btw
They said that they thought Mikyx would be better than Keria in a melee sp meta where sp has no agency. Even in the first half of this World, melee sp was a common pick. I think it is true considering Keria looked terrible on engage sp last summer.
@@semitemos1727 I see your point, but they're clearly saying "we rated you higher than keria" and nothing about the meta. And still, after the conclusion of a tournament where miky didn't really perform to his best meanwhile keria is making tournament winning plays, they still said that it's up for debate.
@@mohammednakhil2886 they couldnt do it more obvious in their delivery, they are very obviously joking (reference to player rankings coming into worlds 2023 where Caedrel and Yamato put Mikyx over Keria and they got proven wrong and the entire community made fun of them because of this)
Idk why cant you just take a break and laugh at jokes instead of doing whatever this is
Please, the intro is TOO LOUD
Not loud enough for such a banger
Trash take 😂😂
I'll tell alistar
respect the cowbell
Yeah it bangs your head to the wall@@DarkorbitForever12
LOL...is he better than Keria? LOL...ur telling me that u would take this giliy over Keria if u had the choice? Yes right.
Meaning of life is 42 and Faker was ranked 42, I guess it was fate.
Dom mega coping about how “Upsets 10th place finish didn’t really count because once they lost that first game it was over”.
No. People forget videos of him storming out of the room after a loss. He gave up on that team.
Upset is insane but this “Oh well none of his 10th place finishes were his fault and they didn’t count anyway because I don’t think they should” is just a joke.
Leaving when dom talks about “t1 fan narratives”
This guy is delusional 😂 he does realize he plays in the LEC and was on G2. His trophies are just participation awards. In the worst meta for T1 at MSI they got eliminated 3-0 by T1 🤣 let’s see if he’s this confident next year when he doesn’t have caps to save him when he’s running it down.
I don't think the meta was bad, T1 just figured out how to play swaps and counter adc meta more effectively throughout the end of the year. Sure it was nerfed but T1 did beat BLG who played Smolder and Ziggs. I hate how T1 plays standard throughout the year even tho swaps and adc was the meta but They got ddos'd so there was really no room for practice.
He is a big reason why G2 is good. Compare them with Mikyx and with Targamas. Night and day.
Mikyx is important for G2 just like Lehends is important for GENG. They can’t just play a bum and perform as well.
And btw at MSI when G2 3-0d TES. Mikyx was their best player.
Mikyx is extremely good when he performs. He’s just inconsistent. And he’s obviously not Keria level aswell. But still the western support goat (fighting with CoreJJ)
SO SAD he joins the chokers
Mikyx world class support 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂