Here's Why You Will NEVER see NBA 2K24's Best Version..
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For the 4th consecutive year, there will be no next gen upgrade to NBA 2K on the PC.
Here I discuss why that's happening, and how the community is losing out because of it.
Everytime 2k season comes around, I watch that video you made about VC ruining the game. It’s still relevant.
Facts what happened to them investing resources in my league and mygm
@@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindopeit don’t make them money why would they care
@@iblfx8873 yea facts and they have no competition either
What makes it worse is how little vc u can make by playing the game
@@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindopelike eras?
It’s crazy how indie devs with 3 people can intergrate multiple anti cheats but a billion dollar company such as 2K can’t lmfao insane
FRFR
2K doesn’t care about making their product better for us, they just want their money and they know they’ll get it every release
Try 7 billion. It's a damn shame.
They’re lazy
Thank you Dom for being the only big voice for the PC 2k community. As someone who can't force himself to play the vanilla version, i will die on the hill of modded 2k, even if i have to play 2k23 for the rest of my days. Sadly, the majority of users simply don't care all that much about realism, which is understandable too.
I mean even if they start to put next gen version on PC, I highly believe mods would still be there.. so could be even better experience. imagine that. we're really missing out and 2k still ask for full price is pure robbery.
ive always played 2k on the ps3,4,5 but im interested and a fan on the mods that are available on pc , and to be honest the "next gen" consoles just dont make 2k look or feel next gen unlike pc
@@Lewiss248 yes, it's crazy to label something as next gen while having players who are built like an average 40 year old dad and have inaccurate faces
What mods are you using?
How do you get mods? I’m getting back into gaming
As a programmer I can tell u that making a next gen game on pc wouldn't be difficult programmers are taught to make code readable and reusable so this is definitely an issue of money and laziness that's causing them to waste time
Yeah I feel console would be way more frustrating than PC to program
I mean they make the game on PC, all to not port it on the very same device they made the entire game on, lol
They do it because pc users like to mod and hack. People that use pc and do that are scum and hood back the rest of the pc community
@@Rufusdadoofus that's actually the opposite since there are hundreds of different PC hardware unlike consoles there are only 1 or 2 versions of it (base and pro version of console) but honestly not an excuse that 2k still won't port the next gen features on PC.
@@sebastiangonzales46 I just felt like that no one programs on consoles to begin with so it would be easier on PC
I know people joke on NBA Live but I realllyyyy hope it comes back at some point in the next few years, especially seeing how they made that post about canceling 20 and focusing on next gen just to ghost us, a live release (preferably for a cheap price) would at least put some pressure on 2K
The issue is there owned by the same company right? So there’s no reason for them to do it?
@@typhlosionproductions5970 NBA Live is owned by EA, NBA 2k is owned by TakeTwo
Their presentation is miles ahead of 2k. My league players will gladly make the switch.
Plz come back home 😢
The issue is EA has no interest in competition. They want to make as much money as possible while putting in as little effort as possible. If they cant compete with 2K while also putting in minimal effort, they just wont compete at all
2k23 was my first 2k game and I was so mad when I found out it was missing all the features that made me wanna buy it in the first place, but the modding community saved the game for me. The modding community for this game is incredible.
Yessaa mods saved us 🙏🙏
FINALLY someone on the 2K Platform has talked about the disrespect 2K has been doing on the PC
They don’t want hackers ruining the game
@@ActuallynotTrey lazy ass reason, Rocket Leauge has cross platform pc to console and is free to play, much less revenue than nba2k
@@thatkidfromthatshow to be fair, how you do you even hack in rocket league 🤣
@@BEDCORN Autogoal and bigger hitboxes already exist, they just don't go into ranked because they invest in anticheat
@@ActuallynotTrey its a lazy excuse. They don't want to put in the effort to combat hackers. There are tons of games cross platform with PC without that issue.
some of us are just PC gamers my guy, last console I had was SEGA Genesis. buying console + subscription just for one game isn't worth it. there are lots of hoopers like me in Europe.
4:40 I'm a long retired modder at this point but seeing my 2k77 again almost 3 years later was kinda surreal
Possibly a bit off-topic, but I have no idea how 2k and sports games in general are allowed to continue with such an archaic yearly release model while releasing the same game with new features. That’s a $70 software update every year as it stands. The game should’ve been converted to live-service a long time ago, while dropping at most 1 game per generation to update the visuals.
Because it's lucrative
Because people still buy it. why stop when every year the game still sells 10+ million copies
Works for most of the annual FPS games. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's purely because the idiots that do buy it continue to buy it, doing more and more damage to the industry as a whole by rewarding this regurgitated BS year after year.
Why more and more people would rather play Fortnite or GTA for years and years.
Thank you for being a voice for the PC community. It's crazy that PC outperforms PS5 and they won't give us Next gen
2k doesn't want people to have next gen on PC because mods would give us easy roster updates forever.
It’s so annoying. Playing 2k21 on PC was the most fun I’ve had with the game since 2k16. The next gen version is awesome, but I wont buy another one until they get it on PC. If they never do, I’ll go back to buying 2k once every 3-5 years again 😂
Sadly they'll just use the poor sales numbers as an excuse to stop making the PC version.
Does anyone else think these games have reached their peak?? Other than seeing new rookies and players come in, these games aren’t entertaining at all!!
Fr, I only get them cause my friends do
They are getting more realistic animation 😅
They focus so much on the online aspect but the games aren't fun to play head to head. NFL Street was more fun to play head to head than any Madden made in the last 15 years.
Just speak volumes on the goals of 2k. Look at the efforts the PC community puts it. When I use to play myleague mode, I remember there was always ppl that made rosters with the most realistic, detailed stats, player and team tendencies, etc. You have shadymike who use to do the jumpshot fixes cause 2k would just guess. Of course myleague and the offline modes dont generate any revenue so it doesnt make any sense to care much about it from the business standpoint but it just shows how 2k will never be the same. The gameplay, and online issues are a whole other issue that requires a paragraph in itself lol
MyLeague doesn’t exist anymore and MyNBA was the best aspect of 2k23 and the best sim mode in basketball gaming history
They can't profit on PC releases, people on that platform actually have a brain to know VC is BS and bypassing them using mods lmao.
Once the PS4 and Xbox One gets sunset'd, that'll be it for NBA 2k on the PC. I think NBA 2k25 is probably the last 2k on PC.
It's funny that this is around the time EA Sports is putting more effort on the PC. Madden 24 will be current gen on PC as will EA Sports FC.
They are putting crossplay at the forefront of all the marketing as if it's some feature never seen before in any video game
It's genuinely because 2K hasn't cared about or prioritized making a "great game" since 2009. They did have some great 2ks since 2009 but the loss of competition hurt consumers.
Removal of game modes.
Completely broken and unusable features that never get patched.
No F2P options for either of there micro-transaction heavy game modes.
I could go on.
2k12 was a great game and came out in 2011 so you’re not far off but still wrong
@@ViolentKknight did you give up after reading the first 15 words buddy?
@@drumusic5665 2k13 was when they added micro transactions so what I said stands. You contradicted yourself by saying they haven’t made a great game and then in the next line saying they did have some great 2ks after that
@@ViolentKknight what are you on about? Me, sourcing you back to the original comment you failed to properly read is not me contradicting myself.
If I never said they had great games since 2009 and then responded with adding that information then absolutely that is contradicting.
But *I already said this*
I didn't contradict anything, you failed to process what was written for you.
In 2010 2K got exclusive rights, that was the end of 2K focusing on making great basketball games.
I also said they had great games since then which very much includes the early 2010s 2K games.
Why? because you don't in 1, 2 or even 3 years get to how poorly ran 2K is in it's current state.
It takes staff turnover, culture shift, changing business strategies.
For example if I stopped working out right now it would be the end of me *caring or prioritizing* my body.
I could still have a couple great years of going out, having fun and dating.
But eventually I will get fat and sick because of that day I stopped being active.
Also I never said micro-transactions ruined 2k...
Prioritizing micro-transaction riddled game modes while not adapting your sales method was what I criticized.
@@drumusic5665 you’re genuinely dumb and edited your comment. You said they stopped making great games and then said twice now that since then they have made great games. That’s a contradiction, should be next to the word in the dictionary as an example. I’m not going to read all that after you contradicted yourself a second time
PC community is better, you can actually make open layups without your teammates standing outta bounds
its so annoying man, the worst part is when you complain about this people will just say "you guys are hackers nobody wants to play with yall" WHEN WE ARE FINE WITHOUT CROSSPLAY
Dom speaking on 2K👀
It is crazy how a game made in a computer does not have the same feature seen in console. In the 4th consecutive years.
listen.... ur not gonna believe this but in 2k25-
THE WAIT IS OVER 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yes it is
I only have a PC, I don't give a shit about consoles and don't want to buy a console just to play 2k it's so frustrating
Man we've been doing the mynba eras long before 2k20, i remember the 2k13 NLSC forums had rosters for each year plus drafts and correct schedules.
And i bet its been a thing since before that, still nice having it in game though
Dom2k emulates a Nintendo game
Rom2k
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>2k is trying to kill the PC version
Yep. We've been theorizing this since 2k22 and it's true, it's a shame. An absolute shame.
I'm glad you're covering this topic and spreading the word though, the demand needs to go up
Thanks for dropping this video bro - it's much needed
I was just surfing around Dom2K's channel, and now he finally drops a vid? wow, talk about timing
5:30 sadly even Rockstar has stopped keeping PC parity with Current Gen. PC still gets the big content updates but it is missing some content that is specific to current gen like Hao's Auto shop
I've been preaching for the past two months that 2K should give the community some type of creator tools, pretty much what Fortnite does with Fortnite Creative. Fortnite pretty much will never run out of content as long as they keep giving their playerbase the tools to create whatever modes they want. Imagine 2K gave us tools to create our own park mode with different rules, our own custom parks etc and there's a community tab so you can see who's creation is being most played. If they do that, then maybe the game wouldn't die after the first month and people could be incentivized to keep buying vc.
Lmfao Dom’s outta pocket for that Homelander cameo
You the goat for speaking on this
Personally I've been waiting for PC to release again because I bought a PC instead of the next gen consoles. Feeling bummed again this year
What about those of us who don't own consoles? I only game on PC and I don't use mods. I just want to play the best game. Also all the online content is for next gen at this point. Any time you look up builds, bad recs, or take overs you basically have to look at last year's version.
2K24 is the first 2K I haven't bought since the series came over to PC
The Dom 2K20 legends league and sim was special, when that full legends league finals series vs the heat being reuploaded?🤣
I have bought and played at launch on PC every year since 2k16. This is my first year I'm going to skip. I just prefer to play on PC and don't have any consoles. Luckily I will be busy with Starfield when 2k24 launches.
The PC version doesn't even have a storyline
Yes
2k23 does and 24 doesn't
I wish 2k had the same kind of modding community games like Skyrim have because i've tried modding 2k and it's just so not user friendly, the websites are shady as hell and I can't tell which ones are actually good to download mods off of, you don't have something like a Nexus or a ModDB. As far as I can tell too there isn't any kind of mod menu/manager either, I'd be tempted to download a ton of cyberfaces but I don't want to replace some files, have them break something, then reinstall the game
I suspect this is the console’s doing, as why would you buy an XBOX or a PS5 if you can get the best version on PC.
Been part of the modding community since 2K13, I still to this day have more hours in 2K14 on my PC over any other game just based on roster modding keeps the game alive
Kinda hyped for 2K25 on PC now that it's gonna drop as a next-gen game. No crossplay though, I imagine it because these assholes do be cheating.
another thing to take into account alot of those pc sales are probably picked up on sale. Personally i was getting the console version at launch then when the game was dying down i would get it on the steam sale for a much lower price.
Dom I fuck with you, I fuck with this video, but I ultimately think it's a waste of time. As long as 2K continues to make money hand over fist with VC any and all requests are null and void. I bought every 2k game from 2K11 to 2K 19 day one, then bought 20, 21 late and second hand because I didn't want to support 2K. Now I don't even think about buying the game anymore, and play other games. I got tired of 2K pissing on my head and telling me it's rain.
We made it people!!!
Yeah, I honestly have only played on PC for the last few years now due to me building myself a PC a few years back when I was younger over christmas gifts slowly. Now trying to save up for a house and its not easy to justify dropping a bunch of money on PS5 and the new game currently. So sucks it will probably be gone on PC soon. Glad to see someone talk about it tho!
The perfect 2k24 would be just for them to remaster 2k17 or 16: just make the exact same game with better graphics and new rosters. Every game has been terrible ever since. Not even okay. All of them have been terrible.
The assumption that "no one is buying the PC version to play online" is based on *false* assumption that everyone who owns a PC also has new gen consoles...
That is not the case.
Not all of us are rich.
Up until recently, new gen consoles were urban legends in most countries.
Not all of us will throw away money to buy a new console just to play NBA 2K, when we have built beast PCs to play every other game.
Most PC gamers do all of their gaming on PC and want a complete/updated version of NBA 2K on PC.
It's so ridiculous that 2K is hiding behind hacking and mods, to excuse their laziness in designing the new version for PC (with its wide range of hardware). Especially when we all know on which "platform" all the development is done for all versions of the game.
Banger Video
So what PC mods do you recommend? Is there a package you can download that just covers everything? I know previously you could get one, but I don't remember the name, but it came with cyberfaces and rosters. I don't know which games it is is available for though. Is 2k23 the best one to mod? Or are people still mainly working with 22 or older? Edit: Ultimate Base Roster. That's it. Is it still being used/updated?
3:00 made me choke on my food 😭
It's a simple question 2K does not care and sadly they're not the only ones who do this
Pirating never felt like a better alternative 😊
I buy 2k on PC for 1 reason, to play with my buddies in the rec. None of us wanna buy a console for only 2k. PC has everything else better than consoles for every other games we play.
I'm buying PC version not because customization, i'm buying it because i don't have PS or XBOX
2K is just dont care, thats it
Great video! Yep... I'm staying on modded 23 as a protest
2K don’t want y’all playing the game like that if you aren’t buying MyTeam packs and VC lol
Same ol games every yr,all they do is add a new animation and call it the best game ever.....haven't bought 2k in 4yrs
😂😂😂
You know like how WWE got community creations 2K should have that like for shoes,cyberfaces and courts
BTW only way I remember this was because the last SvR’s I played were 2010 and 2011
Somebody made a video about it 😮
I haven't bought 2k since 20 because of the PC community getting shafted.
thank you for speaking on this topic. i don't own a console because I don't care about playing rec or park. i just like to mess around in myleague and myteam offline by myself. i was saving up my steam money for the new 2k but after hearing its last gen I'm not buying that shit. why would I support and spend money to hopefully have them not neglect an entire section of their playerbase even if it is smaller than console.
The ship sailed on the series about 3 or 4 years ago. There's no coming back.
Wish more 2k youtubers would speak on this, makes me think they're being told not to by 2K.
the reason i want next gen on PC is because im not gonna buy a console for 500 bucks just to play 1 game lol. i want the eras system and the updated gameplay not the old stuff
Time for NBA Live or some other company to take us PC Gamers' money.
Heck just make a base basketball game with randoms and then let the steamworkshop and mods do the work.
Thanks Dom !
This is one of many problems I have with 2k:
• As you mentioned in this video, PC support is nonexistent to the point where Next Gen will never get ported to PC. Since 2k24 is getting cross play, the devs don't want to deal with PC players hacking the fun away from the console players. From what I know, PC 2k lacks an anti cheat and that's the devs fault.
• Mod support is amazing but the fact that I have to cough up $70 just to be able to mod a game with the same identical assets but upgraded each year is beyond fucked up. It's cool if the engine or the assets the devs use barely change so porting over mods is literally a Thanos snap away but in the modders perspective, I would be absolutely annoyed to do this each year. Mods are for offline content which is great and I know the older version still have ongoing mod support but this is unreal to re-mod the same game with the same price tag.
• I told myself that 2k should just make a live service game so that they can add and update content as time progresses instead of yearly releases. PC can be playable with cross play and next gen with a great anti cheat. Blacktop, MyLeague, MyGM and the other modes can be the offline counterparts. They'll be able to roster update and balance change without splitting the work force on another game and keep the assets and engine upgraded. Depending on how it's executed, they could make tons more money back this way.
With all of that being said, I really hope we get another NBA Live game down the line.
I don't have a ps5 so I play 2k on PC, I only really play MyCareer or Myleague because its too laggy to do online stuff, but I do have to admit I bought the game for MyEra and was dissappointed when PC didn't have it. I'm still dissappointed to this day.
The PC has to much people cheating with zens, as soon pc gets next gen I’m off 2k won’t play it no more
zen is what people use to cheat on console. People on pc cheat with software not hardware. ur trippin
@@notoriouspc even worse they still cheat, I’ve seen someone put max badges with a 70 overall. PC will never be next gen. It’s just a bunch of cheaters on pc if they wanna play comp get a console 😂, but we no they won’t
There’s probably millions of people who stopped playing 2k for the usual reasons that dont know abt modded 2k on pc that would buy it were to come out on pc if they saw the true capability of next gen 2k with mods. Im no business man but i think its worth it to try even a little bit to port it to pc
Imagine if the PC community made a 2k quivalenf of GTA RP for 2k? We could make 2k EXACTLY how we wanted, there would be hundreds of parks with different sliders, female my players, custom hair, custom clothes, custom map, you could just hop on at 99 overall and play.
TakeTwo would do everything in their power to shut a project like this down, and it is likely they would succeed. It's a damn shame because this would be amazing.
Me and my friends primarily play PC, and we are stupid enough to grind out MC players every year the legit way just to be faced with hackers. The online portion of PC is relatively populated, but 2k has done nothing to combat cheating. There is not a single piece of anticheat software in the game. Hackers have been copy/pasting hacks every year because the games don't ever change. It's fucking insulting honestly.
The funny part is they DID add an anti cheat to PC in may of this year iirc.
Now pc is getting next gen for 2k25 but theres no cross play tho
2K should just add a workshop system.
I was trying to learn to get new Blacktop courts. Now I just want to remove as many restrictions on animations as possble so I can lab. PS: Old Gen only gets Wembanyama's jumpshot for season 2, that was it.
It could not be that hard to come up with an anti-cheat, especially for a Triple A company with infinite money behind it. MediaTonic (Fall Guys) tried to make their own AC then asked EpicGames for help. 2k is using that as an excuse to be lazy and not do it. There isn't even a reporting system to ban the cheaters.
2k says PC players need to make their voice heard... which means buy the game as-is so they figure there's even more money on top of their RECORD PROFITS. Why would we buy a LG port that looks awful, has no effort put into it, and is disconnected from every other platform? It's a lose-lose situation all while 2k gets richer and richer every single year.
Until people stop buying the game in mass 2K will never give a shit
i only reason i want mods is to have 2k14 style animations in next gen 2k24
Madden has gone through the same issue!!! You do things no one wants or understands and here you go!! Terrible products and just gimmick ways of micro transactions!!
Madden has been dead in the water at this point. Just look at the reactions to the "trailer."
I could care less about playing online. Just give me the game with the ability to mod whatever I want in it and I’m happy.
Online gaming has been terrible for single player mode across many games
These games haven't been fun to play online since Xbox360/PS3 days. People use the same broken plays or overpowered players. No strategy or skill.
Thank you for speaking about the PC version of 2k
I think you are the only "big voice" talking about this
the last 2k I played for a while was 2k20, and now I got 2k23 on the summer sale, I kinda gave up on the pc version of 2k
Only reason I have to buy 2k24 on PC is because I'm too broke to buy a ps5
2:40 To answer your question me anecdotally. 2k20 was the last one I purchased because 2k wouldn't deliver next gen to PC and I thought why should I give them money when they want to half ass cater to me. I don't have a PS5 or XBox but I have a PC that eclipses them in power and 2k can't even bring themselves to deliver a port to a beast of a machine that will handle the game better than their console releases.
If you have enough money to buy a decent PC. Just buy it! I bought one before Covid and it’s a million times better. Game sales are super common and you have G2A where you can buy games practically for 50-75 % off. Modding is fun asf and is on every game you can think of which just makes every game better. Also most multiplayer games (good ones) that are on console are Crossplay so you wouldn’t have to worry about that. You also wouldn’t need to worry about new consoles coming out and worry about graphics. If that is ever an issue you buy and replace a part which is much cheaper than any new console.
Take two interactive’s bottom line is to be as profitable as possible even it means killing the gaming experience for everyone, its the reason we’ve literally grown old waiting on gta 6 lmao
I create content for pc and this is very frustrating ive been waiting for 3years salute to ea at least for giving fifa
That ratchet and clank outro is so nostalgic
I think the main reason its still old gen on pc is because A. Vc sales and B. They have a completely different team doing old gen 2k vs current gen and in their laziness they just let the old gen team deal with the PC version, thats why i just stick with 2k16 on pc the graphics mods make the game look incredible
it makes zero sense as to why they dont give pc the same version of the damn game.. like why ???
The funniest part is how easy it would be to fix the issues that plague 2k on PC. I play crossplay all the time on street fighter 6 and fortnite on PC and I’ve never had to deal with any of the issues on 2k
2k on PC makes FIFA look like the best game of all time
If you make EA look better than you than at this point it’s just personal
“There’s only 1 reason someone would buy the PC version… mods”. Nope. there’s 2 reasons. I ONLY HAVE A PC. I’m not about to buy a 500 buck console for 1 game
Playing the free version of NBA 2K23 while listening to people shit on NBA 2K24, knowing you aren’t buying it, hits different
I don’t even care for mods I just want to play on pc for the game to run better with lower input delay
I stg they have a contract with PlayStation and Xbox to push next gen systems but never porting it to other systems. The game is MADE ON A PC and pcs can have more powerful setups than both of them. There’s no reason to not port it unless it’s not in their wider business interests
NBA2k will NEVER be amazing again 2k12 was the closest but had things removed from 11 and obviously the quality isnt great
never say never, but at the rate 2k has gone the last few years im with you lmao
and now 2k24 on the pc is the second worst rated game of all time on steam (dont know if this impacted the sales though)
I use to play 2K on pc because i only had a pc to play it on - i have a ps5 now
I played 2k16 on pc, and 17 and 19 on ps4. Got 2k23 on pc for $9 and now i'm itching to get back into the game and am considering buying a ps5 just to play 2k next gen with good queue times lmao. tragic