Hey Andy Thanks so much for checking in dude!! That’s amazing to know about your setups, I assumed you just have the one setup for everything and that was what I was aiming for, but I couldn’t get just the one setup to work as well as two?! Your style and approach has been a huge influence and your pro board has helped me to progress with confidence. Do you mind if I ask what wheels you use for your two setups please? Do you have the factory 8.75 mini logo trucks on no matter what?? Also is there a new graphic coming? I notice your board has been out of stock for a bit? Thanks so much for tuning in dude, I’ve subscribed to your channel (must be the most under rated TH-cam channel in history??!! )
Andy! I just got back into skateboarding after 10 years away (I’m 24 now) but I just found you recently and since, have been watching so many of your vids! Keep it up! If I could sign that van of yours one day that’d be cool
I'm 31, 90-ish kilos, 6ft tall with 11.5 UK shoes for context. So on the bigger side for a skater. My setup when I was a teenager was way smaller and never suited me and it ultimately contributed to me quitting skating until coming back to in this past 2 years. My typical allrounder setup is: -8.5" Zero deck (nice concave, mirrored tails so both sides skate the same) -Indy Hollows with hard Bones bushings (stock Indy bushings are awful) -1/4" risers -Spitfire 53mm, 101D hardness wheels -Bones Redz bearings It's a nice board for street for me because it's light enough to get a decent pop, but I tend to stick to bowls if there's one available because it's just fun to bomb around them. I recently got a 10" Heroin Curb Killer 2 deck and the parts to go with it for something more cruisy and bowly but have yet to really put it to work. You definitely feel secure while standing on it.
I luv u carvers. Bit of a shredder myself... . Nostalgic about the early days with my own vintage design but; I see them comin' back! Sk8 forever, Jon Bishop! Thanks for the post!
I’m about to turn 40 and getting into skateboarding for the first time ever! I’m not really interested in doing street, just some pools and bowls so your videos are a fantastic resource to help me learn. I went with an old school Powell Peralta reissue deck as my first board and I’m loving it!
Love how you found a setup you liked, but kept looking for different boards, different shapes and continued to experiment with your setup. Love how you've never been overly attached to one board. Love the video, jam packed with great info.
I have many set ups, first was a 1983 Powell Skull & Sword, many were hurt on it so I traded it for a Zorlac Metallica I got in 1986 I use as an all around and on ramps with 60mm rat bones both have. All 169 Indy trucks I use, now with Swiss ceramics, 1/4” risers and Ricta 60mm 78a,s. I don’t Ollie either, mainly cruise, ramp, street and bowl. I need good pads so I can get balls deep in learning without injury.
You are great inspiration for people getting onto skate not that young Jon. Really admire your commitment, perseverance and good vibes in all your videos. Like you, I have a surfing background and wanted to be able to do some sliding sport in the city ( the sea is unfortunately far from home). I am 34 and excited to see where this new hobby can lead me to!
I noticed my original 9 inch heron flight deck graphic has only a bit blue at the bottom, then it goes into turquoise and pretty dark green towards the tail…the Anderson writing is turquoise, not blue… I got slime balls 56mm 97a dressen turquoise pro wheels on 8.75 inch polar bear trucks, bones medium bushings and very slim gummy risers and it rips quarter pipes and looks fabulous
Hi Jon, thanks for this great video.. I've had a similar journey since getting back into skating after several years. I'd always had an 8 inch popcicle deck which did the the job fine.. However, I just get the feeling these days that some more width, longer wheel base and bigger wheels will be where its at for the bigger ramps and bowls. I'm feeling that having two boards in the boot instead of one is going to be ace! Thanks again!!
Jon! Love this video. 46 year old here that stepped on a board for the first time since junior high this year, April 12, 2020. No surf background though. Just over weight. Your progression, although much further along than mine, seems so familiar. I find the flat land tricks to be much more difficult to nail down. I've really enjoyed learning to carve and do things on transition ramps. I have a very inconsistent Rock To Fakie, Rock 'N Roll, 50/50, and Feeble. I just recently started playing in a full 4' mini ramp. Not very good at that though. I am on an 8.5" pop sickle. Cold weather and Snow is starting to hit in Northern U.S., so now I'm focusing on flatland stuff in doors at my office. Andy Anderson is such an inspiration to watch. I may have to check out his board. Thanks for the joy and inspiration. Glad I found your channel. I've been loving the community of us middle-agers learning to skateboard. Keep it Up!
Hey Ken, I’m 40. Haven’t skated since 2000. Skated flat / street for years in the ‘90s on skinny boards. I was 285 but down to 195 and began skating again-now mini ramps, bowls, and flat again. I have bounced around on so many sizes (starting w Welcome shaped boards-which are very cool; then back to the skinny popsicles of the ‘90s: 7.875, 8.125, 8.25, & 8.38)-none of which provide the comfort & confidence as the Andy Anderson. I ride the 8.45 w mini logo 8.38s and 53mm wheels (Bones and Spitfire Formula 4)-there’s really nothing else close to it’s feeling (an 8.8” Welcome board rides like a 8.6”-great on the ramp/pools, but still too beefy for me to flip or get more than a foot or so of pop on my ollie). The AA has a total “locked in” feeling; I recommend the 8.45 for someone riding street (it behaves like an 8.25” board)-little bit more room for your feet at the bolts, but excellent responsiveness-esp to us older, heavier, often more flat-footed-landing skaters. I’ll be jumping on another 8.45 when more are available. Good luck man
When I got back into skating, after a 25 year absence, it took me 5 boards and setups to find the right setup. First board was just like the one I had when I skated in the 1990s. Huge mistake. Nearly had to have knee surgery because of a wreck. Because it just doesn't fit my size and abilities anymore. I started going wider, longer and more stable. It still took more boards and setups, but I finally found one that feels solid under me, and allows me to try tricks I want to do. After the first board, they are all shaped boards.
Love your energy dude "hoo hoo!". I'm 32 gettin back into skating and have been considering an Andy Anderson board for the park and street. Keep up the good work!
Great video. Started in my 40's too. Skate mainly transition. For big bowls I have a Antihero Jeff Grosso pro model 9.25" with Indy 169s with 58mm spitfires. My favourite all round board is a Madness Sam Beckett 8.75" board with Indy 159s with 60mm snot shots. Both decks have two wheel base options. Madness make fantastic shaped boards. Highly recommend. Keep the videos coming. Love em!
Wicked, yes I have admired the Madness boards from a far for a while. I also love some of the Grosso graphics and his 9.25 board has the dimensions I like so I’d be ace to give one a whirl for sure! Many thanks for for checking in dude!
Hi Jon. Great to know about your skating career 🙂👍 As you I arrived to skateboarding as a surfing complement in my mid 20's. I skated a lot in the mid 90s, mainly park skating, got an intermediate decent level and then, never quitted, but started skating much more sporadically, also switched to longboarding in my early 40's. Then they built 3-years ago this beautiful brand new park 15 min from home and I seriously got the stoke again.I think I can say that I am skating as much as I did 25 years ago when I started. ll be 50 in a few days and hope to be able to skate still for many years. Your videos are in any case an important inspiration. Thanks for it mate !
Forgot to mention I also have the 9,1 Anderson deck, really enjoying it at my backyard micro. Otherwise I ve been pretty much skating the bowl with reissues as the Guerrero mask or the F. Hill bulldog. Need volume under the foot, same when surfing!
Top Notch Sir, much obliged. So you are telling me, you are a surfer, and skateboarding is when the sea is not cooperating, I don't know man with all these decks behind you are deep in. props to you sir.
Awesome! I kinda did the same thing, started with a small deck and then realised I wanted to learn to skate a bowl- now I skate a reissue Gonz deck with chunky spitfire wheels and 159 Indy's. Having loads more fun and always learning.
I wish I could have a couple of different set ups since I skate the street area AND the bowls at my local..prices are through the roof in Turkey where I live and the skate shops barely get any stock in anymore because it's all imported and the lira is so weak against the dollar. My tail is almost gone and I'm currently holding out for an 8.5 width deck of which there are none in stock and as for wheels my previous pair had worn down so small I was desperate and just took the 54mm 99A bones STF; a little harder and larger than ideal really. Still, I am progressing on all fronts especially for a man of 41. I am thoroughly enjoying the videos!
Awesome video Jon! Could you please let me now about the wheels for your setup at 10:22 please? I am looking for similar wheels in terms of size and shape. Thanks!
Funny enough, I have two board setups (not intentionally) because the set of trucks i bought for my 8.0” street deck were the wrong size, they were the indy 149 8.5” trucks, so as a result i had to buy a new set of proper sized indy 139’s. Then it had me thinking maybe i should get an 8.5” shaped deck to make a crusier with my spare trucks, so i did, however the indy 149 on a 8.5” board is insanely heavy!! When i went back to the 8.0” deck with the 139’s my ollies where much higher and i was much more comfortable with the lighter set up. So ive pretty much scraped all the money i paid for the 8.5” setup and thats a $170 ill never get back. Now i want the hollow indy 139’s so badly, a cycle that never ends
If you can wait & scrape together some more cash-the Indy Forged Titanium are insanely light, and absolutely everything you’d be looking for in a weight-conscious setup.
Hi Jon, still absolutely loving your videos... laughing at this one as the Mrs and I have a Flight Deck (280 shape 9.7) with Gullwing trucks and OJ Winkowski 54mm’s and an Andy Anderson 9.2 with Gullwing trucks and OJ Winkowski 58mm’s. We’ve been through Powell Peralta Caballeros, Ray Barbee and Franky Hill Decks... don’t ask about our kite surfing boards!!!... see you at Prevail soon (hopefully).
Great video John. I’ve just bought my first street board, Powell and ridden my first skatepark on an Arbor Pilsner during lockdown having watched skating vids and your previous ones. Definitely enjoy riding a wider cruiser style board - a 50year old ;)
Hey Jon , just about to watch this and thought I would love to see you try out some ACE trucks (and other trucks too). I know you like your Indys (me too) but I have heard good things about Ace for bowls and transition, would be interested in your thoughts before i pull the trigger. Sounds like they may be good for those who also like surfskates too. Cheers!
@@JonBishopSkate thanks for the reply, time to break out of the box and experiment! would love to see some more wheel and truck adventures and reviews. I think changing wheels is like changing yuour fin(s) in your surfboard-can really affect the feel and peformance of a board. . .
Very interesting to hear this. Like you, I have a surfing background and started skateboarding very late. You skate a lot wider than I do - I skate an 8.25 wide deck all the time. But for pool skating (love that!) a dedicated wider board with bigger wheels makes perfect sense. For halfpipe I would not go wider than 8.5 but having heard what you say about your >9.0 decks I should give a wider board a try.
Hey dude! Yeah all personal preference for sure! Let me know how you get on! Sounds like you’ve got it dialled in on your setup so it might be a case of if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it? But it could be fun to try? I was thinking I could try an 8.75 for my mini ramp/ street setup next, but I really like the Anderson ??
Definitely worth trying a wider board and bigger wheels. I ride a 8" deck for street and 9" deck for bowls. I get a lot more stability on the wider board. When used to skate the 8" deck in the bowls and could do stalls and small carving, but the bigger bowls (7' & 9') felt unstable. Going to a 9" board with 58m wheels really helped me. I was carving farther and higher than I ever had on the 8" the first time I used it.
Probably the best set up video I have seen, nice to know how you feel about all the styles and shapes. I am currently really wanting to skate more pool and carves but starting from only ever doing basic street stuff. I have an old school shape 8.5 in the mail and some bigger 56mm wheels for a new setup hope it helps me get the feel! What would you say are your favourite carving/pool trucks? I was going to opt for indy 149s but the mini logos sound interesting!
Hi Richard Many thanks for tuning in. I like the Indies for pure carving feel. If you set them fairly loose they can turn really tight !! The mini logo trucks I find are ace for street and mini ramp. Good luck, let me know how you get on. I’ve recorded quite a few vids on carving and bowl riding if you fancy a peak? Best JB
@@JonBishopSkate Ah awesome! I already have some Indy 149s on a different setup so will give them a go first on the new deck and see how I feel, thanks for the advice. Yeah just been watching loads of your vids this afternoon, will be tuning back in for sure.
Hi Fellow older guy learning to skate .love your videos I used to love bones big balls but now in love with Bronson G3 bearings they are ausome give me a crack Ben 41 Australia also ride flight deck they are the best
Your channel is great man it's good to see someone who started older making progress, one question though how did you find the concave on the flight deck? I want to try one
34yo, 6' and 230lbs. I fell on my arse/small of my back from a stiff landing on a bs180 ollie 5 days ago, its still hurts to stand/sit. Can't wait til I'm fit again 🤕
@@JonBishopSkate I'm going to have to do the same. Riding a Black Label 8.25" deck (54mm 104a wheels, stage 144 titanium indys with 1/8" risers) right now, but I just picked up an 8.45" Andy Anderson flight deck to set up as a more bowl/pool-focused setup. I just got back into skating this summer after 15 years off, and am realizing that I absolutely love skating transition. Love your vids - great attitude and determination, it's entertaining and inspiring.
JAPR.rar many thanks for the kind works dude! Yeah I was keen to have the one setup for everything, but having one for street/small trannie and one for bowls and big trannie seems to work really well?
@@JonBishopSkate I'm kind of hoping that putting some 56mm wheels on the anderson flight deck and using titanium indys again will give me enough of a balance between weight and solidity that I can get away with just the one deck, but time will tell.
@@japrar I also ride/love the 144 Titanium Indys on 8.25; tried on my 8.45 AA w/ 53mm, 54mm, and 55mm trucks w/ 1/8” risers; didn’t really like anything over 54mm for flat ground/street, but 55’s were great for the mini ramp and great in the bowl. I ended up going w the mini logo 8.38 (which are lower trucks)-but soooooo lightweight. Putting a 1/2” riser w 55mm wheels felt similar to Titanium Indys, but was really blown away by how much better the mini logo’s felt on the mini ramp. I even experimented going straight up low trucks, no risers w 53mm wheels and it’s been the first board I’ve ever been able do manuals on, skate flat + bowls and the mini ramp, and keep adding tricks / progressing with in each of those settings. Again, 144 Indy Forged Titanium, great lightweight truck (53.5mm height?)... But the Mini Logo 8.38” have been a huge surprise and unexpectedly responsive - turning and grinding as good as my Indys, but gave me manuals (pop out of the pool / mini ramp to manual and launch back in) is a rad trick I could never nail on the Indys
Thanks for the video! And explaining your reasons. I'm currently contemplating an Andy heron as well(for transition) Good to hear such good things. BTW.. this vids from 3yrs ago! Have you progressed from this board or u got another setup? Cheers!
Hey dude Yeah, I still use this exact board for Vert and the 7 ply version for the Bowl. 6 months ago I got Andy’s new Egg board. Here is my video of the progress, this is where my skating is now compared to three years ago? th-cam.com/video/DiA5Rq5mYUU/w-d-xo.html
Hi Jon, I was wondering if you ever have any difficulty with wheels sliding about on indoor ramps? Do you have to switch out your wheels going from concrete bowls to waxy indoor skateparks?? I've been riding the Anderson flight deck too and enjoy a 58mm wheel, perhaps what I've been riding is too firm a durometer for slick surfaces...
Yeah dude, most dudes at the local ride between 97a and 99a. The more experienced dudes seem to make the harder wheels work whatever? I sort of know what I can get away with on the wood with the Spitfire 99a, but the Spitfire are a magic wheel IMO and grips way better than it’s duro would suggest?
@@JonBishopSkate Fair play Jon.. I've had my eye on some Spitfire 97a's which I'm going to go for to sit in for my Bones SPF's when I'm skating indoor parks. Thanks for the advice and the stoke man!!
duddde, I love videos like this where u go over your setups.... I've started a lil collection myself of boards and parts for different things lol ...my current setup is a 10"×30" 7ply with indy 169mm 1/2" risers and AWOL 63mm wheels and bones red ...decent for me but I recently got a 10×30 5ply and I'm looking to mess with different wheel sizes and no risers ....
Hey man I was only looking for information on the Peralta x Andy Anderson "Heron" deck but I really enjoyed hearing about your skate experience + background. Seeing the different boards you went through and your retroactive takes on each one was really cool! As far as the Andy Anderson boards, it was awesome that you went over two different setups and that you're sticking with them! I'm about to pick up my first one myself but I was wondering if you knew anything about what the freestyle guys might put on their Heron... My quick background is that I'm a relatively novice skater. I've used a "Dusters Locos Chaz 32" Cruiser Complete" (VERY sick board by the way, but it's a little hard to find) as my favorite mode of transportation whenever I have to go somewhere (unless it's for work or it's raining/snowing). I've ridden for probably 4 or 5 years now all over my town and the next one over, and I've been to skate parks maybe a few dozen times so I'm quite comfortable with a lot of the basics. Only thing is I never took tricks too seriously, part of the reason being that my cruiser is a little on the big side which is a tad intimidating (8.625" width and 60mm wheels). I've recently been trying hard to improve my skills and repertoire but I fractured my ankle 😁 (riding up a pretty smooth curb with poor posture! I didn't even fall off the board, the pain hit while I was standing on it... If you or anyone else also has advice on how to prevent that or why it happened, it would mean a lot. My friend just said it's a lack of balance and that I put all my weight on the back foot with no follow through. I kind of understand but I'm not sure how exactly I could prevent that going forward. Is it just a matter of bending my knees? I think I might have unknowingly been standing like I would be for a manual which I was practicing a lot in the 2 days prior to my injury) Anyways, since I'm still a novice skater I thought it would be sweet if I could work on both street and FREESTYLE stuff, with the goal of being able to combine the two. I'm also intrigued by freestyle skating because I don't think I've ever really seen it in my area. I want to incorporate that style into my street and vert skating. Any advice on putting it together so it can do most of the things I described? If not, it's all good. Your advice on optimizing it for bowls vs ramps is super appreciated and I'll go off of your setups when I'm ready to put it together for a day of serious bowl or vert skating bro! You're the man for this video dude, I truly cannot thank you enough and I'll be sure to binge your 60 day challenge and other videos as I rest and recover! You're an inspiration 🔥
@@JonBishopSkate thanks dude and they sure are, I only found a little stash of them on eBay (shhhh don't tell anyone). I decided I'll actually be picking up 2 as well (an 8.45" and a 9.13") which I'm really really stoked about 🤘 I cannot wait until my leg heals 😂
First Last sounds good dude. Not sure on the ankle, sounds like a strange one for sure, I’ve rolled both mine a couple of times and it’s my least favourite injury as it stops you skating, for knees I just tape them up and carry on. Not sure on the pure freestyle setup, but Andy uses the 9inch Heron with 8.75 mini logo trucks and 54mm 99a wheels for his freestyle work?? A Rodney Mullen style setup would be a much narrower board and trucks? Good luck with it, sounds like some good goals there !!
First Last p.s Andy’s comment is the next one down from yours! I found it super interesting he optimismises his setups for discipline. After watching a lot of his video parts I just thought he used the same setup for everything!!
@@JonBishopSkate yeah I finally found him talking about his setup a teensy bit in an NKA Vids Skateboarding video: "amazing secret skatepark with Andy Anderson and friends" @ 2:08. He just briefly mentions he's using his street set-up which includes 53mm 99a Bones STF wheels and some big balls bearings. For any further advice, I'll check out some message boards + content pertaining to Andy's setup when he was riding his previous Powell Peralta board (if it was good enough for him 4 or 5 years ago, it will be more than good enough for me lol). And that's just awesome that he commented too, he's easily one of my favorite skaters. That's just wild to me
Awesome video. Thanks! Really useful info. Also an older, taller skater, I'm now only really looking at bowls and transition for the sake of my knees and ankles. I've been looking at wider boards with a longer wheelbase for stability. Was trying to decide between the Madness decks and the 246 Flight/Andy Anderson stuff from Powell. Your vid saved me from experimenting, I'll be going straight for Andy's 9" model. Many thanks. 👍 I've heard that the flight decks can be nasty for splinters when you get down to the composite layers. Is that something you've experienced?
Hey Dude, Many thanks for tuning in. Yeah, I found the flight decks to be awesome all round. The durability is really great, I am big and clumsy and crash a lot and the deck is in really good shape. Andy designed the tail to be able to be sanded back once it gets a bit of razor on it as it’s square. It’s a really big tail so you don’t miss the quarter-inch when it’s sanded back?! I’m 6,3 and the 15” base feels really good for the bowl!
Hi Jon! Just wanted to ask you if you would add some wheelbase to the Andy Anderson deck. I was wondering if the setup would get akward if I moved the truck about 1 inch forward. Your thoughts?
Hey dude, yeah, I guess it depends on how much you do on the nose. The problem with moving the front truck is it’ll mess with the nose pocket ?? There is about 2 fingers of flat on the nose so you should be able to re-drill an inch forward? Maybe a little less? The WB is fairly long all-ready at 15” ? What’s your reason/thinking of going to 16”? Might be better to go for a deck with a 16” WB? Dogtown and Anti Hero do some nice LWB decks??
Hey Jon, nice video and very nice boards! A friend is planning to give me some 60mm Kryptonics. I might get myself some new trucks to match as mine won't ride straight now. Indy's seem to be popular for bowls and transition which I'm more and more into. What height truck shoul I go for to go with 60mm wheels and should I get risers if trucks are loose? I do have some 1/4 inch risers but not sure Inwould need thicker ones to avoid wheelbite
Also, have you come across a similar all round deck like the Andy Anderson but not so expensive. Currently riding a street oriented popsicle which I'm used to but thinking to get something a bit wider and with larger wheel base for transition
@@JonBishopSkate thanks man. I like the look of the Vargas board. Also tempted by the Powell-Peralta flight deck as an option. Can see the benefit of the stiffness for pumping
Hi John, would you advise getting a smaller 8’6 board for mini ramps next to my pool setup winkowski aquatic night (10”)? And do the smaller 54mm wheels have any influence on potential hang-ups?
Hey Dude Yeah, I run a different setup for the small mini, verse bowls and big trannie. 9” is as low as I go cause I’ve got big flappy feet 😂 55mm feel good to me for street and mimi, I use 58mm for everything else!
Great video Jon, I could relate to every word of that being a 49 year old late skater myself! What size trucks and wheels did you use on the Roskopp, did you use a riser too?
Very good and useful video. How tall are you? I am also coming from a Surfing background an I will definitely learn from your experience to try finding the perfect match for me with my second skateboard. Thanks!
Hey Dude They are 97a, I ride indoors on wood as well as the concrete and they are a happy medium for both. They could be harder for just the concrete, but the wood gets super slippy on the harder duro?!
@@JonBishopSkate Perfect, I wasn't sure if 97a would be a bit slow on a wood bowl but that's great thanks. I'll get me a pair of those. Between 58mm and 60mm.
Hi Jon, I also have a surfing background and want to get into skating, bowlskating especially. I own a normal skateboard a friend gifted to me. On that I learned drop ins, little to medium carves, pumping and kick turns. I can also do tiny ollies, but that's pretty much it. I'm not too focused on the street skating, doing flipping tricks and that stuff, my main goal is to get good at riding bowls, step up my carving and start a few lip tricks. Now I want to get a suitable board. Ideally a whole set up. Would the Santa Cruz roskopp shape be a good beginners bowl riders choice or is that maybe too advanced? And any recommendations on trucks/wheels? - Love your videos btw!!
Great stuff dude, Yeah, anything you like the look of will work a treat, I like 9.2 to 9.5 ish wide. A shaped board with a fatter tail may inspire confidence and get you stoked on the surf look. A longer wheel base (15inch) may also afford you a wider stance and more stability. See if you can grab a go on a mates bowl style setup and then if you like it get one of those! Bigger wheels (58 to 60mm) and a grippy duro (97a) also helps, slimeballs are fast and come in every size and colour. Indy trucks turn great and a 1/4 riser will stop the wheel bite. Santa Cruz do some great looking pre-issues, the 9.5 pre issue goes really well and has a nice concave and a useable nose kick. The flight boards last well and there are plenty of crackers, you may well get on well with the 9.2 I feature here ? Let me know how you get on, happy shopping !!
Interesting vid mate, it's great hearing about other peeps setups. I just got myself a bowl setup. 8.5 deck, bigger than I normally skate but no where near some of the ones you've used. How tall are you out of interest? Keep up the great work!🤙
@@JonBishopSkate I'm a little smaller at 6'1. The 8.5 for bowls is definitely more stable. I've always used 8.25 for all my other skating. I do like the look of that Anderson deck, he's such ab amazing skater!
What wheels do you use for your bowl riding? 60mm ojs? I currently have 58mm bones spf 104a and I'm finding them a little slippy. Anything you would suggest? Was looking at Santa Cruz slime balls.
Hey Dude Yeah 61mm OJs I am also testing out some Spitfire OG 99a 58mm which are ace. Can’t go wrong with Slimeballs, fast and plenty of grip !! Anything around 97a to 99a will be better for grip !!
@@JonBishopSkate I went with some 56mm 97a slimeballs. Definitely can notice the difference in speed but the extra grip is making me carve into my turns tighter. Wish I had gone 58+ but 56 was biggest I could find!
Real skateboards Tommy Guerrero 9'77 Paris trucks 169 Bones 60mm Bones Super Reds Indy bushings (Hard) Elephant Mike Valelly Dresden 10' Paris Trucks Spitfire 59mm Bones Reds Indy bushings (medium) Streetman 8'50 Thunder Trucks Elephant 58 mm 103a Spitfire Burners Bones bushings (medium) And various decks lying around. I mainly skate parks Thanks for the upload mate
Board porn! Awesome video dude. I'm on a polar 1992 shape deck the now - 9.25 at the front bolts and 8.25 at the back. Indy 169s and formula 4 58mm wheels. I'm progressing well on mini ramp, I reckon helped out by the massive landing pad for my front foot! Feels super safe. Also when I step on a popsicle shape now I feel bored lol
Hello excuse me for my bad English, I am from France Can you tell me what truck size and wheels do you use on the andy anderson board 9,13? Because I buy one 👍 thanks for your videos
Do you have 5-0 stall yet? I mean the kind with no pivot balance but something like this th-cam.com/video/QfR3xxY5odI/w-d-xo.html. I got one the other night but I just need to get one now that i can stand on for good.
I sanded back the wheel wells with a dremel to stop wheelbite, not really necessary with mini logo trucks and 55mm wheels so an experiment that turned out to be a folly. The reason I fall off a lot is cause I like to learn new tricks and I’m relatively inexperienced. My bowl setup has 1/4inch risers, one thing I can say is I’ve never come off from wheel bite luckily!!
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Solid Break Down !!! I have different wheels on my street and bowl boards too :)
Hey Andy
Thanks so much for checking in dude!!
That’s amazing to know about your setups, I assumed you just have the one setup for everything and that was what I was aiming for, but I couldn’t get just the one setup to work as well as two?! Your style and approach has been a huge influence and your pro board has helped me to progress with confidence. Do you mind if I ask what wheels you use for your two setups please? Do you have the factory 8.75 mini logo trucks on no matter what?? Also is there a new graphic coming? I notice your board has been out of stock for a bit? Thanks so much for tuning in dude, I’ve subscribed to your channel (must be the most under rated TH-cam channel in history??!! )
Andy! I just got back into skateboarding after 10 years away (I’m 24 now) but I just found you recently and since, have been watching so many of your vids! Keep it up! If I could sign that van of yours one day that’d be cool
A regular guy giving "no bullshit" info about he's made his decision choices and his progression. Thanks man!
I'm 31, 90-ish kilos, 6ft tall with 11.5 UK shoes for context. So on the bigger side for a skater. My setup when I was a teenager was way smaller and never suited me and it ultimately contributed to me quitting skating until coming back to in this past 2 years.
My typical allrounder setup is:
-8.5" Zero deck (nice concave, mirrored tails so both sides skate the same)
-Indy Hollows with hard Bones bushings (stock Indy bushings are awful)
-1/4" risers
-Spitfire 53mm, 101D hardness wheels
-Bones Redz bearings
It's a nice board for street for me because it's light enough to get a decent pop, but I tend to stick to bowls if there's one available because it's just fun to bomb around them. I recently got a 10" Heroin Curb Killer 2 deck and the parts to go with it for something more cruisy and bowly but have yet to really put it to work. You definitely feel secure while standing on it.
I luv u carvers. Bit of a shredder myself... . Nostalgic about the early days with my own vintage design but; I see them comin' back! Sk8 forever, Jon Bishop! Thanks for the post!
Thanks for tuning in !
I’m about to turn 40 and getting into skateboarding for the first time ever! I’m not really interested in doing street, just some pools and bowls so your videos are a fantastic resource to help me learn. I went with an old school Powell Peralta reissue deck as my first board and I’m loving it!
Sounds ideal!!
Love how you found a setup you liked, but kept looking for different boards, different shapes and continued to experiment with your setup.
Love how you've never been overly attached to one board.
Love the video, jam packed with great info.
Gnarly 👍 👌 👏 🙌
Thanks - man .
Your video tapes are awesome dude 😎
Many thanks for tuning in!!
Just got the Anderson flight deck and youtube tossed me this video. Im only 25 but we trek and think alike. Love the breakdown
I have many set ups, first was a 1983 Powell Skull & Sword, many were hurt on it so I traded it for a Zorlac Metallica I got in 1986 I use as an all around and on ramps with 60mm rat bones both have. All 169 Indy trucks I use, now with Swiss ceramics, 1/4” risers and Ricta 60mm 78a,s. I don’t Ollie either, mainly cruise, ramp, street and bowl. I need good pads so I can get balls deep in learning without injury.
Dude this guy's got personality someone get him a million subs
Spot on, this helped me @ 47 get back into it again with a clear head. I’ve got one Anderson for display and gonna get another to ride. Great video!
Excellent work, thanks
Many thanks for tuning in
You are great inspiration for people getting onto skate not that young Jon. Really admire your commitment, perseverance and good vibes in all your videos. Like you, I have a surfing background and wanted to be able to do some sliding sport in the city ( the sea is unfortunately far from home). I am 34 and excited to see where this new hobby can lead me to!
Great stuff!! Yeah it’s pretty addictive, my only regret is that I didn’t get on it sooner !!
I noticed my original 9 inch heron flight deck graphic has only a bit blue at the bottom, then it goes into turquoise and pretty dark green towards the tail…the Anderson writing is turquoise, not blue… I got slime balls 56mm 97a dressen turquoise pro wheels on 8.75 inch polar bear trucks, bones medium bushings and very slim gummy risers and it rips quarter pipes and looks fabulous
Hi Jon, thanks for this great video.. I've had a similar journey since getting back into skating after several years. I'd always had an 8 inch popcicle deck which did the the job fine.. However, I just get the feeling these days that some more width, longer wheel base and bigger wheels will be where its at for the bigger ramps and bowls. I'm feeling that having two boards in the boot instead of one is going to be ace! Thanks again!!
You rock, mate! Great video, well spoken and passionate.
Middle aged myself and looking at setting up the Andy 9.13 as my “do-it-all” as well.
Jon! Love this video. 46 year old here that stepped on a board for the first time since junior high this year, April 12, 2020. No surf background though. Just over weight. Your progression, although much further along than mine, seems so familiar. I find the flat land tricks to be much more difficult to nail down. I've really enjoyed learning to carve and do things on transition ramps. I have a very inconsistent Rock To Fakie, Rock 'N Roll, 50/50, and Feeble. I just recently started playing in a full 4' mini ramp. Not very good at that though. I am on an 8.5" pop sickle. Cold weather and Snow is starting to hit in Northern U.S., so now I'm focusing on flatland stuff in doors at my office.
Andy Anderson is such an inspiration to watch. I may have to check out his board.
Thanks for the joy and inspiration. Glad I found your channel. I've been loving the community of us middle-agers learning to skateboard. Keep it Up!
Thanks so much Ken.
Yeah it’s a wicked community, everyone is up for progression and no matter what the level everyone is stoked !!
Hey Ken, I’m 40. Haven’t skated since 2000. Skated flat / street for years in the ‘90s on skinny boards. I was 285 but down to 195 and began skating again-now mini ramps, bowls, and flat again. I have bounced around on so many sizes (starting w Welcome shaped boards-which are very cool; then back to the skinny popsicles of the ‘90s: 7.875, 8.125, 8.25, & 8.38)-none of which provide the comfort & confidence as the Andy Anderson. I ride the 8.45 w mini logo 8.38s and 53mm wheels (Bones and Spitfire Formula 4)-there’s really nothing else close to it’s feeling (an 8.8” Welcome board rides like a 8.6”-great on the ramp/pools, but still too beefy for me to flip or get more than a foot or so of pop on my ollie). The AA has a total “locked in” feeling; I recommend the 8.45 for someone riding street (it behaves like an 8.25” board)-little bit more room for your feet at the bolts, but excellent responsiveness-esp to us older, heavier, often more flat-footed-landing skaters. I’ll be jumping on another 8.45 when more are available. Good luck man
When I got back into skating, after a 25 year absence, it took me 5 boards and setups to find the right setup. First board was just like the one I had when I skated in the 1990s. Huge mistake. Nearly had to have knee surgery because of a wreck. Because it just doesn't fit my size and abilities anymore. I started going wider, longer and more stable. It still took more boards and setups, but I finally found one that feels solid under me, and allows me to try tricks I want to do. After the first board, they are all shaped boards.
Super helpful for beginners
Daaaamn those are some big boards but I love hearing you talk about it! I like to hear about the progression :)
Love your energy dude "hoo hoo!". I'm 32 gettin back into skating and have been considering an Andy Anderson board for the park and street. Keep up the good work!
Nice one dude!
i found happy medium between a little bit of street and most of bowl riding. 159 indi, 53/55 mm wheels and 8.65 deck. Love that setup
I have the mindless octopuke board with slim line rails at the moment.
Great video. Started in my 40's too. Skate mainly transition. For big bowls I have a Antihero Jeff Grosso pro model 9.25" with Indy 169s with 58mm spitfires. My favourite all round board is a Madness Sam Beckett 8.75" board with Indy 159s with 60mm snot shots.
Both decks have two wheel base options.
Madness make fantastic shaped boards. Highly recommend.
Keep the videos coming. Love em!
Wicked, yes I have admired the Madness boards from a far for a while. I also love some of the Grosso graphics and his 9.25 board has the dimensions I like so I’d be ace to give one a whirl for sure! Many thanks for for checking in dude!
Madness decks come with wheel wells right? Do these eliminate the need for riser pads when riding >54mm wheels?
Just got the Suicidal Tendencies, Dogtown 10" board w/ hollow Independent trucks and Slimball wheels! Love it!
Wish this channel was recommended to me sooner. Subbed 👍
Hi Jon. Great to know about your skating career 🙂👍 As you I arrived to skateboarding as a surfing complement in my mid 20's. I skated a lot in the mid 90s, mainly park skating, got an intermediate decent level and then, never quitted, but started skating much more sporadically, also switched to longboarding in my early 40's. Then they built 3-years ago this beautiful brand new park 15 min from home and I seriously got the stoke again.I think I can say that I am skating as much as I did 25 years ago when I started. ll be 50 in a few days and hope to be able to skate still for many years. Your videos are in any case an important inspiration. Thanks for it mate !
Great stuff dude !!
Forgot to mention I also have the 9,1 Anderson deck, really enjoying it at my backyard micro. Otherwise I ve been pretty much skating the bowl with reissues as the Guerrero mask or the F. Hill bulldog. Need volume under the foot, same when surfing!
Top Notch Sir, much obliged.
So you are telling me, you are a surfer, and skateboarding is when the sea is not cooperating, I don't know man with all these decks behind you are deep in. props to you sir.
Ha yeah, I’m pretty addicted to the skating 😂
I absolutely enjoyed this video! Thank you for the info!
Many thanks for tuning in!
Excellent
Awesome! I kinda did the same thing, started with a small deck and then realised I wanted to learn to skate a bowl- now I skate a reissue Gonz deck with chunky spitfire wheels and 159 Indy's. Having loads more fun and always learning.
Totally dude, yeah Gonz and Natas seemed to do ok on those boards lol, I love the shapes and the look, so rad !!
@@JonBishopSkate it has some nice concave on it I really feel secure and locked in
I wish I could have a couple of different set ups since I skate the street area AND the bowls at my local..prices are through the roof in Turkey where I live and the skate shops barely get any stock in anymore because it's all imported and the lira is so weak against the dollar. My tail is almost gone and I'm currently holding out for an 8.5 width deck of which there are none in stock and as for wheels my previous pair had worn down so small I was desperate and just took the 54mm 99A bones STF; a little harder and larger than ideal really. Still, I am progressing on all fronts especially for a man of 41. I am thoroughly enjoying the videos!
Hey dude
Many thanks for tuning in. Send me a pm on Instagram @jonbishopskate and we can sort it !
Mate you're just like me🙂. Getting into bowl skating now too at 36. Come from surfing too 🤙
Awesome video Jon! Could you please let me now about the wheels for your setup at 10:22 please? I am looking for similar wheels in terms of size and shape. Thanks!
Hey dude
Those are the OJ team rider 61mm wheels
@@JonBishopSkate thanks man!!
Great video, will definitely absorb some of this 🤙
Funny enough, I have two board setups (not intentionally) because the set of trucks i bought for my 8.0” street deck were the wrong size, they were the indy 149 8.5” trucks, so as a result i had to buy a new set of proper sized indy 139’s. Then it had me thinking maybe i should get an 8.5” shaped deck to make a crusier with my spare trucks, so i did, however the indy 149 on a 8.5” board is insanely heavy!! When i went back to the 8.0” deck with the 139’s my ollies where much higher and i was much more comfortable with the lighter set up. So ive pretty much scraped all the money i paid for the 8.5” setup and thats a $170 ill never get back. Now i want the hollow indy 139’s so badly, a cycle that never ends
If you can wait & scrape together some more cash-the Indy Forged Titanium are insanely light, and absolutely everything you’d be looking for in a weight-conscious setup.
Hi Jon, still absolutely loving your videos... laughing at this one as the Mrs and I have a Flight Deck (280 shape 9.7) with Gullwing trucks and OJ Winkowski 54mm’s and an Andy Anderson 9.2 with Gullwing trucks and OJ Winkowski 58mm’s. We’ve been through Powell Peralta Caballeros, Ray Barbee and Franky Hill Decks... don’t ask about our kite surfing boards!!!... see you at Prevail soon (hopefully).
Brilliant, yeah can’t wait for the normal opening to resume there!
Great video John. I’ve just bought my first street board, Powell and ridden my first skatepark on an Arbor Pilsner during lockdown having watched skating vids and your previous ones. Definitely enjoy riding a wider cruiser style board - a 50year old ;)
That’s rad, yeah love a nice cruiser !!
Which one best Powell or arbor
Great video with a lot of great info!
Many thanks dude. There are so many great options and it all seems to work perfectly in the right hands lol !!
I don't mind a little bit of rail myself! Not half!
Hey Jon , just about to watch this and thought I would love to see you try out some ACE trucks (and other trucks too). I know you like your Indys (me too) but I have heard good things about Ace for bowls and transition, would be interested in your thoughts before i pull the trigger. Sounds like they may be good for those who also like surfskates too. Cheers!
i just got a winkowski Dope Planet 2 , which is why i am interested :D
Yeah dude, I’ve heard good things too. Love the Hollow Indys and the Mini Logo, I have no doubt the Ace are ‘Ace’ also though ?!! 😂
@@JonBishopSkate thanks for the reply, time to break out of the box and experiment! would love to see some more wheel and truck adventures and reviews. I think changing wheels is like changing yuour fin(s) in your surfboard-can really affect the feel and peformance of a board. . .
Very interesting to hear this. Like you, I have a surfing background and started skateboarding very late. You skate a lot wider than I do - I skate an 8.25 wide deck all the time. But for pool skating (love that!) a dedicated wider board with bigger wheels makes perfect sense. For halfpipe I would not go wider than 8.5 but having heard what you say about your >9.0 decks I should give a wider board a try.
Hey dude!
Yeah all personal preference for sure! Let me know how you get on! Sounds like you’ve got it dialled in on your setup so it might be a case of if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it? But it could be fun to try? I was thinking I could try an 8.75 for my mini ramp/ street setup next, but I really like the Anderson ??
Definitely worth trying a wider board and bigger wheels. I ride a 8" deck for street and 9" deck for bowls. I get a lot more stability on the wider board. When used to skate the 8" deck in the bowls and could do stalls and small carving, but the bigger bowls (7' & 9') felt unstable. Going to a 9" board with 58m wheels really helped me. I was carving farther and higher than I ever had on the 8" the first time I used it.
Probably the best set up video I have seen, nice to know how you feel about all the styles and shapes.
I am currently really wanting to skate more pool and carves but starting from only ever doing basic street stuff. I have an old school shape 8.5 in the mail and some bigger 56mm wheels for a new setup hope it helps me get the feel!
What would you say are your favourite carving/pool trucks? I was going to opt for indy 149s but the mini logos sound interesting!
Hi Richard
Many thanks for tuning in.
I like the Indies for pure carving feel. If you set them fairly loose they can turn really tight !!
The mini logo trucks I find are ace for street and mini ramp.
Good luck, let me know how you get on.
I’ve recorded quite a few vids on carving and bowl riding if you fancy a peak?
Best JB
@@JonBishopSkate Ah awesome! I already have some Indy 149s on a different setup so will give them a go first on the new deck and see how I feel, thanks for the advice.
Yeah just been watching loads of your vids this afternoon, will be tuning back in for sure.
Hi Fellow older guy learning to skate .love your videos I used to love bones big balls but now in love with Bronson G3 bearings they are ausome give me a crack Ben 41 Australia also ride flight deck they are the best
Wicked! Yeah I’ve heard great things about the Bronson’s! Many thanks for tuning in dude!
Your channel is great man it's good to see someone who started older making progress, one question though how did you find the concave on the flight deck? I want to try one
Que hermosa tabla la anderson!!!! lastima que aca donde vivo (Argentina) sea muy dificil y caro de conseguir. Abrazo!
34yo, 6' and 230lbs. I fell on my arse/small of my back from a stiff landing on a bs180 ollie 5 days ago, its still hurts to stand/sit. Can't wait til I'm fit again 🤕
Sorry to hear that, but that’s the spirit !!
@@JonBishopSkate Cheers mate. Today ain't the day, tomorrow maybe. I'm itching to get going
Really good video
Many thanks for tuning in !
A bit late to your party... But wicked dude... Am about to order my first andy deck. I appreciate the video. Yew..!
I'm on the Bones Swiss Super 6 right now (the blue ones/big balls) and I think they're my favorite bearing I've ridden so far.
Yeah, I love the Blue Big Balls, I’ve got them on both setups !!
@@JonBishopSkate I'm going to have to do the same. Riding a Black Label 8.25" deck (54mm 104a wheels, stage 144 titanium indys with 1/8" risers) right now, but I just picked up an 8.45" Andy Anderson flight deck to set up as a more bowl/pool-focused setup. I just got back into skating this summer after 15 years off, and am realizing that I absolutely love skating transition. Love your vids - great attitude and determination, it's entertaining and inspiring.
JAPR.rar many thanks for the kind works dude!
Yeah I was keen to have the one setup for everything, but having one for street/small trannie and one for bowls and big trannie seems to work really well?
@@JonBishopSkate I'm kind of hoping that putting some 56mm wheels on the anderson flight deck and using titanium indys again will give me enough of a balance between weight and solidity that I can get away with just the one deck, but time will tell.
@@japrar I also ride/love the 144 Titanium Indys on 8.25; tried on my 8.45 AA w/ 53mm, 54mm, and 55mm trucks w/ 1/8” risers; didn’t really like anything over 54mm for flat ground/street, but 55’s were great for the mini ramp and great in the bowl. I ended up going w the mini logo 8.38 (which are lower trucks)-but soooooo lightweight. Putting a 1/2” riser w 55mm wheels felt similar to Titanium Indys, but was really blown away by how much better the mini logo’s felt on the mini ramp. I even experimented going straight up low trucks, no risers w 53mm wheels and it’s been the first board I’ve ever been able do manuals on, skate flat + bowls and the mini ramp, and keep adding tricks / progressing with in each of those settings.
Again, 144 Indy Forged Titanium, great lightweight truck (53.5mm height?)... But the Mini Logo 8.38” have been a huge surprise and unexpectedly responsive - turning and grinding as good as my Indys, but gave me manuals (pop out of the pool / mini ramp to manual and launch back in) is a rad trick I could never nail on the Indys
HEY JON! AWESOME VIDEO. WHAT IS YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE? SURFSKATE OR SKATEBOARD THE BOWL AND WHY?
I ride the skateboard mostly, but the SurfSkate is fun also.
Thanks for the video! And explaining your reasons. I'm currently contemplating an Andy heron as well(for transition) Good to hear such good things. BTW.. this vids from 3yrs ago! Have you progressed from this board or u got another setup? Cheers!
Hey dude
Yeah, I still use this exact board for Vert and the 7 ply version for the Bowl. 6 months ago I got Andy’s new Egg board. Here is my video of the progress, this is where my skating is now compared to three years ago?
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@@JonBishopSkate Do you notice a big diff in weight? Would the Flight be fine for bowl as well? (For a mediocre old guy)
@@arielvillaverde8813 yeah, it’s just a feel thing, I like the 7 ply flex, but it’s personal preference!
Cant seem to find these decks anywhere now i hope they make some more
Yeah, not sure why?? I hope there are more soon so I can grab a spare !!
yesterday i learnt how to do a talewip on my scoot
Great work dude !!
Hi Jon, I was wondering if you ever have any difficulty with wheels sliding about on indoor ramps? Do you have to switch out your wheels going from concrete bowls to waxy indoor skateparks?? I've been riding the Anderson flight deck too and enjoy a 58mm wheel, perhaps what I've been riding is too firm a durometer for slick surfaces...
Yeah dude, most dudes at the local ride between 97a and 99a. The more experienced dudes seem to make the harder wheels work whatever? I sort of know what I can get away with on the wood with the Spitfire 99a, but the Spitfire are a magic wheel IMO and grips way better than it’s duro would suggest?
@@JonBishopSkate Fair play Jon.. I've had my eye on some Spitfire 97a's which I'm going to go for to sit in for my Bones SPF's when I'm skating indoor parks. Thanks for the advice and the stoke man!!
duddde, I love videos like this where u go over your setups.... I've started a lil collection myself of boards and parts for different things lol ...my current setup is a 10"×30" 7ply with indy 169mm 1/2" risers and AWOL 63mm wheels and bones red ...decent for me but I recently got a 10×30 5ply and I'm looking to mess with different wheel sizes and no risers ....
Wicked, those sound like fun setups!!
@@JonBishopSkate thanks dude as u know it's all about experimentation and seeing what's sweet! anyways thanks again mate! keep rippin!!! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🤙🤙
Hey man I was only looking for information on the Peralta x Andy Anderson "Heron" deck but I really enjoyed hearing about your skate experience + background. Seeing the different boards you went through and your retroactive takes on each one was really cool!
As far as the Andy Anderson boards, it was awesome that you went over two different setups and that you're sticking with them! I'm about to pick up my first one myself but I was wondering if you knew anything about what the freestyle guys might put on their Heron... My quick background is that I'm a relatively novice skater. I've used a "Dusters Locos Chaz 32" Cruiser Complete" (VERY sick board by the way, but it's a little hard to find) as my favorite mode of transportation whenever I have to go somewhere (unless it's for work or it's raining/snowing). I've ridden for probably 4 or 5 years now all over my town and the next one over, and I've been to skate parks maybe a few dozen times so I'm quite comfortable with a lot of the basics. Only thing is I never took tricks too seriously, part of the reason being that my cruiser is a little on the big side which is a tad intimidating (8.625" width and 60mm wheels).
I've recently been trying hard to improve my skills and repertoire but I fractured my ankle 😁 (riding up a pretty smooth curb with poor posture! I didn't even fall off the board, the pain hit while I was standing on it... If you or anyone else also has advice on how to prevent that or why it happened, it would mean a lot. My friend just said it's a lack of balance and that I put all my weight on the back foot with no follow through. I kind of understand but I'm not sure how exactly I could prevent that going forward. Is it just a matter of bending my knees? I think I might have unknowingly been standing like I would be for a manual which I was practicing a lot in the 2 days prior to my injury)
Anyways, since I'm still a novice skater I thought it would be sweet if I could work on both street and FREESTYLE stuff, with the goal of being able to combine the two. I'm also intrigued by freestyle skating because I don't think I've ever really seen it in my area. I want to incorporate that style into my street and vert skating. Any advice on putting it together so it can do most of the things I described? If not, it's all good. Your advice on optimizing it for bowls vs ramps is super appreciated and I'll go off of your setups when I'm ready to put it together for a day of serious bowl or vert skating bro! You're the man for this video dude, I truly cannot thank you enough and I'll be sure to binge your 60 day challenge and other videos as I rest and recover! You're an inspiration 🔥
Nice one dude! Yeah love the Heron, lucky to have got a back up, I think they are hard to come by as of now??
@@JonBishopSkate thanks dude and they sure are, I only found a little stash of them on eBay (shhhh don't tell anyone). I decided I'll actually be picking up 2 as well (an 8.45" and a 9.13") which I'm really really stoked about 🤘 I cannot wait until my leg heals 😂
First Last sounds good dude.
Not sure on the ankle, sounds like a strange one for sure, I’ve rolled both mine a couple of times and it’s my least favourite injury as it stops you skating, for knees I just tape them up and carry on.
Not sure on the pure freestyle setup, but Andy uses the 9inch Heron with 8.75 mini logo trucks and 54mm 99a wheels for his freestyle work??
A Rodney Mullen style setup would be a much narrower board and trucks?
Good luck with it, sounds like some good goals there !!
First Last p.s Andy’s comment is the next one down from yours! I found it super interesting he optimismises his setups for discipline. After watching a lot of his video parts I just thought he used the same setup for everything!!
@@JonBishopSkate yeah I finally found him talking about his setup a teensy bit in an NKA Vids Skateboarding video: "amazing secret skatepark with Andy Anderson and friends" @ 2:08. He just briefly mentions he's using his street set-up which includes 53mm 99a Bones STF wheels and some big balls bearings. For any further advice, I'll check out some message boards + content pertaining to Andy's setup when he was riding his previous Powell Peralta board (if it was good enough for him 4 or 5 years ago, it will be more than good enough for me lol).
And that's just awesome that he commented too, he's easily one of my favorite skaters. That's just wild to me
What skatepark is that at 4:28?
Good video by the way👍
Hey dude, it’s Henley Skatepark built by Mavericks. It’s ace and really manageable to learn on! Only been that once, got to get back there ASAP !!
Nice setups! What’s the durometer of your 60mm wheels?
Hey dude
97a, I now favour the 99a Formula 4’s
Thanks for sharing! What hardness are the OJ wheels on the Anderson board?
Hey dude
97a on the OJ, I have since changed to 99a Spitfire F4’s ?
@@JonBishopSkate Thanks, keep it up!
Awesome video. Thanks! Really useful info.
Also an older, taller skater, I'm now only really looking at bowls and transition for the sake of my knees and ankles. I've been looking at wider boards with a longer wheelbase for stability. Was trying to decide between the Madness decks and the 246 Flight/Andy Anderson stuff from Powell. Your vid saved me from experimenting, I'll be going straight for Andy's 9" model. Many thanks. 👍
I've heard that the flight decks can be nasty for splinters when you get down to the composite layers. Is that something you've experienced?
Hey Dude,
Many thanks for tuning in.
Yeah, I found the flight decks to be awesome all round. The durability is really great, I am big and clumsy and crash a lot and the deck is in really good shape. Andy designed the tail to be able to be sanded back once it gets a bit of razor on it as it’s square. It’s a really big tail so you don’t miss the quarter-inch when it’s sanded back?! I’m 6,3 and the 15” base feels really good for the bowl!
@@JonBishopSkate Sounds great. Now if I could just find somewhere that has them in stock...
Good video
Many thanks for tuning in dude !!
Awesome video, with your wheels what's the hardness of the ones you use for bowls do you prefer a softer or harder wheel
Hey dude,
Lately I’m riding the 58mm 99a duro Spitfire Classics. They work well on wood and concrete, anything harder tends to slip out on the wood ??
Hi Jon! Just wanted to ask you if you would add some wheelbase to the Andy Anderson deck. I was wondering if the setup would get akward if I moved the truck about 1 inch forward. Your thoughts?
Hey dude, yeah, I guess it depends on how much you do on the nose. The problem with moving the front truck is it’ll mess with the nose pocket ?? There is about 2 fingers of flat on the nose so you should be able to re-drill an inch forward? Maybe a little less? The WB is fairly long all-ready at 15” ? What’s your reason/thinking of going to 16”? Might be better to go for a deck with a 16” WB? Dogtown and Anti Hero do some nice LWB decks??
Hey Jon, nice video and very nice boards! A friend is planning to give me some 60mm Kryptonics. I might get myself some new trucks to match as mine won't ride straight now. Indy's seem to be popular for bowls and transition which I'm more and more into. What height truck shoul I go for to go with 60mm wheels and should I get risers if trucks are loose? I do have some 1/4 inch risers but not sure Inwould need thicker ones to avoid wheelbite
Also, have you come across a similar all round deck like the Andy Anderson but not so expensive. Currently riding a street oriented popsicle which I'm used to but thinking to get something a bit wider and with larger wheel base for transition
Hey dude,
Yeah independent trucks with a quarter inch riser will be ace.
I like the Welcome Vargas, half the price of the Anderson
@@JonBishopSkate thanks man. I like the look of the Vargas board. Also tempted by the Powell-Peralta flight deck as an option. Can see the benefit of the stiffness for pumping
Ouch, just looked at the price tag for the flight decks
Hi John, would you advise getting a smaller 8’6 board for mini ramps next to my pool setup winkowski aquatic night (10”)? And do the smaller 54mm wheels have any influence on potential hang-ups?
Hey Dude
Yeah, I run a different setup for the small mini, verse bowls and big trannie. 9” is as low as I go cause I’ve got big flappy feet 😂 55mm feel good to me for street and mimi, I use 58mm for everything else!
@@JonBishopSkate thnx Jon!
I like this guy. Subbed 👍
Great video Jon, I could relate to every word of that being a 49 year old late skater myself! What size trucks and wheels did you use on the Roskopp, did you use a riser too?
Hey Jason
I had Indy 169 trucks and 61mm OJ team rider 97a wheels on the a Roscopp. It was ace !!
Jon Bishop thanks Jon, think I’m gonna try that setup. Keep this channel going, it’s so inspirational, just what I needed!
Very good and useful video. How tall are you? I am also coming from a Surfing background an I will definitely learn from your experience to try finding the perfect match for me with my second skateboard. Thanks!
Hey dude. I’m on the taller side 6’3” or 191 cm
Hi Jon. Loving the content. What duro are your wheels for your bowl setup?
Hey Dude
They are 97a, I ride indoors on wood as well as the concrete and they are a happy medium for both. They could be harder for just the concrete, but the wood gets super slippy on the harder duro?!
@@JonBishopSkate Perfect, I wasn't sure if 97a would be a bit slow on a wood bowl but that's great thanks. I'll get me a pair of those. Between 58mm and 60mm.
Aran Nearn yeah the OJ teamriders 97a come up a bit harder. The slimeball 97a are really fast !!
@@JonBishopSkate I was looking at the Slime Balls but I'll check out the OJs too
Hi Jon, I also have a surfing background and want to get into skating, bowlskating especially. I own a normal skateboard a friend gifted to me. On that I learned drop ins, little to medium carves, pumping and kick turns. I can also do tiny ollies, but that's pretty much it. I'm not too focused on the street skating, doing flipping tricks and that stuff, my main goal is to get good at riding bowls, step up my carving and start a few lip tricks. Now I want to get a suitable board. Ideally a whole set up. Would the Santa Cruz roskopp shape be a good beginners bowl riders choice or is that maybe too advanced? And any recommendations on trucks/wheels? - Love your videos btw!!
Great stuff dude,
Yeah, anything you like the look of will work a treat, I like 9.2 to 9.5 ish wide. A shaped board with a fatter tail may inspire confidence and get you stoked on the surf look. A longer wheel base (15inch) may also afford you a wider stance and more stability. See if you can grab a go on a mates bowl style setup and then if you like it get one of those! Bigger wheels (58 to 60mm) and a grippy duro (97a) also helps, slimeballs are fast and come in every size and colour. Indy trucks turn great and a 1/4 riser will stop the wheel bite. Santa Cruz do some great looking pre-issues, the 9.5 pre issue goes really well and has a nice concave and a useable nose kick. The flight boards last well and there are plenty of crackers, you may well get on well with the 9.2 I feature here ? Let me know how you get on, happy shopping !!
Interesting vid mate, it's great hearing about other peeps setups. I just got myself a bowl setup. 8.5 deck, bigger than I normally skate but no where near some of the ones you've used. How tall are you out of interest? Keep up the great work!🤙
Hey dude, many thanks for tuning in. I’m 6’3” taller than the average skater possibly? Not sure it’s an advantage lol
@@JonBishopSkate I'm a little smaller at 6'1. The 8.5 for bowls is definitely more stable. I've always used 8.25 for all my other skating. I do like the look of that Anderson deck, he's such ab amazing skater!
Great video my man - have a like and a sub - you've earned it!
Many thanks for tuning in dude!
What wheels do you use for your bowl riding? 60mm ojs? I currently have 58mm bones spf 104a and I'm finding them a little slippy. Anything you would suggest? Was looking at Santa Cruz slime balls.
Hey Dude
Yeah 61mm OJs
I am also testing out some Spitfire OG 99a 58mm which are ace. Can’t go wrong with Slimeballs, fast and plenty of grip !! Anything around 97a to 99a will be better for grip !!
@@JonBishopSkate I went with some 56mm 97a slimeballs. Definitely can notice the difference in speed but the extra grip is making me carve into my turns tighter. Wish I had gone 58+ but 56 was biggest I could find!
how, how did you manage to get not only one, but TWO ANDY ANDERSON DECKS. the one I had took like a year to find.
Hey dude, got pretty lucky, I asked my local skate shop to Order one in, And luckily the uk importers had some !
Real skateboards Tommy Guerrero 9'77 Paris trucks 169
Bones 60mm
Bones Super Reds
Indy bushings (Hard)
Elephant Mike Valelly Dresden 10'
Paris Trucks
Spitfire 59mm
Bones Reds
Indy bushings (medium)
Streetman 8'50
Thunder Trucks
Elephant 58 mm 103a
Spitfire Burners
Bones bushings (medium)
And various decks lying around.
I mainly skate parks
Thanks for the upload mate
Great setups there !!
@@JonBishopSkate cheers mate,keep up the good work man!
Board porn! Awesome video dude.
I'm on a polar 1992 shape deck the now - 9.25 at the front bolts and 8.25 at the back. Indy 169s and formula 4 58mm wheels. I'm progressing well on mini ramp, I reckon helped out by the massive landing pad for my front foot! Feels super safe.
Also when I step on a popsicle shape now I feel bored lol
Sounds great! Landing pad !!
how wide are the widest points on the board? which size did you get?
Hey
The Anderson is 9.13” at its widest point, many thanks for tuning in!!
@@JonBishopSkate on the small or big one?
because i messaged powell and they said the small one is 8.45 on the waist
@@originaljesse 8.45 is the smaller one. I ride the one Andy does which is the bigger 9.13
Hey dude,
My latest video compares both if you fancy a peak?
th-cam.com/video/KFSkjQs4lAU/w-d-xo.html
Roskopp!
Hello excuse me for my bad English, I am from France
Can you tell me what truck size and wheels do you use on the andy anderson board 9,13?
Because I buy one 👍 thanks for your videos
Hey dude
159 Independent trucks and 159 mini logo trucks. Andy Anderson uses the 159 mini logo on his 9.13 setup
@@JonBishopSkate thanks
And wheels? 56 mm ?
@@waltersarret379 55mm for street and 60mm for the bowl
@@JonBishopSkate thanks you 💪💪👍👍
We’re both Andy Anderson decks a 9.0?
Hey dude, yeah both the same 9.14 inch version, cheers
Give em
Do you have 5-0 stall yet? I mean the kind with no pivot balance but something like this th-cam.com/video/QfR3xxY5odI/w-d-xo.html. I got one the other night but I just need to get one now that i can stand on for good.
Hey dude, yeah got them Fakie back and front and regular back plus back side nose stall Fakie.
Trick 4 in this vid is the Fakie B/S stall
th-cam.com/video/d5usAoeuckk/w-d-xo.html
oh those i got. i meant going up regular
Yeah, no vid on those, but it’s the same technique for coming back in, the coming in was the hard bit I found?
Jesus no wonder you fall so much, look at those wheel bite spots!!! LOL
I recommend some 1/4 risers my friend.
I sanded back the wheel wells with a dremel to stop wheelbite, not really necessary with mini logo trucks and 55mm wheels so an experiment that turned out to be a folly. The reason I fall off a lot is cause I like to learn new tricks and I’m relatively inexperienced. My bowl setup has 1/4inch risers, one thing I can say is I’ve never come off from wheel bite luckily!!
@@JonBishopSkate ah I see, that's a nifty idea
Nod off? What??
Ha, ‘Not half’ as in the whole thing 😂
half these board in too good condition....