HOW TO REPLACE TIMING CHAINS ON CADILLAC CTS 3.6L (DAY 1)
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GM 3.6L P0008 / P0017 CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR • GM 3.6L P0008 / P0017 ...
Hey Folks! Welcome back to the channel. In this part one of the video series, I'll show the first half of how to replace timing chains on the 3.6L in our 2007 Cadillac CTS. We had to replace the timing chains because of codes P0008 and P0017. Be sure to subscribe and hit the bell to get notified when part two comes out. The 3.6L (Alloytec, high feature, HFV6) motor also came in the Cadillac SRX, STS, GMC Acadia, Buick Enclave, and Chevy Malibu, among others.
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GM 3.6L P0008 / P0017 CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR - Cadillac CTS
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Parts List
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Thanks for checking out the video. Be sure to look for part 2 in the description. Leave your questions down below and I'll do my best to answer them. And don't forget to like and subscribe 👍
Hey thanks for the guide. Just wondering where I could find the shop manual for this job for my 2010 sts
@@theJohnDorie You're welcome 👍 You could try a dealership or maybe look on ebay.
Gotta 2004 Cadillac CTS 3.6l gonna get into for the 3rd time but most definitely recommend this video an part 2
Watched parts 1 and 2 multiple times. These and a couple other videos helped a great deal in replacing timing chains for my 2008 Cadillac CTS 3.6L. It had 141k miles on it so I replaced the oil pump and water pump while I was at it. Great videos and thanks for documenting your project.
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You can pick up these CTS cheap enough NOW I know WHY! Lots of labor involved...Great Video Presentation by the way!
Thanks for the kind words👍
Don't be such a baby, be a man. Fix the car
My 2006 cts has 96k miles and I'm gonna be using this video to guage the workload, I can hear the timing chain chatter when I start the car. The video is VERY helpful thank you for taking the time to make this!
Awesome 👍 I'm glad the video is helpful. Good luck with your car.
Great video. Thanks so so much for posting. Really took your time and were super patient with all the explanations. I have 2010 cts4 with about 35k miles. And it just started to give me a blinking check engine light at about 75-80mph on the freeway which I drive daily to work for about 20 miles each way. Runs a bit rough at the same time. I'll slow down a bit and everything returns to normal. I have a sneaky suspicion I'll be doing this same thing sooner than later. So...anyway Thanks again for taking the time to post. Super helpful.
Thank you, I'm glad the video was valuable. I hope your timing chains last longer than ours did (88k miles)
Thanks for the video. I used this to replace the chains in my 2010 CTS. There are some slight differences in the newer ones, Intake manifold is different, Harmonic balancer requires a 3 jaw, and the front cover is a little different. But this video does point you in the right direction. The biggest difference and mistake I made was buying the 50273 valve cover gasket set he recommends. The left side is different so only one of them worked for my application, my fault I should have done my homework on the gaskets before ordering and not assumed they were the same.
Thank you👍
Currently tackling this same job in an Acadia. I appreciate all the detail.
Best of luck👍
wisconsin? cuz im from eau claire. and watching this video thinking about picking up one of these cars to fix this
Best detail on this job I’ve seen. Thanks for the tips
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Let me say Thank You for the video. I have a CTS with the 3.6L engine and have watched a couple of these just to let me know what I will deal with when the time comes. The only problem I had is the volume is very low. This might be a problem with my laptop also but other videos play louder. Looking forward to Part 2...Duane
Thank you for the feedback👍 The sound issue was probably on my end.
You're a God Send, I like you were going out was the sensors but I like you are going to have to replace the timing chain lol.
Hey man, great video. In my opinion, the best one I have seen so far. I just want to mention that the Cloyes timing chain set only works for the 07 CTS 3.6 with the Second Design Engine Only. After starting this job on my 07 CTS 3.6 I noticed that my chains and sprockets were completely different from yours. As per Cloyes themselves, they only make chains for the 07 CTS 3.6 with the Second Design Engines.
Thank you! I didn't realize the Cloyes kit was only for the '07 3.6L.
I know this is a long time later but is there any way to tell which of the two you have before pulling everything apart
@KevinNadeau Sorry to bother....how do you know if you have first or second edition?
Thanks for the great video using it before getting started on a saab 2.8, same chain.
Best of luck 👊
Great video. Appreciate the details! Any solutions on the poor ventilation? I heard about an alternate gasket that helps.
WOULD YOU BELIEVE THE CADILLAC DEALERSHIP HERE IN NASHVILLE TENNESSEE WANTED &5500.00 TO REPLACE MY 2008 CTS TIMING CHAIN! MY MECHANIC DID REPLACED THE TIMING CHAIN, REPLACED THE WATER PUMP, ALTERNATOR, SPARK PLUGS, NEW BELTS-EVERYTHING-WITH QUALITY NAPA PARTS-FOR $2300.00! ITS BEEN A YEAR AND EVERYTHING RUNS SUPER SMOOTH! IF YOU CANT FIX IT YOURSELF, CHECK AROUND! THESE DEALERSHIPS WILL ROB YOU!
Excellent video Kevin, thanks. Engine looks well maintained so the crankcase ventilation theory seems plausible. I have a vue with a 3.6, lots of power but I know the timing chains are a ticking time bomb lol
Thank you! The oil was routinely changed by my grandfather-in-law. With only ~89k miles on the car, I was very surprised the timing chains went so early.
I have a 2007 cadillac sts. Just got these codes and engine is a little vibrating. Appreciate these videos.
Hope the videos are helpful. Good luck with your car 👍
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Thank ya so much for the Vid! Have you found a way to fix the poor Crankshaft Ventilation or came up with a theory to fix it?
Thank you!!!
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Thanks used this on my korean 2006 CTS-V supercharged
thank you for the video
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Did your check engine light remain on after u changed the camshaft position sensors? Is that what made you know it was your timing chain cause that’s what I did?
So I'm about to jump into this myself. Purchased it with this issue known. But I'm thinking mine will require head removal, bent valves etc. Anyway I would really appreciate it if you could let me know where you got write up you're referring to.
I have a gasket problem. Oil is getting on the driver side number 2 spark plug. Causing a single misfire. Q? Is it possible to take out the driver side cylinder head without removing all of the timing chain. How can I just remove that side timing chain shoes and tensioner? Just enough to loosen the chain to get the head off put on a new gasket. Slap it back together. Shade tree Style. Awesome video. Thanks.
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is there a way to loosen the chain to get to the rocker arms without removing the chain cover?
How do I know if I need to replace just the timing chain? Right before the car stopped running, the engine made a knocking sound, we found oil in the spark plugs, and when I stepped on the gas it felt like the car was having a hard time accelerating.
Same car I have thanks man
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Great videos and instructions Kevin, I think the audio was perfectly fine. I have 2012 CTS 3.0L and I have an exhaust valve issue and will need to pull the heads. I'm no mechanic but like working on the car and having accomplishments. What service manual do you recommend?
Good luck with your car. I was using a manual from Mitchell Pro Demand, but it's a subscription based service. I would recommend the factory service manual.
did you put the car in neutral before doing the project?
I’ve done 4.6 6 times. Nice work though
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We took the lower intake manifold off also, but there only two bolts holding it down, is that correct?
I believe you're correct 👍
Hey I have some questions can I dm you or something just want to get some of your thoughts on the matter
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Hello, Crank bolt has been difficult to remove and chain does go in reverse a couple times when trying? Is that going to throw everything off?
I think as long as you line up the timing dots on both side (and both stages) when everything goes back together, you should be ok.
What is the part number for the flywheel holding tool, and where did you get it? Did you need to use it? Thanks!
Yes, you will definitely need the holding tool. Its a Kent Moore EN 46106. I got mine from eBay, but you can do a Google search for one too.
Same codes on my 08 cts. Just put new brakes on all around last week. Car runs completely fine. No noise. No performance issues. Terrible time for me to get this fixed or buy something else. What’s your opinion on running a little heavier oil / or / driving softly and making sure I have a lot of oil? Do I have a chance? Pulled sensors and cleaned them. But codes came back. Haven’t tried replacing yet. Would you try that first as well? This level of mechanic is wayyy over my head/ garage to do this myself. I wish!
Thinner oil is better in these engines, not thicker.
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Where are you located? I want to bring you mine! Seriously. Thanks!
Sir, when you removing the drivers side valve cover did you have a strip of hard wiring attached to the valve cover blocking the third bolt? (from right to left) of so how the hell do we remove it? Lol I also bought my stuff through your link, too help you because you've helped me tremendously!
The front of the valve covers have 2 plastic shields that the cam sensor wires are tucked through the window.. These 2 shields, covers or harness mounts, (1 each side) has a locking tab at its bottom edge that you can stick a flat-head screwdriver into and twist it lightly to unlock it (then pull it straight upward 1 inch to loosen.. You should be able to see this little locking tab from the face side of them with a flashlight. (I call them cam sensor covers, but really its there for the 'ECM1 harness' mounting.)
P.S I have some vid's going on my channel recently about the LY7 3.6 which has a 2 4 6 misfire and no other codes, whereas; I show these cam covers and I give some details about the ECM1 harness while its on a table. tc : )
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that service manual might be for the other motor they put in these, i think its 2.6 liter motor. thats why a couple little things are different
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I replaced my crank shaft sensor and my cam shaft sensor hoping it would fix the problem n it was actually the timing chain the whole time lol. I am going to fix that asap cause the miss fires are annoying
Good luck with the timing chains 👍
@KevinNadeau Do you remember what the thread size was, on the harmonic balancer?
No I didn’t, sorry
2007 sts 100,000 on engine said ignored check engine codes shut off while driving believes timing chain went is it worth messing with $800 i can buy car for in great shape!
How did you get the harmonic balancer off without turning over the engine ?
I used my impact wrench IIRC.
I have the same car. Mine has 227,000 miles. Still runs strong. How many miles did yours have on it?
Hey Travis! I'm glad to hear your car is going strong. Ours only had about 87k miles before I had the change the timing chains.
Thanks to teaching me more i will like work with you if you want
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Hi need help with my 2008 srx cadillac am not sure of the timing chain replacement pls
I'm not familiar with the SRX. If it has the same 3.6l V6 then I'm guessing the timing would be the same as I showed in my videos.
Hello brother thank you for the great video,…. Do you know how long the repair lasted for?
And also, could you please help me to locate that repair manual you have ??… I cannot get to it on that website that you posted the link to it…… how much was it? Is it the whole service manual or just a timing chain replacement?… Thank Sir!!
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Which side of the engine is timing chain located on 2010 Cadillac srx
3.6 engine?
The 2010 SRXs came with the 2.8 or 3.0 engines if I’m not mistaken.
Hello. When unscrewing the crankshaft pulley bolt, do you need to block the shaft in any way?
I don’t remember having to block it when taking the bolt off, but you’ll need to use a special tool to hold the flywheel when you put the new bolt in and torque it.
@@KevinNadeau thanks for the answer
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Is the passenger side bank 1 on this engine? I can't remember.
Yes, bank 1 is the side where cylinder 1 is. And that is the passenger side 👍
Do you have any suggestions or recommendations for women who don't know about cars and prices what's fair and when they are over charging?
I would suggest getting multiple quotes for the job from reputable shops around your area. A timing chain job isn't going to be inexpensive...when I got a quote, it was about $3k, which is why I decided to tackle this job myself.
Best of luck with your car.
Where did you find the instruction booklet that walks your through the step by step?
It came from a subscription-based online site
What site@@KevinNadeau
I’m going to say easy. No dropping the subframe to get the balancer off like the 4.6
Where did you get the manual you’re following? That would be very helpful
It was from a subscription-based service. Shoot me an email and I'll send you a copy.
@@KevinNadeau which address, or where to find Kevin?
@@Hiflier68 kevinnadeau@hotmail.com
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Where can I get a flywheel holding tool. Please answer if you can.
I found mine on ebay
Do you know what the smaller bolt sizes are in the harmonic balancer?
I’m sorry, I don’t know what size they are.
I found out they are M8 1.25 thread for those of us that use the other type of puller
@@paulcarlino744 Awesome, thanks for sharing!
What's the easiest way to determine if my timing chain is my problem and needs replaced?
I think the best way to diagnose would be with a fancy scan tool. Otherwise, if you have a P0008 or P0017, replace the camshaft position sensors, but the codes don't go away, it's probably a good assumption that its the chains.
This job can be done from the top
Where did you get your shop manual?
It was an online subscription.
Hi there, can you share the manual that's in your hands?
Shoot me an email kevinnadeau@hotmail.com
Where did you get your repair guide?
I have an affiliate link in the description where you can get a service manual.
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Duck Hunt. I need to replace my timing chain on my 08 Caddy SRX. I am not looking forward to it.
You got it. Just make sure you order the correct kit for your car. Best of luck, you can do it 👍
Where did you get the diagram book?
It was from an online subscription-based service.
Hey around how much did this cost you ?
I want to say around $600 total.
where can i find the book that explains how to do this?
Shoot me an email, I may be able to point you in the right direction kevinnadeau@hotmail.com
@@KevinNadeau mind if i do same? Lol, that would be a huge help.
If it jumps time does it bend the valves
Our valves weren't bent as far as I could tell.
If that engine is an interference design and it jumped enough to where a piston would hit a valve . The chains were stretched . They did not jump or break .
Do u mind if I ask do u know arpund how much this would cost in a shop
We were quoted about $3k from a local shop.
@@KevinNadeau it books at 8.4 hours per ProDemand
Did you ever sell the flywheel lock
Yes, it has been sold.
Where did you get the manual? I need to fo the same repair.
Send me an email kevinnadeau@hotmail.com
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How is that puppy holding up since the change
We actually traded in the car.
Hey we’re could I get that book at?
Send me an email
What kit is that I gotta order it please let me know
I have another video with a break down of the parts.
can you make the crank vent holes bigger to solve the problem? i would think you could drill it out two sizes bigger without any lost of metal strength but give it some better breathing.
That would seem reasonable.
@@KevinNadeau I was looking at buying one of these cars since I saw the price dropped in them, but seeing these horror stories about the timing chains and seeing how much it would cost to have them done I don't know anymore.
@@imcrazyforwar Glad to hear you're doing your research before buying👍
@@KevinNadeau I learned the hard way not to get burned on auto repairs just cuz I think a car is cool looking LOL
What's the repair cost ?
Sorry we didn't learn anything from this but good video
Did you watch the day 2 video?
Where can I get that same manual please.
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Great video but I had a hard time hearing you at different points
Do you drain the engine oil to do this job? 😅
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I’ll take that as a no. Lol I ask because I took out the harmonic balancer bolt and some oil spilled out. But only a bit.
Thanks for the response, I think 😂
Now back to the job
@@UPDOG350 I would drain and change the oil if you replace the timing chains 👍
I tackled it in my 2007 Caddy SRX but now after 50 miles codes are back, any suggests?
Have you changed the camshaft position sensors? Hope the timing chain didn't skip a tooth or two while it was getting put back together.
Replaced Camshaft sensors and waiting on crank shaft sensor to get here, if that doesn't do the trick it's back to tearing it back down!
I am no expert , but before I would year it down again , I would find a high end tech who knows how to use a lab scope and pay to have it analyzed . IATN may have a list . Bernie Thompson from ATS - Automotive Training Solutions -may also have shops that use his scopes . Be careful which parts are going in there . They can show you if the chains are off a tooth or stretched . This is not for a grease pit with hammers and screwdrivers or a $ 100 code reader . Good Luck .
OK dumb blonde question, but where did you find that manual? I am trying to watch this with a wild toddler so I may have missed it lol
You can get a complete service manual with the link in the description box. If you use the coupon code ENGINE30 you can save 30% this month.
Great video to convince me not to buy anything with this engine in it. I'm looking for what car to buy used and always look at repair videos to give me an idea of the future repair jobs.
Well there you go 👍👍
Where do I get that book that you have?
Send me an email
@@KevinNadeau I have a 07 cadillac sts pretty sure it's the same 3.6 motor. Where did you get that book im planning to replace the timing chain myself in the near future.
@@jaimemartinez7520 It was from a paid online website called ProDemand.
I hope my 07 doesn't have different sprockets i heard they redesigned some models from starting 2007
Daaamn rookie take a week to change a 6 hour timing chains !!
Haha, no doubt 🤣 This was my first time doing chains on this platform, so I was taking my time. And spending time filming the process for everyone's benefit 👍
How much does this job cost?
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If the chain snapped on the passenger side. How can I set the timing?
My car is a 2008 srx
how many miles?
It had about 88k miles when we replaced the chains😲
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