Rijeka is not Dalmacija, it's Kvarnera. Dalmacija starts in Zadar and finnishes in Dubrovnik. And for Slavic (Croatian) MAJORITY The Italian occupation is a bitter memory. They treated US like slow children, domestic languages and names were forbidden and The black shirts units terrorized every one who dares speaking Croatian. They had cute nickname for US, "schiavi", it means "slave". Justice came in The year 1945,italians are bitchin till today how they were victims of red terror
A few more facts about my beloved city... Ernesto Che Guevara was in Rijeka in early 60s, Mussolini gave us one of the most beautiful churches, one of our buildings was financed by Al Capone, the torpedo was first manufactured and first tests were performed in Rijeka. HMS Carpathia was on the direct line from Rijeka to NY when Titanic's disaster happened and one of only 3-4 remaining life jackets is located in our Naval History Museum in Rijeka. The legendary Alfa Romeo Aerospider that was superior to German AutoUnion, the only one ever made was invented and made in Rijeka by Jankovics brothers. ( They won the race, Adolf got furious, so Jankovics brothers had to flee to Italy to save their lives. After all, they made Benito very happy.) Rijeka indeed is a specia place to be. Krepat ma ne molat!
that is why on 14:00 min we see an archive photo of a bridge across a river, which is surely not fiume/rijeka, but a photo found by somebody typing "fiume" into a search engine
FUN FACT: *River that divided Italian Fiume (Rijeka) and Yugoslavian Sušak is called RJEČINA (Italian: Eneo; German: Flaum)* This river has often been the border between different states. The first time this happened was from the 13th to 16th centuries, when it formed the border between the Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen and the Habsburgs. A similar thing happened in 1868, when the Rječina became the border between the Croatian and Hungarian parts of Austria-Hungary. After World War I it became for a very short time the border between the Free State of Fiume and the Kingdom of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes//Kingdom of Yugoslavia. After the Free State of Fiume was annexed by Italy, the Rječina became the border river of that country. Since World War II, the Rječina has no longer been a border between states.
It's because it's one of the most unknown pages of Italian history, always untold in school and never mentioned in official history books (or appearing with a simple mention never digging into the part communist, feminist and anarchist movements had in it). The whole history of fiume was pretty censored untill the '90s when it stared to appear in some accredited books.
- Nudist - Yoga - Lived in a tree house - Had a pet eagle - Had a socialist ideology A man truly ahead of its time, a pretentious hipster before it was cool.
I read that citizens of Fiume at that time were able to speak fluently at least 4 or 5 different languages. Even the illiterate ones were able to communicate in italian, croatian, hungarian, german....It's so impressive.
My husband’s Grandmother was a young girl in Fiume during the period mentioned in the video, having been born in 1903, so Fiume is an interesting part of my husband’s family history, though we had no idea HOW interesting. Thanks for this great video. It’ll definitely give us something to talk about at Christmas!
*Lenin takes one look at Fiume.* "Yeah, I can get behind this." *Meanwhile, two naked Italians drive behind him in an Futurist-painted armored car while loud sex noises emanate from the rear and a trail of cocaine slowly pours out from the muffler.*
With a Bureau of Sleight of Hands and Lightening Attacks and totally eccentric individuals, how did Monty Python not make a feature film about Fiume? It would have been a classic.
Monty Python ran out of time. You can only do this kind of ground braking sh*t when you are young...er... and are exploding with energy, after which you go behind the scenes and pull the puppet strings. But Python had no puppeteer and everyone sensed that. Anyway, Chapman was dying of cancer and Cleese wanted to go solo and Terry Gilliam wanted to direct movies and so on. The group just ran out of time.
Fantastic. One of the most engaging and finely produced Geographics videos yet. I would at this point appreciate a full Biographics episode on how Simon Whistler survives without sleep.
First heard about this about 25 years ago! Absolutely Bonkers is just the start of it! I'd reckon you'd need a trilogy to cover the life of D'Annunzio, and loved the "Makes Guns'n'Roses look like choir boys" comment. That he did not die of the pox or on the Gallows, or shot dead by an irate husband or one of his conquests is a minor miracle!
@@TheInstallations Maybe/maybe not. He suffered injuries from a fall, apparently out of a window. Of these he later died. No Ladies involved (kind of letting his image down). No one is too sure if it was Irate Husbands, Mussolini or one of his Ras trying to please Il Duce (the Ras were his chief blackshirts, he famously had difficulty controlling them).
Best one yet, Simon--you boys are really cooking with gas now! As it happens, I did already know about Fiume (ah, the rewards of being a freak about history), but I still found your presentation quite good. I strongly suspect that your scriptwriter on this one read the same book I did, which is a solid connection through a dying art. Maybe the popularity of you guys and the History Guy should give us hope that there is still hope for an increasingly unread and dumbed-down human race. Let's go hope, shall we?
Agreed! More people need to read. Just after getting the book Midnight in Chernobyl, which I heard was really good, I saw your Chernobyl video. Loved it! Maybe do a video on Valery Legasov(head Chernobyl investigator) over on the Biographics channel?
@@jasic9183 Well, it's south from some (small) parts of Istria, but generally it's just a bit east. You can actually look at much of eastern coast of Istria from any point in Rijeka/Fiume. Rijeka has amazing views because of it's geography.
Yes, city have great history. Many many more things. Before and after this. It was Venetian, Hungarian, Italian, Austrian, Austro-Hungarian, French ... Most of the time was independent - First Mediterranean oil refinery - Birthplace of torpedo - Known for motorsports - the base of many Punk band's at 80's (even I had one) ...
I've had an urge to visit Rijeka and Pula for some time now, some of the best music, literature, art and journalism in Yugoslav history is from those two cities... love the video! Rijeka is the first one on the list after I've watched this
you more tha welcome to come and see what my city have to offer..there is a lots of other stuff to see, i.e. a pat of "alpine wall" huge fortification system which ends up in fiume (rijeka).. if yo have chance to visit some other city iiiiiiin crotia then you will realise difference in mentality between rijeka and any other city in croatia.. and above all, rijeka was a ˇmelting potˇ" even before new york! sunny greetings from fiume/rijeka to you all
@@Mrpeacemaker2Yugoslavia gave nothing to Italy but renounced its claims to Venezia Giulia, Istria, Quarnaro and Pelagosta and Zara and Italy renounced its claim to the other islands and Dalmatia and the Mouths of Cattaro.
@@mariocerin4105 Croatia at the time, then Socialist Republic of Croatia, now Republic of Croatia, was one of the Republics of "old" Yugoslavia, and then one of the Federative Socialist Republics of Federative Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia. Kind of like Bavaria is a part of Germany and, a bit less similarly, how Massachusets is a part of the USA. After the breakdown of Yugoslavia and the end of the Serbo-Croatian war, the Croatia of today has regained it's borders established in Yugoslavia.
I'd known about Fiume previously, mainly from the book Paris 1919 by Margaret MacMillan, but dear lord I never quite realised how bonkers this whole thing got.
Not only you're an exceptional speaker and author, it's obvious that you can bring historical facts and events into such a shape we can re-enact them while listening your voice. Thanks.
What a truly fascinating place and time. It basically attracted every "outsider" and societal outcast and somehow anarchists, artists, and hippies could get along with authoritarians, racists, and wealthy mofos all generally got along united by a general disdain of the mainstream...and sex and drugs
This channel, and especially this episode, are so amazingly researched and produced it’s incredible!!! Why has no tv station picked you up for a time slot boggles my mind.
Rijeka (Fiume) was always different and remains so even to this day. The vibe is simply different from all other cities on the east side of Adriatic coast. For me the best thing about Rijeka is it's musical herritage - especially punk/rock scene!
Great stuff. I've recently become hooked on this channel, along with Biographics as well . I enjoy the thorough but condensed format. The delivery is also excellent, quick paced, but not sloppy. Please keep up the good work. Cheers!
Damn, love drugs and rock... Today Rijeka is a boring city. This was a super cool video. My grandma told me a ton of stories from when she was a kid (WW2 and later), but I had no clue what was going on after WW1.
If you want a job with a living wage, and to live a life devoid of ethnic divisions, where the politicians still try to hide their corruption then East Pennsylvania is the obvious choice. But if youd rather sacrifice living in safety for living more simply, to trade a place of high alcoholism for high unemployment, be governed by a crooked government for an extremely crooked government...and exchange your love of bluegrass for a fondness for techno then the Balkan life is the life for you.
I am somewhat of a historian and all of this was something I have totally missed. I love your biographies, or if you would, your Geographics. Your researchers do an outstanding job.
Just fantastic work guys! I sincerely respect and appreciate the amount of detail, passion, and quality you put forth in the making of this video and really all your videos across all the different channels you've recently put forth. Personally I feel like content with intelligently designed premises are somewhat lacking nowadays amoungst the endless sea of people doing the same thing with their "unique" spin on it with intent of becoming rich & famous being the main driving passion. It's nice to see smart people talking about interesting topics with such a consistent and quite entertaining production model. Please keep up the great work and hopefully continue to garner praise from us the community as appreciation for the attention to detail and hard work. Thanks!
Among other famous freaks who made Fiume their home was Isadora Duncan and Alistair Crawley. In addition Fiume most important figure was Fiorello la Guardia born in Fiume who became mayor of New York.
Hmm...La Guardia was born in Greenwich Village NY, his mother was from Trieste, which I guess is close to Fiume....never knew Crowley was there though, interesting.
Very interesting. I don't think I ever heard or read more than a couple lines about Fiume throughout my life. Thank you for making this video to make people aware of such a wild and eccentric place and it's history.
You can find some interesting videos on TH-cam and a lot of original materials if you dig a little. If you're interested in original stuff from that period and you speak a little Italian you should check the site of istituto luce
@@alexanderbemis9065 heh, that's too easy... d'annunzio was socialist, fascist, a coke head, a total sexual pervert, a poet, an expert in literature, a pirate, a fighter pilot, a philosopher and probably some other things we don't even know lol
It’s cool to see this video. My nonna was living there when it was going from Italian to Croatian ownership. Always known it as Rijeka and it’s beautiful. Didn’t know about the history of it til a few years ago.
it's now a time capsule of Yugo-Communist and other architecture, factories because together w the entire country, it went to shit. The shipyard "Treći maj" (Third of May) went bankrupt in 2019. Uljanik (Pula Shipyard) also went to shit, and it used to be the only source of income for much of the city's population... Remember in elementary school, half of the class' dads worked in Uljanik Incompetent, corrupt government...
D'Annunzio villa at Lake Garda ist totally worth a visit one of the coolest places I've been to. He put a massive warship and put it on the mountain next to his villa and his mausoleum where all his best friends and dogs are buried
Wow!!! So much history/significance to this place I had never heard of until now! Sounds like it deserves space in our books and series on Netflix or HBO!
As a citizen of Rijeka I can tell you we have many things started here for the first time...some are good like a chocolate factory and some are bad like the invention of torpedo.
@@il_comunista_ciociaro father was Italian and Capone himself said his mother was from Fiume to a taxy driver (that is the way the story goes) - actually it was a little place close to Fiume
0:55 - Chapter 1 - "Previously, on the war to end all wars" 4:15 - Chapter 2 - Meanwhile in Fiume 6:25 - Chapter 3 - Enter the poet 10:35 - Mid roll ads 12:10 - Chapter 4 - 24/7 Party people 14:55 - Chapter 5 - Meet the eccentric sidekick 17:45 - Chapter 6 - Walk on the dark side 20:00 - Chapter 7 - The regency of carnaro 23:35 - Chapter 8 - Post credits sequence
Fun fact, the first ship to rescue Titanic survivors was RMS Carpathia departed from Rijeka (Fiume). Actually one of the only 4 rescue belt from the Titanic is displayed in Rijeka (Fiume) museum of Pomorski i povijesni muzej Hrvatskog primorja Rijeka (Maritime and History Museum of the Croatian Littoral).
thanks for this... my grandparents and mother were from Fiume (Rijeka) and cosidered themselves Italian, as did most of their friends. I visited once waaay back when it was still Jugoslavia (Tito times I guess) as a kid and have fond memories of how beautiful the area was.
Ethnicity in the Northern Adriatic is rather scrambled. I have a friend whose surname is "Schiavone", which is the Veneto name for Slovenes and Croats that immigrated to serve in the Venetian Republic's military.
Peter Gray Scrambled indeed.. Espetially Fiume. Rulers of Fiume in past were mostly Austrian families, even before Habsburgs.But hungarian branch of Habsburgs made golden age of Fiume. So, Fiume is Austrian, Italian, Hungarian, Croatian.. Fiume is Fiume, home for everyone!
Jasmin Bešić Indeed it’s 2019., and evryone from EU can come to live in Rijeka, without any problem. Aswell as Rijeka is Croatia, not onley Croats live there, and in harmony.. Don’t worry, no one is going to take Your home!
I have a lot of family and friends from Trst(trieste) But with Croatian surnames but they called themselves Italian rather than be known as yugoslavs(which was a insult). Italy should do the honourable thing and give Trst back to Croatia. Theft does not go down well in Gods eyes
The Fiume story has another indirect geopolitical consequence. Because Italy left the negociations leading to Versailles treaty, Japan threatened to leave also the negotiation if they can't get their hands on Shandong which was a Chinese province under german administration before WW1; and this time, Clemenceau and Wilson agreed to let Japan rules Shandong. But Shandong is a very strong symbol for Chinese; it is where Confucius leave and die; and with the emerging Republic of China; the transfer of sovereignty to Japan has been used by chinese nationalists in their propaganda against Kuomintang and, marginally maybe, contibutes to the emergence of China as we know it today.
the emergence of China??? you mean, to the take over of China by the communist party!! do you know that the recent rise of China has nothing to do with the communist maoist ideology/party? - the truth is that the same rise would have happend much earlier with the Kuomitang...
No, in 1919, China was a young republic; just 8 years old; and the conflict between nationalists (not yet communists) and Republicans (Kuomintang) was already engaged and 2 governments claim the power over China; the official government of China participated in the negociations of Versailles treaty but didn’t sign it, in sign of protestation. But nationalists protest vigorously ; this sparks riots known as "movement of 4 of May" in response to this "humiliation" and this was the beginning of the insurrection that ultimately sees the victory of nationalists just before WW2. The economical rising of China is a much more recent history and has no connection with Fiume.
Where was this video when I had to make a presentation about Fiume!!! Also a bit sad that you didn’t mention Sušak the neighbouring town of Fiume where I live.
Great video, but there was one mistake. Treaty of Rapallo formed Independent State of Fiume by its signatories: Kingdoms of Italy and SHS. Treaty was later revoked when Mussolini's fascists annexed it in 1924.
Thnx Simon.. I've married a Croatian woman and we've been spending our summer holidays in Croatia for almost a decade. Although Rijeka (Fiume) is not situated in the most beautiful part of the Croatian coast cause that title definitely goes to Istria and Dalmatia, I learned a few useful things from this video. Next time when we are all together at the table sitting and drinking with her father I will surprise him with a few facts I bet he didn't know... Anyway, a great video, a beautiful country and (obviously) most beautiful women....
Yeah, considering shrooms, weed, poppies & coca plants all grow just fine in the wild, along with fruits that are easy to ferment & many other natural hallucinogens, like say peyote or morning glory, your wilderness sounds a bit shit pal I'm afraid lol (fuck the Fascism though, who needs that crap)
Rijeka or Fiume is not Dalmation cost since Dalmatia start from the island of Pag and where Velebit mont ends all the down to Dubrovnik and Kotor region
Povijesno gledano, Dalmacija je malo sjeverno-zapadno od Zadra pa do Dubrovnika, tj. Konavle isto... to što su Dubrovačke boje na grbu RH nije oznaka regije ili provincije već zbog uvažavanja Dubrovnika i okolnkg područja kao važnog djela zemlje... mogli su umjesto staviti npr. Srijem, Međimurje ili Baranju al kužiš Dubrovnik ima bogatiju i slavniju povijest (relativno govoreći) od nekih drugih regija naše zemlje.
Awesome iteration on a time an era and location which I am not as familiar as perhaps I should be. Your wrap up was pointed , thoughtful and well done Simon and yes you have made my socio-geographic awareness richer. Thank you.
It wasn't really an Italo-Yugoslavian affair, the name Yugoslavia only appeared in 1929, before that the country was called the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes.
It is not very well known, but there was the REPUBLIC of Yugoslavia, which was inaugurated on 29th October 1918 in Zagreb, with the capital in Zagreb. But: 1. it was not internationally recognized, except from a few other new countries like Czechoslovakia 2. It has overwhelming support in Croatia, Slovenia, and Bosnia, but just partially in Serbia. Serbs were for union, but wanted it to be a kingdom with Serbian monarch family in power. So it "lived" just one month. On 1st December 1918 Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovene were formed, renamed to the Kindom of Yugoslavia in 1929. Name Yugoslavia was in use from the late 19th century, but just on meetings of underground groups at Croatian and Slovenian territories, later (when in Bosnia, when was annexed) inside Austro-Hungarian monarchy. There are monuments and plaques in memory of such meetings at least in Zagreb, Rijeka & Ljubljana.
blub some sources are referring to it as SHS, others as Yugoslavia. As well as it was also proclaimed and reported about differently. Part from original reporting from those days... (Slovenian) Slovesnost je označil sprevod po Ljubljani in zborovanje na Kongresnem trgu, kjer je ok. 30.000-glava množica ob govorih uglednih politikov - Korošca, ki je bil že na poti na srečanje s predstavniki Kraljevine Srbije v Ženevo, je na balkonu deželnega dvorca kot član Narodnega vijeća zastopal liberalec Ivan Hribar, ki je zbrane nagovoril s "Prejmi torej naše poklonstvo ti, naša krasna, ob neizmernih mukah rojena in zato večno neporušljiva Jugoslavija”. As reports were using both names & it was not officially recognized by non other than just formed Czechoslovakia, where it was reported in newspapers as recognition of Jugoslavia. As dialogs with representatives of Kingdom of Serbia postponed its recognition, one month later it was agreed that it will be formed as Kingdom SHS, with its capital Belgrade. But yes, different sources are addressing those events and name itself differently.
@@vladob3Res je, Jugoslavija je itak že starejši izraz, v uporabi je bil že sredi 19. stoletja. Drugače so nam pa profesorji na univerzi svetovali, da to državo kličemo "Država Slovencev, Hrvatov in Srbov", da se izognemo morebitnim nesporazumom. Jugoslavija se kot uradno ime za našo skupno državo pojavi šele leta 1929.
@@jebatevrana No, there's a kind of sadness thinking that this was Italian land but nobody would like to start a war to conquer again those former Italian territories. At least they had a reason to invade Fiume back then, nowadays after the ethnic cleansing it's useless. What I would like is that in every former Italian territory Italian is taught as a second foreign language in order to not make disappear our culture. Those territories were a melting pot of Slavic and Italian culture for centuries.
@@thetemptedvida8650 Well, that sadness is present in most countries on the Balkans and beyond. Nobody will ever be completely happy. As far as melting point goes, Istra (Istria) is your melting pot. I don`t understand people there and neither do Italians, although Italians understand more. And yet they claim to be Croats. Funny thing. Not all of them, though. As far as rest of the coast goes, most already learn Italian as their second foreign language while people from the continental part learn German. No surprise there. Of course, it is choice but most follow what is most logical choice. I would like to have friendly relationships with Italy, we owe so much to it, but we also remember the past and will not let it repeat itself. Because now we are united against foreign threat, unlike in the past, for what it is worth anyhow.
@@jebatevrana There's no intention to repeat what happened in the past. Italy, Slovenia and Croatia should be united to remember that thousands of people in Istria, Quarnaro/Kvarner and Dalmatia had to change their identity, was killed or had to leave their home. Pluralism is the way! 🇮🇹🇭🇷🇸🇮
@@thetemptedvida8650 Indeed. People forget that, for better or worse, we share some values but some very important ones. All three are in EU/NATO and our histories are linked. When I meet Italians or Slovenes on the coast it is always pleasant with no grudges from either side. Granted, that is always during summer and with people on vacation but still, it counts for something and makes me warm inside.
Can't belive you actually covered my city, well done and thank you. One thing only, you can't say that Rijeka belongs to Dalmatia coast, because we get offended. Rijeka is in Kvarner while Dalmatia starts near city of Zadar.
We get offended, yes, but as Rickyy Gervais said, dragi Riječani, being offended does not make you right. There were times in history Rijeka was indeed under the government of Dalmatia and in the interest of the truth, that must be remembered as a fact.
I really do love most of these episodes. Sometimes it's a place I've never heard of and others I learn more about the ones I did know. I hope to see the Potala Palace video soon.
The problem was in Austria-Hungary there were at least 10 different languages spoken,and even more dialects. That was the hardest thing. Look at all the countries still came out of it up until the 90s
"The plan to sow resentment among the Croats, Bosnians, Slovenes and Montenegrins against the Serbs to break apart Yugoslavia clearly never took place". Are you sure about that? ;)
It's not Simon! The real Simon has been missing for months! How can one man be on so many channels? It's an army of clones run by sinister puppeteers. Think about why he only moves his arms from the elbows down, why after all this time his face has not changed. The real Simon has been kept prisoner in an unknown location for years
Fiume is mentioned in a scene from the movie "Father Goose" wherein the female character played by Leslie Caron in a drunken stupor asks the character played by Cary Grant as to where Fiume is. Grant responds correctly "Yugoslavia". Where after Caron states "No, it's in Yugoslavia". (Leaving Grant with a funny puzzled look on his face).
Wow, that was fabulous! Great information and makes the changing of the times a bit clearer? Seems like others were watching and trying to figure out how to make a profit from these ideas/ideals? Not sure their plan succeeded but it looks like a part of the usual pattern of history? Anyway, thanks. May have to watch this again?
Nice video! Thanks for your work. Fun facts: D’Annunzio was surely a slavo-phobic before going to Fiume, but then he fought for the right of Croatian and Slovenian minorities to have their own schools (since the high schools were only Hungarian and primary schools only Italian). By the way: Mussolini never helped D’Annunzio, he didn’t even send the money from the subscription! Historiography has proven since decade that D’Annunzio was not a fascist, after all.
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Rijeka is not Dalmacija, it's Kvarnera. Dalmacija starts in Zadar and finnishes in Dubrovnik. And for Slavic (Croatian) MAJORITY The Italian occupation is a bitter memory. They treated US like slow children, domestic languages and names were forbidden and The black shirts units terrorized every one who dares speaking Croatian. They had cute nickname for US, "schiavi", it means "slave". Justice came in The year 1945,italians are bitchin till today how they were victims of red terror
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@@Arky7171 i don't understand any of imlollo whatever
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"nudist" "pet eagle on his shoulder"
This is an exceptionally ill-considered combination
Eagle: ಠ~ಠ
Man:...
Eagle: WORM
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Hey Guido, ever wonder what happens when you give an eagle cocaine?
Here, hold my wine.
@Rich Greene because eagles have giant sharp talons. There's a reason heavy gloves are used when handling birds of prey.
@Rich Greene BRUUUHHHH
A few more facts about my beloved city... Ernesto Che Guevara was in Rijeka in early 60s, Mussolini gave us one of the most beautiful churches, one of our buildings was financed by Al Capone, the torpedo was first manufactured and first tests were performed in Rijeka. HMS Carpathia was on the direct line from Rijeka to NY when Titanic's disaster happened and one of only 3-4 remaining life jackets is located in our Naval History Museum in Rijeka. The legendary Alfa Romeo Aerospider that was superior to German AutoUnion, the only one ever made was invented and made in Rijeka by Jankovics brothers. ( They won the race, Adolf got furious, so Jankovics brothers had to flee to Italy to save their lives. After all, they made Benito very happy.) Rijeka indeed is a specia place to be. Krepat ma ne molat!
Fiume*
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Rijeka*
Rijeka is Croatia cope about it 🤣
@@lonelymnewarrior69 2k years of history says otherwise
Fun fact: Rijeka literally means river (which later divided the Yugoslavia from Italy)
and Fiume is italian word for river, also.
Also Rijeka is chosen for european capital of culture 2020 so will be fun to go there and unload all this facts .
that is why on 14:00 min we see an archive photo of a bridge across a river, which is surely not fiume/rijeka, but a photo found by somebody typing "fiume" into a search engine
River? Seriously?
Lets just name a dragon, Dragon.
Oh, wait, they did that in a film once...
@@sagesheahan6732 if you think about it, all ancient names were descriptive (Last names also)
FUN FACT:
*River that divided Italian Fiume (Rijeka) and Yugoslavian Sušak is called RJEČINA (Italian: Eneo; German: Flaum)*
This river has often been the border between different states. The first time this happened was from the 13th to 16th centuries, when it formed the border between the Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen and the Habsburgs. A similar thing happened in 1868, when the Rječina became the border between the Croatian and Hungarian parts of Austria-Hungary. After World War I it became for a very short time the border between the Free State of Fiume and the Kingdom of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes//Kingdom of Yugoslavia. After the Free State of Fiume was annexed by Italy, the Rječina became the border river of that country. Since World War II, the Rječina has no longer been a border between states.
How is this not a movie staring Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Leo and Chris Pratt.
I'd buy a ticket for a dollar.
It's because it's one of the most unknown pages of Italian history, always untold in school and never mentioned in official history books (or appearing with a simple mention never digging into the part communist, feminist and anarchist movements had in it). The whole history of fiume was pretty censored untill the '90s when it stared to appear in some accredited books.
@@johnnyx9892 The Coen Brothers.
PixieRoseKate it would be a crap movie then
@@johnnyx9892 Wes Anderson.
- Nudist
- Yoga
- Lived in a tree house
- Had a pet eagle
- Had a socialist ideology
A man truly ahead of its time, a pretentious hipster before it was cool.
He was a time traveler from the present.
A hipster before it was cool?
But that's... *hipsterception*
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Илиан Тодоров first there was Leo Tolstoy !
metalfaust19 Tolstoy was count one of the prestigious Russian families
I read that citizens of Fiume at that time were able to speak fluently at least 4 or 5 different languages. Even the illiterate ones were able to communicate in italian, croatian, hungarian, german....It's so impressive.
They had no youtube or tiktok.
@@danielefabbro822 It's totally that and not their unique geographic position
Not just that,they also knew local dialects
They still can
Not uncommon for port and naval cities. To this day not uncommon
My husband’s Grandmother was a young girl in Fiume during the period mentioned in the video, having been born in 1903, so Fiume is an interesting part of my husband’s family history, though we had no idea HOW interesting. Thanks for this great video. It’ll definitely give us something to talk about at Christmas!
*Lenin takes one look at Fiume.*
"Yeah, I can get behind this."
*Meanwhile, two naked Italians drive behind him in an Futurist-painted armored car while loud sex noises emanate from the rear and a trail of cocaine slowly pours out from the muffler.*
Viva Fiume Città di Vita!
VIVA GABRIELE D'ANNUNZIO!
Thanks for doing this!
This is one of the textbook examples of a "Temporary Autonomous Zone" a phenomenon that pops up throughout history.
GreenGestalt yes , Rijeka had that status numerous times. I hope it will happen again.
Fiume Libera/Slobodna Rijeka!
It popped in Seattle! Lol! What a joke that was!
Chop
@Fred Flinstone it was CHAZ initially remember lmfao
With a Bureau of Sleight of Hands and Lightening Attacks and totally eccentric individuals, how did Monty Python not make a feature film about Fiume? It would have been a classic.
Btw, what a great video. Thank you.
Lol brilliant
Monty Python ran out of time. You can only do this kind of ground braking sh*t when you are young...er... and are exploding with energy, after which you go behind the scenes and pull the puppet strings. But Python had no puppeteer and everyone sensed that. Anyway, Chapman was dying of cancer and Cleese wanted to go solo and Terry Gilliam wanted to direct movies and so on. The group just ran out of time.
Exactly Kevin.
Guido Keller deserves a Biographics all by himself.
Guido Keller should be known as the "naked pilot". It must have been very chilly flying at 10,000 feet without clothes. This was hilarious.
bi planes usually didnt fly that high.
Depends where the hot exhaust is directed. Could have been hot in there.
'Bureau of Sleight of Hand and Lightning Attacks' simultaneously suggests both limited and very advanced magical abilities.
Fantastic. One of the most engaging and finely produced Geographics videos yet. I would at this point appreciate a full Biographics episode on how Simon Whistler survives without sleep.
Real short and sweet episode: the answer is drugs.
YOU TALKIN TOO....ME?......PUNK!!! I'LL DROPKICK YA IN THE ANKLES
Thank you :)
And I'm a robot sent from the future.
@@geographicstravel Sent to highlight mistakes from history to keep us from repeating them? Makes sense to me, thanks for your service.
First heard about this about 25 years ago! Absolutely Bonkers is just the start of it!
I'd reckon you'd need a trilogy to cover the life of D'Annunzio, and loved the "Makes Guns'n'Roses look like choir boys" comment. That he did not die of the pox or on the Gallows, or shot dead by an irate husband or one of his conquests is a minor miracle!
some people say he was assasinated by Mussolini...he apparently fell from a balcony while he was in a wheel chair.
@@TheInstallations Maybe/maybe not. He suffered injuries from a fall, apparently out of a window. Of these he later died. No Ladies involved (kind of letting his image down). No one is too sure if it was Irate Husbands, Mussolini or one of his Ras trying to please Il Duce (the Ras were his chief blackshirts, he famously had difficulty controlling them).
Oh my.... what a great surprise to see my hometown in one of your videos..... :)
Hardest working people in Fiume were the Hookers, Chemists, Vintners and Brewers lol
Male hookers work the hardiest..
@@ddsjgvk I'm sure you would know.
@@briancrawford8751 It's a joke about hard on's.
@@ddsjgvk I didn't get that. I just assumed you were a rent boy. So, how much do you charge your customers for full service?
@Peter B I wasn't insulting you. I was just goofing around.
My father is Fiuman. Nice to hear the history. He always said it was an important city.
Best one yet, Simon--you boys are really cooking with gas now! As it happens, I did already know about Fiume (ah, the rewards of being a freak about history), but I still found your presentation quite good. I strongly suspect that your scriptwriter on this one read the same book I did, which is a solid connection through a dying art. Maybe the popularity of you guys and the History Guy should give us hope that there is still hope for an increasingly unread and dumbed-down human race. Let's go hope, shall we?
I hope :). And thank you.
Agreed! More people need to read. Just after getting the book Midnight in Chernobyl, which I heard was really good, I saw your Chernobyl video. Loved it! Maybe do a video on Valery Legasov(head Chernobyl investigator) over on the Biographics channel?
@@jasic9183 Well, it's south from some (small) parts of Istria, but generally it's just a bit east. You can actually look at much of eastern coast of Istria from any point in Rijeka/Fiume. Rijeka has amazing views because of it's geography.
Is not the reading.. It's the retention.
@@Kitiwake Can't retain what was never ingested.
finally some recognition, fiumano here
do y'all still have lots of drugs and a prolific sex industry? love from Canada.
Fiume is fascinating. What a little nugget of modern history! Wow!
For sure a lot of drugs come through here, being a port city and all.
@quality content_lol16 normal european drug laws, everything is prohibited
Yes, city have great history. Many many more things. Before and after this.
It was Venetian, Hungarian, Italian, Austrian, Austro-Hungarian, French ... Most of the time was independent
- First Mediterranean oil refinery
- Birthplace of torpedo
- Known for motorsports
- the base of many Punk band's at 80's (even I had one)
...
Oh my goodness! This is so well written!
And please consider a full biographics for Guido Keller!
I think Fiume was the closest example of real life Rapture in Bioshock game.
Like a real life Wes Anderson film
It still is...from experience.
Perfect
"I won't offend your vast knowledge of 19th and 20th century history" We've been listening to you all these years, Simon, our knowledge IS vast
:)
I've had an urge to visit Rijeka and Pula for some time now, some of the best music, literature, art and journalism in Yugoslav history is from those two cities... love the video! Rijeka is the first one on the list after I've watched this
you more tha welcome to come and see what my city have to offer..there is a lots of other stuff to see, i.e. a pat of "alpine wall" huge fortification system which ends up in fiume (rijeka)..
if yo have chance to visit some other city iiiiiiin crotia then you will realise difference in mentality between rijeka and any other city in croatia.. and above all, rijeka was a ˇmelting potˇ" even before new york!
sunny greetings from fiume/rijeka to you all
@@mayham_RI Croatia? Didn't the video say it was Yugoslavia?
@@mariocerin4105 .Oh yes Yugoslavia gave Kvarner, istria, Zadar ... to Itallians 1921. with Rapallo treaty.
@@Mrpeacemaker2Yugoslavia gave nothing to Italy but renounced its claims to Venezia Giulia, Istria, Quarnaro and Pelagosta and Zara and Italy renounced its claim to the other islands and Dalmatia and the Mouths of Cattaro.
@@mariocerin4105 Croatia at the time, then Socialist Republic of Croatia, now Republic of Croatia, was one of the Republics of "old" Yugoslavia, and then one of the Federative Socialist Republics of Federative Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia. Kind of like Bavaria is a part of Germany and, a bit less similarly, how Massachusets is a part of the USA. After the breakdown of Yugoslavia and the end of the Serbo-Croatian war, the Croatia of today has regained it's borders established in Yugoslavia.
I'd known about Fiume previously, mainly from the book Paris 1919 by Margaret MacMillan, but dear lord I never quite realised how bonkers this whole thing got.
If you liked that book, try The Pike by Lucy Hughes-Hallett...tells the story of Fiume and D'Annunzio in detail
Not only you're an exceptional speaker and author, it's obvious that you can bring historical facts and events into such a shape we can re-enact them while listening your voice. Thanks.
What a truly fascinating place and time. It basically attracted every "outsider" and societal outcast and somehow anarchists, artists, and hippies could get along with authoritarians, racists, and wealthy mofos all generally got along united by a general disdain of the mainstream...and sex and drugs
Cocaine is truly the powdered nectar of harmony.
Rijeka/Fiume was also the inspiration for the Hayao Miyazaki anime Porco Rosso (1992).
This channel, and especially this episode, are so amazingly researched and produced it’s incredible!!! Why has no tv station picked you up for a time slot boggles my mind.
Rijeka (Fiume) was always different and remains so even to this day. The vibe is simply different from all other cities on the east side of Adriatic coast. For me the best thing about Rijeka is it's musical herritage - especially punk/rock scene!
16:00 Director of the "Bureau of Sleight of Hand and Lightning Attacks". Wow. I really need to use that in a D&D campaign.
I knew just few about the take over of Fiume by Gabriele D'Annunzio but never have thought that was such an important and influncial time in history
Great stuff. I've recently become hooked on this channel, along with Biographics as well . I enjoy the thorough but condensed format. The delivery is also excellent, quick paced, but not sloppy. Please keep up the good work. Cheers!
Damn, love drugs and rock... Today Rijeka is a boring city. This was a super cool video. My grandma told me a ton of stories from when she was a kid (WW2 and later), but I had no clue what was going on after WW1.
...today it may be, but Rijeka was always underground.
@@itsjustme5222 It's not as it seems mate. Functional alcoholism is something of a folk ritual in Croatia.
If you want a job with a living wage, and to live a life devoid of ethnic divisions, where the politicians still try to hide their corruption then East Pennsylvania is the obvious choice. But if youd rather sacrifice living in safety for living more simply, to trade a place of high alcoholism for high unemployment, be governed by a crooked government for an extremely crooked government...and exchange your love of bluegrass for a fondness for techno then the Balkan life is the life for you.
@@itsjustme5222 im from West Chester, Philly area and i totally agree about the shithole pary, n im never goin back either
Vedran Balic Yuck, there is no way I am giving up bluegrass for techno.
This is a story about the Italian Futurist movement: educated, avant-garde…and fascist. They wrote great manifestos, though.
I am somewhat of a historian and all of this was something I have totally missed. I love your biographies, or if you would, your Geographics. Your researchers do an outstanding job.
Just fantastic work guys! I sincerely respect and appreciate the amount of detail, passion, and quality you put forth in the making of this video and really all your videos across all the different channels you've recently put forth. Personally I feel like content with intelligently designed premises are somewhat lacking nowadays amoungst the endless sea of people doing the same thing with their "unique" spin on it with intent of becoming rich & famous being the main driving passion. It's nice to see smart people talking about interesting topics with such a consistent and quite entertaining production model. Please keep up the great work and hopefully continue to garner praise from us the community as appreciation for the attention to detail and hard work. Thanks!
D'annunzio ordered to introduce croats and slovene languages in the schools, I don't think his governament was slavophobe
Among other famous freaks who made Fiume their home was Isadora Duncan and Alistair Crawley. In addition Fiume most important figure was Fiorello la Guardia born in Fiume who became mayor of New York.
I wonder if he met Crowley, D'Annunzio and Keller as a kid...
Hmm...La Guardia was born in Greenwich Village NY, his mother was from Trieste, which I guess is close to Fiume....never knew Crowley was there though, interesting.
I wouldn't call isadora Duncan a freak... 😉😒
@@thatahamoment497 Us creative types always get the best nicknames
@@hughrowanhunter9631 La Guardia was U.S. consulate in Fiume 1901 - 1906. As Fiume was then free state.
One of many topics I've only ever seen on my school textbooks and never on youtube, thanks for covering it!!
Very interesting. I don't think I ever heard or read more than a couple lines about Fiume throughout my life.
Thank you for making this video to make people aware of such a wild and eccentric place and it's history.
Possible video on the life of Gabriele D'Annunzio?
Could be interesting, he was definitely a pretty crazy guy
He low key kinda looks like an Italian Vladimir Lenin
You can find some interesting videos on TH-cam and a lot of original materials if you dig a little. If you're interested in original stuff from that period and you speak a little Italian you should check the site of istituto luce
@@alexanderbemis9065 heh, that's too easy... d'annunzio was socialist, fascist, a coke head, a total sexual pervert, a poet, an expert in literature, a pirate, a fighter pilot, a philosopher and probably some other things we don't even know lol
D'annuzio is a goat
It’s cool to see this video. My nonna was living there when it was going from Italian to Croatian ownership. Always known it as Rijeka and it’s beautiful. Didn’t know about the history of it til a few years ago.
it's now a time capsule of Yugo-Communist and other architecture, factories because together w the entire country, it went to shit.
The shipyard "Treći maj" (Third of May) went bankrupt in 2019.
Uljanik (Pula Shipyard) also went to shit, and it used to be the only source of income for much of the city's population...
Remember in elementary school, half of the class' dads worked in Uljanik
Incompetent, corrupt government...
D'Annunzio villa at Lake Garda ist totally worth a visit one of the coolest places I've been to. He put a massive warship and put it on the mountain next to his villa and his mausoleum where all his best friends and dogs are buried
Wow!!! So much history/significance to this place I had never heard of until now! Sounds like it deserves space in our books and series on Netflix or HBO!
As a citizen of Rijeka I can tell you we have many things started here for the first time...some are good like a chocolate factory and some are bad like the invention of torpedo.
Al Capone's mother was from Rijeka/Fiume. He had a Villa close to the city and invested money in some buildings in Rijeka
Really? I didn't know that they were rich. ANd I thought they were a family,
His mum was from Salerno, not from Fiume
@@il_comunista_ciociaro father was Italian and Capone himself said his mother was from Fiume to a taxy driver (that is the way the story goes) - actually it was a little place close to Fiume
He also build a skycraper in Fiume... Fiume was a powerful city on the Mediteraneum back then due to the strong industry of all sorts
@@ivameix7503 ah no, the parents of Al Capone were from Salerno but when they immigrated to the USA they took a ship from the Port of Fiume
Based d'Annunzio. Thank you for spreading the word on this important man.
0:55 - Chapter 1 - "Previously, on the war to end all wars"
4:15 - Chapter 2 - Meanwhile in Fiume
6:25 - Chapter 3 - Enter the poet
10:35 - Mid roll ads
12:10 - Chapter 4 - 24/7 Party people
14:55 - Chapter 5 - Meet the eccentric sidekick
17:45 - Chapter 6 - Walk on the dark side
20:00 - Chapter 7 - The regency of carnaro
23:35 - Chapter 8 - Post credits sequence
Fun fact, the first ship to rescue Titanic survivors was RMS Carpathia departed from Rijeka (Fiume). Actually one of the only 4 rescue belt from the Titanic is displayed in Rijeka (Fiume) museum of Pomorski i povijesni muzej Hrvatskog primorja Rijeka (Maritime and History Museum of the Croatian Littoral).
thanks for this... my grandparents and mother were from Fiume (Rijeka) and cosidered themselves Italian, as did most of their friends. I visited once waaay back when it was still Jugoslavia (Tito times I guess) as a kid and have fond memories of how beautiful the area was.
Ethnicity in the Northern Adriatic is rather scrambled. I have a friend whose surname is "Schiavone", which is the Veneto name for Slovenes and Croats that immigrated to serve in the Venetian Republic's military.
Peter Gray Scrambled indeed.. Espetially Fiume. Rulers of Fiume in past were mostly Austrian families, even before Habsburgs.But hungarian branch of Habsburgs made golden age of Fiume. So, Fiume is Austrian, Italian, Hungarian, Croatian.. Fiume is Fiume, home for everyone!
@@laleydelamor1327nope it is not. It is not 1919,but 2019. A lot has changed from 100 years ago.
Jasmin Bešić Indeed it’s 2019., and evryone from EU can come to live in Rijeka, without any problem. Aswell as Rijeka is Croatia, not onley Croats live there, and in harmony.. Don’t worry, no one is going to take Your home!
I have a lot of family and friends from Trst(trieste) But with Croatian surnames but they called themselves Italian rather than be known as yugoslavs(which was a insult). Italy should do the honourable thing and give Trst back to Croatia. Theft does not go down well in Gods eyes
This is probably one of the best you've done do far!
The Fiume story has another indirect geopolitical consequence.
Because Italy left the negociations leading to Versailles treaty, Japan threatened to leave also the negotiation if they can't get their hands on Shandong which was a Chinese province under german administration before WW1; and this time, Clemenceau and Wilson agreed to let Japan rules Shandong. But Shandong is a very strong symbol for Chinese; it is where Confucius leave and die; and with the emerging Republic of China; the transfer of sovereignty to Japan has been used by chinese nationalists in their propaganda against Kuomintang and, marginally maybe, contibutes to the emergence of China as we know it today.
the emergence of China??? you mean, to the take over of China by the communist party!! do you know that the recent rise of China has nothing to do with the communist maoist ideology/party? - the truth is that the same rise would have happend much earlier with the Kuomitang...
No, in 1919, China was a young republic; just 8 years old; and the conflict between nationalists (not yet communists) and Republicans (Kuomintang) was already engaged and 2 governments claim the power over China; the official government of China participated in the negociations of Versailles treaty but didn’t sign it, in sign of protestation. But nationalists protest vigorously ; this sparks riots known as "movement of 4 of May" in response to this "humiliation" and this was the beginning of the insurrection that ultimately sees the victory of nationalists just before WW2.
The economical rising of China is a much more recent history and has no connection with Fiume.
Something for a future Geographics video!
With the exception of America the Japanese were almost certainly the biggest winners of WW1
@@scottdodge6979 As the Axis Powers were the biggest losers, I would say Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia have gained much more.
The details of this story are so confusing and almost unbelievable.
Where was this video when I had to make a presentation about Fiume!!! Also a bit sad that you didn’t mention Sušak the neighbouring town of Fiume where I live.
Great video, but there was one mistake. Treaty of Rapallo formed Independent State of Fiume by its signatories: Kingdoms of Italy and SHS. Treaty was later revoked when Mussolini's fascists annexed it in 1924.
Making Fiume an independent state would have been an excellent idea after WW2.
Thank you
“There were sex orgies and cocaine, but there were also bad things” 😂
this dude is smart. i like his in-depth videos about anything and everything. i may be dumb but i enjoy what your channels offer
Thnx Simon.. I've married a Croatian woman and we've been spending our summer holidays in Croatia for almost a decade. Although Rijeka (Fiume) is not situated in the most beautiful part of the Croatian coast cause that title definitely goes to Istria and Dalmatia, I learned a few useful things from this video. Next time when we are all together at the table sitting and drinking with her father I will surprise him with a few facts I bet he didn't know... Anyway, a great video, a beautiful country and (obviously) most beautiful women....
Fantastic episode, Simon. Thoroughly enjoyed this one !
Strange, there's no drugs or fascism out here in the wilderness
You obviously haven't been looking at the right mushrooms.
Yeah, those fascist shrooms and cacti are mind-blowing! 😜
@@squarerootof2 fungai!
Yeah, considering shrooms, weed, poppies & coca plants all grow just fine in the wild, along with fruits that are easy to ferment & many other natural hallucinogens, like say peyote or morning glory, your wilderness sounds a bit shit pal I'm afraid lol (fuck the Fascism though, who needs that crap)
....we is stoned, immaculate..
Rijeka or Fiume is not Dalmation cost since Dalmatia start from the island of Pag and where Velebit mont ends all the down to Dubrovnik and Kotor region
Dubrovnik is not Dalmatia, take a look at the emblem on the Croatian flag!
@@exlauslegale8534 I leave their so I know
Gdje, u Dubrovniku ili u Kotoru?
@@exlauslegale8534 Dubrovink
Povijesno gledano, Dalmacija je malo sjeverno-zapadno od Zadra pa do Dubrovnika, tj. Konavle isto... to što su Dubrovačke boje na grbu RH nije oznaka regije ili provincije već zbog uvažavanja Dubrovnika i okolnkg područja kao važnog djela zemlje... mogli su umjesto staviti npr. Srijem, Međimurje ili Baranju al kužiš Dubrovnik ima bogatiju i slavniju povijest (relativno govoreći) od nekih drugih regija naše zemlje.
Dude you guys have 120k subs! I was one of the first 10k. So excited that this channel is getting the recognition it deserves.
Thank you :).
17:03 Not only Hindu or Buddhist, it's an ancient symbol used in many cultures, Finnish for instance has Tursaansydän.
Great stuff, once lived in Trieste, wish I still did, but would love to see some videos on Trieste and region as it’s hard to come by !
This would make an amazing story driven, open world game
Honestly I just watch this channel because every episode is guaranteed to have at least one instance of Simon Whistler saying the word "Empaaah"
Awesome iteration on a time an era and location which I am not as familiar as perhaps I should be. Your wrap up was pointed , thoughtful and well done Simon and yes you have made my socio-geographic awareness richer. Thank you.
It wasn't really an Italo-Yugoslavian affair, the name Yugoslavia only appeared in 1929, before that the country was called the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes.
It is not very well known, but there was the REPUBLIC of Yugoslavia, which was inaugurated on 29th October 1918 in Zagreb, with the capital in Zagreb.
But:
1. it was not internationally recognized, except from a few other new countries like Czechoslovakia
2. It has overwhelming support in Croatia, Slovenia, and Bosnia, but just partially in Serbia. Serbs were for union, but wanted it to be a kingdom with Serbian monarch family in power.
So it "lived" just one month. On 1st December 1918 Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovene were formed, renamed to the Kindom of Yugoslavia in 1929.
Name Yugoslavia was in use from the late 19th century, but just on meetings of underground groups at Croatian and Slovenian territories, later (when in Bosnia, when was annexed) inside Austro-Hungarian monarchy.
There are monuments and plaques in memory of such meetings at least in Zagreb, Rijeka & Ljubljana.
@@vladob3 late 19th century meetings of underground groups at Croatian and Slovenian territories? What are you referring to?
@@vladob3 no, that was the "State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs" proclaimed on 29th of October 1918 in Zagreb.
blub some sources are referring to it as SHS, others as Yugoslavia. As well as it was also proclaimed and reported about differently.
Part from original reporting from those days... (Slovenian)
Slovesnost je označil sprevod po Ljubljani in zborovanje na Kongresnem trgu, kjer je ok. 30.000-glava množica ob govorih uglednih politikov - Korošca, ki je bil že na poti na srečanje s predstavniki Kraljevine Srbije v Ženevo, je na balkonu deželnega dvorca kot član Narodnega vijeća zastopal liberalec Ivan Hribar, ki je zbrane nagovoril s "Prejmi torej naše poklonstvo ti, naša krasna, ob neizmernih mukah rojena in zato večno neporušljiva Jugoslavija”.
As reports were using both names & it was not officially recognized by non other than just formed Czechoslovakia, where it was reported in newspapers as recognition of Jugoslavia.
As dialogs with representatives of Kingdom of Serbia postponed its recognition, one month later it was agreed that it will be formed as Kingdom SHS, with its capital Belgrade.
But yes, different sources are addressing those events and name itself differently.
@@vladob3Res je, Jugoslavija je itak že starejši izraz, v uporabi je bil že sredi 19. stoletja. Drugače so nam pa profesorji na univerzi svetovali, da to državo kličemo "Država Slovencev, Hrvatov in Srbov", da se izognemo morebitnim nesporazumom. Jugoslavija se kot uradno ime za našo skupno državo pojavi šele leta 1929.
Excellent. When I was a child my father would often rave on about Fiuma and Abbazia ...
This was really well done. Thank you for posting it!
One of the best videos out there about this historical event, Bravo!
This is a very...Complicated part of the world....Then and now...You did it very well...An thanks very much from across the pond...!
Its not.
Balkan is such...
Thank you very much for have spoken about D'Annunzio, the Arditi, and the Legione Fiumana. ❤️🇮🇹
You still want it, don`t you?
@@jebatevrana No, there's a kind of sadness thinking that this was Italian land but nobody would like to start a war to conquer again those former Italian territories. At least they had a reason to invade Fiume back then, nowadays after the ethnic cleansing it's useless.
What I would like is that in every former Italian territory Italian is taught as a second foreign language in order to not make disappear our culture. Those territories were a melting pot of Slavic and Italian culture for centuries.
@@thetemptedvida8650 Well, that sadness is present in most countries on the Balkans and beyond. Nobody will ever be completely happy. As far as melting point goes, Istra (Istria) is your melting pot. I don`t understand people there and neither do Italians, although Italians understand more. And yet they claim to be Croats. Funny thing. Not all of them, though. As far as rest of the coast goes, most already learn Italian as their second foreign language while people from the continental part learn German. No surprise there. Of course, it is choice but most follow what is most logical choice. I would like to have friendly relationships with Italy, we owe so much to it, but we also remember the past and will not let it repeat itself. Because now we are united against foreign threat, unlike in the past, for what it is worth anyhow.
@@jebatevrana There's no intention to repeat what happened in the past. Italy, Slovenia and Croatia should be united to remember that thousands of people in Istria, Quarnaro/Kvarner and Dalmatia had to change their identity, was killed or had to leave their home. Pluralism is the way! 🇮🇹🇭🇷🇸🇮
@@thetemptedvida8650 Indeed. People forget that, for better or worse, we share some values but some very important ones. All three are in EU/NATO and our histories are linked. When I meet Italians or Slovenes on the coast it is always pleasant with no grudges from either side. Granted, that is always during summer and with people on vacation but still, it counts for something and makes me warm inside.
6:22 one of Gabriele d'Annunzio's detractors once said of him "Had we but cannon the caliber of his mouth, the war would already be won."
"everybody knows you never go full Napoleon" (Tropic Thunder, 2008)
LOL
Can't belive you actually covered my city, well done and thank you. One thing only, you can't say that Rijeka belongs to Dalmatia coast, because we get offended. Rijeka is in Kvarner while Dalmatia starts near city of Zadar.
Yes
We get offended, yes, but as Rickyy Gervais said, dragi Riječani, being offended does not make you right. There were times in history Rijeka was indeed under the government of Dalmatia and in the interest of the truth, that must be remembered as a fact.
I've watched several of your videos today. I think they are very interesting. I will be watching more in the future
I really do love most of these episodes. Sometimes it's a place I've never heard of and others I learn more about the ones I did know. I hope to see the Potala Palace video soon.
The problem was in Austria-Hungary there were at least 10 different languages spoken,and even more dialects. That was the hardest thing. Look at all the countries still came out of it up until the 90s
"The plan to sow resentment among the Croats, Bosnians, Slovenes and Montenegrins against the Serbs to break apart Yugoslavia clearly never took place". Are you sure about that? ;)
Thank you to the writers and everyone involved in these channels and thank you mr whistler for being the face and voice of it all. I AM SO SMART MEOW.
You work too damn hard Simon. But it's great work. Though I think one of your politikal shirts should make a cameo. :)
It's not Simon! The real Simon has been missing for months! How can one man be on so many channels? It's an army of clones run by sinister puppeteers. Think about why he only moves his arms from the elbows down, why after all this time his face has not changed. The real Simon has been kept prisoner in an unknown location for years
This needs to be made into a movie. I love the little startled scream. 😱
Fiume is mentioned in a scene from the movie "Father Goose" wherein the female character played by Leslie Caron in a drunken stupor asks the character played by Cary Grant as to where Fiume is. Grant responds correctly "Yugoslavia". Where after Caron states "No, it's in Yugoslavia". (Leaving Grant with a funny puzzled look on his face).
Mutilated Victory.
Awesome metal band name!
It would be classified as nazi black metal.
@@arx3516 oh poor victim of antifa, cry me a river
That has to be a movie, it has everything
Actually they're shooting the movie right now. A documentary drama, as they call it. The name's gonna be Fiume o morte.
not in today's pc environment
Wait......how the hell would shutting down the brothels prevent riots???
The differing factions of soldiers were mixed together there.
Perhaps the poet was familiar with the play 'Lysistrata' by Aristophanes? 😅
It meant that to get a prostitute they had to take her to a private place.
Brothels where like sex hotels with large common areas and liquor.
Full of British French and Italian troops. And horny yugos. Budding fascists, communists, anarchists, monarchists. And alcohol.
The whole thing left me Fiuming!
Hey, I am surprised that you are talking about my beautiful town, this is great!🌊
Fiume is one of the most beautiful Italian town along the Adriatic, It will return to Italy for sure in next future
"The plan did not take place."
It might have taken a while, but it certainly seems to have worked.
So glad youtube recommended me this, it makes me love and appreciate my home town in a new way. We were always weird, this might explain a lot 😂😂
You know you're dealing with a Studio 54 city state when there was a cocaine embargo...
Just about your best Geo presentation so far Mr Whistler A story where one wants to know what happens next. Thank you
"Free Love, Drugs and Proto Fascism", I thought they were talking about California!
They just left out the homeless
Absolutely fantastic episode! Thank you
Yeah I guess if you've had a life of Free Love and Drugs, regular work never really has the same appeal.
Wow, that was fabulous! Great information and makes the changing of the times a bit clearer? Seems like others were watching and trying to figure out how to make a profit from these ideas/ideals? Not sure their plan succeeded but it looks like a part of the usual pattern of history? Anyway, thanks. May have to watch this again?
Nice video! Thanks for your work. Fun facts: D’Annunzio was surely a slavo-phobic before going to Fiume, but then he fought for the right of Croatian and Slovenian minorities to have their own schools (since the high schools were only Hungarian and primary schools only Italian).
By the way: Mussolini never helped D’Annunzio, he didn’t even send the money from the subscription! Historiography has proven since decade that D’Annunzio was not a fascist, after all.