Great as usual but... John Constable did his best work in Wiltshire? What about The Haywain? Or Willy Lotts Cottage? His best and most famous works are from Flatford and East Bergholt on the Suffolk/Essex border surely?
Chemical weapons are deployed in a fashion that makes it impossible to run from saturated areas. You can't see most nerve agents (spine will tingle ... too late).
My late father was one of the 1950's "Volunteers", he to was told it was a cure for the common cold!! One of the factors in ending the class action in 2008 and accepting the VERY low offer was that so many veterans were ageing and would never see victory in this battle!! My Dad died 2 years later! Thank you for sharing this story, Simon.
I know a guy who did a lot of time in military prison, he claims to have been tested on with anthrax and he does go to a rehab centre for 2 weeks every few months. I wouldnt ever ask him to verify something like that but i do find it hard to believe, this would of been in the late 80s early 90s. Any possibility he is telling the truth?
My Warrant Officer warned me never to volunteer for Porton Down explaining what they did. They also would paint chemicals onto exposed skin to study the effects. On a connected side note, I was one of the Service personnel who had the series of Anthrax injections from 1998 through to my medical discharge in 2008 in the hope we would be protected during exposure. Peace Charlie 🇬🇧
Gas by itself is stationary unless wind gives a hand. It's also generally heavier then air so it sinks to ground level so as long as you either get above it or are upwind you don't even have to move at all. But if it comes towards you RUUUUNNN.
They were still asking for volunteers in the 1980s. My platoon sergeant said he would kick anyone's arse that did. Two weeks extra holiday wasn't worth your health or your life.
"do not volunteer" a great piece of advice for military service, taught to children already and probably for decades if not centuries. nowadays it's more true than ever
1989 was the last date recorded, stated in the video. mmmm.... my dad was given a number of experimental drugs that were meant to help "fight infections and disease" as a "preventative measure."
@RIDIN’ HIGH 5150 Nah, LSD is such a pain to eat or drink or whatever. Better just accept the test trial and put it on your car and then show them mad slides instead :D That is the best LSD.
I did the infamous Porton down battle run in 1986. There wasnt any chemical agents used on us, we just pretty much lived in a CS gas cloud for 3 or 4 days. A few years later in 1995 I went to BATUS in Canada for 4 motnhs helping out another unit. There were areas we were not allowed to even step out of the vehicle we were in, if we did or got stuck in one we were not allowed to move an would have to go through the decontamination process. Who knows what the hell they ere testing out there!
Really getting some Aperture Science vibes from this place. "We've been shooting you with an invisible laser that's supposed to turn blood into gasoline, so all that means is it's working."
I wonder if the threat of similar weapons being used in retaliation was a factor in Hitler never using them in warfare. Perhaps the theory of mutually assured destruction will really work even when a nation is totally conquered
danmanmcleod expect he used a gas on innocent people to systematically murder millions yeah no its was definitely a logical decision and not a moral one
Mustard gas saved my life. A derivative of the mustard gas family, cyclophosphamide, is used in chemotherapy. This application was discovered from the after-effects in soldiers gassed during WWI--like my grandfather. It's a funny world.
The after-effects on my grandfather, trooper in the Royal Scots Greys was a pint of milk a day from the government because of the ulcers in his guts after being gassed at wipers.
@@shubbagin49 What a dismayingly inadequate nod at treatment and appreciation. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm? No wonder so many came home to turn into Angry Young Men.
@@DrakoDragonis It's a tricky ethical question, though. If you disapprove of testing on volunteers, do you propose testing on people who haven't volunteered instead? Because that seems much worse. Or do you propose not testing at all? Because that has potentially horrifying consequences for any people, soldier or civilian, who are exposed to nerve agents. Is just developing something that you vaguely hope might help, and then going "Nah, it'll be fine" really a morally defensible position?
I was of the mugs who went to Porton Down 1967, they ask for soldiers to help find a cure for the common cold. The police inquiry was by Wiltshire and M o D Police. We (4 of us ) given encompassment that lasted 3 days, we were some of the 361 service personnel to be paid compensation.
@ about 12:00 - 15 shillings was 0.75 Pounds. That comes out to roughly 21 Pounds today. That is what they paid Ronald Madison to take a near lethal dose of nerve gas.
In 1979 I worked with an ex RAF regiment guy, apart from the strories of serving in Northern Ireland, he once brought up a story of Porton Down - A notice was posted in the barracks, 1 weeks pay in return for volunteers for Porton, time away from the regiment (5 days) could be taken as you were helping the M.O.D. He and a mate volunteered, his mate was called first and off he went. On his return 5 days later he was covered in huge water blisters all over his exposed skin. Seeing him the guy I worked with immediately withdrew his application :)
What do you think the outbreak in Africa was? It is hardly the only man-made bio-weapon released on the world. Numerous outbreaks in recent years have shown signs of being man-made and engineered, but you'll never hear about that in the news.
@@Nyx_2142 Of course you won't, because it is not true. It is yet another conspiracy theory that has no basis in reality. The outbreaks of Ebola in Africa were caused by people eating wild animals and the disease jumping across species. Bats may have been the original culprits again.
When I enlisted in the Army in 1976, my Dad told me never, ever to volunteer for anything, while I served. He was a WW2 vet that got bombed and badly hurt in the desert. I did as he told me to, one of the very few times I listened to him. Now, after watching this video, it was a freakin' good thing I did. Also, there is no such thing as perfection. It is something we should always strive for. My point is this, at some point, at Porton Downs, and at Bluegrass Army Depot, and others around the world, there will be a release. I'm certain uncontrolled releases have already happened. As long as they exist, it will happen. It just takes time. The thought of a weaponized accidental release of smallpox terrifies me far more than that of anthrax. Smallpox spreads like a wildfire in perfect burning conditions.
AdHocFuture I had a friend who’s mom was one of the first people to be experimented on for the flu vaccine but luckily no side effects by that stage in the trials
@James Sloan My wife and I about a week ago was talking about this as well. If an outbreak occurred, all the young people would suffer greatly. I worry about you young folks.
My Grandad visited Porton Down a fair few times as he worked for the RSRE. He hated it there, he said you'd go for a drink with them after work and they'd spike you with LSD for a laugh.
You cannot speak about Porton Down without Suffield Experimental Station. Whatever experiment they couldn't do at the first was done at the later. Keep up your excellent work!
That 1 death pisses me off tho.. they said they "finally learnt their lesson".. but they had that opportunity on the previous test, when a patient almost died. It was just a competely unnecessary death
All Britain’s chemical weapons were stored at RAF Harpur Hill near Buxton. Including captured German weapons. The place is huge and built in the side of a hill with tunnels that have miniature train tracks. The RAF moved out in the sixties and the place is now an underground industrial estate for several businesses. Rumor is some chemical weapon shells are still down there under concrete.
My grandparents lived in Gomeldon about a mile away from porton down and just up the road from the NBC facility at Winterbourne Gunner. As a kid I never knew what happened there but was always intrigued by the fact that all the land around their house is classed as a military training area with red flags flying constantly. We used to go for bike rides and along one road both sides were training area with the red flags clearly visible. I always found it weird we could ride through the middle of it lol.
(23:32) While we all agree that chemical weapons should be totally removed from existence, there is a very sane reason for keeping small quantities in the lab: it provides the opportunity develop detection of its presence, methods of protection, to provide medical aid to those affected, and develop methods of decontamination. We hope they're handled legally, with responsibility, and with independent oversight.
Humanity and humans in general will never learn their lesson. I remember hearing someone once say that science is only to be used to advance humanity but not at the cost of the very humanity it claims to be serving.
A really interesting piece! Thank you for this insight into the goings on of Porton Down! Interesting that you note the 2007 foot and mouth outbreak! I was living in the area affected by the outbreak. I remember when leaving the area, cars had to be disinfected etc. I also remember dozens of helicopters flying overhead!
There's no question that a site like Porton Down is absolutely essential for the security of a nation. It's one of those things that you hope never to need, but if you DO need it you don't have time to wait for it to be built. But there is a HUGE difference between "We need a place like Porton Down" and "We need a place like Porton Down to operate without ethics, oversight, or accountability". Indeed, sites like PD need the _strictest_ oversight and accountability, even if it's top secret, because the consequences when they fuck up are so potentially massive.
Second comment but worth it: My brother was an IT purchaser at porton and had really bad runs. Cue him having the toilet door knocked on by guys in full NBC gear and being zipped up in a clear body bag to be whisked to Salisbury hospital as the base went on full shutdown. Massively invasive testing later (bum probes, gum injections etc) turns out it was a dodgy Dominoes Pizza. I remind him of this on a regular basis 😂
Hi I was part of the police investigation, operation Antler, having been gassed at Porton Down in 1964. I had been seconded (without reward) to a couple of their experiments and testing on newly introduced masks and NBC combat gear. I never got any compensation and still take daily medicine. I am now 78. I was very I’ll at the time of our experiment which was carried out, deliberately in windy conditions. Dale.
Yep, I've read loads of books in the 90's and read up on Porton Down in the early 2000's when fast internet became more common (512k broadband :-D ) and was interested and horrified at the same time from what I learnt!
I knew some of this, but not all. I'm pretty sure I saw magazine adverts for testing volunteers. We knew about the "Centre for the Common Cold" but not all this. Thank you for sharing this vital history.
Another suggestion along these lines - the Hanford Site in Eastern Washington State, USA. Lots of "fun" isotopes buried there to this day, the site of 40 years of Nuclear Weapons Plutonium production - as well as some bizzare "farm" experiments in the late 1940s, the "Downwinder" story, and a gigantic cleanup effort. The first full-sized nuclear reactor was built there, and is now a museum that can be toured. Enrico Fermi's office chair is there, and you can even catch the occasional choir performance in front of the reactor face.
Uep. I worry about the underground tanks. A lot of very nasty stuff in them. Hopefully, they've started emptying them and dealing with the contents. In an interview for a documentary, a tribal elder said that people ask if anything fished out of the Columbia River is safe to eat and he said he tells them that he doesn't know. The whole thing is a hot mess.
I com[pleted a NBC instructors course at Porton Down in the later half of the 80's....I remember during years of my military service notices appeared asking for volunteers to go to Porton Down for 2 weeks to take part in experiments and you would paid for each experiment. i knew one lad who went for 3 weeks (his actual leave, which he got back) as he was skint and thought it would be a good idea. he did a sh*t load of experiment's leading up to his final one of a blister agent being applied to his hand near to the web of the thumb. I saw him some 3 years later and he was still as mad as when i first met him except his agent burn looked around the size of a 50p piece and he said it itched, i asked was it worth it, i wont write down his reply.........brought back memories lol
I've been there a couple of times., delivering plant machinery. I didn't know all this stuff then, otherwise I'd have told my boss to f...send someone else.
22:48 Word about Porton Down's postwar experimental work got out long before the 1990s. Alan Scott's 1971 novel Project Dracula refers to Porton Down's research into nerve agents. A Higher Form of Killing: The Secret Story of Gas and Germ Warfare, published in April 1, 1982 by Robert Harris, Jeremy Paxman also discusses the matter.
I heard a radio 4 programme about the common cold experiments at Porton Down. The one that stuck in my head was British top brass wanted a drug to increase the com at performance of infantry, like the Nazi's did with amphetamines. A group of volunteer troops were given huge doses of LSD, about 6 times stonger than most street doses. The soldiers were then ordered to perform basic military manourves against a fortified position. You can imagine the chaos. People confused, hallucinating, unable to do anything. One sergeant was noted to be sobbing and moaning "who is in charge here". From a BBC radio 4 programme about 20 years ago.
In the early 90s I had the opportunity to be tested at Porton Down... due to the Gulf War they were desperate for volunteers. After a lot of considerarion though I thought it all rather suspect and - regardless of the money - not to volunteer for 'trials'. I think it was all for the best, in retrospect.
This was in a time where it was a lot easier to keep things like this a secret. One of the most powerful governments in the world couldn't keep what Clinton was doing under the sheets a secret, do you honestly believe they could cover up something actually important for any length of time? All it would take is one person on their deathbed who has nothing to lose, that's it. Conspiracy theories are a joke.
I was in the forces in the 1980s and as many have said, never volunteer for anything. Unless you need a bit of extra cash or some extra leave. I volunteered twice, The first time we were told to dress in full NBC kit, so suit, respirator, gloves, over boots etc. We then spend two days with electrodes attached to our skin as we were told to repeatedly do the assault course time after time and then play football. All to test dehydration, sensory deprivation etc. Tiring but harmless. The second time we were told no NDC kit required and were told to defend a small copse. We thought we were the enemy force defending the copse against the test guinea pigs. A scientist approached and placed a large box a short distance away, monitoring equipment we thought. After a short while strange things started to happen, one mate started shooting blanks at dandelions, another was just led on the ground watching the clouds in the sky, I was enjoying watching the trees walk about. Eventually the boffins approached and suggested we give them our heavy riffles as they looked uncomfortable, we did. The test was to see how easily trained soldiers could be disarmed without harm or destroying property and equipment. The strange box mentioned earlier contained LSD gas. Two days resting as the effects cleared and we got extra leave.
John Constable’s best work was done not in Wiltshire, but in the area known as Constable Country; southern Suffolk around Flatford Mill and Dedham Vale.
Interesting about the 2007 foot an mouth outbreak, I cannot remember the press mentioning that it was a fault pipe at Porton Down that caused the outbreak.
It wasn't Porton down it was the advanced effluent pipes from either the Institute for Animal Health or the similar vaccine researching and producing Merial Animal Health laboratory near to Pirbright village in the county of Surrey- the pipes were too old and/or insufficiently inspected given their importance. An inspection of the effluent pipes and manholes carried out for the HSE investigators showed deficiencies and the independent investigation of Professor Brian Spratt concluded that it was very likely that they occasionally leaked still-infectious effluent at the time of the outbreak.
We even did nerve gas trials in Suffield Range, Alberta, Canada. It took 30 years to get the information declassified under the then new access to information act of 1985. The tests were done in the 1950s in looking for a cure for nerve gas attacks. Suffield is considered Canada's Area 51 site.
Because if you didn’t you would have been traumatically shocked instead. You found the humor to keep yourself from freaking out at how diabolical and wrong that test was!😉
There's a popular marine textbook for boaters that contains a section on various bilge-pump types. It ends with "The most efficient pumping unit is probably a frightened man with a bucket." :D
My father was stationed there in the early 50's, My mother said dad had to go in a gas chamber to get a weekend pass to see her! When my father applied to marry my mother, she didn't pass for approval as a great great-ish grandfather on her mother side served on Napoleons ship! Dad was a batman and officer he served managed to overturn the CO's decision. The the day he died five years ago, if you mentioned Porton down, his answer was "Queen and country" Refused to even acknowledge it exists.
I volunteered for a study there when I was in the RAF. The doctor went into detail of the tests and I rapidly changed my mind! Definitely wasnt worth the £50 they were offering! 🙈
I had a History Teacher that had Volunteered to Fight in WWII . He told us a Story of being in Basic Training before going to Europe . They were in a Lecture Room and the Superiors ( WWI VETS ) asked for Volunteers . No one was putting up there hands . So he Put his up . They pulled him up and Poked his arm with something . He missed going with his Buddies and was in the Hospital for 6 months . He survived the war . His buddies didn't .
Survived mustard gas, shrapnel, stormed two machine gun nests, a British soldier didn't shoot him because pitty/WWI ended and numerous assassination attempts. I wonder, did he ever buy a lottery ticket? Go to Las Vegas, make his way to the roulette tables, "all on bleck, unt you, server froline, bring me a schnapps! Ja, I vont it all on bleck, unt let it rrrride!" Oh, and have I ever heard of Anthrax? Hell yes I have. They were kinda big in the late 80's. My favorite album of theirs is State of Europhia. Favorite song on that album is Finally.
I served in the Royal Navy as a Radio Operator in the 80s/90s. I distinctly remember receiving signals asking for "volunteers" to go to Porton Down. Even then we all knew that only a fool would put their name forward. Although I saw the signals, i never ONCE heard that information disseminated to the men actually asking them to volunteer. Later on i was involved in the First Gulf War. I began to suffer from very strange symptoms upon my return home and cut a long story short became a campaigner as the finger was being firmly pointed at Nerve Agent Pre-treatment tablets and the various Anthrax and Plague Vaccines etc. I submitted an FOI request asking about the testing regime of the Nerve Agent Pretreatment tablets. The response stated that they were tested on fewer than 10 people in the 1960s. That was it. That FOI response has since dissappeared from the website. They then dished those out across UK, US, Canadian and Australian forces to hundreds of thousands of men and women. Only a fool woukd trust their government and that's the reason I refused ALL Covid vaccines. Once bitten twice shy. What a great decision that was
Brian May was a world-famous guitarist, known for his work with the band Queen. He was also a brilliant scientist, with a PhD in astrophysics. But there was one thing that Brian was not known for: his love of stuffed animals. It all started when Brian was a child. He was given a stuffed animal dog named Humphrey for his birthday. Humphrey quickly became Brian's best friend. He took him everywhere with him, and they would often cuddle up together on the couch. As Brian got older, he never lost his love of stuffed animals. He would often buy new ones, and he would even bring them on tour with him. One day, Brian was on tour in Japan when he saw a stuffed animal that he absolutely had to have. It was a giant, blue whale named Cushion. Brian bought Cushion immediately, and he brought him back to his hotel room. Brian was so excited about his new friend that he couldn't sleep that night. He just lay in bed, holding Cushion close and talking to him. The next morning, Brian woke up and realized that he had feelings for Cushion. He didn't know how it had happened, but he had fallen in love with a stuffed animal. Brian was scared to admit his feelings to anyone, but he couldn't keep them a secret any longer. He went to his friend Roger Taylor and told him everything. Roger was surprised, but he was also supportive. He told Brian that it was okay to love whoever he wanted, even if it was a stuffed animal. Brian was relieved to hear Roger's words. He finally felt like he could be himself. Brian and Cushion were inseparable from that day on. They went everywhere together, and they even slept in the same bed. One day, Brian was playing a show with Queen when he started to feel sick. He went backstage and collapsed. The doctors diagnosed him with a rare disease, and they said that he didn't have much time left. Brian was devastated. He didn't want to die without saying goodbye to Cushion. Brian went home and called Cushion to his side. He told Cushion how much he loved him, and he thanked him for being his best friend. Then, Brian kissed Cushion on the forehead. Brian died a few days later, but he was at peace. He knew that he would always be with Cushion, even in death.
Germans with Sarin: "If we use this, the British will retaliate." British with Anthrax: "This weapon is immoral." Americans with nukes: *Excited squealing*
One of the interesting things I learned is that the major powers are side stepping the international laws of stockpiles and production of chemical weapons. Why? How? They have developed binary formulations so that there are no weapons being produced or stored, only this unusual artillery round or a different kind of airal bomb to to deliver these formulations. Those binary mixtures don't become weapons until mixed by the unusual delivery devices.
I worked there throughout spring/summer ‘98... We amazingly had access to a lot of the camp, indoors and out... probably all I should tell you. Some mad shit goes on there.
Great video I live near portion and thought this was an amazingly detailed video. However altho I understand and agree with sponsors in videos Ronald maddison died, I didn't like that the subject of his death was used as suspense to promote a sponsor. Felt a bit wrong.
Probably worth mentioning that porton down also has an incredibly large role in the destruction of chemical weapons from abroad and in england, most of the activity there nowadays seems to be getting rid of the weapons than creating them!
@@geographicstravel Its also the site of a number of research companies - including one working on Medicinal use of Cannabis for serious diseases and conditions. Its not one building - its more of a complex of different labs and projects.
They have a whole team that deal with old mustard gas munitions that get dug up and found. The BBC did a documentary on Porton explaining some of its roles.
Symptoms of poisoning by organophosphate (a class of nerve agent to which sarin belongs): MUDDLES Miosis (pinpoint pupil) Urination Diarrhea Diaphoresis (excessive sweating) Lacrimation (tear production) Excitation (or Emesis [vomiting]) Salivation (drooling)
All of the British Military's personal protective equipment is designed, developed and tested at Porton Down. All of the protective equipment that was used by the police and personnel dealing with the Novichok attacks in Salisbury was developed at Porton Down, and Porton Down was the only place that was capable of dealing with all of the novichok contaminated items recovered. For that I am grateful. It is not something you want lingering around.
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Thank you for this video it was really interesting for as dark as it may be it was still fun to watch
My idea is too dangerous after watching this great presentation.
Great as usual but... John Constable did his best work in Wiltshire? What about The Haywain? Or Willy Lotts Cottage? His best and most famous works are from Flatford and East Bergholt on the Suffolk/Essex border surely?
Keep it professional, no memes please.
Ohh but the novichok was definitely russian right
"A sufficiently terrified man can indeed outrun a chemical weapon"
Glorious adrenaline, keeping humans alive since before we've been humans.
Chemical weapons are deployed in a fashion that makes it impossible to run from saturated areas. You can't see most nerve agents (spine will tingle ... too late).
"Keeping humans alive before we were humans" ....wow...just..wow lol..
AWOLNATION RUN meme plays.
Run Forest Run!
And God bless blunt force head trauma. After a good shot to the bean everything that comes after is gravy.
My late father was one of the 1950's "Volunteers", he to was told it was a cure for the common cold!! One of the factors in ending the class action in 2008 and accepting the VERY low offer was that so many veterans were ageing and would never see victory in this battle!! My Dad died 2 years later! Thank you for sharing this story, Simon.
But At Least it's not Aralsk 7!
Bless you and your father. Lest we forget
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You said "Volunteers". So he was forced in to it?
@@tesfurdo Dude, the man was tricked into volunteering under false pretenses. Told it was a cure for the common cold, not a test for nerve gas.
First thing you learn in the military ... don't volunteer for anything.
Specially not to "help cure the common cold..." you know that thing that everyone knows there's no cure for because it keeps evolving.
My dad (a WW2 vet' ) said that in his day, the motto was: "Never be first, never last, never be best, never be worst, and never volunteer."
@@kevinbyrne4538 That is sage level advice :)
I was told “Never volunteer for, or admit to anything”.
I know a guy who did a lot of time in military prison, he claims to have been tested on with anthrax and he does go to a rehab centre for 2 weeks every few months. I wouldnt ever ask him to verify something like that but i do find it hard to believe, this would of been in the late 80s early 90s. Any possibility he is telling the truth?
My Warrant Officer warned me never to volunteer for Porton Down explaining what they did.
They also would paint chemicals onto exposed skin to study the effects.
On a connected side note, I was one of the Service personnel who had the series of Anthrax injections from 1998 through to my medical discharge in 2008 in the hope we would be protected during exposure.
Peace
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Charlie Manson yeh, good story walt
@@damowilliams204 theres good lad, look at you getting all excited.
No walting here princess.
Stay safe
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@@charliemansonUK my name is Charlie and I write like its 1873 because I'm a boring fuck
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"Dude, this stuff really did a number on these 5 guys. How many more times do we need to test this?"
"Eh, about 4000."
WTF?!
At least it's not Aralsk 7!
Until all the poor animals in the lab are dead?
@Tom W I said it... ONE TIME.
@@IronWarhorsesFun The amount you said "At least it's not Aralsk 7!" in this section got me saying it myself
@@stein1885 Well 2021 is here so I'm sure Trump has got something equally insane brewing.
So, the question is...
If I'm a mad scientist, looking to create even -deadlier- nerve gasses, can SquareSpace assist me in achieving my goals?
Probably not if you want to remain out of prison ;)
@@geographicstravel Eh - if he´s successful and markets it to the right people, he´ll be swimming in milititary-industrial money.
Asking for a friend?
And end up in a small squarish space for the rest of your life.
@@aa2339 interesting toght tho? right right?
“Yes, a sufficiently terrified man can outrun the gas” I almost pissed my pants! As the guy running from the gas I’m sure
Glorious adrenaline, keeping humans alive since before we were humans.
A Sprinter can, How about a normal 20 yo Squaddie weighed down with 50kg of kit & Weapons?
SOUNDS LIKE A GAS!
Gas by itself is stationary unless wind gives a hand. It's also generally heavier then air so it sinks to ground level so as long as you either get above it or are upwind you don't even have to move at all. But if it comes towards you RUUUUNNN.
@@bremnersghost948 dump the kit, not worth it.
Yeah, I'm sure they learned their lessons. Lessons on keeping secrets better
The Skripol experiment illustrates your point nicely.
And yet, GDI can never keep their secrets long, can they, General Slavik?
In the name of Kane!
Sadly, that seems to be the only lesson government entities seem to learn.
They were still asking for volunteers in the 1980s. My platoon sergeant said he would kick anyone's arse that did. Two weeks extra holiday wasn't worth your health or your life.
Yep, kept coming up on daily orders.
"do not volunteer"
a great piece of advice for military service, taught to children already and probably for decades if not centuries. nowadays it's more true than ever
1989 was the last date recorded, stated in the video. mmmm.... my dad was given a number of experimental drugs that were meant to help "fight infections and disease" as a "preventative measure."
@RIDIN’ HIGH 5150 lol dont they would probably give a while cup of lsd n tell u to drink it lol
@RIDIN’ HIGH 5150 Nah, LSD is such a pain to eat or drink or whatever.
Better just accept the test trial and put it on your car and then show them mad slides instead :D
That is the best LSD.
I did the infamous Porton down battle run in 1986. There wasnt any chemical agents used on us, we just pretty much lived in a CS gas cloud for 3 or 4 days.
A few years later in 1995 I went to BATUS in Canada for 4 motnhs helping out another unit. There were areas we were not allowed to even step out of the vehicle we were in, if we did or got stuck in one we were not allowed to move an would have to go through the decontamination process. Who knows what the hell they ere testing out there!
"Better than the USSR" isn't a good bar to set, unless you're a gymnast trying to set a limbo record.
next stop better then the devil himself i gues :).
@Jose Raul Miguens Cruz the USSR didn't pretend this shit never happened for decades afterwards.
@@IronWarhorsesFun When it was revealed the USSR didn't exist anymore. Same story in the DDR and Romania.
@@Markle2k kruchev actually gave up quite a lot when it came to what was done under Stalin.
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Don't ever be the first, don't ever be the last and DON'T EVER VOLUNTEER FOR ANYTHING.
Oh, you mean like the anti-covid injections being tested on humans now?
Correct
Really getting some Aperture Science vibes from this place.
"We've been shooting you with an invisible laser that's supposed to turn blood into gasoline, so all that means is it's working."
You know that a weapon is truly gruesome when even Hitler said no to using it.
I wonder if the threat of similar weapons being used in retaliation was a factor in Hitler never using them in warfare. Perhaps the theory of mutually assured destruction will really work even when a nation is totally conquered
@@themadhammer3305 He was legitimately pretty traumatized by what he saw and experienced in WWI, I think he was blind for a week after a gas attack
Even HE wouldn't wish that on his worst enemy.
danmanmcleod expect he used a gas on innocent people to systematically murder millions yeah no its was definitely a logical decision and not a moral one
@@steve29384 technically that'd mean that he'd wish it on his worst enemy, just not anybody else.
Mustard gas saved my life. A derivative of the mustard gas family, cyclophosphamide, is used in chemotherapy. This application was discovered from the after-effects in soldiers gassed during WWI--like my grandfather. It's a funny world.
The after-effects on my grandfather, trooper in the Royal Scots Greys was a pint of milk a day from the government because of the ulcers in his guts after being gassed at wipers.
Several of our worst atrocities have lead to great things in their wake.
@@shubbagin49 What a dismayingly inadequate nod at treatment and appreciation. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm? No wonder so many came home to turn into Angry Young Men.
So, mustard gas almost killing your grandfather caused mustard gas to save your life? Weird world... Damn weird world...
@dethrophes Yes, they are--but it's the specific history of this one that makes it more compelling.
1:35 - Chapter 1 - Gassed
5:10 - Chapter 2 - A taboo family
9:05 - Chapter 3 - The experiments
12:30 - Mid roll ads
14:05 - Chapter 4 - Death comes to porton
17:45 - Chapter 5 - Bioweapons & Secret trials
21:25 - Chapter 6 - Lifting the lid
Who needs enemies when you have 'friends' like these...
@A Moye Pretty sure Simon did a video on that on the channel TopTenz. I think it is "10 Horrifying Declassified Secrets".
Perhaps if you hadnt friends like these you would be writting this comment in german
@@Jimskateuk If you believe testing on your own people is fine, then you're just as sociopathic are they are.
Most frontline soldiers in WW1 for a start, cosidering those "friends" developed the gas masks that protected them from German chemicals.
@@DrakoDragonis It's a tricky ethical question, though. If you disapprove of testing on volunteers, do you propose testing on people who haven't volunteered instead? Because that seems much worse. Or do you propose not testing at all? Because that has potentially horrifying consequences for any people, soldier or civilian, who are exposed to nerve agents. Is just developing something that you vaguely hope might help, and then going "Nah, it'll be fine" really a morally defensible position?
I was of the mugs who went to Porton Down 1967, they ask for soldiers to help find a cure for the common cold. The police inquiry was by Wiltshire and M o D Police. We (4 of us ) given encompassment that lasted 3 days, we were some of the 361 service personnel to be paid compensation.
Is it rude to ask how your health is? I'm guessing there was no accountability.
All the best.
was anyone ever held to account for this nightmare ?
Recall the compensation?
Didn't expect to hear about my grandfather, Alfred Thornhill, on this so thank you as I miss him every single day
@ about 12:00 - 15 shillings was 0.75 Pounds. That comes out to roughly 21 Pounds today. That is what they paid Ronald Madison to take a near lethal dose of nerve gas.
doing some quick American math, that works out to... almost $17,000,000 USD! wow, I'd definitely sign up!
In 1979 I worked with an ex RAF regiment guy, apart from the strories of serving in Northern Ireland, he once brought up a story of Porton Down - A notice was posted in the barracks, 1 weeks pay in return for volunteers for Porton, time away from the regiment (5 days) could be taken as you were helping the M.O.D. He and a mate volunteered, his mate was called first and off he went. On his return 5 days later he was covered in huge water blisters all over his exposed skin. Seeing him the guy I worked with immediately withdrew his application :)
Porton's been open to commercial business for years. Dyson did their early dust extraction efficiency test there for their dual cyclone.
I remember my training staff telling us in 1989 " DO NOT VOLUNTEER FOR THIS PLACE "
The phrase “weaponized Ebola” sent a chill down my spine like I’ve never felt before
Yes, I also ejaculated
What do you think the outbreak in Africa was? It is hardly the only man-made bio-weapon released on the world. Numerous outbreaks in recent years have shown signs of being man-made and engineered, but you'll never hear about that in the news.
Not as much as mine! I live on the south coast about 25 miles away!
Corona virus
@@Nyx_2142 Of course you won't, because it is not true. It is yet another conspiracy theory that has no basis in reality. The outbreaks of Ebola in Africa were caused by people eating wild animals and the disease jumping across species. Bats may have been the original culprits again.
When I enlisted in the Army in 1976, my Dad told me never, ever to volunteer for anything, while I served. He was a WW2 vet that got bombed and badly hurt in the desert. I did as he told me to, one of the very few times I listened to him. Now, after watching this video, it was a freakin' good thing I did. Also, there is no such thing as perfection. It is something we should always strive for. My point is this, at some point, at Porton Downs, and at Bluegrass Army Depot, and others around the world, there will be a release. I'm certain uncontrolled releases have already happened. As long as they exist, it will happen. It just takes time. The thought of a weaponized accidental release of smallpox terrifies me far more than that of anthrax. Smallpox spreads like a wildfire in perfect burning conditions.
Very good advice.
AdHocFuture I had a friend who’s mom was one of the first people to be experimented on for the flu vaccine but luckily no side effects by that stage in the trials
@James Sloan My wife and I about a week ago was talking about this as well. If an outbreak occurred, all the young people would suffer greatly. I worry about you young folks.
@James Sloan explain further, what plan do you mean?
@@shadsalah4716 He is suggesting that people are no longer being vaccinated because "they" are planning to intentionally create a smallpox outbreak.
Today we learn on Geographics “A sufficiently terrified man can indeed outrun a chemical weapon”
My Grandad visited Porton Down a fair few times as he worked for the RSRE. He hated it there, he said you'd go for a drink with them after work and they'd spike you with LSD for a laugh.
This video sponsored by Porton Down, we do good things now quit asking questions.
So wait us British did terrible things in regards to warfare? Well I've never heard of such a thing!
Only thing worse than sarin is people who put the milk in first when making a brew
@@MattyMcFly_ Those people are monsters. Shame on you for making such a comparison.
@@leeboy26 people who put milk in their tea first are definitely more detrimental to my health than sarin gas. I think my comparison is pretty fair
@@MattyMcFly_ I wasn't disagreeing.
@@leeboy26 Oh Im following you 😂 comparing those monsters to the creators and users of sarin probably was a bit harsh to be fair
You cannot speak about Porton Down without Suffield Experimental Station. Whatever experiment they couldn't do at the first was done at the later. Keep up your excellent work!
That 1 death pisses me off tho.. they said they "finally learnt their lesson".. but they had that opportunity on the previous test, when a patient almost died. It was just a competely unnecessary death
All Britain’s chemical weapons were stored at RAF Harpur Hill near Buxton. Including captured German weapons. The place is huge and built in the side of a hill with tunnels that have miniature train tracks. The RAF moved out in the sixties and the place is now an underground industrial estate for several businesses. Rumor is some chemical weapon shells are still down there under concrete.
My grandparents lived in Gomeldon about a mile away from porton down and just up the road from the NBC facility at Winterbourne Gunner. As a kid I never knew what happened there but was always intrigued by the fact that all the land around their house is classed as a military training area with red flags flying constantly. We used to go for bike rides and along one road both sides were training area with the red flags clearly visible. I always found it weird we could ride through the middle of it lol.
Winterbourne Gunner is the station chosen for the training NBC/CBRNe Instructors
In the Army, we don't "volunteer", instead we're *VolunTOLD!!*
In the British army you're volunteered
(23:32) While we all agree that chemical weapons should be totally removed from existence, there is a very sane reason for keeping small quantities in the lab: it provides the opportunity develop detection of its presence, methods of protection, to provide medical aid to those affected, and develop methods of decontamination. We hope they're handled legally, with responsibility, and with independent oversight.
Porton Down does a load more than “just” bio/chemical weapons. The stuff hidden away is way beyond anything we will hear on TH-cam.
like what the doctor TARDIS?
@@Username-lw4mi 🤣
I love this channel!!! Everything Simon and the team do is amazing!! Keep it up guys!!! ❤️
>"a mild experiment to find a cure for the common cold"
Now sounds almost as scary as the truth 😂
"We did cure your cold, silly. You can't have a cold if you're dead!"
5:50 Weird sound glitch there. Mic problems for that one line?
Good to know that I wasn't the only one who heard. I thought my earphones were dying, but phew
@@F.K98 audiophiles everywhere rejoice
Humanity and humans in general will never learn their lesson. I remember hearing someone once say that science is only to be used to advance humanity but not at the cost of the very humanity it claims to be serving.
A really interesting piece! Thank you for this insight into the goings on of Porton Down!
Interesting that you note the 2007 foot and mouth outbreak! I was living in the area affected by the outbreak.
I remember when leaving the area, cars had to be disinfected etc. I also remember dozens of helicopters flying overhead!
There's no question that a site like Porton Down is absolutely essential for the security of a nation. It's one of those things that you hope never to need, but if you DO need it you don't have time to wait for it to be built. But there is a HUGE difference between "We need a place like Porton Down" and "We need a place like Porton Down to operate without ethics, oversight, or accountability". Indeed, sites like PD need the _strictest_ oversight and accountability, even if it's top secret, because the consequences when they fuck up are so potentially massive.
The evil that lie in the heart and mind of men has no boundaries.
Second comment but worth it:
My brother was an IT purchaser at porton and had really bad runs. Cue him having the toilet door knocked on by guys in full NBC gear and being zipped up in a clear body bag to be whisked to Salisbury hospital as the base went on full shutdown.
Massively invasive testing later (bum probes, gum injections etc) turns out it was a dodgy Dominoes Pizza.
I remind him of this on a regular basis 😂
Shouldn't work there if he couldn't take a joke!
Porton Down is starting to become open to non government businesses.
Source: nearly got a job there
This idiot once worked there. You are very correct. Not only government work now
Hi I was part of the police investigation, operation Antler, having been gassed at Porton Down in 1964.
I had been seconded (without reward) to a couple of their experiments and testing on newly introduced masks and NBC combat gear.
I never got any compensation and still take daily medicine. I am now 78.
I was very I’ll at the time of our experiment which was carried out, deliberately in windy conditions.
Dale.
Yep, I've read loads of books in the 90's and read up on Porton Down in the early 2000's when fast internet became more common (512k broadband :-D ) and was interested and horrified at the same time from what I learnt!
It wasn't spelling
I knew some of this, but not all. I'm pretty sure I saw magazine adverts for testing volunteers. We knew about the "Centre for the Common Cold" but not all this. Thank you for sharing this vital history.
Another suggestion along these lines - the Hanford Site in Eastern Washington State, USA. Lots of "fun" isotopes buried there to this day, the site of 40 years of Nuclear Weapons Plutonium production - as well as some bizzare "farm" experiments in the late 1940s, the "Downwinder" story, and a gigantic cleanup effort. The first full-sized nuclear reactor was built there, and is now a museum that can be toured. Enrico Fermi's office chair is there, and you can even catch the occasional choir performance in front of the reactor face.
Uep. I worry about the underground tanks. A lot of very nasty stuff in them. Hopefully, they've started emptying them and dealing with the contents.
In an interview for a documentary, a tribal elder said that people ask if anything fished out of the Columbia River is safe to eat and he said he tells them that he doesn't know. The whole thing is a hot mess.
Threw a lot of gas at him and said "run" ! I can't stop laughing 😂💀
Could've been worse; a heavy baton with "DROP ME AND RUN" embossed on it's side :O
Not really a secret is it. It's been in numerous books, films, quatermass even bloody Dr Who.
If you've never heard of Antharx.... oh yes Spreading the Disease, Among the Living... Great albums.
A lot of John Constables best works were in Suffolk, where he was from. Also the germans used phosgene gas, not phosthene gas
I com[pleted a NBC instructors course at Porton Down in the later half of the 80's....I remember during years of my military service notices appeared asking for volunteers to go to Porton Down for 2 weeks to take part in experiments and you would paid for each experiment. i knew one lad who went for 3 weeks (his actual leave, which he got back) as he was skint and thought it would be a good idea. he did a sh*t load of experiment's leading up to his final one of a blister agent being applied to his hand near to the web of the thumb. I saw him some 3 years later and he was still as mad as when i first met him except his agent burn looked around the size of a 50p piece and he said it itched, i asked was it worth it, i wont write down his reply.........brought back memories lol
22:57 ...Aaaaaaand *Simon* reenacting *"Max Headroom"*
Oh this should be good. As a local and former employee at porton down, I love to read and hear peoples theories lol
Its DSTL PTN tut tut Lainey lol
I've been there a couple of times., delivering plant machinery. I didn't know all this stuff then, otherwise I'd have told my boss to f...send someone else.
CloneDaddy ive been there for the same reason to the part heavily guarded at the back, its a scary thought!
22:48 Word about Porton Down's postwar experimental work got out long before the 1990s. Alan Scott's 1971 novel Project Dracula refers to Porton Down's research into nerve agents. A Higher Form of Killing: The Secret Story of Gas and Germ Warfare, published in April 1, 1982 by Robert Harris, Jeremy Paxman also discusses the matter.
Fabulous watch, as usual. But it does make you very nervous about those who 'guard us'.
Who shall guard the guards themselves....
Quis custodiet, ipsos custodes
Lainey-Lou Watson How wonderful. One never expects a little Latin in a TH-cam discourse. A Greek farce perhaps. But not Latin.
@@kellypaws ah latin is my favourite language. And this happens to be my favourite saying, along with Mea Culpa..
I heard a radio 4 programme about the common cold experiments at Porton Down. The one that stuck in my head was British top brass wanted a drug to increase the com at performance of infantry, like the Nazi's did with amphetamines.
A group of volunteer troops were given huge doses of LSD, about 6 times stonger than most street doses.
The soldiers were then ordered to perform basic military manourves against a fortified position.
You can imagine the chaos. People confused, hallucinating, unable to do anything. One sergeant was noted to be sobbing and moaning "who is in charge here".
From a BBC radio 4 programme about 20 years ago.
3:44 i don't think I was supposed to laugh
In the early 90s I had the opportunity to be tested at Porton Down... due to the Gulf War they were desperate for volunteers. After a lot of considerarion though I thought it all rather suspect and - regardless of the money - not to volunteer for 'trials'. I think it was all for the best, in retrospect.
Imagine what we don't know..
Most of this we weren't going to know
They probably got ray guns now
This was in a time where it was a lot easier to keep things like this a secret. One of the most powerful governments in the world couldn't keep what Clinton was doing under the sheets a secret, do you honestly believe they could cover up something actually important for any length of time? All it would take is one person on their deathbed who has nothing to lose, that's it. Conspiracy theories are a joke.
I'd rather not know
@@jimjambananaslam3596 . . . if that helps you sleep at night more power to ya.
I was in the forces in the 1980s and as many have said, never volunteer for anything. Unless you need a bit of extra cash or some extra leave. I volunteered twice, The first time we were told to dress in full NBC kit, so suit, respirator, gloves, over boots etc. We then spend two days with electrodes attached to our skin as we were told to repeatedly do the assault course time after time and then play football. All to test dehydration, sensory deprivation etc. Tiring but harmless. The second time we were told no NDC kit required and were told to defend a small copse. We thought we were the enemy force defending the copse against the test guinea pigs. A scientist approached and placed a large box a short distance away, monitoring equipment we thought. After a short while strange things started to happen, one mate started shooting blanks at dandelions, another was just led on the ground watching the clouds in the sky, I was enjoying watching the trees walk about. Eventually the boffins approached and suggested we give them our heavy riffles as they looked uncomfortable, we did. The test was to see how easily trained soldiers could be disarmed without harm or destroying property and equipment. The strange box mentioned earlier contained LSD gas. Two days resting as the effects cleared and we got extra leave.
John Constable’s best work was done not in Wiltshire, but in the area known as Constable Country; southern Suffolk around Flatford Mill and Dedham Vale.
Dan Halford - 100% Suffolk
This is where 28 days later started. And where it will begin for real… a good one.
Interesting about the 2007 foot an mouth outbreak, I cannot remember the press mentioning that it was a fault pipe at Porton Down that caused the outbreak.
The press are only allowed to tell the people what those in control let them tell...
@@stepheneyles2198 And/or direct them (the press) in the telling.
@Miss Liberty Bella I heard it was because someone dropped a half eaten sandwich in a pig pen, the swineflu was in the sandwich
It wasn't Porton down it was the advanced effluent pipes from either the Institute for Animal Health or the similar vaccine researching and producing Merial Animal Health laboratory near to Pirbright village in the county of Surrey- the pipes were too old and/or insufficiently inspected given their importance. An inspection of the effluent pipes and manholes carried out for the HSE investigators showed deficiencies and the independent investigation of Professor Brian Spratt concluded that it was very likely that they occasionally leaked still-infectious effluent at the time of the outbreak.
@@ianbirchenough5558 spot on
We even did nerve gas trials in Suffield Range, Alberta, Canada. It took 30 years to get the information declassified under the then new access to information act of 1985. The tests were done in the 1950s in looking for a cure for nerve gas attacks. Suffield is considered Canada's Area 51 site.
I live about 60 miles from Suffield.They have a 5 story underground lab there
“Yes! A sufficiently terrified man Can outrun a chemical weapon!”
Why did I laugh at this?
Because if you didn’t you would have been traumatically shocked instead. You found the humor to keep yourself from freaking out at how diabolical and wrong that test was!😉
There's a popular marine textbook for boaters that contains a section on various bilge-pump types. It ends with "The most efficient pumping unit is probably a frightened man with a bucket." :D
My father was stationed there in the early 50's, My mother said dad had to go in a gas chamber to get a weekend pass to see her! When my father applied to marry my mother, she didn't pass for approval as a great great-ish grandfather on her mother side served on Napoleons ship! Dad was a batman and officer he served managed to overturn the CO's decision.
The the day he died five years ago, if you mentioned Porton down, his answer was "Queen and country" Refused to even acknowledge it exists.
Anyone else watching this while in quarantine?
me
Eight months later…
I'm watching this after watching the news telling us to get an experimental vaccine...
Again in quarantine 10 months later.
Ahhhh when porton down is a 5 minute walk away from your house.
@23:30 is the road I go through everyday
I volunteered for a study there when I was in the RAF. The doctor went into detail of the tests and I rapidly changed my mind! Definitely wasnt worth the £50 they were offering! 🙈
You must LITERALLY be the one person they were honest to. Maybe you got a actual human being!
@@IronWarhorsesFun Theres still no saying they were being honest, what they said was scary, the reality may have been even worse!!! 🙈
@@Nicho137Racing wouldn't be surprised!
@Gabriel That was 2003.
Thank you for your hard work putting this together
Ahh PortonDown...I live 5 mins away from there...and that's walking.
I had a History Teacher that had Volunteered to Fight in WWII . He told us a Story of being in Basic Training before going to Europe . They were in a Lecture Room and the Superiors ( WWI VETS ) asked for Volunteers . No one was putting up there hands . So he Put his up . They pulled him up and Poked his arm with something . He missed going with his Buddies and was in the Hospital for 6 months . He survived the war . His buddies didn't .
I'm rather glad that the Nazis "never" had the occasion to use that gas, they could have easily wiped whole battlefields in minutes.
Now the people they were gasing are doing evil around the world
@@sonnytopboy4975 the nazi regime was not the evil party in the conflict I’m afraid. History has been twisted.
@@patricktate4782 What kind of crack you on mate.
@@Jonathan-fb1kj it’s called doing your own research
Survived mustard gas, shrapnel, stormed two machine gun nests, a British soldier didn't shoot him because pitty/WWI ended and numerous assassination attempts. I wonder, did he ever buy a lottery ticket? Go to Las Vegas, make his way to the roulette tables, "all on bleck, unt you, server froline, bring me a schnapps! Ja, I vont it all on bleck, unt let it rrrride!"
Oh, and have I ever heard of Anthrax? Hell yes I have. They were kinda big in the late 80's. My favorite album of theirs is State of Europhia. Favorite song on that album is Finally.
2:39 You misspelled 'Salisbury'.
I used to live in Wiltshire. We cycled out to the area to camp out. Beautiful countryside lovely people
Salisbury I here the GRU holiday there ,apparently they love the steeple .
You still blame the Russians,
Yeah... I had no idea the British were developing nerve agents right next to Salisbury. The news conveniently left Porton Down out.
“A sufficiently terrified man can indeed outrun a chemical weapon.”
"as taboo as possible" 🤣, that was good 😅
'Stop the madness, stop playing God'. i love the British lol
I served in the Royal Navy as a Radio Operator in the 80s/90s. I distinctly remember receiving signals asking for "volunteers" to go to Porton Down. Even then we all knew that only a fool would put their name forward. Although I saw the signals, i never ONCE heard that information disseminated to the men actually asking them to volunteer.
Later on i was involved in the First Gulf War. I began to suffer from very strange symptoms upon my return home and cut a long story short became a campaigner as the finger was being firmly pointed at Nerve Agent Pre-treatment tablets and the various Anthrax and Plague Vaccines etc. I submitted an FOI request asking about the testing regime of the Nerve Agent Pretreatment tablets. The response stated that they were tested on fewer than 10 people in the 1960s. That was it. That FOI response has since dissappeared from the website. They then dished those out across UK, US, Canadian and Australian forces to hundreds of thousands of men and women. Only a fool woukd trust their government and that's the reason I refused ALL Covid vaccines. Once bitten twice shy. What a great decision that was
Brian May was a world-famous guitarist, known for his work with the band Queen. He was also a brilliant scientist, with a PhD in astrophysics. But there was one thing that Brian was not known for: his love of stuffed animals.
It all started when Brian was a child. He was given a stuffed animal dog named Humphrey for his birthday. Humphrey quickly became Brian's best friend. He took him everywhere with him, and they would often cuddle up together on the couch.
As Brian got older, he never lost his love of stuffed animals. He would often buy new ones, and he would even bring them on tour with him. One day, Brian was on tour in Japan when he saw a stuffed animal that he absolutely had to have. It was a giant, blue whale named Cushion.
Brian bought Cushion immediately, and he brought him back to his hotel room. Brian was so excited about his new friend that he couldn't sleep that night. He just lay in bed, holding Cushion close and talking to him.
The next morning, Brian woke up and realized that he had feelings for Cushion. He didn't know how it had happened, but he had fallen in love with a stuffed animal.
Brian was scared to admit his feelings to anyone, but he couldn't keep them a secret any longer. He went to his friend Roger Taylor and told him everything.
Roger was surprised, but he was also supportive. He told Brian that it was okay to love whoever he wanted, even if it was a stuffed animal.
Brian was relieved to hear Roger's words. He finally felt like he could be himself.
Brian and Cushion were inseparable from that day on. They went everywhere together, and they even slept in the same bed.
One day, Brian was playing a show with Queen when he started to feel sick. He went backstage and collapsed. The doctors diagnosed him with a rare disease, and they said that he didn't have much time left.
Brian was devastated. He didn't want to die without saying goodbye to Cushion.
Brian went home and called Cushion to his side. He told Cushion how much he loved him, and he thanked him for being his best friend.
Then, Brian kissed Cushion on the forehead.
Brian died a few days later, but he was at peace. He knew that he would always be with Cushion, even in death.
Germans with Sarin: "If we use this, the British will retaliate."
British with Anthrax: "This weapon is immoral."
Americans with nukes: *Excited squealing*
One of the interesting things I learned is that the major powers are side stepping the international laws of stockpiles and production of chemical weapons. Why? How? They have developed binary formulations so that there are no weapons being produced or stored, only this unusual artillery round or a different kind of airal bomb to to deliver these formulations. Those binary mixtures don't become weapons until mixed by the unusual delivery devices.
Can we get a "Today I found out" on Operation Paperclip? I keep hearing one liners about it and moving on.
I worked there throughout spring/summer ‘98... We amazingly had access to a lot of the camp, indoors and out... probably all I should tell you. Some mad shit goes on there.
Great video I live near portion and thought this was an amazingly detailed video. However altho I understand and agree with sponsors in videos Ronald maddison died, I didn't like that the subject of his death was used as suspense to promote a sponsor. Felt a bit wrong.
Also the rebel base in the force awakens is at porton. It was filmed there. Interesting side fact.
Simon is now on Britain’s Hitlist
Probably worth mentioning that porton down also has an incredibly large role in the destruction of chemical weapons from abroad and in england, most of the activity there nowadays seems to be getting rid of the weapons than creating them!
Didn't know that. That would have been a great addition. Thank you for sharing :)
@@geographicstravel Its also the site of a number of research companies - including one working on Medicinal use of Cannabis for serious diseases and conditions. Its not one building - its more of a complex of different labs and projects.
Now when you say dispose of - do you mean abandon in a local park?
They have a whole team that deal with old mustard gas munitions that get dug up and found. The BBC did a documentary on Porton explaining some of its roles.
Right, because the people doing the shady shit told you so, therefore it must be true. Sheep.
Symptoms of poisoning by organophosphate (a class of nerve agent to which sarin belongs): MUDDLES
Miosis (pinpoint pupil)
Urination
Diarrhea
Diaphoresis (excessive sweating)
Lacrimation (tear production)
Excitation (or Emesis [vomiting])
Salivation (drooling)
Went there a few times when based nearby, creepy place.
That novochock turning up in Salisbury right next to this place was extremely suspicious to me from the start. No coincidence
8:06, pure soul, I can almost forgive him for ordering use of Cyclon B in extermination camps.
i mean nobody said he is a pure soul :D
All of the British Military's personal protective equipment is designed, developed and tested at Porton Down. All of the protective equipment that was used by the police and personnel dealing with the Novichok attacks in Salisbury was developed at Porton Down, and Porton Down was the only place that was capable of dealing with all of the novichok contaminated items recovered. For that I am grateful. It is not something you want lingering around.
How dare they harm bunnies!
Its not just rabits . Horses , pigs , dogs etc