You never said word about the most important difference which is the Albert Durer is lightfast and the inktense is not this is so very important to artist that sell their work. I also think the Albert Durer on your test looks more professional and realistic. Hope this helps you in your art work especially if you are going to sell any artwork
It's nice to see them both used in a single piece, though you are comparing apples against oranges. That the Inktense lift a bit is because not all pigment got activated well enough. You have to use lighter layers if you don't want that. As for the colours matching the barrels, Faber Castell is the only company out there that has almost perfect matches in all their products. I don't have the Albrecht Durer yet, but I do have the wooden box of Inktense, an I really like to use them in colouring books for backgrounds. I do create a heavy layer and thus would have the same problem with the lifting, but I don't add extra layers, instead, I take colour from the pencils themselves on a brush to fix some areas, and I usually also use the Pitt Artist Brush Pens on top, which are also ink, and work perfect together.
Thank you for your insight on this! I didn't know Faber Castell was always this good with matching colors, that's interesting! I haven't tried using those in coloring books yet :)
I have to agree with Dieter here. This is more of an "apples to oranges" comparison. Derwent makes an actual watercolor pencil and this would have been a better comparison to the Albrecht Durers. I have a set of Inktense and found them much more labor intensive to use as compared to actual watercolor pencils. However, this is a valuable exercise on how ink-based color compares to watercolor.
@@bonnierosendale yes I see what you mean. These names always come up side by side like I said in the beginning, so I think it will still be valuable ( I see your point though and maybe an idea for a future video 🙂).
@@paintingandchocolate It is a valuable comparison for me, who doesn't have either of the sets. It's important to see the differences when searching for the right water-soluble pencils and, as you said, both of these sets are very popular.
I think this is only because she hasn't been on here as long as some others.Just wait! It will have super high ratings soon enough. Great channel! Great art work.
I have both sets. I love that the Albrecht durer has more colors, those i use a lot. Wet and dry. I also like that the numbers are the same as the polychromos. The inktense i use more for nature, animals, the colors in both sets are gorgeous.
I think they both have their place. Inktense is for when you want a more vibrant result. Albrecht Durer lends more subtlety and pin-point precision. Those who think one is more lightfast than the other should take an updated look at the lightfast ratings. I would use either for anything, but if I were selling with either media, I'd only sell prints. Even the prints, make sure and print in lightfast ink!
So happy to have found you. I have the 72 set of Inktense and the 120 set of Albrecht Durer. I have used the Albrecht for a coloring page that turned out quite nicely. I've dabbled with the Inktense but not much. I really want to learn to use both sets to their full potential. Quality art supplies are to expensive to sit in a drawer unused. I look forward to viewing more of your demos.
Loved the AD gives a more natural look which is what a I prefer. My daughter would love the Inktense as her work is more fantasy. So something for both of us thanks for the video.
Another difference is in lightfastness. Unlike the Albrecht Dürer pencils, the inktense pencils are not supposed to be lightfast, so for artists who want to sell their art, inktense is not a good choice, unless they just want to sell prints.
I was curious too about lightfastness and know at one point they were testing it, so I got on the Derwent site just now and FINALLY found the info after searching for 15 minutes. Here is what they say in their PDF download you can find under "expert tips" (or something similarly named): "Derwent uses the Blue Wool Scale (ISO 105) to evaluate lightfastness. 90% of colours within the Inktense Pencils and Inktense Blocks ranges are lightfast." Curiously, they do not tell us which 10% are NOT lightfast!!!! ;(
I have three dozens Faber Castell pencils that I use for urban sketching in combination with watercolor, gouache and ink. They do what they are bought for and they do it well. In the end it is the material you have at your hands and how you are used to it. From a certain quality level on upwards you can use any material. Which you get better along with is personal preference and experience.
I'm enjoying your videos! I agree with someone that said this is comparing apples to oranges. Inktense are not really considered a lightfast product by most artists and the Albrecht Durer are. I have both and enjoy them for different things. I wouldn't sell an original of an Inktense though, only prints, because it is way more likely to fade quicker. Inktense have some fun uses though and can even be used on fabric!
If you look at current Albrecht Durer lightfast ratings, I think you'll be surprised that they aren't as lightfast as you think. I wouldn't use either to sell an original piece, honestly.
Thank you for this video. I've been learning how to draw and paint, and after a year of playing with different mediums I am ready for pencils. I've been leaning toward derwent, but this sealed the deal. Thank you
Thanks for this comparison. Are you able to do this demo again with AD pencils and Caran D’arche? This would be comparing soles with apples and helpful for viewers, given the large price difference.
I'm glad you arrived at this decision, as it's one I arrived at myself after trying Inktense pencils. I just couldn't get the same vibrancy from the watercolour pencils I had used years longer. Now the 72 set of Inktense are my preferred set.
@@paintingandchocolate Faber Castell are the best watercolour pencils you can get. Bar None. 👍✔ I prefer the caran d'Ache crayons, as the colour is quick to go down and is extra creamy. You can't get the same precision with a crayon, but the ease of application and more opacity, is better in my opinion. A good way to distinguish the difference between the foreground and background, is to do the background in watercolour crayon, and the foreground (or area of interest) with Inktense. Using a large mop brush, to blend the crayon. It was great listening to your experience and personal preferences. As best process is all about experimentation with different materials. 🙂
I love your comparisons, so useful to see them both side by side. I love the depth of colour with the inktense but still like the FC. Just to note, if you leave the inktense to dry fully overnight, lifting out will not work as well as it really does dry permanently. Inktense also come as blocks and you get a much smoother texture with them. Also the white block is so opaque, it is a really useful tool.
Inktense are ink pencils and I'm fairly sure they are made with color dye vs pigment, as with watercolor pencils. Inktense are great but they are a different beast altogether, and I don't think they are archival which means your painting would be best protected from UV light. Displaying them could cause fading. :/ Although, it is kind of neat that Inktense are used for art with fabrics. :) I love how soft the watercolor pencils are. To me this means they're more versitle for watercolor paintings since I can make them as intense as the ink pencils, I would think, with layering and by using them as colored pencils. This might be a bit more work compared with Inktense but I think it's actually more versitle since it sounds like the range is wider, but that just might be in technique, idk. Plus, the watercolor pencils are archival and can be displayed so that's a plus.
Thank you for adding to the video with this insight, I agree the watercolor pencils are softer. It's a fascinating medium and still a lot to be uncovered about it, same for other types like inktense.
Derwent shoud realy consider improving the light resistence of the inktense line, since it's an unique media, to make it more professional. Or making a new, more resistent, ink line (like they did with the lightfast line of oil pencils), since it's become a very popular alternative media. This way, they would have one line for each group of artists. But that's just an idea
I think it's a great work even drawing a potrait but coloring it like this to compare watercolor pencils is astonishing! ❤👍👏👏👏 Love both pencils but prefer Inktense.
This was a really helpful comparison. I really has got me inspired to give portraits a try. I loved the colors you used. Can you share the colors for the Inktense? I would like to try a few out before I purchase a big set. I am a fan on Skillshare of yours and IG. Thank you!
Thank you Deb! I didn't note the exact colors I was using, if you want to try a set I would suggest a 24 count so you don't feel too limited? I hope that helps! I'm preparing another video for probably next week and I was hesitating between a portrait and a landscape, I might try the portrait!
Zu diesem Video gibt es ein Problem. Die Derwent Inktense sind keine Aquarellstifte, sondern Tusche Stifte. Daher kann man diese nicht mit anderen Aquarellstiften vergleichen, weil es Tusche ist. Im Prinzip ist der Vergleich wie mit Äpfel und Birnen. Die Aquarellstiften haben ganz andere Eigenschaften z. B. dass man diese mit Wasser wieder reaktivieren kann. Aber der Vorteil bei Derwent ist, dass das Kunstwerk am Ende "wasserfest" ist. Selbst wenn es nochmal feucht drüber geht, so bleibt die Tinte permament fest.
Ich habe Probleme mit dem Vermalen der Inktense-Stifte, ich sehe immer die Striche, ich habe schon alles mögliche versucht, aber noch nicht mit anderem Papier, vielleicht ist das coldpress nicht das richtige. Mit den Albrecht-Dürer-Stiften habe ich das Problem des Vermalens nicht und was hier besonders gut ist, ich kann jeden Stift einzeln kaufen. Danke für das Video 🙂
The inktense feels oversaturated (something movies and digital art have taught us to value), but the Durer, which seems far more realistic, needs an extra layer for the shadows. The inktense side could be said to lean toward hyperrealism. I am just beginning to use water with my Durer pencils. I love their soft texture and precision for drawing and am trying to get past fear of ruining a lovely drawing by adding water. How well they dissolve does depend on the paper - they don’t fully dissolve in cheap dollar store sketchbooks. I recently used intense pastels in an art collaboration. They were excellent to cover large areas (ink drawings on 1.5m x5-6m panels) fast. The intensity was great, but I felt there was a slight opacity to some of the colours. Something I did not know till that project was that ordinary soft pastels also work with water - my Rembrandt and Windsor and Newton (so sad they stopped making them) pastels were able to be used like watercolour pencils and even like watercolour pans. The pigment is more opaque than inktense and does not stay put for layering, but is fine for single layers.
Great painting/drawing. I feel like you didn't give the Albrecht Durer a good enough chance though. Perhaps it needed a bit of touchup and the eye lashes may work better with a sharper point. Don't get me wrong I have both sets.
I had a learning curve when I first started using Inktense pencils, but I love them. I have watercolor pencils as well but the intensity of the inktense is beautiful. I definitely can tell the difference between them and watercolor pencils when I use with them. They layer very nicely. Start off light then increase your color.
I loved your portrait, but they're not both watercolour pencils! One is ink, its more vibrant and you can layer forever if you stick to thin layers. The other is watercolour and gives a more subtle effect and lifts much easier. I mainly use my albercht durer for fine details on a larger watercolour painting. The inktense are better for mixed media because the colour can be harsh at times.
Thank you! Yes it's true, and yet I liked to see in one same piece how similar they are. I've been using the Inktense just like watercolor pencils because of it, just enjoy there more vibrant. Next, I'd like to try water soluble pencils by Caran d'Ache to see if those are that different.
Albrecht Durer gives me just as defined colors as you are getting with Inktense but I hold it more upright which gets in the grooves of the paper better.
Having both types in my collection, I agree with pretty much all of the findings. However, for large areas (base layer) with Inktense I use the blocks, with the option of using them exactly like watercolour if I choose (depends on paper type). For me, the big scoring point with Faber Castell is the colour match across the range of media, including colour pencil, Pitt brush pens, watercolour markers and Pitt pastel pencils/sticks.
the differences IMO are very subtle, I personally can not choose one over the other. However Like you I find my sketches done in inktense lifts up, a little disappointing.
Think that the lifting of the Inktense pencils may also have to do with the sizing of the paper, Derwent has special Inktense paper, maybe it is permanent on that. Heard that it can be helpful to wet the paper first, to remove some of the sizing, for the ink to be more staining. Apparently it also helps if you dissolve the pigment first in a palette, to increase the permanence, as that helps to dissolve the particles.
Wow what a beautiful artwork 😍, Inktense is my love, I even have albrect durer pencils so was eagerly waiting for the end as I started the video. Thank you so much for this wonderful video , I even like your other videos too ❤️. God bless and lots of love from India.
this is a beautiful comparison. as many extra mentioned, one is ink-based and the other is watercolor. but it is very helpful if you are a beginner and you are not sure what to try first. as I prefere strong colors I think I start with inktens bc of the stronger colors. and for me it is easyer to paint than with ink. thanks for your work and inspiring art. 🌸
Hola encantado de conocerte perdón por el idioma no manejo inglés te hablo de chile me encantan tus trabajos y la fuerza que tienes para enseñar quisiera saber que pincel usaste ahora que marca que número estoy enfocado más en pintura de paisajes plantas cosas así poseo por el momento algunos albertch durer y otros pencil stadler grafito de acuarela con color saludos
This was such an interesting video! Thanks for making it! I have both sets and love them both but for different things. I use Faber Castell albrecht durer and Caran D’Ache museum Aquarelle interchangeably together. They’re comparable and both excellent for art on paper/canvas. I like to use the Inktense on fabric. So far it has lasted quite a while with minimal fading once the color has set. They do need layers if you use them with water on paper. I definitely find the Albrecht Durers , the Caran D’Ache Museum Aquarelle and even Supracolor 2 soft to be higher quality for art. Just easier to use and feel and look better to my own eye and for how I use them. But Derwent Watercolor pencils are excellent. They also have some great water soluble Graphite and Graphatint pencils that are so much fun too. Derwent pencils are more niche but they are the absolute BEST once you find the niche that they fill. When I do adult coloring books I find myself using Inktense a lot, because they look cool with and work well with like the Arteza or Kuretake brush pens. They’re super vibrant and make for awesome backgrounds.
Loved this!!! Thanks! It's so beautiful.It's not clear from the video but do you wait for any time in between layering if you've wet the layer with water?
To be honest I'm hesitant doing portraits/long classes there. It seems to be more short project friendly there I find ! But somewhere else would be cool!
This was a great video. As a beginner and very new at Art, I was amazed not only on the colours but of your sketch work. What type of pencil did you use for the sketching? Thank you 🇨🇦
Great tutorial and comparison. You created unintentional tension by holding the jar of dirty water over your picture! 😅 I appreciate your comparing these brands. I have actually used Inktense as colored pencils without water and that creamy feel compared to regular colored pencil (dry!) is super. Almost like a pastel. Now... To get brave and apply water! 😂
Derwent also does regular watercolour pencils, so that’s not quite equal, apples and bananas. I think the inktense can be a bit granular and the Albert Dürre not so much, in fact very little. Maybe next time a test between true watercolours…..with caran d ache too. Actually, caran d ache has the supracolour and their regular watercolours.
Me parece que la gracia de los lápices acuarelables es que funcionen como acuarela, donde lo esencial es la transparencia. Por eso Inktense no es considerado un lápiz acuarelable por su fabricante, tiene alta saturación y es tinta. De aquí que no es justo compararlos ya que son distintas técnicas. Sería bueno saber las diferencias entre las líneas Museum Aquarelle y Albrecht Dürer; los lápices AD Magnus (30 colores) son todos lightfast. Saludos desde Chile 🇨🇱
Watch Helen Cambell when she uses Inktense, she uses a separate piece of paper to mark the pencils on then she uses a brush to get color from those marks instead of drawing directly on her paintings. No more pencil lines :D
@@paintingandchocolate Oh nice :D I prefer doing it that way myself as I can't stand the pencil marks either. Like you said it has it's charm but I prefer it without in my own stuff. That being said I rarely use my watercolor pencils. I've got the same exact sets you do lol I really should use them more often. Maybe I'll do my next video with Inktense.
If pencil marks are unwanted, then why not just use watercolour? I've never understood this criticism of water soluble pencils. Their charm, for me, is the ability to to have both interesting marks and some painted out areas.
Yes great point, I didn't go deep on these aspects for the long term, will make sure to in future videos, I just wanted to see how they looked visually speaking.
@@paintingandchocolate those are my FAVORITE brushes, I even use them in coloring books. I received them as a gift a while back and now I just can't use anything else 🤣. I feel like such a dilettante using such expensive, high quality brushes for coloring but hey, I'm using Albrecht Dürer pencils, why not?
Inktense would be better if it would work as claimed. I know I won't use it with my watercolor unless I'm ok with calling it mixed media because its water soluble ink made from dyes rather than pigments. Many in my set have lousy Lightfast ratings So I gave them to my daughter. Shes into ink art. Real watercolor pencils are acceptable to use with watercolor. I do like my Faber Castell & Caran D Ache watercolor pencils best for occasional touch ups on my watercolor paintings and the Lightfast rating are great. I think Id like playing with the Inktense pans for journaling over the pencils.
I like both of these pencils ok but they are not watercolors. Water soluble yes (until they dry). But I they do not lift or reactivate a key component of watercolors. Neither are Caran D'ache Museum Aquarelles. All three great pencils but none are watercolors.
I swear you sound like this totally young little girl then I see you are a beautiful woman. Your videos are awesome and so full of insite. Great video.
@@paintingandchocolate just giving anyone in Australia a ball park price as its alot higher than what is said in your content. Think their $4.30 ish a pencil depending on what art supplier you go to . I have seen them for more that $4.30 , currency conversions cant really be done when your not sure what currency your conveting from . I do like my inktences pencils though. They have a beautiful creamy texture and the pigment just blow me away compaired to the older style of Derwent water colour pencils and they felt kind of chalky.
Nice comparison and I like the artwork as well. 💜 Still would like to ask you to learn the correct pronunciation of Albrecht Dürer. Can't help but it goes on my nerves how wrong you pronounced the name all along the video with great confidence. It's not a critique it's just bugs me so much.
Thanks for letting me know. I understand it can feel disturbing, and at the same time I also try to relax about getting everything perfect otherwise but it would be so stressful , and still I'll go check the pronunciation out and hopefully I will remember next time I hope I do! lol)
What on earth? I’m a German speaker and there’s nothing shocking about her pronunciation of Albrecht Dürer ! She just didn’t do the umlaut. How do you think it’s meant to be pronounced? 😂
I'm gonna state something really unpopular here but I'm not a fan of Derwent products. They can be ridiculously expensive and far inferior imo to other leading brands. I know they're hugely popular on youtube but I personally don't enjoy them.
That’s totally fine you don't have to love them! And it's funny to read your comment today because I am finishing today's video about a product of theirs and it's also about how pricey it is!
@@paintingandchocolate hahah OMG talk about good timing! I look forward to seeing it. I really enjoy hour videos, I think you might be the only artist on TH-cam that has such a rich library of watercolor pencil videos and tutorials, and I really appreciate that being it one of my favorite mediums.
Thank you ! Yes, great timing 🙂 the title will make you smile probably ! And yes, gosh there was nothing about watercolor pencils when i was trying to learn.
@@paintingandchocolate absolutely, I couldn't find anything substancial on watercolor pencils till I came across your channel, so thank you so much for creating such great content! Looking forward to that video :D
En general, los insumos de arte son un lujo. Empecé pagando $230 por un lápiz Derwent hace 28 años, ahora cuesta $2500 cada uno. Lo peor es la inflación, a fines de marzo de este año compré un Luminance a $3850 y dos semanas después la tienda lo subió a $4990, la única que los trae a mi país. No hay bolsillo que aguante. Caran d'Ache sí es absurdamente caro
Watch this watercolor pencil playlist next to improve your skills : bit.ly/3UdxIC3
You never said word about the most important difference which is the Albert Durer is lightfast and the inktense is not this is so very important to artist that sell their work. I also think the Albert Durer on your test looks more professional and realistic. Hope this helps you in your art work especially if you are going to sell any artwork
It's nice to see them both used in a single piece, though you are comparing apples against oranges. That the Inktense lift a bit is because not all pigment got activated well enough. You have to use lighter layers if you don't want that. As for the colours matching the barrels, Faber Castell is the only company out there that has almost perfect matches in all their products. I don't have the Albrecht Durer yet, but I do have the wooden box of Inktense, an I really like to use them in colouring books for backgrounds. I do create a heavy layer and thus would have the same problem with the lifting, but I don't add extra layers, instead, I take colour from the pencils themselves on a brush to fix some areas, and I usually also use the Pitt Artist Brush Pens on top, which are also ink, and work perfect together.
Thank you for your insight on this! I didn't know Faber Castell was always this good with matching colors, that's interesting! I haven't tried using those in coloring books yet :)
I have to agree with Dieter here. This is more of an "apples to oranges" comparison. Derwent makes an actual watercolor pencil and this would have been a better comparison to the Albrecht Durers. I have a set of Inktense and found them much more labor intensive to use as compared to actual watercolor pencils.
However, this is a valuable exercise on how ink-based color compares to watercolor.
@@bonnierosendale yes I see what you mean. These names always come up side by side like I said in the beginning, so I think it will still be valuable ( I see your point though and maybe an idea for a future video 🙂).
@@paintingandchocolate It is a valuable comparison for me, who doesn't have either of the sets. It's important to see the differences when searching for the right water-soluble pencils and, as you said, both of these sets are very popular.
this channel is highly underrated, hopefully more people discovers this channel cuz it is very helpful and inspiring
Thank you for the boost of encouragement!
I think this is only because she hasn't been on here as long as some others.Just wait! It will have super high ratings soon enough. Great channel! Great art work.
@@renmuffett thank you 🤎
I have both sets. I love that the Albrecht durer has more colors, those i use a lot. Wet and dry. I also like that the numbers are the same as the polychromos. The inktense i use more for nature, animals, the colors in both sets are gorgeous.
I love them both too!
I think they both have their place. Inktense is for when you want a more vibrant result. Albrecht Durer lends more subtlety and pin-point precision. Those who think one is more lightfast than the other should take an updated look at the lightfast ratings. I would use either for anything, but if I were selling with either media, I'd only sell prints. Even the prints, make sure and print in lightfast ink!
I noticed that about lightfastness too! You would have to only use certain colors with the max rating to be safe as not all of them have it.
So happy to have found you. I have the 72 set of Inktense and the 120 set of Albrecht Durer. I have used the Albrecht for a coloring page that turned out quite nicely. I've dabbled with the Inktense but not much. I really want to learn to use both sets to their full potential. Quality art supplies are to expensive to sit in a drawer unused. I look forward to viewing more of your demos.
I can relate to not letting them sit in a drawer, I'm glad this will be useful to you!
Loved the AD gives a more natural look which is what a I prefer. My daughter would love the Inktense as her work is more fantasy. So something for both of us thanks for the video.
Yes for fantasy it would be great!
Another difference is in lightfastness. Unlike the Albrecht Dürer pencils, the inktense pencils are not supposed to be lightfast, so for artists who want to sell their art, inktense is not a good choice, unless they just want to sell prints.
True, thank you for pointing it out 🙏
@@paintingandchocolate Thank YOU for posting wonderful videos.
I was curious too about lightfastness and know at one point they were testing it, so I got on the Derwent site just now and FINALLY found the info after searching for 15 minutes. Here is what they say in their PDF download you can find under "expert tips" (or something similarly named):
"Derwent uses the Blue Wool Scale
(ISO 105) to evaluate lightfastness.
90% of colours within the Inktense
Pencils and Inktense Blocks ranges
are lightfast."
Curiously, they do not tell us which 10% are NOT lightfast!!!! ;(
@@paintingandchocolate Please see my reply above regarding Derwent's lightfastness results, pretty interesting :)
You have amazing skills! When I watch your videos, I'm amazed at what you can do! Very cool seeing and hearing your take on the two pencils!
Thank you Candy, this is encouraging!
Amazing video and amazing skills! You're a great artist! I do prefer the vibrancy of the Derwent as well!
Thank you 🙂
Your conclusion of Albrecht Durer for precision and blendability vs Inktense's intensity is helpful. Thank you and God bless you.
I have three dozens Faber Castell pencils that I use for urban sketching in combination with watercolor, gouache and ink. They do what they are bought for and they do it well. In the end it is the material you have at your hands and how you are used to it. From a certain quality level on upwards you can use any material. Which you get better along with is personal preference and experience.
Yes I agree 👍
I'm enjoying your videos! I agree with someone that said this is comparing apples to oranges. Inktense are not really considered a lightfast product by most artists and the Albrecht Durer are. I have both and enjoy them for different things. I wouldn't sell an original of an Inktense though, only prints, because it is way more likely to fade quicker. Inktense have some fun uses though and can even be used on fabric!
The blocks seem fun as well but I haven't tried them yet!
If you look at current Albrecht Durer lightfast ratings, I think you'll be surprised that they aren't as lightfast as you think. I wouldn't use either to sell an original piece, honestly.
@@ArtBrain yep - depends on the pigment of the pencil - a little over half of the 120 set are good - Most reds and purples not top for their set.
Thank you for this video. I've been learning how to draw and paint, and after a year of playing with different mediums I am ready for pencils. I've been leaning toward derwent, but this sealed the deal. Thank you
You're very welcome !
Thanks for this comparison. Are you able to do this demo again with AD pencils and Caran D’arche?
This would be comparing soles with apples and helpful for viewers, given the large price difference.
I'm glad you arrived at this decision, as it's one I arrived at myself after trying Inktense pencils. I just couldn't get the same vibrancy from the watercolour pencils I had used years longer. Now the 72 set of Inktense are my preferred set.
They are really good yes. I also love FC and caran d'Ache watercolor pencils.
@@paintingandchocolate Faber Castell are the best watercolour pencils you can get. Bar None. 👍✔ I prefer the caran d'Ache crayons, as the colour is quick to go down and is extra creamy. You can't get the same precision with a crayon, but the ease of application and more opacity, is better in my opinion.
A good way to distinguish the difference between the foreground and background, is to do the background in watercolour crayon, and the foreground (or area of interest) with Inktense. Using a large mop brush, to blend the crayon.
It was great listening to your experience and personal preferences. As best process is all about experimentation with different materials. 🙂
I agree it's fun to try new things and explore! Thank you very much for sharing your own findings too 🙌
I love your comparisons, so useful to see them both side by side. I love the depth of colour with the inktense but still like the FC. Just to note, if you leave the inktense to dry fully overnight, lifting out will not work as well as it really does dry permanently. Inktense also come as blocks and you get a much smoother texture with them. Also the white block is so opaque, it is a really useful tool.
Thank you Julie, super helpful! I thought of using the blocks but I love them for they are pencils, but still I'd like to try blocks!
I’ve always been a fan of Derwent pencils whether wax or water based. Now the ink base! Wow!
Thank you for the comparison 😘
You're welcome !
Inktense are ink pencils and I'm fairly sure they are made with color dye vs pigment, as with watercolor pencils. Inktense are great but they are a different beast altogether, and I don't think they are archival which means your painting would be best protected from UV light. Displaying them could cause fading. :/ Although, it is kind of neat that Inktense are used for art with fabrics. :)
I love how soft the watercolor pencils are. To me this means they're more versitle for watercolor paintings since I can make them as intense as the ink pencils, I would think, with layering and by using them as colored pencils. This might be a bit more work compared with Inktense but I think it's actually more versitle since it sounds like the range is wider, but that just might be in technique, idk. Plus, the watercolor pencils are archival and can be displayed so that's a plus.
Thank you for adding to the video with this insight, I agree the watercolor pencils are softer. It's a fascinating medium and still a lot to be uncovered about it, same for other types like inktense.
@@paintingandchocolate Thank you 😊 🙏 🥰
Derwent shoud realy consider improving the light resistence of the inktense line, since it's an unique media, to make it more professional. Or making a new, more resistent, ink line (like they did with the lightfast line of oil pencils), since it's become a very popular alternative media. This way, they would have one line for each group of artists. But that's just an idea
@@marimaf6561I totally agree that would be excellent if they did !
I think it's a great work even drawing a potrait but coloring it like this to compare watercolor pencils is astonishing! ❤👍👏👏👏 Love both pencils but prefer Inktense.
Thank you! It sure was an interesting experience 🙂 I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Fabulous comparison drawing. ii love both sides and both pencils. ii keep the shavings ... no wasting ink and watercolor.
Yes it's a good idea! I must admit I don't for those but for the water soluble oil pastels I do too.
This was a really helpful comparison. I really has got me inspired to give portraits a try. I loved the colors you used. Can you share the colors for the Inktense? I would like to try a few out before I purchase a big set. I am a fan on Skillshare of yours and IG. Thank you!
Thank you Deb! I didn't note the exact colors I was using, if you want to try a set I would suggest a 24 count so you don't feel too limited? I hope that helps! I'm preparing another video for probably next week and I was hesitating between a portrait and a landscape, I might try the portrait!
@@paintingandchocolate Thanks so much!
I've just purchased a Derwent Inktense 36 color set. I'm looking farward to test it on paper! Amazing art work 👍
Have fun !
Zu diesem Video gibt es ein Problem.
Die Derwent Inktense sind keine Aquarellstifte, sondern Tusche Stifte. Daher kann man diese nicht mit anderen Aquarellstiften vergleichen, weil es Tusche ist. Im Prinzip ist der Vergleich wie mit Äpfel und Birnen. Die Aquarellstiften haben ganz andere Eigenschaften z. B. dass man diese mit Wasser wieder reaktivieren kann. Aber der Vorteil bei Derwent ist, dass das Kunstwerk am Ende "wasserfest" ist. Selbst wenn es nochmal feucht drüber geht, so bleibt die Tinte permament fest.
Ich habe Probleme mit dem Vermalen der Inktense-Stifte, ich sehe immer die Striche, ich habe schon alles mögliche versucht, aber noch nicht mit anderem Papier, vielleicht ist das coldpress nicht das richtige. Mit den Albrecht-Dürer-Stiften habe ich das Problem des Vermalens nicht und was hier besonders gut ist, ich kann jeden Stift einzeln kaufen. Danke für das Video 🙂
What a great comparison! Thank you. Love your portrait! 😊
You're welcome 🙂
The inktense feels oversaturated (something movies and digital art have taught us to value), but the Durer, which seems far more realistic, needs an extra layer for the shadows. The inktense side could be said to lean toward hyperrealism.
I am just beginning to use water with my Durer pencils. I love their soft texture and precision for drawing and am trying to get past fear of ruining a lovely drawing by adding water. How well they dissolve does depend on the paper - they don’t fully dissolve in cheap dollar store sketchbooks.
I recently used intense pastels in an art collaboration. They were excellent to cover large areas (ink drawings on 1.5m x5-6m panels) fast. The intensity was great, but
I felt there was a slight opacity to some of the colours.
Something I did not know till that project was that ordinary soft pastels also work with water - my Rembrandt and Windsor and Newton (so sad they stopped making them) pastels were able to be used like watercolour pencils and even like watercolour pans. The pigment is more opaque than inktense and does not stay put for layering, but is fine for single layers.
Great painting/drawing. I feel like you didn't give the Albrecht Durer a good enough chance though. Perhaps it needed a bit of touchup and the eye lashes may work better with a sharper point. Don't get me wrong I have both sets.
Maybe yes, now I have more paintings behind me with both, will keep digging 🙂
Lovely. Thanks. Drool inducing
Derwent wins in my book. Warm wishes from Minnesota! ❤❤❤
I understand, they're so nice 🙂
I had a learning curve when I first started using Inktense pencils, but I love them. I have watercolor pencils as well but the intensity of the inktense is beautiful. I definitely can tell the difference between them and watercolor pencils when I use with them. They layer very nicely. Start off light then increase your color.
I love them too
I loved your portrait, but they're not both watercolour pencils! One is ink, its more vibrant and you can layer forever if you stick to thin layers. The other is watercolour and gives a more subtle effect and lifts much easier. I mainly use my albercht durer for fine details on a larger watercolour painting. The inktense are better for mixed media because the colour can be harsh at times.
Thank you! Yes it's true, and yet I liked to see in one same piece how similar they are. I've been using the Inktense just like watercolor pencils because of it, just enjoy there more vibrant. Next, I'd like to try water soluble pencils by Caran d'Ache to see if those are that different.
The Inktense weren’t fully activated the first time.
Albrecht Durer gives me just as defined colors as you are getting with Inktense but I hold it more upright which gets in the grooves of the paper better.
I noticed lately paper can affect the results a bit with this, thank you for sharing your tip!
Beautiful portrait
Thank you!
Having both types in my collection, I agree with pretty much all of the findings. However, for large areas (base layer) with Inktense I use the blocks, with the option of using them exactly like watercolour if I choose (depends on paper type). For me, the big scoring point with Faber Castell is the colour match across the range of media, including colour pencil, Pitt brush pens, watercolour markers and Pitt pastel pencils/sticks.
Yes, it's so nice they do that accross all their lines. I just purchased the blocks from Inktense finally !
the differences IMO are very subtle, I personally can not choose one over the other. However Like you I find my sketches done in inktense lifts up, a little disappointing.
I thought it strange too that they lift!
What a fantastic comparison!
Thank you Laura, I'm glad you found it helpful🙂
Think that the lifting of the Inktense pencils may also have to do with the sizing of the paper, Derwent has special Inktense paper, maybe it is permanent on that. Heard that it can be helpful to wet the paper first, to remove some of the sizing, for the ink to be more staining. Apparently it also helps if you dissolve the pigment first in a palette, to increase the permanence, as that helps to dissolve the particles.
That was very useful insight, thank you !
Wow what a beautiful artwork 😍, Inktense is my love, I even have albrect durer pencils so was eagerly waiting for the end as I started the video. Thank you so much for this wonderful video , I even like your other videos too ❤️. God bless and lots of love from India.
Thank you Ragini, I love the Inktense too 🙂
I love my inktense. Don’t have the other ones but the vibrancy sold me straight off. 😊
Same here!
this is a beautiful comparison. as many extra mentioned, one is ink-based and the other is watercolor. but it is very helpful if you are a beginner and you are not sure what to try first. as I prefere strong colors I think I start with inktens bc of the stronger colors. and for me it is easyer to paint than with ink.
thanks for your work and inspiring art. 🌸
I enjoy both very much, some differences but theyre subtle especially for those painting for fun or just practice 🙂
What about Caran d’ache or Holbein colored pencils?
You mean the watercolor pencils? I tried the caran d'ache in another video (the one with the snitch from harry potter).
Durer are better on HP or smoother surface. really nice to see them side by side!
Yes it was interesting 🙂
You should use a golden talon brush to have more luck getting rid of the Lina’s a stiffer brush is better with watercolor pencils
Thank you Joy, it makes sense, it's a nice tip 🙏
Taklon?
I just bought a Faber castell 60, have not tried yet. I have inktense 24. This video is useful.
Thank you! I bet you will enjoy them! Happy new year!
Like the softer colors of the Faber Castell best.
This is exactly what i need to see! Looking for a watercolor set to complete my superset. My pencils are self aware and produce their own gravity 😂
Glad this was helpful!
Hola encantado de conocerte perdón por el idioma no manejo inglés te hablo de chile me encantan tus trabajos y la fuerza que tienes para enseñar quisiera saber que pincel usaste ahora que marca que número estoy enfocado más en pintura de paisajes plantas cosas así poseo por el momento algunos albertch durer y otros pencil stadler grafito de acuarela con color saludos
Grazias. Utilizo mas amarillo, rojo y lapiz. Lo que quieres. A veces castano. Y siempre blanco.
Maybe use inkt3nse over Faber p3ncils when you need more saturated co,or?
I haven't tried but why not if it's only a second layer. More than that and it might be more difficult.
This was such an interesting video! Thanks for making it! I have both sets and love them both but for different things. I use Faber Castell albrecht durer and Caran D’Ache museum Aquarelle interchangeably together. They’re comparable and both excellent for art on paper/canvas. I like to use the Inktense on fabric. So far it has lasted quite a while with minimal fading once the color has set. They do need layers if you use them with water on paper. I definitely find the Albrecht Durers , the Caran D’Ache Museum Aquarelle and even Supracolor 2 soft to be higher quality for art. Just easier to use and feel and look better to my own eye and for how I use them. But Derwent Watercolor pencils are excellent. They also have some great water soluble Graphite and Graphatint pencils that are so much fun too. Derwent pencils are more niche but they are the absolute BEST once you find the niche that they fill. When I do adult coloring books I find myself using Inktense a lot, because they look cool with and work well with like the Arteza or Kuretake brush pens. They’re super vibrant and make for awesome backgrounds.
I love their products too 🙂 thank you for sharing!
both products are pigment based
Have inktense and Albert durer pencils bought are nice to use also have chocolate nice to eat.
Loved this!!! Thanks! It's so beautiful.It's not clear from the video but do you wait for any time in between layering if you've wet the layer with water?
I dry the sheet completely between layers and I can keep going. I use a heat gun most times so it's fast and I don't have to wait 🙂
What’s the chance you could do this in Inktense on skillshare. I love this portrait
To be honest I'm hesitant doing portraits/long classes there. It seems to be more short project friendly there I find ! But somewhere else would be cool!
This was a great video. As a beginner and very new at Art, I was amazed not only on the colours but of your sketch work. What type of pencil did you use for the sketching? Thank you 🇨🇦
The most basic HB pencil you could find, my next video will be my first about how to draw (coming on monday if all goes as normal).
Great tutorial and comparison. You created unintentional tension by holding the jar of dirty water over your picture! 😅 I appreciate your comparing these brands. I have actually used Inktense as colored pencils without water and that creamy feel compared to regular colored pencil (dry!) is super. Almost like a pastel.
Now... To get brave and apply water! 😂
I'm excited in advance for when you do add water 🤞
Derwent also does regular watercolour pencils, so that’s not quite equal, apples and bananas.
I think the inktense can be a bit granular and the Albert Dürre not so much, in fact very little. Maybe next time a test between true watercolours…..with caran d ache too. Actually, caran d ache has the supracolour and their regular watercolours.
thank you for the tutorial sis
You're welcome
I think the problem with the pencil lines showing too much could be fixed by using hot pressed or less textured paper.
Yes you're right! I should try coloring on hot press paper next!
Me parece que la gracia de los lápices acuarelables es que funcionen como acuarela, donde lo esencial es la transparencia. Por eso Inktense no es considerado un lápiz acuarelable por su fabricante, tiene alta saturación y es tinta. De aquí que no es justo compararlos ya que son distintas técnicas. Sería bueno saber las diferencias entre las líneas Museum Aquarelle y Albrecht Dürer; los lápices AD Magnus (30 colores) son todos lightfast. Saludos desde Chile 🇨🇱
Tengo une video con museum aquarelle vs FC Albrecht Dürer
What paintbrush are you using?
I use the Silverbrush black velvet sizes 4 and 8 🙂
I think my issue with intense is that it’s not lightfast
Yes I understand
You are savvy! ❤
I try 🙂
Watch Helen Cambell when she uses Inktense, she uses a separate piece of paper to mark the pencils on then she uses a brush to get color from those marks instead of drawing directly on her paintings. No more pencil lines :D
That's a great technique for sure, thank you for mentioning, I used it in other videos and in this one I wanted to compare both without.
@@paintingandchocolate Oh nice :D I prefer doing it that way myself as I can't stand the pencil marks either. Like you said it has it's charm but I prefer it without in my own stuff. That being said I rarely use my watercolor pencils. I've got the same exact sets you do lol I really should use them more often. Maybe I'll do my next video with Inktense.
@@paintingandchocolate By the way your style of art is absolutely gorgeous and I subbed lol just WOW.
If pencil marks are unwanted, then why not just use watercolour? I've never understood this criticism of water soluble pencils. Their charm, for me, is the ability to to have both interesting marks and some painted out areas.
Light fastness?
Yes great point, I didn't go deep on these aspects for the long term, will make sure to in future videos, I just wanted to see how they looked visually speaking.
What is the brush you are using?
The black one is the Silverbrush black velvet, I use sizes 4 and 8.
@@paintingandchocolate Thanks for replying. I checked them out...expensive but good quality. I think I'll put those on my wish list.
@@aMAZEingU yes they're pricey but generally widely used and appreciated in the art community.
@@paintingandchocolate those are my FAVORITE brushes, I even use them in coloring books. I received them as a gift a while back and now I just can't use anything else 🤣. I feel like such a dilettante using such expensive, high quality brushes for coloring but hey, I'm using Albrecht Dürer pencils, why not?
@@Pixie_Barrow2024 yes why not? And if you are enjoying it there is no harm as long as you’re fine with it!🙂
inktense ❤
Inktense would be better if it would work as claimed. I know I won't use it with my watercolor unless I'm ok with calling it mixed media because its water soluble ink made from dyes rather than pigments. Many in my set have lousy Lightfast ratings So I gave them to my daughter. Shes into ink art. Real watercolor pencils are acceptable to use with watercolor. I do like my Faber Castell & Caran D Ache watercolor pencils best for occasional touch ups on my watercolor paintings and the Lightfast rating are great. I think Id like playing with the Inktense pans for journaling over the pencils.
I see what you mean. I plan to do more digging on these. I love so far for just practicing and having fun.
Derrengado now has 100 Pencils. They added more lighter colors.
Yes, it's a nice set 🙂 i featured it recently.
I like both of these pencils ok but they are not watercolors. Water soluble yes (until they dry). But I they do not lift or reactivate a key component of watercolors. Neither are Caran D'ache Museum Aquarelles. All three great pencils but none are watercolors.
I swear you sound like this totally young little girl then I see you are a beautiful woman. Your videos are awesome and so full of insite. Great video.
Thank you so much !
In AUD the inktents pencils are over $4 each
Yes they're pricey here too.
@@paintingandchocolate just giving anyone in Australia a ball park price as its alot higher than what is said in your content.
Think their $4.30 ish a pencil depending on what art supplier you go to .
I have seen them for more that $4.30 , currency conversions cant really be done when your not sure what currency your conveting from .
I do like my inktences pencils though.
They have a beautiful creamy texture and the pigment just blow me away compaired to the older style of Derwent water colour pencils and they felt kind of chalky.
Nice comparison and I like the artwork as well. 💜 Still would like to ask you to learn the correct pronunciation of Albrecht Dürer. Can't help but it goes on my nerves how wrong you pronounced the name all along the video with great confidence. It's not a critique it's just bugs me so much.
Thanks for letting me know. I understand it can feel disturbing, and at the same time I also try to relax about getting everything perfect otherwise but it would be so stressful , and still I'll go check the pronunciation out and hopefully I will remember next time I hope I do! lol)
Alberto Durero y punto. Qué manía 😅
What on earth? I’m a German speaker and there’s nothing shocking about her pronunciation of Albrecht Dürer ! She just didn’t do the umlaut. How do you think it’s meant to be pronounced? 😂
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I'm gonna state something really unpopular here but I'm not a fan of Derwent products. They can be ridiculously expensive and far inferior imo to other leading brands. I know they're hugely popular on youtube but I personally don't enjoy them.
That’s totally fine you don't have to love them! And it's funny to read your comment today because I am finishing today's video about a product of theirs and it's also about how pricey it is!
@@paintingandchocolate hahah OMG talk about good timing! I look forward to seeing it. I really enjoy hour videos, I think you might be the only artist on TH-cam that has such a rich library of watercolor pencil videos and tutorials, and I really appreciate that being it one of my favorite mediums.
Thank you ! Yes, great timing 🙂 the title will make you smile probably ! And yes, gosh there was nothing about watercolor pencils when i was trying to learn.
@@paintingandchocolate absolutely, I couldn't find anything substancial on watercolor pencils till I came across your channel, so thank you so much for creating such great content! Looking forward to that video :D
En general, los insumos de arte son un lujo. Empecé pagando $230 por un lápiz Derwent hace 28 años, ahora cuesta $2500 cada uno. Lo peor es la inflación, a fines de marzo de este año compré un Luminance a $3850 y dos semanas después la tienda lo subió a $4990, la única que los trae a mi país. No hay bolsillo que aguante. Caran d'Ache sí es absurdamente caro