Ski Goggle Lens Comparison - Prizm v Sonar v Chromapop Lenses
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Choosing the right pair of goggles can make or break your day on the mountain. In this video I compare the lenses from three of the biggest brands in snowboarding and skiing... Oakley, Anon and Smith.
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GUYS... let's talk honestly... he doesn't know what is talking about :
basically the Smith Chromapop storm is 50% VLT and the Anon Sonar Blue is 46% VLT, when the oakley Prizm rose is 26% VLT. Which means that the oakley is a darker lens... so it doesn't"t mean the lens is poor. Simon just saw, less clear. It's just that. Sorry Simon, but talking about gear... Talk and compare truly and basically the features : in this case for the lenses : VLT ;-)
PS : or you can compare sonar blue and chroma pop storm with Oakley Hi Pink Iridium whit is 46% VLT.
Period.
Have a good season dude
Hey,
Thanks for watching and the points you make. I appreciate the feedback and will consider this in future product videos.
I actually agree which is why I said I’d be keen to try the HI Pink Iridium as mentioned. However I wouldn’t buy Oakley again personally due to my other issues.
My main gripe with Oakley (flight deck) is I had so much fogging. Not something I’ve experienced with the other two goggles.
In terms of the quality of Oakley lenses having been on tests and product training with Oakley I wouldn’t argue with the quality of the lenses. I just don’t think Prizm Rose is a good storm lens.
Hope you have a great season also. Fingers crossed we can all get on snow! 👊
@@Simonjburgess yep great to hear from you! Strange Nevers hard fogging issues with Oakleys (riding Line miner and fall line before I change my Anon M3) Fingers crossed for the season 🤞🏼 here in France the lockdown turns us crazy. Stay safe out there. 🤙🏼
@@franceiroca I’ll be in the Grand Massif so if you are nearby at any point let’s take a lap 👍 stay safe.
I agree on the lens comparison not being too fair for Oakley here, and like Simon says, Hi Pink would be in the ballpark of the other lenses here. I have just quickly tried on the Prizm Rose on a whiteout day, and wouldn't take that in place of Hi Pink. With Oakleys you can manage pretty much any situation with three lenses: Hi Pink, Torch and Sapphire (or even more darker lens for bluebird days). Or even pick between Torch/Sapphire, which suits you better.
But with modern lenses, perhaps you also should not strictly only look at the VLT, but it really depends also on how much contrast a given lense has for your eyes - which may depend on one's personal preference or eyes.
@@lassivaatamoinen5468 thanks for your comment! It’s good to hear your experience with Oakley lenses has been good. I’d love to try the Hi Pink this season so will try to get my hands on one. Have a good season 🤝
The only field comparison I could find between the three. I don't understand why anybody else is not talking about the experience with the three in this situation... Thanks Simon!
Thanks Charlie. I appreciate you watching… hopefully more coming this winter with another brand added to the mix
Finally a video comparing the three! Which one has the widest field of view?
Check my channel for recent videos where I’ve updated this video…. Field of view will depend on which goggle model you buy not just the lens type
Lumalense, prizm, and chromapop i found to be the best 3 lense types. Sonar isnt as good as Luma, i went back n fourth for a while on this. Where i snowboard, new york, we have the most spots in the US beleive it or not, and i MAXIMUM, need 1 extra lense, and thats if im going at night or something. The whole lense swap thing for goggles is a bit overrated a bit, because you dont really need to change out ur lenses as much as they make it seem like its something you need to do. What goes first on goggles is the foam, take care of the foam and ur goggles can least 5-10 years easy, i still have pairs from 2010s and 2000s that are fine, but the lense tech wasnt there yet so i dont rock most of them anymore, i wear DX3's now. I prefer a super wide field of view, and i like framed vs non frame goggles, even with framed goggles lenses are still very easy to change, and from my experience seal better. I used to want flight decks, untill i tried a pair, wasnt a fan. Nowadays you dont really need to drop 150-200 on goggles. You can grab things like dx3s wich are just as good if not better and are like 60-80 bucks, have good lense tech (luma), and u can replace the lenses if you ever need to, but like i said its not something i ever really needid to do alot, and i snowboard a good amount. Most of the time, ur gunna use 1 lense, you might want like 1 or 2 extra ones for like stormy weather but it sucks to snowboard like that anyway, same with at night. So alot of the time i end up buying extra lenses for sunny/slight cloudy conditions just to try them all out, rather than buy ones for the night, tbh at night no goggles is probably my ideal choice, or just clear.
Thanks for the video mate, really helpful
Aaron H no worries and thanks for watching. Should be realising more videos on those goggles soon
I have smith and anon and you can’t go wrong with either. Chromapops are great but I also love the zeiss
Charles Smith haha glad I’m not the only one with multiple pairs of goggles! You’ve got great taste 🙌
I found luma, chroma, and prizm to peform the best, its weird some of them are better at different vlt%'s. But i found lumalense to be my fav. I remember when they all came out, smith came out with chromapop in like 2012 ish or 2013, and then a few years later oakley came up with there own, dragon worked on luma for a while, and put theres out in 2016, and that one seems to be the best varient of this new tech ive dealt with so far. I think sonar came out in 2018, idk ive tried that one and it seems weird, i only tried 2 and they didnt seem that dope to me, idk. I use to dream of owning flight decks, and when i got them? i was unimpressed and now i rock 80 dollar DX3's, they seem to have a wider field of view, and i like the lense tech, i actually prefer the newer made non stamped cylindrical lenses over the spherical ones, maybe its caus im more used to dx3's tho.
Great video! Thank you for the review
Thanks for watching. Glad you found it useful!
Hey dude, great video.
I’ve got the smith squad XL right now. Been looking at the m4. Love the MFI system. can’t decide it’s it’s worth the upgrade look forward to your sunny weather review
Thanks Matt, appreciate the kind words. Honestly the M4 is my favourite goggle just because of the MFI. It's the one I pick to use most often and even in sunny weather the MFI keeps your face protected. It is a big investment but for me it represents great value. I will try to film the sunny lens video this week as I am up at Heavenly... when it uploads I am still unsure as I am still bringing out lots of my NZ trip videos.
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No worries, yeah I love the look of the MFI, my beard ends up full of ice after a few runs so I think it will be a good investment for that reason alone. 😂
If you could let me know what 2 lenses you think are best to get I’m gonna order myself the M4 :).
Cheers for the reply! Enjoy your trip 👍🏼
Matt Hill I really like the Dark Smoke and Silver on sunny days... if you are looking for a more versatile lens Green is great. Green works well in bright and cloudy conditions. Blue for whiteout low light days.
@@Simonjburgess Totally agree with you, Sonar Smoke for sunny days, green or bronze for in between, and sonar blue for low light. I used Oakleys and Smiths in the past but the M4s with the MFI is my go to. My squad XL and IOmag don't get much use anymore. Nice vid!
Thanks Steeze S nice to have my opinion backed up by other users of Sonar and MFI! Appreciate the view and the comment. Where are you watching from?
Apparently Sonar Blue’s not the best for whiteouts. Have you tried Infrared and Night? Heard they’re considerably better.
nomasprime I actually think the Sonar Blue is decent. I haven’t tried the night but the infrared is nice as well. I would still rate the Chromapop above Sonar in whiteout but not much in it for me
Smith have been the leader for ages now, my anon low light lens peeled after 15 days, nezt season ticks around they out of warranty, hard to buy again and trust, I'd go for smith next time
Smith do make incredible products. Honestly my go to goggle is the M4 as Anon have nailed the MFI, although I understand your concerns. I actually received my M4 as a replacement for faulty M3 goggles. Which Smith goggles do you wear?
@@Simonjburgess m2 but they not the zeiss lens. Maybe they went with that company as were having problems with original lens, plus with anon is they come with 2 lenses, if they fog up easy to take off and clean
Hi Simon, thanks for the review. In regards to fit, between the Anon and Smith, which one would have more room around the bridge of the nose?
Anon M4. There are larger smith Google’s … Smith 4D etc but I haven’t personally tried their fit
@@Simonjburgess Thanks! trying to decide between the M4's and the 4D mags, either being able to see if my pocket zippers are closed or breath through my nose... tough choice.
@@germandiazm 😂 hope you make the right one
You should also try Prizm Persimmon from Oakley. Great for very low light conditions
i'd definitely be keen to try this lens
It's new this season 👍
Persimmon doesn't pop that much as prizm
Hi Pink does have this persimmon-ish coloring, but with the pink base-tint which Oakley Prizm lenses have.
Great video! Any experience with Anon M2 + Sonar Infrared lens (57% VLT)?
Never used the M2... smaller goggle than the M4 with less magnets. Think originally some people had issues with the magnets not keeping the lenses in... more magnets on the M3 and M4 and never had an issue.
Sadly, no experience with Sonar infrared although have purchased as now on sale!! Can only see it being better than Sonar Blue in whiteouts as higher VLT , I’ll report back.
Great video! I plan on using goggles for fat biking. Was looking at the Smiths...
Thanks for watching. You wont go wrong with a pair of Smiths!
I don't understand why you didn't use the same color tint as the other two lenses with the Prizm lenses? It would have given us a much better comparison.
Sorry Gary. I used what I had available. All three lenses are listed for cloudy weather but I totally get that it wasn’t the best comparison on reflection.
@@Simonjburgess For sure, the review was still helpful. Thanks
@@gary_neilson1896 glad it helped. Are you looking at any goggles in particular?
@@Simonjburgess Trying to decide between the Flight Deck vs 4d Mag vs I/O Mag
@@gary_neilson1896 just my opinion but I’d go for the Smiths. For the price, spare lens included etc. Never had issues with fogging (can’t say the same for the FD)
Have you compared the lenses for sunny conditions?
Eddie not made the video yet.... but I have used the Sonar, Chromapop and Prizm sunshine lenses... planning to make the video on my trip to Heavenly in two weeks...
thanks!
You are welcome
@@Simonjburgess any update from your side which technolory you prefer for low light?
@@mkdmitry chroma pop has been great. But have preferred the Anon goggles so I wear my Smiths less. Recently bought some Spy’s so looking forward to testing Happy Lens Soon
Smith is storm Blue or storm yellow ?
prodish it’s Chromapop Storm Rose Flash
Have you tried the infrared
Yes, but only for a day.. I just purchased infrared and infrared blue so will make some videos on them next season.
Hi, what board is that?
ycnexu hey thanks for watching. The board is the Salomon super 8
I don't know why Oakley made Rose honestly. Its VLT is almost the same as the "sunny" Torch/Sapphire/Jade, but it doesn't even remotely look as nice. I own both Rose and Hi Pink Iridium, and there's DRASTIC difference in visibility in these conditions. It's very hard to find a use case for the Rose.
Sadly I think that’s the experience that most Oakley users have found with Rose... it’s a bit Meh. I’ve sold mine now as I never justified using them. I really need to get to test a Hi Pink and that’s the lens most people are recommending for Oakley in low light.
U see the chromapop lenses bleu with slighly purple here why is the best the maui jim lenses blue hawaii best contrast compare of all other maui jim lenses
Sapphire prizm lense is the best lenses of all oakley Prizm and your oakley i am agree with u but i still think your comparasion not fair cuz your prizm lenses not mirror and the color of the mirror make a big different conserne the color and the number one and the secondes have both blue mirror for a fair comparaison you mind compare 3 goggle with blue mirror each.
You are right... the Oakley isn't a fair comparison to the other goggles in this video. Should have considered the mirror. Thanks for the feedback.
totally aligns with my experiences. I’ve used flighdeck xl for last 4 seasons and thought it was the best one even if it fogged up every time when it’s just drizzling and that I broke literally two lens either when mounting then or transporting. I blamed it all on myself. Until last season I decided to go with smith mag. It blew my mind. Changing lens has never been so easy, I can literally change the lens with my mittens on while it was simply a nightmare with Oakley even indoor with bare hands.
Tbh, Oakley is just trash. It builds up fog in between the two layers of lens and once it does that, your day is basically ruined. You will have to go find a heater, put your goggle near it and wait for 1 hour at least to get the water out. Oakley us just so poorly designed that the seal between layers allows water in easily and don’t let them go away.
Avoid Oakley, do yourself a favor and get a Smith.
Sucks that lots of people have had issues with their Oakley lenses.... I know people that swear by them but for me, Smith lenses outshine them.
Have you noticed a difference in light between ski resorts in Asia and Europe? I wonder if a particular goggle lens, like the Chromapop Storm Rose, might perform differently in the Austrian Alps than the American Rockies.
aloebeara thanks for the question... and it’s a really interesting thought. I have not snowboarded in Europe since using chromapop but I will be in France then Italy around Xmas this year.... I will see if I notice a difference then let you know
Why no lumalens from Dragon? :(
Good question and i'd love to test the lumalens... do you use Dragon?
Same with SPY Happy Lens...thats missing as well. I personally own/owned all these goggles. I don't own SPY or Dragon but if I can get my hands on some I will make a video.
Hi pink
I'd like to try Hi Pink... would you recommend?
@@Simonjburgess I totally would recommend
Taylor Stroyek that’s good to know. Will try and get a pair to compare... I’m pretty sold on the magnetic lens change and facemask with Anon right now... but if there is a better lens then that’s definitely worth exploring
@@Simonjburgess loom at the Oakley airbrake not magnetic but a step in the right direction
Taylor Stroyek I’ve actually used airbrakes before, yes easier than traditional but still more faff then needed... where are you skiing this winter?
They all look the same to me.. if you are going to demonstrate the difference in quality of optics, you need to put the lens of each onto the camera lens to show us.. this was useless.. you might as well talked about cars, at least we know the impact of gas prices because we have all experienced the rise.. We do not have experience looking thru these different lenses.. Next time, may i suggest putting the chromapop or Zeiss or Prizm on the camera so we experience what you're experiencing... Other wise it is just a snowboarder talking about visibility on a bad day on the mountain.. Thanks
Thanks for the feedback Rob. I was trying to share my perspective but I completely take your feedback on board.
I dont think putting them through camera lens would help much because the technology in the ski lenses is focusing on changing the perception of human eyes. The cameras cannot imitate that totally.