"Somebody stop that man! He's throwing bricks at full speed into peoples heads!" "I wish we could arrest him ma'am, but it's technically not against the law."
@@bananian at one point her argument was that throwing stuff isn't against the law and you can't be charged for it. Then she started reading the Google definition of assault or something instead of going to the Australian constitution and finding out if they think it's illegal. Surprise, it is. Side note, the law doesn't make a distinction between items thrown. Only intent.
That's the crux of Steven's argument though, that throwing cardboard box is considered battery or assault therefore he was fair to slap the pregnant chick. Then Destiny turns around and claims that the slap was the least forceful action he could have taken or he couldn't think rationally because it was a heated gamer moment.
@@Alan-wj5zc Because she threw more items than just the box and his argument is that the woman is the one starting the domestic abuse, which should put most of the blame on the woman, but all these sjws think the woman has done nothing wrong based on gender because if the genders were reversed, the same excuses (being hormonal, stressed) would not apply if it was a male abusing a female. Not once does he say what the guy did is acceptable, the point is a slap is nowhere near the severity of a punch, which he easily could have done instead, but these people who have never taken a punch in their lives think a slap can hospitalise a person. the double standards are real. same with the items being thrown - they're making excuses about how they only saw one item (the box) being thrown, so destiny makes the same argument to show how stupid it is - no one saw her being hit, so does that mean it didn't happen? slapping someone obviously isn't a good thing to do, and he isn't excusing it, his point was in terms of physical action it's the least damaging one, but hassan's right, the guy clearly should have just curled into a ball and let the woman abuse him and break his stuff. and he makes the argument that destiny's argument about role reversal is invalid because that isn't the current situation which is bullshit, because why should the domestic abuse in this case be excused because of the abuser's gender?
Oh God. I hated this shit. It was happening at like 3 AM, and I couldn't turn away. The most annoying thing was Hassan, imho. He kept using the legal system as an argument, and no one called him out for ignoring the fact that there is obvious bias in these cases. His entire platform is also pretty far left, which is extremely anti cop. The women were bad, but they weren't supposed to be political figures
@@azazelop5223 Train is the cooker, the participants are the ingredients and the podcast is the stove, he just need to sit back and laugh while the world burns.
2:05:20 she is saying "We were having a really nice discussion" "you are being rude" while literally she is the one interrupting/talking over Destiny multiple times when he starts speaking. By the way I don't remember her adding any meaningful to the discussion for an entire hour leading up to Destiny arriving.
TheAwesomeness1123 because she was saying some stupid shit. And the stupid shit that she said was just false most of the time. “If you throw something it’s just rude and is not battery” it’s idiotic bullshit.
@@theewanger3786 Naw dude she still thinks she's in the right. A few days after the stream some over rustle logs of Miss Sleepie popped up on Destiny's subreddit. She basically said that Destiny is an abuse apologist because Destiny was abused in the past and the fact that she thinks he's like a violent person or something.
@@ProfessorBalth Thats sooooo sad. It goes to show that most humans rather give in in the delusion rather than changing their views because that would mean they would have to admit that they were wrong.
Hasan:"He could've done more things to deescalate the situation" Yeah he did.. Multiple times he said stop and leave me alone then she escalated it so he responded
This guy from what I’ve seen and heard is a huge white knight who always tries to defend these twitch girls , he’s trying to get some cheeks at a convention lol
@@slime569 Its not about being a white knight its about thinking theres a better solution than slapping his *pregnant* wife, on *stream* , in front of their *children* . We can all agree she's an abuser, but what he did just made things worse.
he shouted stop like a fucking child. that doesn't count as deescalation. just because you're also a fucking manchild with the interpersonal discipline of a toddler doesn't mean that's acceptable behavior
@@linuscontinental2223 So if you were in that situation we could expect you to be calm and totally rational? Sure he shouldnt have hit her however dont act like she wasnt the aggressor in this situation and dont act like it was totally ok what she was doing. Our society has double standards, its ok for a women to abuse a guy but the moment a guy does anything he is a total piece of shit. If you are truly for equality you must recognize this cognitive bias.
@joe smith he had an AVO against her mate. She kept on saying hes the agressor for an entire hour and defended a preexisting AVO with "love is tricky" ?! How fucking biased can you be???
@Shawn Brink so your point being what exactly? That having an AVO has no weight in the evaluation of the fight in question becaus they might have amazing sex? What does that have to do with anything?!
3:10:15 Sleepie: “How do you it wasn’t from him accidentally hitting his desk or something from sitting down?” Yea, he flinched at the sound of him ‘accidentally kicking’ his own desk. Great job, Sleepie, you’ve solved the mystery. Case closed.
@@FiR3Fr3aKs Not as stupid though considering the insane lengths some females would be willing to go to frame their man in a fit of rage, to gain something, or being hormonal.
@@GreyKnight7777 What your saying is extreemly common nonsense, when someone has no argument they resort to insults or complaining about the meathod in which the conversation is occuring rather that the actual argument. Baisically, ur dumb and have no way to prove that your argument is right so your trying to prove that he is wrong through an unrelated meathod.
It blows my mind that Hasan would appeal to the authority of the cops in this domestic abuse situation considering the positions he's been holding throughout this BLM era
Destiny was so rude and aggressive in this discussion, I am absolutely disgusted. How dare he speak that way to Miss Sleepie (or as I know her, Belissa. only long time fans know that). I have been a tier 3 sub for over two years now and she has thanked me (AND said my name) each time I resubbed. She is the sweetest girl I have ever known and I will not let Destiny live this down. If she says throwing stuff isn't assault, then that is fact. I am sick of these testosterone filled incels mansplaining the law to women. Now if you'll excuse me, I am going back to moderating her chat from sickos like Destiny. Peace
The fact that from what you can clearly see in the deadmoth video is her throwing objects at him one of which you can see is folded cardboard and you cannot see him physically touch her. But from what everyone says is they can hear what sounds like a slap but you cannot see it. So destiny's point is there is a clear double standard because nobody can see what happens off camera besides what we can see on camera so saying he slapped her because it sounds like it than dismissing all the possible objects being thrown as a single piece of cardboard because what we saw is clear proof of a selective double standard. You see more evidence of her trying to break his capital, threatening him with violence and assaulting him by throwing objects than us assuming he slapped her . So I get what destiny is saying there is a clear double standard if the roles were switched everyone's thoughts on the video would clearly be more in favor of the evidence it shows than what we assume to interpret from it... I clearly can tell I do not like this Hasan guy...
I watched the deadmoth video multiple times now and all i can see is a cardboard thrown. And lets be real here, a thrown cardboard is not gonna hurt anyone. Anything else are assumptions. Like the flinching could also come from him pushing her away. It could also be from fending of thrown items but we dont see that. I really try to get into destiny points, since he usually is very smart about his reasoning and on the meta level i do agree that domestic abuse is equally bad for both genders. But in this particular video his arguments that justify the mans behaviour could easily be turned around to justify the womans behaviour, because all the reasoning is based on assumptions (if we draw the line to only things we can actually see in the video, which he did). For me the synchronous reaction of the childs with the punch sound and her scream make it pretty obvious for me that he hit her, but i recognize that this is an assumption that could be false. But same goes for the throwing assumptions besides the cardboard. His arguing is not as waterproof as usual and it feels like he is pretty biased here because of his own experiences. Also with the reverse role question, im actually not to sure if we would side with the girl. Im sure that the reaction would be way less severe, since we tend to be way more aware about domestic abuse towards woman than man, but imagine the woman sitting there and the guy crying like the woman. Instead of pregnancy he tells the stream that he has depression and then the slap sound comes, followed later by the punch sound and the man crying like the woman does. I would feel pretty sorry for the guy in that case and definitely not side with the woman, but maybe thats just me. Ultimately we lack too much information and its anyway up to the justice system to judge over that case.
@@KelScythe my point is that destiny in this debate gives his own assumption a superior likelihood over the other positions assumptions. Because we can see the cardboard and the rest is "just" audio. So we either give both sides assumptions the same scrutiny or none. I agree that the situation suggests that she initiated the fight and that objects were thrown. But he could fend of the objects thrown with one hand and without standing up. This suggests that the other objects were equally threatining as a cardboard. For me its pretty safe to assume with the reaction of the children in mind that the second punch was not a soft one and definitely not appropiate for the situation. Which is what the main disagreement is about. I highly doubt there is anyone disagreeing that we are more aware of female domestic abuse than of males. And thats why i have no interest arguing if the police would act the same with genders reversed, since i already believe they would act different (in the womans favor). To what degree i cant say and you dont either, they have video evidence after all so it might not be that black and white. But most of the discussion is about if the mans reaction in the context of the video is justifiable or in destinies words morally neutral.
@@nholanl1952 Ok first off a thrown piece of cardboard can hurt someone quite easily. Although it might be unlikely that it will hurt someone, it can still do it by getting hit by the corner of the cardboard. Second, if you are willing to disregard the rest of the thrown items because you didnt see them you would have to apply the same logic to the slap. You did not see the slap therefore you cannot claim that it happened. You are wrong on so many levels. He asked the woman to stop multiple times (literally like 40 times in the entire video) raised his voice to signify that she should stop.
2:45:30 "I simply asked him if he did..." 2:44:15 "Did she hit you? ... Yeah then you should've reported that." That was her not simply asking him if he got hit and insinuating he's invalid for just not reporting it.
I love how Destiny destroys people on the right AND left. I consider myself on the left, but Christ people have been so ridiculous about this kind of situation. He has FACTS all across the board, no matter what spectrum you’re on.
@@@Alan-wj5zc - "despite entirely not mentioning how the other person ended up looking after that fight" : The police called her in for question and didn't see any bruises on her, what are you talking about? & Destiny did state that in the podcast too? Are you by any chance conveniently has selective memory? - "he's incredibly biased because he was a victim of a similar circumstance": This is not a valid argument, since he get abused doesn't mean he's 100% bias, you have to provide the EVIDENCE to his bias. Not all abused men are bias regarding domestic abuse - "entirely based on speculation": This is not facts, not "speculation" alone, this is "safe assumption" ( that means 99% of the times it's going to be right). Allow me to elaborate: When you hear sound of his stuff breaking from the back, you surely knows what did happen (hint: It's not just cardboard being broken & thrown around or something magically get blown by the wind if you're into that kinda stuff). :) - "We all saw what he did when he was getting thrown cardboard": debunked by point made above & objects can have sentimental value to a person too. Just friendly reminder buddy, you're not so rational as you thought you might be.
@@lemonhaze1506 So first of all you completely misunderstood me. I was talking about when Destiny was mentioning the photo the guy took of him having scratch marks. Destiny brought this up and completely failed to mention how the other person could have been left out from that fight. Is this not evidence of bias? I never said all men are biased about domestic abuse if they were victims of it, don't strawman me. I said Destiny is clearly biased because of all the false equivalencies he keeps referring to like the analogy with rape, where the rape victim is never questioned even though this domestic abuse situation is not as black and white as literal rape. You can't really be serious about it being okay to make these assumptions. Destiny himself questions the ethics and morality of breaking news because most of the time the information can be wrong, yet he is okay with making "educated guesses" with no real information? Just rewatched the video. Sounds like a ball was thrown followed by the cardboard that he swung back. He got up, sat back down, got up and slapped her. Audible slap, she starts crying the guy clearly slapped her because of his reaction and saying he will say sorry. Using Destiny's logic, I think getting slapped earns getting your shit fucked with. Which is what happened. Try watching the video yourself and tell me you aren't regurgitating his memes. I'm a fan of destiny as much as the next guy but get your own fucking talking points.
@@Alan-wj5zc I'll go through your response point by point buddy: 1. Destiny mentioning of the photo is NOT to brought up what could have happened to the guy, in which case he'll have to mention what could have happened to the girl as well to remain unbiased. It's just the evidence of what did happen: The guy has signs of being abused physically & the girl did not. Simple as that. 2. I'm not strawmanning you, I'm explaining why that's not an argument but just a statement on your part. Sure people has the tendency to be disgusted over rape and such, but a strong analogy is a strong analogy; you can't scratch that off if it provides enough relevant characteristic regarding the mentioned situation. 3. It is okay to make safe assumptions given enough information & to use that as a base for argument. Yes I know it's not hardcore facts, but if you're too afraid to use safe assumptions or discard them entirely, you won't be able to progress in life. Most of our discoveries & decision-making in life, after all, is base off of safe assumptions. And furthermore, if provided your input on the situation, nobody in the podcast has any base for any argument at all in the first place. 4. "getting slapped earns getting your shit fucked with": you're misrepresenting the real situation here, INITIATE these kind of stuff & breaking someone else's belongings is what got the girl shit.
@@lemonhaze1506 I'm not here to argue too long, but holy shit. 1. What? Destiny 100% brought up those photos to shine a light on the woman for being an abusive partner which is incredibly one sided and disingenuous. I don't see how you can claim the girl did not have signs of also being a victim of domestic abuse when we have the video and the information that she was released after her testimony and the guy was not. Once again you are making assumptions without all the information. 2. By definition you were strawmanning me! You were putting words in my mouth I never said. What does the disgusting nature of rape have to do with this? Destiny was making a bad analogy. Simple as that. Rape is black and white compared to this domestic abuse situation. You have a pregnant wife throwing shit at her husband, then you have a husband who slapped the pregnant wife. Both parties were violent, one more than the other (the man). In a rape situation you only have the attacker and the victim. 3. The thing is Destiny is not! He was criticizing Hasan over him taking police reports and tips and reporting on their investigation into the death of a black girl on TYT. Destiny said he doesn't like the ethics of breaking news because the information is unreliable, yet he's willing to make assumptions here? Strange how you did not counter this point. 4. I agree Destiny's logic is silly. Provoking someone doesn't give them the right to put their hands on them. Once again, she did not break anything until she got slapped, that is when she started pushing back more... almost like the pimp slap didn't resolve the situation and only worked to escalate it.
exactly who gives a fuck about the twitch ban, it's literally tangential to the REAL issue which is the discussion around whether what he did was justified or not. the moral discussion is 10x more interesting than some speculations about how twitch should conduct themselves regarding bans
They can't help themselves. They all make their living streaming in the same website so they are all much more interested in the ban then anything else but, they do understand that's not what the audience cares about.
So what did we learn today? Women can act irrationally when they are hormonal and their behavior is excused if that's the case. Throwing stuff at someone's face is not battery. The guy diffidently hit the woman off-camera but all the ducking, camera shaking and noises of things falling or being broken had nothing to do with the woman. He's probably cause of all of that. Screaming/telling people to stop is not an attempt to deescalate. Abuse victims shouldn't talk about abuse situations of other people. And there's almost 2 more hours to go...
Love how she IMMEDIATELY goes from admitting she assumed it was the guy throwing things in the background (when she just admitted that she saw the girl throwing other things), to accusing Steven of assuming that she threw more than one thing, and claiming that she's just going off what the video shows, and not assuming things. Huh?!
@@Zandeyninja Being 10-15 years younger than half of them provides a vastly different perspective. That's the value. But he doesn't actually add much in this particular podcast. I don't think he had much to say about any of the topics.
@@ConnorLipke he most likely just wants to stay away from this. everything in his life is going great for him; no need to lose fans over choosing a side here when both sides are being debated already by appropriately knowledgeable adults.
This sorry excuse of an intellectual human female trying to defend the definition of battery instantly shows how qualified she is to even have an opinion on this topic.
It is, I don't see why Trainwrecks tried to claim it's a chill and easy going. When last time he called Trihex an asshole. One of the nicests guy on Twitch just because he takes forever to get to his point or accidentally interrupts.
@@midir4000 yeah i think i meant contrarian. I believe he firmly believes his positions but he relishes when his positions contradict those held by others. I wasn't trying to imply he contradicts himself. I know that his whole thing is that he wants his beliefs on a whole to be consistent.
I like Destiny but he did ask if she was on her period. Which was inappropriate and targeted at her only because she is a woman. Destiny even admitted later on that he wouldn't do that to a Male streamer
Ja Ra He did that to demonstrate that blaming behaviour on hormones is reprehensible. She said that it was okay (essentially) for the women to throw things at the man because she was hormonal.
2:15:01 _"You're blurring the lines between law and what isn't the law."_ So, in the context of Australia and its laws: Section 20 of the Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935 (SA) outlines the offence of Assault. Assault occurs if there is any intentional and unwanted physical force used against a victim [s 20(1)(a)]. For example, punching, hitting or kicking a person. The force used can be direct or indirect. For example, if because of an assault, a person drops a child they were carrying, that is also an assault on the child - even though the child was not directly assaulted. Assault also occurs if there is any intentional and unwanted direct or indirect contact with another person, however slight the contact may be, if the person committing the assault knew that the victim might reasonably object to the contact [s 20(1)(b)]. For example, it could be throwing a newspaper at someone, knowing the person might object to that. *Assault can occur even without physical contact.* If a threat is made to apply force and the victim reasonably believes that the person can carry out the threat or there is a real possibility that they will [s 20(1)(c)]. For example, if a person points a gun at someone or produces a knife. An assault can also occur when a person accosts (approaches and confronts aggressively) or impedes (blocks the way of) another in a threatening manner [s 20(1)(e)]. _What is not considered assault_ A distinction is made for behaviour that falls within the limits of what would be accepted as normal social interaction or community interaction. Such behaviour does not constitute assault. Examples of such conduct include acts such as patting the shoulder of another person to attract their attention, or pushing between others in order to get out of a crowded bus. Although these acts involve intentional touching of another without their consent, provided they are committed in a non-hostile and inoffensive manner, they do not constitute assault. In addition, any conduct that is justified or excused by law is not an assault. *Maximum penalty * >Basic offence: two years imprisonment >Aggravated offence: three years imprisonment >Aggravated offence by use of, or threatened use of, an offence weapon: four years imprisonment *Source:* lawhandbook.sa.gov.au/ch12s05s01s01.php *Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935:* www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/A/CRIMINAL%20LAW%20CONSOLIDATION%20ACT%201935.aspx
I love how many times Hasan deferred to the righteous decision making abilities of the police in this. It would be great to see him to try keep his stance here post-George Floyd.
@@Mobasity yep, the guy reacted wrong but the ultimate fault is 100% on the woman in the case, its hilarious how the bunny hoodie lady acts like woman did nothing :D
that literally makes zero sense. u say the dudes actions are wrong and then blame his actions on the female 100%? destiny is a pussy beta male who doesn't seem to understand like every other libtard that woman and men are different and should be treated differently based on the context of the situation. if my pregnant wife is throwing shit at me cus shes frustrated that im a deadbeat low iq beta male father who prioritizes video games over his family and responsibilities ....oh wait that would never happen. like yea the girl escalated the situation but that's really not all that surprising considering shes a woman with kids and the father is a fucking loser. and it's definitely no excuse to lose control and beat her lmao are u kidding?
@@andrewb8655 Everything about your statement probably would make Destiny kill himself on the spot. The epitome of irrational holy shit. I don't even know where to start XD The fact that you make random ass assumptions over what kind of person the father is? The fact that you make this assumption that he beat the fuck out of her? The fact that you have these expectations for what men should/should not do with no reasonable explanation why???
My favorite was when she said "something heavy" after estfan said that cardboard counts as a weapon. "Your honor the object my client used to attack his wife is 50 milligrams under the legal weight requirement for what constitutes a weapon, therefore he can't be guilty of assault with a weapon."
@mayrana2 Well we can claim that the "white kid" did physically assault her because everyone and their grandmothers could hear the slap. I just don't see how Destiny can claim the dude had de-escalated the situation by escalating with stronger violence. I also don't see how its invalid to suggest the cops had more information than us since they were the ones that were on scene after we all saw what went down.
@@Alan-wj5zc The wamen did assault him in the video by throwing shit at him, that's an undeniable fact and she escalates further after being told to stop, it's clear on the video verbatim "not without a fight" when he tells her to go away. The "white kid" being charged and the woman not being charged is a clear show of bias that Hasan would have totally lost his shit at had it been some black person being harassed by a white person and the black person taken the same actions as "the white kid" then getting charged by police. I 100% believe that he would have made another "cops=racists" video on tyt from that.
Racial prejudice in the court system is such a conspiracy theory. The left says that even if you were to fill the whole criminal justice system with anti-racist and minority people, it would still be systemically racist. Like WTF? How would one even create a system like that? Does the system have mind of it's own or something? like is it mind controlling the people within it? It makes zero sense. The criminal justice system is ultimately the people involved in the system. they are the ones making the decisions and the judgments. without the people in it, we have no system. So you are left with either the minorities that are in the system are also racists, or there is no systemic racism. My vote is on the latter.
They are flat out denying that he was hit by anything else because it hurts their position but you can clearly see the guys camera shake like 14 different times. I'm pretty sure near the end she comes over and kicks his PC tower and sounds like he punches her for it right before he turns off the stream. Though, the only reason I believe that is I had my sound turned up to 50 when normally 10 is enough to hear most things.
2:12:32 - destiny playing the low empathic e-boy really shows in the convo lol a women being pregnant hinders her ability to do other things and usually results in her relying on the man in the relationship for aid (which is why they usually call of work during pregnancy, etc.) that comparison is rarted
I haven't seen someone get bodied like Miss Sleepie did here in my life oh my lanta so glad I saw this live. So awesome watching destiny streaming sc2 back in the day, and now he's like the face of debating on twitch getting 7k+ viewers all the time & actually networking. 2019 is Destiny's year to make a mili.
He said "stop" about ten time, "go away" nearly 40 times and "I'll be out soon" almost 200 times. However, finding the original video without people cutting off large portions to make him seem even worse seems to be all that's left on youtube. I had watch Destiny's vid on at it to get the whole thing. Then again I only spent five minutes looking for it before I gave up and went to his vid.
this is what it must look like when hes a part of tyt meetings. "I think we nerd to go full communist!" "that's great hasan, go play with your instagram" "yaaaay!, instagram"!!!
Honestly we Communist dont listen to him either, I guess he just is so stuck in his bubble, its nearly unwatchable or it is outright boring in my case atleast
3:08:45 in australia we actually support people with financial stuff unlike america, so she would be able to leave the relationship and be supported by the government
1:14:25 reverse the rolls and, instead of being pregnant, the man is holding their newborn. The one holding the baby should avoid physical confrontation.
"Throwing something is not against law." "From this day I shall rename thee Glock 18 into Projectile Thrower!" "Let us commence into legally throwing iron projectiles at people in public." Nothing wrong with that, right!?
Hasan Brought up the two men example and I actually think that example works for destiny because if it wer two men his arguments would still apply and I think that it would still be the fault of the person throwing shit imo
Serious question, how the hell did Domer stay so silent during most of the Domestic violence issue? I feel like he was clenching his ass cheeks hard enough to turn coal into a diamond not saying anything.
This aged like milk. Lady was charged for throwing a kettle at his face, because she broke restraining order issued against HIM during prosecution.
Great
Yup, good aging here. 🤣
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO nice
saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauce
**Litterally quoting the law**
”You’re blurring the line between law and what’s not law”
10 sec later she reply to what he quoted from the law: "You just made that up" xDD
She was still pretty damned upset from earlier lmao
@@DannerManner sorry I read your comment wrong
just exposing herself as a total muppet
"Somebody stop that man! He's throwing bricks at full speed into peoples heads!" "I wish we could arrest him ma'am, but it's technically not against the law."
this is the best fucking comment ive ever fucking seen.
Yeah throwing bricks is the same as throwing cardboard. 😂
bananian I hope you’re joking.
@@bananian the difference isn't that one is legal though.
@@bananian at one point her argument was that throwing stuff isn't against the law and you can't be charged for it. Then she started reading the Google definition of assault or something instead of going to the Australian constitution and finding out if they think it's illegal. Surprise, it is. Side note, the law doesn't make a distinction between items thrown. Only intent.
if destiny ever got into a debate with Ben Shapiro, I'd have to watch it at half speed.
Tbh Destiny only speeds up his talking because he gets frustrated when people are just being so fucking obtuse... Like it's triggering
Ben would slaughter destiny
@@thejudge4421 lol yeah he'd fuckin gish gallop him to obliteration
THE JUDGE I don’t think he would tho
@@thejudge4421 theres no way that ben would lose to an 80 year old and win to destiny
I’m losing brain cells watching this girl trying to debate destiny
I'm losing brain cells watching you spell "losing" :-)
I have no brain cells anymore.
dr1pl3x We gotta real fucking cool guy here, now don’t we?
@@drivero2569 As you would say: You are a "Pepega".
Trihard7 my iq actually dropped by 8 points wtf
Good thing she just clarified it's legal for me to stone my wife, because it's an object being thrown, it's not assault and/or battery.
Jason Keen you’re basically objecting an object
Sure :) she did say that. I think she has an IQ lower than the water level in africa
Tomfson swaggersouls is sick dawg
@@SBM-wl6mn oh hell yeah
@Jay L English bro
"NeGaTiVe ViBeS" Id really prefer if you'd be quiet.
KrypticKitty Ah, my favorite meme used in great context.
Girl: Dont be afraid to share your opinion
XQC: OK I'm with destiny on this
Girl: IT'S BECAUSE HE'S YOUR FRIEND!!!!
Timestamp plz
@@therisinggamer8853 2:52:00
1:53:37 GODSTINY joins the conversation
I would like this applied to any and all podcasts. Thank you.
GODSTINY enters the field
2:06:15 is the best part lmao
thanks bud.
thanks buddy...
Hasan:
> I don't want to misrepresent him.
> He essentially believes cardboard is a deadly weapon.
mfw
That's the crux of Steven's argument though, that throwing cardboard box is considered battery or assault therefore he was fair to slap the pregnant chick. Then Destiny turns around and claims that the slap was the least forceful action he could have taken or he couldn't think rationally because it was a heated gamer moment.
@@Alan-wj5zc wait are you memeing? I can't tell
@@pedromonteiro819 I'm not , how about you refute my point instead of trying to dismiss me with ad hominems.
@@Alan-wj5zc it was more than cardboard you idiot
@@Alan-wj5zc Because she threw more items than just the box and his argument is that the woman is the one starting the domestic abuse, which should put most of the blame on the woman, but all these sjws think the woman has done nothing wrong based on gender because if the genders were reversed, the same excuses (being hormonal, stressed) would not apply if it was a male abusing a female. Not once does he say what the guy did is acceptable, the point is a slap is nowhere near the severity of a punch, which he easily could have done instead, but these people who have never taken a punch in their lives think a slap can hospitalise a person.
the double standards are real. same with the items being thrown - they're making excuses about how they only saw one item (the box) being thrown, so destiny makes the same argument to show how stupid it is - no one saw her being hit, so does that mean it didn't happen?
slapping someone obviously isn't a good thing to do, and he isn't excusing it, his point was in terms of physical action it's the least damaging one, but hassan's right, the guy clearly should have just curled into a ball and let the woman abuse him and break his stuff. and he makes the argument that destiny's argument about role reversal is invalid because that isn't the current situation which is bullshit, because why should the domestic abuse in this case be excused because of the abuser's gender?
Destiny completely slapped miss sleepie in the face in this debate
This was as close to domestic abuse without it getting physical. Ah why does Destiny have to go so ham on these poor clueless streamers.
Did she throw him some cardboard?
@@Zandeyninja Have you ever talked to someone they think they knew something so well but they're completely wrong?
Oh God. I hated this shit. It was happening at like 3 AM, and I couldn't turn away. The most annoying thing was Hassan, imho. He kept using the legal system as an argument, and no one called him out for ignoring the fact that there is obvious bias in these cases. His entire platform is also pretty far left, which is extremely anti cop. The women were bad, but they weren't supposed to be political figures
showerman Destiny “Boyz Rool N Gurlz Drooled ” in this debate
She lost every drop of credibility when she refused to understand the "are you on your period?" point and called lie on the assault definition.
Destiny failed to falsify the christian god in this debate.
provide a defeater*
Oh, dude, I was just rewatching that video last night! Lolz. Nice meme.
The meme never dies
Destiny became the Christian God in this debate.
I want to see that debate, can someone link it :)
"Are you single?"
At this moment Destiny felt like he had earned the reason for wanting to stay this way for so long.
this is a destiny podcast OMEGALUL
Is train even capable of running a podcast on his own?
Train doesn’t seem to really add anything to the podcast.
@@azazelop5223I'm sure he does a lot of work behind the scenes to round up the guests and prepare the topic, but on camera he is terrible.
GODESTINY
@@azazelop5223 Train is the cooker, the participants are the ingredients and the podcast is the stove, he just need to sit back and laugh while the world burns.
The girl in the pink hoodie is literally incapable of actually understanding anything they're saying.
FR
2:53:45 "She was like the energizer bunny, she just kept going and going"
BAHAHAHA, Destiny's analogies can be so funny
Pissing myself at Hassan saying the police are more informed about the situation. Irony
Police are scum!!!!!
Unless they make my points better, then they are based!
Lol brainlets
The amount of patience demonstrated by Destiny in this debate at the very least earns him a Nobel Peace Prize
2:05:20 she is saying "We were having a really nice discussion" "you are being rude" while literally she is the one interrupting/talking over Destiny multiple times when he starts speaking. By the way I don't remember her adding any meaningful to the discussion for an entire hour leading up to Destiny arriving.
István Szikra It’s a discord call, interruptions happen all the time. He was being super aggressive and calling her dumb. Huge difference
TheAwesomeness1123 because she was saying some stupid shit. And the stupid shit that she said was just false most of the time. “If you throw something it’s just rude and is not battery” it’s idiotic bullshit.
@@TheAwesomeness1123But she was actually dumb. At least he decided to speak truth
Chat shrinking each podcast monkaS
"you're actually the most negative person..." he just read the law to her and she still doesn't believe it. She ain't the smartest one huh.
Just a typical leftist fact's against my narrative are fake it's redundant
I like destiny more after this.
Why?
"ThRoWiNG SoMEtHING aT soMeOnE is NoT iLLEgAL"
@@theewanger3786 Naw dude she still thinks she's in the right. A few days after the stream some over rustle logs of Miss Sleepie popped up on Destiny's subreddit. She basically said that Destiny is an abuse apologist because Destiny was abused in the past and the fact that she thinks he's like a violent person or something.
@@ProfessorBalth Thats sooooo sad. It goes to show that most humans rather give in in the delusion rather than changing their views because that would mean they would have to admit that they were wrong.
@@theewanger3786 Calling someone stupid because they are doesn't make you an incel lol
Hasan:"He could've done more things to deescalate the situation" Yeah he did.. Multiple times he said stop and leave me alone then she escalated it so he responded
This guy from what I’ve seen and heard is a huge white knight who always tries to defend these twitch girls , he’s trying to get some cheeks at a convention lol
@@slime569 Its not about being a white knight its about thinking theres a better solution than slapping his *pregnant* wife, on *stream* , in front of their *children* . We can all agree she's an abuser, but what he did just made things worse.
He even said it himself so nothing suprising
he shouted stop like a fucking child. that doesn't count as deescalation. just because you're also a fucking manchild with the interpersonal discipline of a toddler doesn't mean that's acceptable behavior
@@linuscontinental2223
So if you were in that situation we could expect you to be calm and totally rational? Sure he shouldnt have hit her however dont act like she wasnt the aggressor in this situation and dont act like it was totally ok what she was doing. Our society has double standards, its ok for a women to abuse a guy but the moment a guy does anything he is a total piece of shit. If you are truly for equality you must recognize this cognitive bias.
I’m not gunna lie but xqc could’ve wiped the floor with these guys if he had access to ms paint to illustrate his 4D points
So true , i also need paint to explain my thoughts , i 100% relate to him
her mind EXPLODED when he explained the period hormonal thing, she walked RIGHT into it LMAO
What’s the time stamp?
@@im_a_person_6969 Oh sry, 1 sec, it's SUPER early
@@im_a_person_6969 1:57:00 is when he explains it, about 1:55:00 is when he drops it at first(not really early, more or less early when he shows up)
3:14:05 best moment in the entire podcast hands down. I rewinded this part so many fucking times. 😂😂
3:08:12 Destiny's face when she says 'Love is very tricky' in domestic abuse case.
@joe smith he had an AVO against her mate. She kept on saying hes the agressor for an entire hour and defended a preexisting AVO with "love is tricky" ?! How fucking biased can you be???
@@SerjSongsROCK don't be a destiny
@@XxDarkmasterxXx dont be braindead.
@Shawn Brink so your point being what exactly? That having an AVO has no weight in the evaluation of the fight in question becaus they might have amazing sex? What does that have to do with anything?!
@Shawn Brink you dont even take 5 seconds to google what an AVO is yet you have the nerve to call me biased. That is fucking amazing.
just came to watch destiny destroy the wamen
RoundFace Damn dude just watch the Deadmoth video if you want to see abuse that badly
@@spaceghosttoast "abuse" lol
@@williamperez492 yea dude the woman was abusing the man
Same
Yeah, the bearded ones are the worst.
3:10:15 Sleepie: “How do you it wasn’t from him accidentally hitting his desk or something from sitting down?”
Yea, he flinched at the sound of him ‘accidentally kicking’ his own desk. Great job, Sleepie, you’ve solved the mystery. Case closed.
i know late comment, but if we take her logic you can also say "who says she didn`t hit herself" utterly stupid
I'd say that's even worse. If he's so damaged he flinches from his own noise
@@FiR3Fr3aKs Not as stupid though considering the insane lengths some females would be willing to go to frame their man in a fit of rage, to gain something, or being hormonal.
White knights and thots getting wrecked by destiny, again 😂
Destiny's desperate screeching made clear that his arguments do not pass muster. At least, not with anyone who isn't a hopeless fanboy.
@@GreyKnight7777 What your saying is extreemly common nonsense, when someone has no argument they resort to insults or complaining about the meathod in which the conversation is occuring rather that the actual argument. Baisically, ur dumb and have no way to prove that your argument is right so your trying to prove that he is wrong through an unrelated meathod.
@@Entropy67 Not very good at the whole self-awareness thing, huh?
GreyKnight7777 lol his arguments stand up? Tf are u talking about?
Bruh some chick got beat by a dude who was glued to Fortnite. How the hell can you find you funny
It blows my mind that Hasan would appeal to the authority of the cops in this domestic abuse situation considering the positions he's been holding throughout this BLM era
it’s what trendy rn, his opinions shifts constantly based on what he knows will get him more followers
If you are white call the cop almost immediately.
@@accountnotfound4209 no shit. The problem is when you have dumb asses that literally say you should never call the cops under any circumstance.
he’s a grifter
@@BlakeLovesPolandHe's not a grifter. He's just incredibly fucking stupid.
2:11:04 well.........
ohhhh shittttt
FUUUUUUUUCK DUDE
@creative name shut the fuck up you piece of shit
@@simien9476 shut up
Sheesh
Destiny was so rude and aggressive in this discussion, I am absolutely disgusted. How dare he speak that way to Miss Sleepie (or as I know her, Belissa. only long time fans know that). I have been a tier 3 sub for over two years now and she has thanked me (AND said my name) each time I resubbed. She is the sweetest girl I have ever known and I will not let Destiny live this down. If she says throwing stuff isn't assault, then that is fact. I am sick of these testosterone filled incels mansplaining the law to women. Now if you'll excuse me, I am going back to moderating her chat from sickos like Destiny. Peace
Ooopsie
How are those nudie pics?
9/10 meme good job.
Howeh LOOOOOL
Nice meme almost got me
The fact that from what you can clearly see in the deadmoth video is her throwing objects at him one of which you can see is folded cardboard and you cannot see him physically touch her. But from what everyone says is they can hear what sounds like a slap but you cannot see it. So destiny's point is there is a clear double standard because nobody can see what happens off camera besides what we can see on camera so saying he slapped her because it sounds like it than dismissing all the possible objects being thrown as a single piece of cardboard because what we saw is clear proof of a selective double standard. You see more evidence of her trying to break his capital, threatening him with violence and assaulting him by throwing objects than us assuming he slapped her . So I get what destiny is saying there is a clear double standard if the roles were switched everyone's thoughts on the video would clearly be more in favor of the evidence it shows than what we assume to interpret from it... I clearly can tell I do not like this Hasan guy...
Well said.
I watched the deadmoth video multiple times now and all i can see is a cardboard thrown. And lets be real here, a thrown cardboard is not gonna hurt anyone. Anything else are assumptions. Like the flinching could also come from him pushing her away. It could also be from fending of thrown items but we dont see that. I really try to get into destiny points, since he usually is very smart about his reasoning and on the meta level i do agree that domestic abuse is equally bad for both genders. But in this particular video his arguments that justify the mans behaviour could easily be turned around to justify the womans behaviour, because all the reasoning is based on assumptions (if we draw the line to only things we can actually see in the video, which he did). For me the synchronous reaction of the childs with the punch sound and her scream make it pretty obvious for me that he hit her, but i recognize that this is an assumption that could be false. But same goes for the throwing assumptions besides the cardboard. His arguing is not as waterproof as usual and it feels like he is pretty biased here because of his own experiences.
Also with the reverse role question, im actually not to sure if we would side with the girl. Im sure that the reaction would be way less severe, since we tend to be way more aware about domestic abuse towards woman than man, but imagine the woman sitting there and the guy crying like the woman. Instead of pregnancy he tells the stream that he has depression and then the slap sound comes, followed later by the punch sound and the man crying like the woman does. I would feel pretty sorry for the guy in that case and definitely not side with the woman, but maybe thats just me.
Ultimately we lack too much information and its anyway up to the justice system to judge over that case.
@@KelScythe my point is that destiny in this debate gives his own assumption a superior likelihood over the other positions assumptions. Because we can see the cardboard and the rest is "just" audio. So we either give both sides assumptions the same scrutiny or none. I agree that the situation suggests that she initiated the fight and that objects were thrown. But he could fend of the objects thrown with one hand and without standing up. This suggests that the other objects were equally threatining as a cardboard. For me its pretty safe to assume with the reaction of the children in mind that the second punch was not a soft one and definitely not appropiate for the situation. Which is what the main disagreement is about. I highly doubt there is anyone disagreeing that we are more aware of female domestic abuse than of males. And thats why i have no interest arguing if the police would act the same with genders reversed, since i already believe they would act different (in the womans favor). To what degree i cant say and you dont either, they have video evidence after all so it might not be that black and white. But most of the discussion is about if the mans reaction in the context of the video is justifiable or in destinies words morally neutral.
@@nholanl1952 Ok first off a thrown piece of cardboard can hurt someone quite easily. Although it might be unlikely that it will hurt someone, it can still do it by getting hit by the corner of the cardboard.
Second, if you are willing to disregard the rest of the thrown items because you didnt see them you would have to apply the same logic to the slap. You did not see the slap therefore you cannot claim that it happened.
You are wrong on so many levels. He asked the woman to stop multiple times (literally like 40 times in the entire video) raised his voice to signify that she should stop.
@@nholanl1952 You also say it was a punch when you have no way of knowing that, and kids cry when arguements happens.
2:45:30 "I simply asked him if he did..."
2:44:15 "Did she hit you? ... Yeah then you should've reported that."
That was her not simply asking him if he got hit and insinuating he's invalid for just not reporting it.
Wait a minute... are you telling me miss sleepie is being dishonest? So fucking shocked
I fucking died laughing when destiny said he had a violence restraining order on the girl and she replied, "love is tricky"
Dude same I was in hysterics pointing at my monitor
03:08:00 funniest part in the podcast hahaha, "Love is very tricky" and then destiny leans back for like 30 sec hahhaha love it
The best moment yes
I will cringe into a fucking singularity too, if someone would try to justify abusive behavior in a relationship.
I use that when my girl wants to argue, " love is tricky bro".
"There is no man or woman, just human."
- Ape, gender abolitionist, 2019
3:14:08 Destiny is my spirit animal
I love how Destiny destroys people on the right AND left. I consider myself on the left, but Christ people have been so ridiculous about this kind of situation.
He has FACTS all across the board, no matter what spectrum you’re on.
He’s mastered modern internet debating talking points, he knows all the answers to overused propaganda
@@@Alan-wj5zc
- "despite entirely not mentioning how the other person ended up looking after that fight" : The police called her in for question and didn't see any bruises on her, what are you talking about? & Destiny did state that in the podcast too? Are you by any chance conveniently has selective memory?
- "he's incredibly biased because he was a victim of a similar circumstance": This is not a valid argument, since he get abused doesn't mean he's 100% bias, you have to provide the EVIDENCE to his bias. Not all abused men are bias regarding domestic abuse
- "entirely based on speculation": This is not facts, not "speculation" alone, this is "safe assumption" ( that means 99% of the times it's going to be right). Allow me to elaborate: When you hear sound of his stuff breaking from the back, you surely knows what did happen (hint: It's not just cardboard being broken & thrown around or something magically get blown by the wind if you're into that kinda stuff). :)
- "We all saw what he did when he was getting thrown cardboard": debunked by point made above & objects can have sentimental value to a person too.
Just friendly reminder buddy, you're not so rational as you thought you might be.
@@lemonhaze1506 So first of all you completely misunderstood me. I was talking about when Destiny was mentioning the photo the guy took of him having scratch marks. Destiny brought this up and completely failed to mention how the other person could have been left out from that fight. Is this not evidence of bias?
I never said all men are biased about domestic abuse if they were victims of it, don't strawman me. I said Destiny is clearly biased because of all the false equivalencies he keeps referring to like the analogy with rape, where the rape victim is never questioned even though this domestic abuse situation is not as black and white as literal rape.
You can't really be serious about it being okay to make these assumptions. Destiny himself questions the ethics and morality of breaking news because most of the time the information can be wrong, yet he is okay with making "educated guesses" with no real information?
Just rewatched the video. Sounds like a ball was thrown followed by the cardboard that he swung back. He got up, sat back down, got up and slapped her. Audible slap, she starts crying the guy clearly slapped her because of his reaction and saying he will say sorry. Using Destiny's logic, I think getting slapped earns getting your shit fucked with. Which is what happened. Try watching the video yourself and tell me you aren't regurgitating his memes. I'm a fan of destiny as much as the next guy but get your own fucking talking points.
@@Alan-wj5zc
I'll go through your response point by point buddy:
1. Destiny mentioning of the photo is NOT to brought up what could have happened to the guy, in which case he'll have to mention what could have happened to the girl as well to remain unbiased. It's just the evidence of what did happen: The guy has signs of being abused physically & the girl did not. Simple as that.
2. I'm not strawmanning you, I'm explaining why that's not an argument but just a statement on your part. Sure people has the tendency to be disgusted over rape and such, but a strong analogy is a strong analogy; you can't scratch that off if it provides enough relevant characteristic regarding the mentioned situation.
3. It is okay to make safe assumptions given enough information & to use that as a base for argument. Yes I know it's not hardcore facts, but if you're too afraid to use safe assumptions or discard them entirely, you won't be able to progress in life. Most of our discoveries & decision-making in life, after all, is base off of safe assumptions. And furthermore, if provided your input on the situation, nobody in the podcast has any base for any argument at all in the first place.
4. "getting slapped earns getting your shit fucked with": you're misrepresenting the real situation here, INITIATE these kind of stuff & breaking someone else's belongings is what got the girl shit.
@@lemonhaze1506 I'm not here to argue too long, but holy shit.
1. What? Destiny 100% brought up those photos to shine a light on the woman for being an abusive partner which is incredibly one sided and disingenuous. I don't see how you can claim the girl did not have signs of also being a victim of domestic abuse when we have the video and the information that she was released after her testimony and the guy was not. Once again you are making assumptions without all the information.
2. By definition you were strawmanning me! You were putting words in my mouth I never said. What does the disgusting nature of rape have to do with this? Destiny was making a bad analogy. Simple as that. Rape is black and white compared to this domestic abuse situation. You have a pregnant wife throwing shit at her husband, then you have a husband who slapped the pregnant wife. Both parties were violent, one more than the other (the man). In a rape situation you only have the attacker and the victim.
3. The thing is Destiny is not! He was criticizing Hasan over him taking police reports and tips and reporting on their investigation into the death of a black girl on TYT. Destiny said he doesn't like the ethics of breaking news because the information is unreliable, yet he's willing to make assumptions here? Strange how you did not counter this point.
4. I agree Destiny's logic is silly. Provoking someone doesn't give them the right to put their hands on them. Once again, she did not break anything until she got slapped, that is when she started pushing back more... almost like the pimp slap didn't resolve the situation and only worked to escalate it.
2:38:45 Everyone gets all upset and Destiny just laughs 💀💀
dammit stop steering the convo about the twitch ban, no one cares, the other part is the entertaining one
exactly who gives a fuck about the twitch ban, it's literally tangential to the REAL issue which is the discussion around whether what he did was justified or not. the moral discussion is 10x more interesting than some speculations about how twitch should conduct themselves regarding bans
Its the same reason i cant watch his stream, he runs ad's every two seconds makes it really hard to follow the conversation when there are ads
@@MrTimeMaster2 just run ublock origin
They can't help themselves. They all make their living streaming in the same website so they are all much more interested in the ban then anything else but, they do understand that's not what the audience cares about.
Debates on morals > debates on company policy
Not having Destiny on Scuffed Podcast should be a crime.
"why are u in this call" lmao
Agreed. She literally added nothing. When she spoke it was just noise.
I love when role reversal isn’t seen as an argument because it’s too real
So what did we learn today?
Women can act irrationally when they are hormonal and their behavior is excused if that's the case.
Throwing stuff at someone's face is not battery.
The guy diffidently hit the woman off-camera but all the ducking, camera shaking and noises of things falling or being broken had nothing to do with the woman. He's probably cause of all of that.
Screaming/telling people to stop is not an attempt to deescalate.
Abuse victims shouldn't talk about abuse situations of other people.
And there's almost 2 more hours to go...
69 likes nice
2:06:12 - 2:06:25 My homeboy destiny, gotta love him
TheAwesomeo1000 squad fuckin w
no you don't. He's actual a real bigot and piece of shit
Damien INSANE-O Bigot? You are fucking sad dude.
@@Illumirage get outta here LMAO
@@Illumirage STFU
I really would like this to be on Spotify
"throwing something at someone is not illegal" ..why is this person even on the podcast ?
Looking back on this after the Hassan and Destiny tiffle, Hasan really loves the cops in this debate
Love how she IMMEDIATELY goes from admitting she assumed it was the guy throwing things in the background (when she just admitted that she saw the girl throwing other things), to accusing Steven of assuming that she threw more than one thing, and claiming that she's just going off what the video shows, and not assuming things.
Huh?!
Hey guys moe was in this podcast, remember him, me neither
Moe is a stupid kid don't know what value his insight would add.
@@Zandeyninja lol
@@Zandeyninja Being 10-15 years younger than half of them provides a vastly different perspective. That's the value. But he doesn't actually add much in this particular podcast. I don't think he had much to say about any of the topics.
Lol lmaooooo
@@ConnorLipke he most likely just wants to stay away from this. everything in his life is going great for him; no need to lose fans over choosing a side here when both sides are being debated already by appropriately knowledgeable adults.
So the girl In the top right is basically saying if I YEET a fire extinguisher at her head it’s not assault
Edit: and or battery
2:06:14 the laughs in the background on Train & Yassuo when he says "Why are you talking?" get me every time.
This sorry excuse of an intellectual human female trying to defend the definition of battery instantly shows how qualified she is to even have an opinion on this topic.
John Laceda tbf 90% of these guys are armchair experts. Destiny is just the most eloquent. He even admits it at one point
@@StolenPvP who the fuck isn't
@@StolenPvP I may sound dumb but i just got into these podcast debate things, but what are armchair experts?
@@thevalkyrieog some pleb who talks about something as if their opinion matters
Fair point, but I detect an incel.
1:53:37 Timestamp for GOD.
"you're such a negative person"
Is this podcast always like this?
It is, I don't see why Trainwrecks tried to claim it's a chill and easy going. When last time he called Trihex an asshole. One of the nicests guy on Twitch just because he takes forever to get to his point or accidentally interrupts.
Well, to be fair, I love him but destiny is a pretty negative and contradictory guy.
@@mystereee1479 I don't think you know what contradiction means.
@@midir4000 yeah i think i meant contrarian. I believe he firmly believes his positions but he relishes when his positions contradict those held by others.
I wasn't trying to imply he contradicts himself. I know that his whole thing is that he wants his beliefs on a whole to be consistent.
@@midir4000 well when he said the thing about a poltergeist throwing things he didnt realize he was arguing against himself
Miss Sleepie is a fitting name, her brain was sleeping the whole time
Who knew Hasan was such a huge fan of police.
Right? The cops spoke with both parties so they know more than us, not like there was video or anything..
Happened in australia my dude
and now he's a huge fan of Cuties. LOL
@@CielPhantomhive1 bruh hasan is so gross, jesus. i can’t stand the guy
Hasan takes positions when they're convenient for him to take. He has no conviction
Cop: So... can you explain yourself as to why you assaulted your wife?
Dude: *You know... love is very tricky*
1:56:46 "why are you attacking me because i'm a female?"
Haven't heard such a loaded question since grade school
2:15:32 "you just made that up" i have kek'd myself into another dimension, this chick cannot be real
I like Destiny but he did ask if she was on her period.
Which was inappropriate and targeted at her only because she is a woman.
Destiny even admitted later on that he wouldn't do that to a Male streamer
Ja Ra
He did that to demonstrate that blaming behaviour on hormones is reprehensible. She said that it was okay (essentially) for the women to throw things at the man because she was hormonal.
Jess
That's not a loaded question in this context. And he explained why he said it almost right away.
@@jari32 because it would have been stupid, considering men don't get periods?
worst and best podcast to date
truest statement of the century. also do you know the clip they are referencing?
2:15:01
_"You're blurring the lines between law and what isn't the law."_
So, in the context of Australia and its laws:
Section 20 of the Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935 (SA) outlines the offence of Assault.
Assault occurs if there is any intentional and unwanted physical force used against a victim [s 20(1)(a)]. For example, punching, hitting or kicking a person. The force used can be direct or indirect. For example, if because of an assault, a person drops a child they were carrying, that is also an assault on the child - even though the child was not directly assaulted.
Assault also occurs if there is any intentional and unwanted direct or indirect contact with another person, however slight the contact may be, if the person committing the assault knew that the victim might reasonably object to the contact [s 20(1)(b)]. For example, it could be throwing a newspaper at someone, knowing the person might object to that.
*Assault can occur even without physical contact.* If a threat is made to apply force and the victim reasonably believes that the person can carry out the threat or there is a real possibility that they will [s 20(1)(c)]. For example, if a person points a gun at someone or produces a knife.
An assault can also occur when a person accosts (approaches and confronts aggressively) or impedes (blocks the way of) another in a threatening manner [s 20(1)(e)].
_What is not considered assault_
A distinction is made for behaviour that falls within the limits of what would be accepted as normal social interaction or community interaction. Such behaviour does not constitute assault.
Examples of such conduct include acts such as patting the shoulder of another person to attract their attention, or pushing between others in order to get out of a crowded bus. Although these acts involve intentional touching of another without their consent, provided they are committed in a non-hostile and inoffensive manner, they do not constitute assault.
In addition, any conduct that is justified or excused by law is not an assault.
*Maximum penalty
*
>Basic offence: two years imprisonment
>Aggravated offence: three years imprisonment
>Aggravated offence by use of, or threatened use of, an offence weapon: four years imprisonment
*Source:* lawhandbook.sa.gov.au/ch12s05s01s01.php
*Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935:* www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/A/CRIMINAL%20LAW%20CONSOLIDATION%20ACT%201935.aspx
Naicu
plasticiconoclastic legend, be a lawyer
THANK YOU
Aussies lul
and the person who actually needed to read it didnt.
Moe's intermittent laughs every half hour or so are beautiful. 3:04:37
I love how many times Hasan deferred to the righteous decision making abilities of the police in this. It would be great to see him to try keep his stance here post-George Floyd.
That is called "Appeal to Authority".
1:54:30 deadmoth topic
Destiny putting these people in a body bag
@@Mobasity yep, the guy reacted wrong but the ultimate fault is 100% on the woman in the case, its hilarious how the bunny hoodie lady acts like woman did nothing :D
that literally makes zero sense. u say the dudes actions are wrong and then blame his actions on the female 100%?
destiny is a pussy beta male who doesn't seem to understand like every other libtard that woman and men are different and should be treated differently based on the context of the situation.
if my pregnant wife is throwing shit at me cus shes frustrated that im a deadbeat low iq beta male father who prioritizes video games over his family and responsibilities ....oh wait that would never happen.
like yea the girl escalated the situation but that's really not all that surprising considering shes a woman with kids and the father is a fucking loser. and it's definitely no excuse to lose control and beat her lmao are u kidding?
@@andrewb8655 so where is the line for woman tho, if she doesn't kill you she is in the right
@@andrewb8655 Everything about your statement probably would make Destiny kill himself on the spot. The epitome of irrational holy shit. I don't even know where to start XD The fact that you make random ass assumptions over what kind of person the father is? The fact that you make this assumption that he beat the fuck out of her?
The fact that you have these expectations for what men should/should not do with no reasonable explanation why???
The first few hours are like a slow dbz arc leading up to Goku arriving and having a crazy battle
My favorite was when she said "something heavy" after estfan said that cardboard counts as a weapon. "Your honor the object my client used to attack his wife is 50 milligrams under the legal weight requirement for what constitutes a weapon, therefore he can't be guilty of assault with a weapon."
Hasan don’t trust cops in any other situation except for this one. Smh.
These 2 grill would have been crucified if Hasan wasn't there
Facts
I mean, Hasan pretty much got crucified himself
@mayrana2 Well we can claim that the "white kid" did physically assault her because everyone and their grandmothers could hear the slap. I just don't see how Destiny can claim the dude had de-escalated the situation by escalating with stronger violence. I also don't see how its invalid to suggest the cops had more information than us since they were the ones that were on scene after we all saw what went down.
Hasan is the embodiment of white knighting.
@@Alan-wj5zc The wamen did assault him in the video by throwing shit at him, that's an undeniable fact and she escalates further after being told to stop, it's clear on the video verbatim "not without a fight" when he tells her to go away. The "white kid" being charged and the woman not being charged is a clear show of bias that Hasan would have totally lost his shit at had it been some black person being harassed by a white person and the black person taken the same actions as "the white kid" then getting charged by police. I 100% believe that he would have made another "cops=racists" video on tyt from that.
God I love revisiting this every few months.
3:08:14 "Love is tricky" xDDDD
the moment that idiot said that i literally screamed at my computer screen
That not love actually
@@crocopde wow bois, Sherlock here cracked the case.
Probably not what people want to hear.... but. This is why Im Mgtow, that was one of the cringyest things Ive ever heard coming from a womans mouth.
@@whatisitthesedays Figures someone would comment to insult. Bro. Move on. Just sharing an opinion. You can criticize without insulting pointlessly
I love putting 4 hours of time into watching these podcast it is absolutely worth it
1:56:55 Her face after she gets completely smoked is fantastic.
1:15:40 the woman being smaller gives her more of a right to hit someone? Essentially what Hasan and purple girl are saying.
I wish everyone talked about me like this when I was running late to a social setting
Imagine thinking that the criminal justice system is unfair to minorities but not unfair to males in domestic abuse cases.
Racial prejudice in the court system is such a conspiracy theory. The left says that even if you were to fill the whole criminal justice system with anti-racist and minority people, it would still be systemically racist. Like WTF? How would one even create a system like that? Does the system have mind of it's own or something? like is it mind controlling the people within it? It makes zero sense. The criminal justice system is ultimately the people involved in the system. they are the ones making the decisions and the judgments. without the people in it, we have no system. So you are left with either the minorities that are in the system are also racists, or there is no systemic racism. My vote is on the latter.
You're blurring the lines between lawwwww, and what isn't the lawwwww
Why am I watching a bunch of people I've never seen before discuss an event I wasn't aware of?
I love how they will try to fall back on the idea that nobody saw her hit him but they will sit and act like they know 100% it was just some cardboard
They are flat out denying that he was hit by anything else because it hurts their position but you can clearly see the guys camera shake like 14 different times. I'm pretty sure near the end she comes over and kicks his PC tower and sounds like he punches her for it right before he turns off the stream. Though, the only reason I believe that is I had my sound turned up to 50 when normally 10 is enough to hear most things.
2:12:32 - destiny playing the low empathic e-boy really shows in the convo lol a women being pregnant hinders her ability to do other things and usually results in her relying on the man in the relationship for aid (which is why they usually call of work during pregnancy, etc.) that comparison is rarted
Destiny joins at 1:53:00
Fucking thank you
Real G
I haven't seen someone get bodied like Miss Sleepie did here in my life oh my lanta so glad I saw this live. So awesome watching destiny streaming sc2 back in the day, and now he's like the face of debating on twitch getting 7k+ viewers all the time & actually networking. 2019 is Destiny's year to make a mili.
16k on his most recent debate
He said "stop" about ten time, "go away" nearly 40 times and "I'll be out soon" almost 200 times. However, finding the original video without people cutting off large portions to make him seem even worse seems to be all that's left on youtube. I had watch Destiny's vid on at it to get the whole thing. Then again I only spent five minutes looking for it before I gave up and went to his vid.
This was my intro to trainwrecks, rewatching lol
Poor Moe, didn't say a damn thing
1:56:29 Hasan realising that nobody is listening to him
HAHHHAHHAH, no one listens to the communist
and 3:12:45
that's a shot to the proletariat
this is what it must look like when hes a part of tyt meetings.
"I think we nerd to go full communist!"
"that's great hasan, go play with your instagram"
"yaaaay!, instagram"!!!
Honestly we Communist dont listen to him either, I guess he just is so stuck in his bubble, its nearly unwatchable or it is outright boring in my case atleast
3:08:45 in australia we actually support people with financial stuff unlike america, so she would be able to leave the relationship and be supported by the government
>> skips forward to the point where destiny joins for the juice
>> skips to 2:00:45
>> Pog tent
train needed the juice from destiny 1:55:48
I wish Hasan didnt Counter-point everything Destiny says ever, ive watched so many of these streams and he's just straight annoying at this point lmao
Tmaynzee tryna mooch off of destiny’s community lulw
Was* mooching
1:14:25 reverse the rolls and, instead of being pregnant, the man is holding their newborn. The one holding the baby should avoid physical confrontation.
1:19:10 there you go. ape alpha brought it up.
@@Lite619 a slap to the face does not affect tge baby
@@Lite619 what are you on???
Men are always charged in 50/50 situations. And in this situation the woman started it
Men are charged in much more than 50/50
@@jonmacdonald2193 Indeed, but I should tell you that he didn't say that. He said that men are always the ones being charged in such 50/50 situations.
"Throwing something is not against law."
"From this day I shall rename thee Glock 18 into Projectile Thrower!"
"Let us commence into legally throwing iron projectiles at people in public."
Nothing wrong with that, right!?
Can you build me a cardboard projectile?
Hasan Brought up the two men example and I actually think that example works for destiny because if it wer two men his arguments would still apply and I think that it would still be the fault of the person throwing shit imo
Oh god the fact that xqc literally put a bullet in hasans argument and then hassan didn't register what xqc said was a literally BRUH MOMENT
Timestamp?
3:02:51 is the time stap i think because it was a week ago i made this comment imma rewatch it later to if this is the right one
Why was Moe even here? Dude contributed absolutely nothing for hours.
2:33:47 very painful high 5 btw
Serious question, how the hell did Domer stay so silent during most of the Domestic violence issue? I feel like he was clenching his ass cheeks hard enough to turn coal into a diamond not saying anything.