i was the chaser, i gave up, and moved on. He didn’t respond to my feelings, he didn’t open up. I could sense he liked me, and had feelings for me, but he kept it hidden. I struggle every day to move on with my life, i find it so hard to be happy, I miss him so deeply. I try to force me not to think about him, but my heart hurts and everything reminds me of him. i see car like his, or hear a song, and my heart skips a beat. sometimes i wish i had never met him. 🤷🏻♀️💕😔
@@Rosesraspberries72 Reiki working on your chakras I did that for years - energy healing, past life regression, inner child some modalities I’ve used - good luck 👍🌎😉
@@Rosesraspberries72 I used a lot of healing sleep meditations and also did a lot of work on my chakras. It helped sooooo much! I continue to do it every day and I’m in separation right now, but I am so at peace inside of me. Search TH-cam for healing sleep meditations ♥️
When the chaser starts becoming aware of their own worth and stops chasing and starts inner work and finally their soul mission = Game over for masculines.. now they start facing tower moments and start going crazy coz they are losing control, which forces them to transform and become DM and finally start taking action..
Yes this where I am at now. I feel so much at peace and not focused on reuniting with my twin. More about my self love and started my business which is doing well. I am also traveling so I am living my life. If we come together or not, I will be okay either way.
Yup, this is where I am now. I had to cut him off and make the sacrifice to focus on being ready for union. No more of this runner/chaser madness. It’s utter nonsense and only distracts from the deep work that is necessary for true harmonious union.
i agree but it’s game over for the feminine in my case. she can not balance the DM and DF inside her. something that must be balanced. please don’t assume that it’s all males
I can say it from my perspective, I was the chaser and I’m moving on. I needed to do it, it was suffocating me, stopping me from my purpose in life, I was focused on him all the time and I just walked away.
The phrase “by myself’ is actually such a beautiful combination of words. Being by your own side, being your own best friend, that someone who is by you is YOU and that is just such a great way of looking at those two words that more often than not have a more negative connotation.
That’s why I feel like the whole we will end up with a twin flame no matter what is kinda bs. It’s all free will. My twin flame can choose not to be with me at all and with someone else instead and that’s that for our twin flame journey.
It's the people who have been on this "journey" for years that say that. And people looking to make profit. A lot of them seem to have been tricked by a narcissist. Its a tactic they use.
Geez I'm tired hearing this kind of explanation...... yes I'm my twinflame...then why people keeps selling me the program to "get back twinflame" 🙄🙄🙄🙄duhhhh
@@kim6314 maybe it’s to “get back” your soul. Which actually means awaken to the feeling that’s who you already are. But I get it. There’s tons of folks out there with varying messages/programs, etc. You do you. But New World All Star is the best one I’ve found to help get to inner peace. Not 100% there. But more there than I used to be! ❤️❤️
Chaser. It’s a mindset, the way I allow my mind to define what’s happening matters. I’ll never Give Up, but rather I have Surrendered. Let happen what may, in its own timing. The sweetest fruit is allowed to ripen naturally.
I'm experiencing this now.We could get a strong sense of intimacy and connection by connecting our hearts (heart chakra) with our twin flames' heart.I got a splendid flow of energy by doing so last night
When someone is a chaser for label times it's not a mindset that's not accurate at all. It's an energy until someone overcomes it. It's just like the runner for label terms until they go through it. It's not someone imagining it in their mind. It actually happens until they've went through. The mental and physical changes along with ascensions. Because you have more than one ascension. And more awakenings during the journey.
I was the Chaser but no longer, it's been about a year since last round of separation only this I put huge boundaries in place and cut contact, he has tried, his A-Hole behaviour was quite enough I realised I deserve everything wonderful that life has to offer. Now I put my energy and love into me.
The chaser, im ready to move on, and I am doing it, i can no longer wait for a gost,that may use the rest of his life to open up, cause he doesn’t dare to meet his fears and trauma
And sometimes twin flame experiences accelerate your death. I don't see myself loving anyone else. I will try. if the opportunity presents itself. I'm not looking for anyone though.
@@ewoodiemathis6309sounds like you are not twin flame, you were with a narcissist as a karma connection. All connections is created for us to learn lessons about ourselves. Twin flame does not accelerate your death, it does cause your internal death because you need to shad off all of the old self and let go of your ego. Twin flame is for soul growth and spiritual ascending. Not for death.
I chased so much, he ran right into the arms of someone else 😏😅 I laugh, but it's extremely painful.. he still reaches out to me and says he misses me.. but he married someone else, so.. all of this is very exhausting.. grateful for lessons learned, but I'm tired.. be well, folks.♥️
I was the chaser AND now i decide to move on AND love myself first. And Let go. We still talk but my aproach to the conection Is diferent. I am living this conexión to God AND moving on to start having somenthing solid in my life.
This is video is the only one I’ve found to be authentic and real, thank you for this I’m in between having hope but moving on. I’ve detached so much that I’m okay with either outcome. If we’re meant to have union in this lifetime I’m okay with that, and if we’re not meant to come back together then I’m okay with that too. All I’m wanting to attract is balance. I release him so he can work on focusing on himself and his own growth. I don’t want the other him and I can’t say I want the new him because I don’t know that new person either. So there’s nothing I’m fully attaching to anyways. I wish him the best ✨
i was the runner, as a female. i just wasn’t ready. It frightened me so i ran far far away from him. I’m now at a place where i’m not running and i feel ready for this
I am the chaser and I moved on, and ended up to many karmic partners. I didnt choose my twin flame. I didn't put her first. Sometimes I thought if I even have a twin flame. But I do have, Randomly I feel her energy. And it only happened, when I was happy and very energetic about it. But Let me tell you: I needed the lessons with karmic partners. I didn't love myself. And i was seeking the happiness and love from others and not from deep inside of me. I forgot who i am. I was so lost long time. I wasn't ready for twin flame re-union. I needed to heal my wounds and love my self, and put myself first. Accept me who I really am. The main lesson is for me: Need to enjoy my life without other persons involved, codependency. I am Divine feminine and I miss my DM. I hope we will meet some day.
I finally surrendered after 15 years of emotional torment, pain, loss, obsession, and longing for my twin. I never felt so free in my life. I’m no longer interested and no longer desire the reunion ❤
Sometimes you need to let go so the runner can feel a lessening of your intense vibrations and get in touch with what's really happening for them. Of course it works both ways....it really is all about working on yourself- and about trusting God to do everything else- whatever the outcome.
I PRAY THE UNIVERSE GRANT YOUR HEART ❤DESIRES WITH MORE LOVE AND COMMITMENT FROM YOUR EX ❤️ THROUGH THE SAME GREAT MAN OF THE UNIVERSE DR BABA,, WHO HELPED RESTORED MY BROKEN HOME. 🏠HE CAN MAKE YOUR EX BEG FOR A SECOND CHANCE
Unusually for the comments on here, I ran like hell... not to anybody else... just to escape the painful energy... in survival mode I guess. Over the years I've fully awakened both emotionally and spiritually. I've learned forgiveness and acceptance.. and humility. I hope my TF is happy and at peace and found love. Sending my love to all who have a similar connection
Disclaimer: TF journeys are always deeply personal, of course. 💟 In my own journey, I was the chaser, and while I gave my TF space, I never gave up on him. I did my shadow work & healed from my trauma that caused a rift before. From then on, I approached every interaction with him from a place of unconditional love rather than fear. There’s a balance to TF journeys; sometimes you may need to separate in order to heal. But if you both put in the inner work and are open to change, you may find your way back to each other-if it’s in the highest good for both of your journeys (and/or your TF journeys). ❤
I'm a chaser so far and at a point of thinking it's really fucked up and I don't want any TF connection in my life. I want peace and back to the time before meeting him, no fuss, no drama. And then, deep inside, I know it's not true cos I love him unconditionally. So what's the point in moving on? It's not going to happen truly, I would have to kid myself on for the rest of my life. And what if he doesn't want any of it or union is not going to happen in this life? Waste of time. Yeah, I know, spiritual development, bla, bla, bla. Thanks, I can do that and I am doing that fine without any TF pain, suffering and drama.
I’m the chaser and finally gave up. I gave up once before and my runner came back, only to run again. He didn’t do any healing during our separation so nothing changed.
I will never give up on my journey ive come to far for that.. Its incredible what truly happens when you do take the steps your awakened soul leads you to take. I often wish you can truly express yourself without being misunderstood. I love my person whole entirely. i have dealt with so many of my wrongs and gotten right with myself and people in my life. Living a life of honesty and integrity. I have learned the value of unconditional love. i am an amazing writer and i have sent him messages of hope inspiration and love & have left the door open for him on many occasions. I don't even want to guess anymore were we stand. and it feels like unfinished business.. I wish him the very best at all times but i feel i need me right now. i was the chaser and choosing to not be the runner. You can have amazing relationship with person that demonstrates true non demanding love or one with fear. I am choosing love! from me to me.. Ty (fyi awakened for 3 years now)
@♡ and he can choose a million partners.. if that's what you mean by f others? that's his free will to choose..im living my best life with my heart wide open. i deserve big love if not him the divine will bring what i so rightfully deserve..Ty have a great day..
If all you want is a Relationship, you should try finding someone else who is going to respond better and let go of this twin flame label. You’ll be more happier. You can have synchronicities with anyone, it’s not “twin flame” specific
I was the chaser and I think that maybe it’s just possible that there was no connection like I felt there was . Maybe the sex was only amazing to me and that when I looked at him I could see things in the future that I could only see because I was the only one wanting that shit . Either way I went crazy for over a year thinking about him everyday . It was making me physically Sick I couldn’t stop thinking about it and us . Finally one day I woke up and didn’t think about him I was good, then this fool messages me to tell me some shit he had no plans of doing and then blocked me AGAIN twin flames is bullshit just men with narcissistic attributes and don’t care for you like u wish . Just let it go and find someone who doesn’t make you wonder if your crazy because a person who is into you will be there to show you they want you and their efforts will be worth it . Sitting waiting for someone who isn’t gonna show up or show out is just u wasting time on yourself love . Be the best you so that if you ever see them again in flesh they can think DAMN I SHOULDNT OF LEFT THAT BEHIND
It doesn't matter chaser who knows runner who knows give upper that is known as saving life's of others! Being a giver instead of a taker!! That is me I care for others before myself!
I was the chaser. No more. I am determined never to run. However, my DM has told me that she chooses her (karmic) husband and that’s the life she wants and needs. I can no longer contact her in good conscience. I have not given up on hope or on us, but I have given up on trying. I met my DM 34 years ago and she is still running. After awakening to being a TF over 6 years ago and being on a healing journey for 5, I have no expectations as to whether we will be together within this lifetime. I’m inclined to think that it won’t happen for many years yet if so, however all possibilities are still on the table as I cannot rule anything out. This has been a very difficult journey. Thank you for this video. 🙏 EDIT: I now believe that the woman I thought was my DM was not my true twin flame, but a catalyst. Oh well. Now I'm letting go of her and opening myself up for my true twin flame. 🙏
@@WhimsicalLiving My DM and I have done a poor job of staying in touch... and she never really checked on me. I was always the one to contact her except for one time back in 1993. Part of me wonders if she really is my TF after all... but I am missing someone badly right now... it’s hard to believe it could be someone I haven’t met yet, so maybe I am right about my DM. I don’t know. Thanks for reaching out. 💖
@@yinyangphoenix I think the TF journey is really complicated and confusing. There are times when i really question it too. But that is the beauty of it. Whenever i start questioning it or doubting my intuition.. i start noticing so many synchronicities.. it is unreal! Guess we'll only know with time... wishing you all the very best in your journey and sending you lots of love and hugs and positivity ❣
@@WhimsicalLiving The Universe never does let me forget. Something always comes up. Her name, birthdate, area code, hometown, initials, mascot of the school where we met, and more have been long-time candidates for those signs. I wish you the best!
Chaser here... TF is currently incarcerated and detoxing... I’m grateful for this time... so many lessons from this union, about myself... I’m loving on and holding myself real tight right now...🙏🥚🐛🦋
I know this is easily said than done but never put the runner on a pedestal, move on from them....you will be so much happier without them.....they have issues and if they wake up then it's up to them? I think once this energy is created by the chaser the runners life will fall apart, it will be meaningless and twice as much pain and suffering than they already feel!!!!! The chaser always wins with self-love......but these decisions always stem from the ego and lack of spiritual maturity in both bodies. Allow and except is easily said than done.....love always wins
Yes... just because one TF chooses to play games or lacks spiritual growth does not justify abandonment as to gain something. You'll just set yourself up for a back and forth never ending tit for tat. Relax meditate and send love ... no matter what send love. Love will win!
I'm the chaser.. I just can't see myself fully forgetting my runner ever. I know if I do...my mental health would improve and so I'm letting you up on the chase but....fuck it's so hard.
I've been both. He chased me I ran. Then he ran I chased him. We go back and forth. I'm trying to just let go and let God. It can be hard sometimes not to want to control the outcome!
I was the chaser..but I'm moving on....im at peace wit being wit out him..if itz meant it will b..but no more trying to force any love from Noone..im loving myself enough 😌
Just continue to grow spiritually and let Universe help you. I am sure something positive about this connection will take place according to the timing by the Universe.
Chaser and yesterday on the full moon and eclipse in Sagi something broke in me. I have waited and waited for him to come back but no more now. I have been in this depression for years now and now I am going to take care of myself. I have kept back from so many people and things stuck in his energy. But now I am going to live m6 life. Now if he wats to come back he has to give me time attention and speak the truth. In and out energy is not going to work for me now. Come whole or not at all. I am living my life.
Well said! It is too exhausting with that On/off energy! It saps the very "joy" out of you! If we "allow it", of course! All the best to you...moving forward.🤗🕊️💐🌅🇬🇧
The urge to give up is very strong in this sort of connection because the pain is so bad. As a chaser I am trying not to trouble the twin flame runner. I haven't contacted him in almost 7 years. My TF journey began 11 years ago. I tried to build a relationship with someone else but that almost relationship failed before it could begin and this happened because someone else influenced the person I was trying to move on with against me. It feels like I have failed in love. My health is failing too even though I am only 35. Feeling hurt, exhausted and alone.
I am sorry to hear that I am of similar age and experinced the same... It wasnt a twin or soulmate... You had relationship with BPD or NPD person. You went through idealization/devaluation/discard phase. Go read about it and prepare to be shocked. We literally suffer from ptsd after this stuff... I feel like I have bewn damaged so much and as you feel like I could never love again... IMO this is demonic stuff because only a devil could do such a thing...
@mrfatuchi You are so right. I took your advice and watched some videos on narcissism and more specifically narcissistic discards. I realize now that both of the men I was dealing with had shades of narcissism in them and were quite selfish and shallow in their considerations for partner selection. I should have just moved on and not lost good years of my life hoping that things would change and my peace of mind would be restored. To make matters worse my immediate family (parents) knew nothing of the situation for a long time because I was too afraid to tell them and they took me to a money guzzling psychiatrist to try and find out the cause of my behavior and I blurted out the truth to her thinking she could be trusted, but I got burnt badly by that experience. Not only did she betray my trust, she put me on powerful medication which left me zonked for the better part of a year. Things only looked up a little when I moved to another city and started a new life there. A psychiatrist was (and still is) engaged for my 'treatment' by my parents on the grounds that I suffered from persecutory delusions. I am very angry with my parents but there's little I can do. I follow this lady called 'Crappy Childhood Fairy' on TH-cam she's great at advice for PTSD sufferers. I suggest you watch them. She offers cold, hard logic in loving doses and has had a hand in my healing too.
@@scorpionbeatlesgirl87 My situation is different and much worse since it was because of me that breakup happened. The fact I later realized she has BPD doesnt change the fact that I did the wrong thing and never got the chance to asko for forgivness and make things right. Thats the part thats literally killing me because we had special bond and she is like miraculus being to me I will never move on from her. It was just terrible sequance of events and I was going through a terrible time in my life and literally looking back on it had no control of myself and my actions. I often wonder why why why was I being that way... The thing is its only after a breakup I sort of came out of trance and learned about my family, my siblings all have NPD. BPD and NPD are different and I hope to God she doesnt have NPD because thats incurable. The thing is we would have never lasted had I not learned about these things before because her instability woupd be puzzling to me at times. But again its all my fault and I cannot forgive myself and if only I had a chance to make things right... But even for normal person it would be a challange let alone someone with BPD, I basically caused her to split as they call it. If your partners were straight up NPDs just move on without looking back at all since they never cared for you at all. You were just vulnarable target for them. I am not gonna sit here and say we had a great chance of working out, no, it would have required alot of work and maturity ob ny part which I only possess now and didnt before. Thats the worst part, we had to go through this terrible breakup for us to even have a chance yet now she is seemingly gonne forever... It all comes to me in waves and I know time will only make it worse actually since it will only mean the hope is gone and I will have suicidal thoughts as I already do thinking of how it all went down... I just cant live with myself...
@mrfatuchi From what you're saying, I gather that you're racked by guilt and are teetering on a thin edge because of it. From where I stand, I see thay you have a couple of options. The first one would be to put a lot of distance between you and her and do some sort of meditation to calm your mind and move on. I know it's easier said than done but it could benefit you greatly. The second choice would be applicable if things are really unbearable and you can't stand to live without her, put your ego aside (and I am saying this as a bit of friendly advice not intended to hurt or insult you or her) go to her, apologize to her and be willing to go the distance to help the both of you become emotionally healthy again without becoming codependent. If she has by any chance, moved on then you have to accept it and try to get emotionally healthy yourself for the sake of yourself, others around you and even her. I was suicidal too but just too cowardly to actually execute my plans but now, even though things are far from perfect, I still feel that life is worth living and there are several paths to happiness and success. I don't want to lecture you or seem patronizing but I wish you all the best and I hope you find happiness and stability with or without your love interest.
@@scorpionbeatlesgirl87 Thank you very much. All of the advice I am cycling through on constant basis and some options are no longer available. Its all too fresh to let things go completely but I am trying to put things aside in sort of stasis since I have immediate problems in my life to deal with. If she contacts me again and gives even a hint of possible contact again I will confess everything(even thoigh I tried before she wanted none of it). Butbif she doesnt contact me in next few months I will probably gather courage to contact her and see how she is doing to feel things out(I say gather courage since she said she wants no contact). Ans eventually if all hope is lost I will have to just accept reality. As you did. Painful as itbis I guess thats life for some of us... Thank you and I wish you the best also.
true. thanks for saying that it might not happen in this lifetime. i was the chaser and it was so real. all the magic and synchronicities before we met and me focusing only on spirituality not even wanting a partner. but once i saw her, i knew. and with all the telepathy and the pulling i had felt, i finally understood. but traumas that your ultimate mirror opens. she ran and i chased like a foolish teenager. it took many years but i finally gave up even though i feel her every day. i sense all of it and don’t want to. but now, i choose to live. surrender, let go and pick this up in the next lifetime. you can’t cut it but you can separate yourself from the feelings and the telepathy. you are your own divine being. even though we are both single 10 years later and neither of us has been in a serious relationship since. i choose life and am now finally open to a divine counterpart. preferably one that has experienced this themselves. surrender, let go and live.
As a reformed "chaser" that chose to stop, it has NOTHING to do with being unaware of the relationships power or the significance of the mission. It had to do with lines being crossed by them and their horde of sexual deviants hacking my phone and trying to tamper with my energy. Can only take so much for so long til you place them in the mud where they want to be. Everyone chats the same shit over and over but has never dealt with the extreme versions of twin flame/empatb psychopaths. Plus the perverse use of sexual energy? Some of these others saying they'll wait forever and take them back no matter what are just desperate and poorly informed. That mentality shows no self worth or the ability to set boundaries. Runners look at that behavior as a free pass to continue their often disgusting lifestyle cause they don't see a fence up when they do their check ins to see if you're still a dumbass waiting for them.
I don’t know what to do no more iv been rejected over and over and over till I can’t do it no more it hurts I wish I never met them cus I love them so much I just wanna move on and stop thinking about them
I was the chaser in 2018 but I finally gave up and moved on 3 years later I was engaged to someone else and my twinflame returned and I turned her down for the one I was with but sadly this year is one year later me and my twinflames was in separate relationships and both ended up getting cheated on and left for someone else but now me and my twin are friends again and hang out I just seen her 2 days ago
What a timely message Yesterday in a healing session I asked if I should move (chaser masculine) and according to the guidance the answer was no And then this pops up on the algorithm today
I bumped to him again after 7 years on the street and ran away from fear😓And the first time he ran without any information. We just glimpse each other but damn he changed my life a lot. Not sure how to meet him again💔
Thank You, Beautiful Soul, VERY MUCH from a Chaser who is Definitely growing Weary of ALL Chasing...Starting to Wonder what IF I Completely Let Go and Focus on My Mission...the Truth of His Heart will then Reveal...❤️
I PRAY THE UNIVERSE GRANT YOUR HEART ❤DESIRES WITH MORE LOVE AND COMMITMENT FROM YOUR EX ❤️ THROUGH THE SAME GREAT MAN OF THE UNIVERSE DR BABA,, WHO HELPED RESTORED MY BROKEN HOME. 🏠HE CAN MAKE YOUR EX BEG FOR A SECOND CHANCE
I'm a DF in the TF journey. I need the separation was needed. I needed to balance the confusion from the runner. I miss her constantly. I don't see myself being a runner or chaser. I just knew our separation was needed. I've told the universe that when it's time, she'll return. All I keep hearing (internally) patience, compromise and forgiveness. All the time. Yet, I don't hear to just give up.
We both doing both …it’s push pull push pull .. we keep trying to give up but it’s almost impossible !! It’s still there energetically I can’t seem to get over xx it’s a mare !! We both in other long term relationships
He wanted to break up and I simply detached.. I didn’t know how to respond and still haven’t. So now we’re in complete separation in the 3D.. but I still feel very connected to him, and he visits my dreams to “check” on me . I miss him more than anything, but Ik my own personal healing is most important rn
Runner here… I don’t chase even when we switched roles. I work on myself upon meeting himz now we don’t communicated in 3D but we always talk in our minds. i thought I was going insane until I knew someone went thru the same journey as me.
If we feel strongly that doesn't mean they want you. Sometimes you wonder how someone could lie and say they feel the same as you and waste nearly 9 years of your time and heart. I really dont know.
Beautiful question. Sometimes people aren't "right" meaning they are mentally ill, they're not processing emotions correctly, they're not reacting "normally", etc. Sometimes it's better not to analyze it so much and to just move on...easier said than done.
Omg !!!!! I know this voice !!! Maam how incredible is the Universe that it should answer me through your voice. I felt lonely and alone thinking am i the only one in my society or country going through this ! I wished so many times i had someone to talk to or listen to that what i was going through was not madness. Universe has delivered !!! I am so sos so so blown away. Seriously a figure i really admire and respect is the guiding voice here. This means so much !!! Thank u thank u thank u R maan. 🙏🙏🙏. Love u !!
I chased 8 years not 1 reply from him in that time. Just blocked for a 2nd time. Now I have a soulmate who is a woman who I love but I know I love my tf more. Idk what to do but I don't want to lead or mislead anyone.
Well for me..... I love myself. I've realized I have n amazing life.... And the best is yet to come. It's tricky because I share. Child with my TF (never herd any advice about that too). But I'm building my wall and setting boundaries. Im done. I love myself. I deserve better. Him being my TF is not a license to keep hurting me. Enough.!!!!!!!
@@carolinetilling3482 I am releasing my soul mate. He has a kid and narcissist baby mama.... I cannot deal with that, no matter how much we have harmony have on a soul level.
Honestly this twin flame mess I wouldn’t wish on nobody but the it’s actually true. After 6 months of dealing with this I’m done. This makes our 3rd split. Our first was for 3 months , the second was like 2-3 weeks and Now today. I’m tired of chasing even though I never considered myself a chaser but it is what it is. But tired of the rollercoaster of emotions the inconsistency and lack of communication. I asked for a soulmate and ended up with this… I really don’t care if he comes back at this point I don’t care how many days or years. You can’t make a person see your value and if I can take the time to heal then why can’t he? Time waits for no one and life is to short. Either get on the boat or you gone miss it…period.
When the chaser moves on, the other feels relief because the life is unconditional. If you choose something else, it’s very healthy if the chaser and everyone move on. It’s my experience.
I can't pause my own spiritual from my runner being gone. I need to grow up too, while they figure it out. Hell parts of my own pain, caused the separation. I'm done dealing with old pains of abandonment, and being chosen last. I gotta choose me, and just be okay with whatever happens.
I guess they are not a twin flame if they don't want to be with us. I guess it's also possible one person can have strong feelings and the other person feels nothing. I'm done with my person. I can hope she comes back to me but that will never happen. She has too many issues and prefers to be alone and obviously doesn't see me that way.
Life is too short for TF journies. I prefer to see that we have all we need in our 3D world to grow our souls. TFs are just another form of our Shadow. The runner is delivering opportunities to do the shadow work. Ive been both the chaser and the runner. I wish my runner well, although hes a jerk, a snob, and I would live in a kind of prison if we were together.
I've been the chaser. 12 1/2 years. He says I'm his best friend and he loves me. I'm tired of waiting, and he has made no progress. Met someone who is interested, thinking of dating just to see if I feel the same about my TF.
Realized that chaser/runner dynamics are a big waste of time and mental energy. Just focus on doing your purpose in the world. If you needed them to fulfill your purpose, God would put them there. There's no need to chase anybody.
There is now "spiritual growth". Spirit knows everything. Spirit lives in the no-time, the so called eternity. There is no advandege in pain. The twin flame fairytale tells you that you must stop letting in your life people who misstreat you, narcissistic psychos, and sociopaths. That is the "lesson". No mental sick people should take control over naive people. That is the lesson. No growth, but lessons that keep you from falling into the same trap again. Yes, twin flame fairytale helps you not to treat yourself badly again letting that kind of pople in your life again, because you didnt love yourself letting them in: they were toxic and unhealthy, and this world in now full of those, so be careful next time, very careful and wise.
I gave up after a considerable amount of time, but I don't feel bad as others. I feel it was the right decision. I just ended up feeling burnt out and don't feel very motivated towards romantic relationships and I feel I'm still resting. I don't know about this video. Maybe the twin flame wasn't really a twin flame. I don't blame people who do this, but I feel being attached towards the wrong people can be very self-destructive and sometimes it's better to let go completely.
I PRAY THE UNIVERSE GRANT YOUR HEART ❤DESIRES WITH MORE LOVE AND COMMITMENT FROM YOUR EX ❤️ THROUGH THE SAME GREAT MAN OF THE UNIVERSE DR BABA,, WHO HELPED RESTORED MY BROKEN HOME. 🏠HE CAN MAKE YOUR EX BEG FOR A SECOND CHANCE
The fact this video popped up as soon as I told myself I’m done chasing this girl even though we basically best friends 😂😂😂 if it’s ment to be it’ll happen other than that ima stick to myself and continue to work on my future
I’m doing the abandonment and codependency inner work. I’ve looped a few times. I have to give up and be in my core self for a bit, get used to it, new behaviors, beliefs and habits
I’m moving on bc He’s in a relationship he doesn’t want to be honest in. So I stepped up and told her (for the second time in 6mo) he’s in love with me. Even with proof she doesn’t want to see. I’ve done what I thought was right. I will always love my TF yet will not put up with his behavior anymore.
I've been the chaser but....i kinda wanna run.......whew.......so tired of trying to make it happen when he won't talk about feelings........maybe it isn't him?
Anyone that causes you to chase them are detracting from you self respect. There is NO proof they love you , but, there is proof they don't. There are TF but those are spiritually advanced souls. , not one sided poor souls who love someone who couldn't care less. LOVE GOD AND SELF, AND TO HELL AND THE DEVIL WITH ANYONE WHO CANT SEE THE GREATNESS IN YOU !! In your heart you know I'm right. Strength and Honor.
Imo it’s all divinely orchestrated, all you have to do is sit back, work on yourself, and your higher selves will line it all up. Chasing and pushing gets us nowhere anyways so allow the process, trust the advanced intelligences know exactly the right way to get you in the right place at the right time. If it’s meant to be it’ll happen!
We have alternated In the last few years ive chase hes chased But now ive withdrawn completely because betrayal is no longer something i want served as my main dish for my life … He continually refused to commit and wanted to sleep around … Im done Hes begged tracked me down only to revert back to his ways once i gave in and gave my love again … at this point I dont know if this is a twin flame situation or a narcissist… im exhausted
I think my twin flame is a narcissist. Don’t give in anymore and turn that love on yourself. He won’t change unless he do the work… mine kept telling me he’ll change and I had to live myself more than I love him in order to move on.
In the chaser now and honestly I might just give up 😭 he’s been ignoring me for months . Barely talks to me , barely acknowledges my presence . Probably talking to other women . It just hurts, how long do you wait for someone who doesn’t even seem to care about you
Oh bless you, but you have "answered" your own question really?... You don't! Easier said than done, I know, but be busy with yourself. My beautiful late Mother would say..."You can't miss what you never had" She was SO wise. 🦉 Occupy yourself with other "interests" Friends, family? Get in touch with nature, walks in countryside? By water? Cry, 😢, if / when you need to? Then pick yourself up, dust yourself down and move forward. It will get easier and you'll "love yourself" and feel proud at your inner strength 💪 In the words of "George Benson"(singer) "Love will come again, it will captivate you like before. Love will come again, wait and see"🎵🎶 All the best to you! And everyone else that maybe nursing a 💔🤗🇬🇧
@@shezphillips868 I always get readings done about him hoping one day he’ll let his guard down and we’ll become friends again and I wouldn’t have just had this one experience Of true love when I was young and dumb and didn’t appreciate him . That well become friends again like we used to and talk about marriage and our hopes and dreams ... it’s so hard and hurtful now , but I don’t wanna push him away so all I can do is just pray I suppose 😇😇
@@chyna942ify wheres the love for yourself in all that youve said, you can extend grace to this twin and give him time, but if youre really his twin, then its best for u to honor yourself first, and heal yourself, reckon in that he will come around. love yourself however
I'm definitely on this journey & have been since I met him December 2014 .. 2016 we lived together and 2017 I ended things and packed up his stuff. He always self sabataged .. was very much in his ego. Been separated for 4 yrs .. he has often came back and forth & we would spend time. Last time was march 2020 and he stayed the night. Then ghosted me, I gave him what for and shared every emotion. I was savage lol He went very quiet and now it is just starting to have a little contact 2 weeks ago today. But nothing since really
I PRAY THE UNIVERSE GRANT YOUR HEART ❤DESIRES WITH MORE LOVE AND COMMITMENT FROM YOUR EX ❤️ THROUGH THE SAME GREAT MAN OF THE UNIVERSE DR BABA,, WHO HELPED RESTORED MY BROKEN HOME. 🏠HE CAN MAKE YOUR EX BEG FOR A SECOND CHANCE
You're both running on some level. The runners can't come back because the chaser is pushing them away with their push energy. Take your power back and be the star in your own show. Love yourself! Everything else will fall into place then you will attract your so called twin or a higher soulmate that matches your frequency.
I PRAY THE UNIVERSE GRANT YOUR HEART ❤DESIRES WITH MORE LOVE AND COMMITMENT FROM YOUR EX ❤️ THROUGH THE SAME GREAT MAN OF THE UNIVERSE DR BABA,, WHO HELPED RESTORED MY BROKEN HOME. 🏠HE CAN MAKE YOUR EX BEG FOR A SECOND CHANCE
How can you be in a relationship alone though for so long??? I'm the DF but a male and my DM is an egotistical self serving sex addict with a drug addiction and so many abandonment issues that she refused to address the past hurt.
This is more to play with your inner soul and mind. Why would you go back to someone who was with you then left you to be with other people? You would actually take them back? I wouldn’t.
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@puretwinflames who is this new person that has taken over your channel? The person in this video is not the person doing Tarot readings currently
i was the chaser, i gave up, and moved on. He didn’t respond to my feelings, he didn’t open up. I could sense he liked me, and had feelings for me, but he kept it hidden. I struggle every day to move on with my life, i find it so hard to be happy, I miss him so deeply. I try to force me not to think about him, but my heart hurts and everything reminds me of him. i see car like his, or hear a song, and my heart skips a beat. sometimes i wish i had never met him. 🤷🏻♀️💕😔
Me too. I wished I’d never met her. I hate the universe for playing with me
i understand you soooo deep
Exactly.
the struggle 💔😓
Yes...same but I continue my journey with an open heart
I Use to be the chaser until I did my shadow work and put all the love I wanted from him into myself. Peace and Blessings🙏🏿
How or where do we even begin to do the shadow work?
@@Rosesraspberries72 Reiki working on your chakras I did that for years - energy healing, past life regression, inner child some modalities I’ve used - good luck 👍🌎😉
@@Rosesraspberries72 I used a lot of healing sleep meditations and also did a lot of work on my chakras. It helped sooooo much! I continue to do it every day and I’m in separation right now, but I am so at peace inside of me. Search TH-cam for healing sleep meditations ♥️
Teal swan
Desire and lust equals childhood or life/ past life trauma. Therefore, the reason why the twin flame triggers you.
When the chaser starts becoming aware of their own worth and stops chasing and starts inner work and finally their soul mission = Game over for masculines.. now they start facing tower moments and start going crazy coz they are losing control, which forces them to transform and become DM and finally start taking action..
Yes this where I am at now. I feel so much at peace and not focused on reuniting with my twin. More about my self love and started my business which is doing well. I am also traveling so I am living my life. If we come together or not, I will be okay either way.
@@EmeraldZzz-i keep it up dear! Stay blessed 👌🏼🙋🏽♀️💗
Here here! Amen
Yup, this is where I am now. I had to cut him off and make the sacrifice to focus on being ready for union. No more of this runner/chaser madness. It’s utter nonsense and only distracts from the deep work that is necessary for true harmonious union.
i agree but it’s game over for the feminine in my case. she can not balance the DM and DF inside her. something that must be balanced. please don’t assume that it’s all males
I can say it from my perspective, I was the chaser and I’m moving on. I needed to do it, it was suffocating me, stopping me from my purpose in life, I was focused on him all the time and I just walked away.
I'm not chasing or running I'm love being by myself
The phrase “by myself’ is actually such a beautiful combination of words. Being by your own side, being your own best friend, that someone who is by you is YOU and that is just such a great way of looking at those two words that more often than not have a more negative connotation.
Best thing to do anybody can think of...it's self first ❤️
Chaser that has now found a wonderful soulmate. Still feeling heartache but moving on.
Same...
Good for you! Wish you the best 🙏
How long it’s been with you and your soulmate and do you feel still heartache from your twin?
There is no twin flame. It was BPD or NPD person.@@SugaSuga008
That’s why I feel like the whole we will end up with a twin flame no matter what is kinda bs. It’s all free will. My twin flame can choose not to be with me at all and with someone else instead and that’s that for our twin flame journey.
I wish ppl will stop saying you might not be together this lifetime. If you met in this lifetime hell that’s when it’s gonna happen.
It's the people who have been on this "journey" for years that say that. And people looking to make profit. A lot of them seem to have been tricked by a narcissist. Its a tactic they use.
I believe that too!! too much upper chakras with no grounding. anyway only the really old ones maybe
Self respect stopped me from chasing. I depend on God and the universe to provide.
I depend on just God.
Same
Same here..
Same
Me too.
You are your twin flame. One soul, two bodies. Once you get connected to your soul, it’s all groovy. ❤️❤️🙏🏻
but i am connected to my soul
@@Letthesoulshine717 also true. I guess I meant once you recognize you are the soul, it’s all groovy ❤️
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Geez I'm tired hearing this kind of explanation...... yes I'm my twinflame...then why people keeps selling me the program to "get back twinflame" 🙄🙄🙄🙄duhhhh
@@kim6314 maybe it’s to “get back” your soul.
Which actually means awaken to the feeling that’s who you already are.
But I get it. There’s tons of folks out there with varying messages/programs, etc.
You do you. But New World All Star is the best one I’ve found to help get to inner peace. Not 100% there. But more there than I used to be! ❤️❤️
Chaser. It’s a mindset, the way I allow my mind to define what’s happening matters.
I’ll never Give Up, but rather I have Surrendered. Let happen what may, in its own timing. The sweetest fruit is allowed to ripen naturally.
Yes it’s in the sweetness of surrender 🍃🌹🍃🙏🏼
Beautiful comment. Thank you.
I'm experiencing this now.We could get a strong sense of intimacy and connection by connecting our hearts (heart chakra) with our twin flames' heart.I got a splendid flow of energy by doing so last night
When someone is a chaser for label times it's not a mindset that's not accurate at all. It's an energy until someone overcomes it. It's just like the runner for label terms until they go through it. It's not someone imagining it in their mind. It actually happens until they've went through. The mental and physical changes along with ascensions. Because you have more than one ascension. And more awakenings during the journey.
I was the Chaser but no longer, it's been about a year since last round of separation only this I put huge boundaries in place and cut contact, he has tried, his A-Hole behaviour was quite enough I realised I deserve everything wonderful that life has to offer. Now I put my energy and love into me.
The chaser, im ready to move on, and I am doing it, i can no longer wait for a gost,that may use the rest of his life to open up, cause he doesn’t dare to meet his fears and trauma
Exactly. If the other person will not do the inner work, there's nothing you can do but move forward with your own life. All the best to you.
Twin flames accelerate our soul’s growth and evolution 🌺
And sometimes twin flame experiences accelerate your death. I don't see myself loving anyone else. I will try. if the opportunity presents itself. I'm not looking for anyone though.
@@ewoodiemathis6309sounds like you are not twin flame, you were with a narcissist as a karma connection. All connections is created for us to learn lessons about ourselves. Twin flame does not accelerate your death, it does cause your internal death because you need to shad off all of the old self and let go of your ego. Twin flame is for soul growth and spiritual ascending. Not for death.
I chased so much, he ran right into the arms of someone else 😏😅 I laugh, but it's extremely painful.. he still reaches out to me and says he misses me.. but he married someone else, so.. all of this is very exhausting.. grateful for lessons learned, but I'm tired.. be well, folks.♥️
love and light to you
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Don’t give him anymore access to your energy. He dug his grave, now let him lie in it
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Actually he is not your twin flame because twins is not married other soul
I couldn’t take the pain and frustration. I had to end the chasing cycle, and move forward.
I was the chaser AND now i decide to move on AND love myself first. And Let go. We still talk but my aproach to the conection Is diferent. I am living this conexión to God AND moving on to start having somenthing solid in my life.
same feelings
This is video is the only one I’ve found to be authentic and real, thank you for this I’m in between having hope but moving on. I’ve detached so much that I’m okay with either outcome. If we’re meant to have union in this lifetime I’m okay with that, and if we’re not meant to come back together then I’m okay with that too. All I’m wanting to attract is balance. I release him so he can work on focusing on himself and his own growth. I don’t want the other him and I can’t say I want the new him because I don’t know that new person either. So there’s nothing I’m fully attaching to anyways. I wish him the best ✨
i was the runner, as a female. i just wasn’t ready. It frightened me so i ran far far away from him. I’m now at a place where i’m not running and i feel ready for this
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I am the chaser and I moved on, and ended up to many karmic partners. I didnt choose my twin flame. I didn't put her first. Sometimes I thought if I even have a twin flame.
But I do have, Randomly I feel her energy. And it only happened, when I was happy and very energetic about it. But Let me tell you: I needed the lessons with karmic partners. I didn't love myself. And i was seeking the happiness and love from others and not from deep inside of me. I forgot who i am. I was so lost long time. I wasn't ready for twin flame re-union. I needed to heal my wounds and love my self, and put myself first. Accept me who I really am. The main lesson is for me: Need to enjoy my life without other persons involved, codependency. I am Divine feminine and I miss my DM. I hope we will meet some day.
I finally surrendered after 15 years of emotional torment, pain, loss, obsession, and longing for my twin. I never felt so free in my life. I’m no longer interested and no longer desire the reunion ❤
How did you do it?
Hope u meant it
THIS TF JOURNEY IS A COMPLETE HOAX & HYPE & TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR VULNERABLITY. ✅️CUT OFF EVERYTHING WHICH DOESNT SERVE, I DID IT LONG AGO
Sometimes you need to let go so the runner can feel a lessening of your intense vibrations and get in touch with what's really happening for them. Of course it works both ways....it really is all about working on yourself- and about trusting God to do everything else- whatever the outcome.
I PRAY THE UNIVERSE GRANT YOUR HEART ❤DESIRES WITH MORE LOVE AND COMMITMENT FROM YOUR EX ❤️ THROUGH THE SAME GREAT MAN OF THE UNIVERSE DR BABA,, WHO HELPED RESTORED MY BROKEN HOME. 🏠HE CAN MAKE YOUR EX BEG FOR A SECOND CHANCE
What Sapp him now
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Unusually for the comments on here, I ran like hell... not to anybody else... just to escape the painful energy... in survival mode I guess. Over the years I've fully awakened both emotionally and spiritually. I've learned forgiveness and acceptance.. and humility. I hope my TF is happy and at peace and found love. Sending my love to all who have a similar connection
Disclaimer: TF journeys are always deeply personal, of course. 💟
In my own journey, I was the chaser, and while I gave my TF space, I never gave up on him. I did my shadow work & healed from my trauma that caused a rift before. From then on, I approached every interaction with him from a place of unconditional love rather than fear. There’s a balance to TF journeys; sometimes you may need to separate in order to heal. But if you both put in the inner work and are open to change, you may find your way back to each other-if it’s in the highest good for both of your journeys (and/or your TF journeys). ❤
Did you end up together?
I'm not chasing now I'm concentrating on myself
I'm a chaser so far and at a point of thinking it's really fucked up and I don't want any TF connection in my life. I want peace and back to the time before meeting him, no fuss, no drama. And then, deep inside, I know it's not true cos I love him unconditionally. So what's the point in moving on? It's not going to happen truly, I would have to kid myself on for the rest of my life. And what if he doesn't want any of it or union is not going to happen in this life? Waste of time. Yeah, I know, spiritual development, bla, bla, bla. Thanks, I can do that and I am doing that fine without any TF pain, suffering and drama.
I’m the chaser and finally gave up. I gave up once before and my runner came back, only to run again. He didn’t do any healing during our separation so nothing changed.
I will never give up on my journey ive come to far for that.. Its incredible what truly happens when you do take the steps your awakened soul leads you to take. I often wish you can truly express yourself without being misunderstood. I love my person whole entirely. i have dealt with so many of my wrongs and gotten right with myself and people in my life. Living a life of honesty and integrity. I have learned the value of unconditional love. i am an amazing writer and i have sent him messages of hope inspiration and love & have left the door open for him on many occasions. I don't even want to guess anymore were we stand. and it feels like unfinished business.. I wish him the very best at all times but i feel i need me right now. i was the chaser and choosing to not be the runner. You can have amazing relationship with person that demonstrates true non demanding love or one with fear. I am choosing love! from me to me.. Ty (fyi awakened for 3 years now)
@♡ and he can choose a million partners.. if that's what you mean by f others? that's his free will to choose..im living my best life with my heart wide open. i deserve big love if not him the divine will bring what i so rightfully deserve..Ty have a great day..
The chaser. I can't forget him, the synchronicities pile on.
So true!
If all you want is a Relationship, you should try finding someone else who is going to respond better and let go of this twin flame label. You’ll be more happier. You can have synchronicities with anyone, it’s not “twin flame” specific
@@docbrown7336 the label is irrelevant.
@@janebrown896 I’m aware
@@docbrown7336 and yet you insist on judging someone without knowing their story. Work on it, Doc.
Sometimes they force u to move on for real. I literally would have held on forever but I was forced to let go. So what can I even do?
I was the chaser and I think that maybe it’s just possible that there was no connection like I felt there was . Maybe the sex was only amazing to me and that when I looked at him I could see things in the future that I could only see because I was the only one wanting that shit . Either way I went crazy for over a year thinking about him everyday . It was making me physically Sick I couldn’t stop thinking about it and us . Finally one day I woke up and didn’t think about him I was good, then this fool messages me to tell me some shit he had no plans of doing and then blocked me AGAIN twin flames is bullshit just men with narcissistic attributes and don’t care for you like u wish . Just let it go and find someone who doesn’t make you wonder if your crazy because a person who is into you will be there to show you they want you and their efforts will be worth it . Sitting waiting for someone who isn’t gonna show up or show out is just u wasting time on yourself love . Be the best you so that if you ever see them again in flesh they can think DAMN I SHOULDNT OF LEFT THAT BEHIND
It doesn't matter chaser who knows runner who knows give upper that is known as saving life's of others! Being a giver instead of a taker!! That is me I care for others before myself!
I was the chaser. No more. I am determined never to run. However, my DM has told me that she chooses her (karmic) husband and that’s the life she wants and needs. I can no longer contact her in good conscience. I have not given up on hope or on us, but I have given up on trying. I met my DM 34 years ago and she is still running. After awakening to being a TF over 6 years ago and being on a healing journey for 5, I have no expectations as to whether we will be together within this lifetime. I’m inclined to think that it won’t happen for many years yet if so, however all possibilities are still on the table as I cannot rule anything out. This has been a very difficult journey. Thank you for this video. 🙏
EDIT: I now believe that the woman I thought was my DM was not my true twin flame, but a catalyst. Oh well. Now I'm letting go of her and opening myself up for my true twin flame. 🙏
@@WhimsicalLiving My DM and I have done a poor job of staying in touch... and she never really checked on me. I was always the one to contact her except for one time back in 1993. Part of me wonders if she really is my TF after all... but I am missing someone badly right now... it’s hard to believe it could be someone I haven’t met yet, so maybe I am right about my DM. I don’t know. Thanks for reaching out. 💖
@@yinyangphoenix I think the TF journey is really complicated and confusing. There are times when i really question it too. But that is the beauty of it. Whenever i start questioning it or doubting my intuition.. i start noticing so many synchronicities.. it is unreal! Guess we'll only know with time... wishing you all the very best in your journey and sending you lots of love and hugs and positivity ❣
@@WhimsicalLiving The Universe never does let me forget. Something always comes up. Her name, birthdate, area code, hometown, initials, mascot of the school where we met, and more have been long-time candidates for those signs. I wish you the best!
Thanks for sharing true and valuable experience 😊🙏
Ain't our DM should have become the catalyst to our healing journey?
Chaser here... TF is currently incarcerated and detoxing... I’m grateful for this time... so many lessons from this union, about myself... I’m loving on and holding myself real tight right now...🙏🥚🐛🦋
I know this is easily said than done but never put the runner on a pedestal, move on from them....you will be so much happier without them.....they have issues and if they wake up then it's up to them? I think once this energy is created by the chaser the runners life will fall apart, it will be meaningless and twice as much pain and suffering than they already feel!!!!! The chaser always wins with self-love......but these decisions always stem from the ego and lack of spiritual maturity in both bodies. Allow and except is easily said than done.....love always wins
Yes... just because one TF chooses to play games or lacks spiritual growth does not justify abandonment as to gain something. You'll just set yourself up for a back and forth never ending tit for tat. Relax meditate and send love ... no matter what send love. Love will win!
I'm the chaser.. I just can't see myself fully forgetting my runner ever. I know if I do...my mental health would improve and so I'm letting you up on the chase but....fuck it's so hard.
I've been both. He chased me I ran. Then he ran I chased him. We go back and forth. I'm trying to just let go and let God. It can be hard sometimes not to want to control the outcome!
I was the chaser..but I'm moving on....im at peace wit being wit out him..if itz meant it will b..but no more trying to force any love from Noone..im loving myself enough 😌
I have loved him for 8 years. He has blocked me now. I can no longer give anything to him. I find it very hard to be with another.
Just continue to grow spiritually and let Universe help you. I am sure something positive about this connection will take place according to the timing by the Universe.
@@PetraWang-c2u trying. One minute he comes closer then runs.
I once read that twins who've never had sex are much more likely to achieve Union. It gives me hope.
Interesting!! I’ve never even met him
@@honeybfly1980 You've never met who? Your twin?
Chaser and yesterday on the full moon and eclipse in Sagi something broke in me. I have waited and waited for him to come back but no more now. I have been in this depression for years now and now I am going to take care of myself. I have kept back from so many people and things stuck in his energy. But now I am going to live m6 life. Now if he wats to come back he has to give me time attention and speak the truth. In and out energy is not going to work for me now. Come whole or not at all. I am living my life.
Well said! It is too exhausting with that On/off energy! It saps the very "joy" out of you! If we "allow it", of course!
All the best to you...moving forward.🤗🕊️💐🌅🇬🇧
I am the chaser. But every time I tell him i give up he won't let go. I really want to end this
I used to be the chaser then i got fed up with it now i simply am. Just beig but this journey has unfolded the magic which residing within me.
The urge to give up is very strong in this sort of connection because the pain is so bad. As a chaser I am trying not to trouble the twin flame runner. I haven't contacted him in almost 7 years. My TF journey began 11 years ago. I tried to build a relationship with someone else but that almost relationship failed before it could begin and this happened because someone else influenced the person I was trying to move on with against me. It feels like I have failed in love. My health is failing too even though I am only 35. Feeling hurt, exhausted and alone.
I am sorry to hear that I am of similar age and experinced the same... It wasnt a twin or soulmate... You had relationship with BPD or NPD person. You went through idealization/devaluation/discard phase. Go read about it and prepare to be shocked. We literally suffer from ptsd after this stuff... I feel like I have bewn damaged so much and as you feel like I could never love again... IMO this is demonic stuff because only a devil could do such a thing...
@mrfatuchi You are so right. I took your advice and watched some videos on narcissism and more specifically narcissistic discards. I realize now that both of the men I was dealing with had shades of narcissism in them and were quite selfish and shallow in their considerations for partner selection. I should have just moved on and not lost good years of my life hoping that things would change and my peace of mind would be restored. To make matters worse my immediate family (parents) knew nothing of the situation for a long time because I was too afraid to tell them and they took me to a money guzzling psychiatrist to try and find out the cause of my behavior and I blurted out the truth to her thinking she could be trusted, but I got burnt badly by that experience. Not only did she betray my trust, she put me on powerful medication which left me zonked for the better part of a year. Things only looked up a little when I moved to another city and started a new life there. A psychiatrist was (and still is) engaged for my 'treatment' by my parents on the grounds that I suffered from persecutory delusions. I am very angry with my parents but there's little I can do. I follow this lady called 'Crappy Childhood Fairy' on TH-cam she's great at advice for PTSD sufferers. I suggest you watch them. She offers cold, hard logic in loving doses and has had a hand in my healing too.
@@scorpionbeatlesgirl87 My situation is different and much worse since it was because of me that breakup happened. The fact I later realized she has BPD doesnt change the fact that I did the wrong thing and never got the chance to asko for forgivness and make things right. Thats the part thats literally killing me because we had special bond and she is like miraculus being to me I will never move on from her. It was just terrible sequance of events and I was going through a terrible time in my life and literally looking back on it had no control of myself and my actions. I often wonder why why why was I being that way... The thing is its only after a breakup I sort of came out of trance and learned about my family, my siblings all have NPD. BPD and NPD are different and I hope to God she doesnt have NPD because thats incurable. The thing is we would have never lasted had I not learned about these things before because her instability woupd be puzzling to me at times. But again its all my fault and I cannot forgive myself and if only I had a chance to make things right... But even for normal person it would be a challange let alone someone with BPD, I basically caused her to split as they call it. If your partners were straight up NPDs just move on without looking back at all since they never cared for you at all. You were just vulnarable target for them. I am not gonna sit here and say we had a great chance of working out, no, it would have required alot of work and maturity ob ny part which I only possess now and didnt before. Thats the worst part, we had to go through this terrible breakup for us to even have a chance yet now she is seemingly gonne forever... It all comes to me in waves and I know time will only make it worse actually since it will only mean the hope is gone and I will have suicidal thoughts as I already do thinking of how it all went down... I just cant live with myself...
@mrfatuchi From what you're saying, I gather that you're racked by guilt and are teetering on a thin edge because of it. From where I stand, I see thay you have a couple of options. The first one would be to put a lot of distance between you and her and do some sort of meditation to calm your mind and move on. I know it's easier said than done but it could benefit you greatly. The second choice would be applicable if things are really unbearable and you can't stand to live without her, put your ego aside (and I am saying this as a bit of friendly advice not intended to hurt or insult you or her) go to her, apologize to her and be willing to go the distance to help the both of you become emotionally healthy again without becoming codependent. If she has by any chance, moved on then you have to accept it and try to get emotionally healthy yourself for the sake of yourself, others around you and even her. I was suicidal too but just too cowardly to actually execute my plans but now, even though things are far from perfect, I still feel that life is worth living and there are several paths to happiness and success. I don't want to lecture you or seem patronizing but I wish you all the best and I hope you find happiness and stability with or without your love interest.
@@scorpionbeatlesgirl87 Thank you very much. All of the advice I am cycling through on constant basis and some options are no longer available. Its all too fresh to let things go completely but I am trying to put things aside in sort of stasis since I have immediate problems in my life to deal with. If she contacts me again and gives even a hint of possible contact again I will confess everything(even thoigh I tried before she wanted none of it). Butbif she doesnt contact me in next few months I will probably gather courage to contact her and see how she is doing to feel things out(I say gather courage since she said she wants no contact). Ans eventually if all hope is lost I will have to just accept reality. As you did. Painful as itbis I guess thats life for some of us... Thank you and I wish you the best also.
true. thanks for saying that it might not happen in this lifetime. i was the chaser and it was so real. all the magic and synchronicities before we met and me focusing only on spirituality not even wanting a partner. but once i saw her, i knew. and with all the telepathy and the pulling i had felt, i finally understood. but traumas that your ultimate mirror opens. she ran and i chased like a foolish teenager. it took many years but i finally gave up even though i feel her every day. i sense all of it and don’t want to. but now, i choose to live. surrender, let go and pick this up in the next lifetime. you can’t cut it but you can separate yourself from the feelings and the telepathy. you are your own divine being. even though we are both single 10 years later and neither of us has been in a serious relationship since. i choose life and am now finally open to a divine counterpart. preferably one that has experienced this themselves. surrender, let go and live.
As a reformed "chaser" that chose to stop, it has NOTHING to do with being unaware of the relationships power or the significance of the mission.
It had to do with lines being crossed by them and their horde of sexual deviants hacking my phone and trying to tamper with my energy.
Can only take so much for so long til you place them in the mud where they want to be.
Everyone chats the same shit over and over but has never dealt with the extreme versions of twin flame/empatb psychopaths. Plus the perverse use of sexual energy? Some of these others saying they'll wait forever and take them back no matter what are just desperate and poorly informed.
That mentality shows no self worth or the ability to set boundaries. Runners look at that behavior as a free pass to continue their often disgusting lifestyle cause they don't see a fence up when they do their check ins to see if you're still a dumbass waiting for them.
I generally just don’t want to be in contact with her anymore
I don’t know what to do no more iv been rejected over and over and over till I can’t do it no more it hurts I wish I never met them cus I love them so much I just wanna move on and stop thinking about them
Spiritual healing and meditation. Try looking into Eckhart Tolle 's books or TH-cam videos.
"The Power of Now" is really good.
I hope you feel better.
Same
Stop chasing. Let her miss YOU.
I was the chaser in 2018 but I finally gave up and moved on 3 years later I was engaged to someone else and my twinflame returned and I turned her down for the one I was with but sadly this year is one year later me and my twinflames was in separate relationships and both ended up getting cheated on and left for someone else but now me and my twin are friends again and hang out I just seen her 2 days ago
Wow!!! What’s the update now!?
Was you thinking about your twin flame the whole time you was engaged or did that help your mind to move on at that moment?
What a timely message
Yesterday in a healing session I asked if I should move (chaser masculine) and according to the guidance the answer was no
And then this pops up on the algorithm today
I bumped to him again after 7 years on the street and ran away from fear😓And the first time he ran without any information. We just glimpse each other but damn he changed my life a lot. Not sure how to meet him again💔
Wow! That's amazing how you met up randomly like that. All the best to you.
Thank You, Beautiful Soul, VERY MUCH from a Chaser who is Definitely growing Weary of ALL Chasing...Starting to Wonder what IF I Completely Let Go and Focus on My Mission...the Truth of His Heart will then Reveal...❤️
Chaser here. Year 4. I'm beyond tired.
How's it going now??
Chaser, finally stopped. No contact.
I am the chaser, I released him with love and then pulled a called for him and it said “mercy”. I will pray for him 🤍
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I'm a DF in the TF journey. I need the separation was needed. I needed to balance the confusion from the runner. I miss her constantly. I don't see myself being a runner or chaser. I just knew our separation was needed. I've told the universe that when it's time, she'll return. All I keep hearing (internally) patience, compromise and forgiveness. All the time. Yet, I don't hear to just give up.
I was the chaser but I stopped. Now he’s chasing.
We both doing both …it’s push pull push pull .. we keep trying to give up but it’s almost impossible !! It’s still there energetically I can’t seem to get over xx it’s a mare !! We both in other long term relationships
He wanted to break up and I simply detached.. I didn’t know how to respond and still haven’t. So now we’re in complete separation in the 3D.. but I still feel very connected to him, and he visits my dreams to “check” on me . I miss him more than anything, but Ik my own personal healing is most important rn
Runner here… I don’t chase even when we switched roles. I work on myself upon meeting himz now we don’t communicated in 3D but we always talk in our minds. i thought I was going insane until I knew someone went thru the same journey as me.
If we feel strongly that doesn't mean they want you. Sometimes you wonder how someone could lie and say they feel the same as you and waste nearly 9 years of your time and heart. I really dont know.
Beautiful question. Sometimes people aren't "right" meaning they are mentally ill, they're not processing emotions correctly, they're not reacting "normally", etc. Sometimes it's better not to analyze it so much and to just move on...easier said than done.
Omg !!!!! I know this voice !!! Maam how incredible is the Universe that it should answer me through your voice. I felt lonely and alone thinking am i the only one in my society or country going through this ! I wished so many times i had someone to talk to or listen to that what i was going through was not madness. Universe has delivered !!! I am so sos so so blown away. Seriously a figure i really admire and respect is the guiding voice here. This means so much !!! Thank u thank u thank u R maan. 🙏🙏🙏. Love u !!
I chased 8 years not 1 reply from him in that time. Just blocked for a 2nd time. Now I have a soulmate who is a woman who I love but I know I love my tf more. Idk what to do but I don't want to lead or mislead anyone.
It’s hard to fully let your twin flame go I heard we can never fully depart from them. How is it going now?
@@SugaSuga008 still no contact. No longer concerned. Moving forward ✨️
Well for me..... I love myself. I've realized I have n amazing life.... And the best is yet to come. It's tricky because I share. Child with my TF (never herd any advice about that too). But I'm building my wall and setting boundaries. Im done. I love myself. I deserve better. Him being my TF is not a license to keep hurting me. Enough.!!!!!!!
I am stuck between a twinflame runner and a soul mate who returned from my past
My biggest fear 🥴😂
Me too..
@@carolinetilling3482 I am releasing my soul mate. He has a kid and narcissist baby mama.... I cannot deal with that, no matter how much we have harmony have on a soul level.
@@deepdiver849 did you ever get back with your twin flame?
@@SugaSuga008 nope with neither twin nor soul mate
Honestly this twin flame mess I wouldn’t wish on nobody but the it’s actually true. After 6 months of dealing with this I’m done. This makes our 3rd split. Our first was for 3 months , the second was like 2-3 weeks and Now today. I’m tired of chasing even though I never considered myself a chaser but it is what it is. But tired of the rollercoaster of emotions the inconsistency and lack of communication. I asked for a soulmate and ended up with this… I really don’t care if he comes back at this point I don’t care how many days or years. You can’t make a person see your value and if I can take the time to heal then why can’t he? Time waits for no one and life is to short. Either get on the boat or you gone miss it…period.
When the chaser moves on, the other feels relief because the life is unconditional. If you choose something else, it’s very healthy if the chaser and everyone move on. It’s my experience.
I can't pause my own spiritual from my runner being gone. I need to grow up too, while they figure it out. Hell parts of my own pain, caused the separation. I'm done dealing with old pains of abandonment, and being chosen last. I gotta choose me, and just be okay with whatever happens.
I will stop chaseating and look after my self but i won't take another i love my soul you are doing a great work thank u
Thank you
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I guess they are not a twin flame if they don't want to be with us. I guess it's also possible one person can have strong feelings and the other person feels nothing. I'm done with my person. I can hope she comes back to me but that will never happen. She has too many issues and prefers to be alone and obviously doesn't see me that way.
Life is too short for TF journies. I prefer to see that we have all we need in our 3D world to grow our souls. TFs are just another form of our Shadow. The runner is delivering opportunities to do the shadow work. Ive been both the chaser and the runner. I wish my runner well, although hes a jerk, a snob, and I would live in a kind of prison if we were together.
Wow. I love this comment and you make a really good point about living in a prison if you were together. I feel the same way. All the best to you.
I've been the chaser. 12 1/2 years. He says I'm his best friend and he loves me. I'm tired of waiting, and he has made no progress. Met someone who is interested, thinking of dating just to see if I feel the same about my TF.
Cool
How’s it going?
Realized that chaser/runner dynamics are a big waste of time and mental energy. Just focus on doing your purpose in the world. If you needed them to fulfill your purpose, God would put them there. There's no need to chase anybody.
There is now "spiritual growth". Spirit knows everything. Spirit lives in the no-time, the so called eternity. There is no advandege in pain. The twin flame fairytale tells you that you must stop letting in your life people who misstreat you, narcissistic psychos, and sociopaths. That is the "lesson". No mental sick people should take control over naive people. That is the lesson. No growth, but lessons that keep you from falling into the same trap again. Yes, twin flame fairytale helps you not to treat yourself badly again letting that kind of pople in your life again, because you didnt love yourself letting them in: they were toxic and unhealthy, and this world in now full of those, so be careful next time, very careful and wise.
Chaser here but no longer. Moving on.
I gave up after a considerable amount of time, but I don't feel bad as others. I feel it was the right decision. I just ended up feeling burnt out and don't feel very motivated towards romantic relationships and I feel I'm still resting. I don't know about this video. Maybe the twin flame wasn't really a twin flame. I don't blame people who do this, but I feel being attached towards the wrong people can be very self-destructive and sometimes it's better to let go completely.
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The fact this video popped up as soon as I told myself I’m done chasing this girl even though we basically best friends 😂😂😂 if it’s ment to be it’ll happen other than that ima stick to myself and continue to work on my future
since he is married, being together is impossible..
I’m doing the abandonment and codependency inner work. I’ve looped a few times. I have to give up and be in my core self for a bit, get used to it, new behaviors, beliefs and habits
I’m moving on bc He’s in a relationship he doesn’t want to be honest in. So I stepped up and told her (for the second time in 6mo) he’s in love with me. Even with proof she doesn’t want to see. I’ve done what I thought was right. I will always love my TF yet will not put up with his behavior anymore.
Let me know in the comments if you are the runner or the chaser
Same
Chaser .but I'm moving on.for now .im at peace..wit being without him
Chaser I believe
I've been the chaser but....i kinda wanna run.......whew.......so tired of trying to make it happen when he won't talk about feelings........maybe it isn't him?
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Similar situation
Best to you
I’d advise not to give yourself those labels
Was the chaser, now I’m the runner - but also, I’ve detached
Same!
I feel my situation is much more unique which is not easily categorized...
Anyone that causes you to chase them are detracting from you self respect. There is NO proof they love you , but, there is proof they don't. There are TF but those are spiritually advanced souls. , not one sided poor souls who love someone who couldn't care less. LOVE GOD AND SELF, AND TO HELL AND THE DEVIL WITH ANYONE WHO CANT SEE THE GREATNESS IN YOU !! In your heart you know I'm right. Strength and Honor.
was the chaser, stopped chassing
100% accurate 👌🏾
Imo it’s all divinely orchestrated, all you have to do is sit back, work on yourself, and your higher selves will line it all up. Chasing and pushing gets us nowhere anyways so allow the process, trust the advanced intelligences know exactly the right way to get you in the right place at the right time. If it’s meant to be it’ll happen!
We have alternated
In the last few years ive chase hes chased
But now ive withdrawn completely because betrayal is no longer something i want served as my main dish for my life …
He continually refused to commit and wanted to sleep around …
Im done
Hes begged tracked me down only to revert back to his ways once i gave in and gave my love again … at this point I dont know if this is a twin flame situation or a narcissist… im exhausted
I think my twin flame is a narcissist. Don’t give in anymore and turn that love on yourself. He won’t change unless he do the work… mine kept telling me he’ll change and I had to live myself more than I love him in order to move on.
In the chaser now and honestly I might just give up 😭 he’s been ignoring me for months . Barely talks to me , barely acknowledges my presence . Probably talking to other women . It just hurts, how long do you wait for someone who doesn’t even seem to care about you
Oh bless you, but you have "answered" your own question really?...
You don't! Easier said than done, I know, but be busy with yourself.
My beautiful late Mother would say..."You can't miss what you never had"
She was SO wise. 🦉
Occupy yourself with other "interests" Friends, family? Get in touch with nature, walks in countryside? By water? Cry, 😢, if / when you need to? Then pick yourself up, dust yourself down and move forward. It will get easier and you'll "love yourself" and feel proud at your inner strength 💪
In the words of "George Benson"(singer) "Love will come again, it will captivate you like before. Love will come again, wait and see"🎵🎶
All the best to you! And everyone else that maybe nursing a 💔🤗🇬🇧
@@shezphillips868 I always get readings done about him hoping one day he’ll let his guard down and we’ll become friends again and I wouldn’t have just had this one experience Of true love when I was young and dumb and didn’t appreciate him . That well become friends again like we used to and talk about marriage and our hopes and dreams ... it’s so hard and hurtful now , but I don’t wanna push him away so all I can do is just pray I suppose 😇😇
@@chyna942ify wheres the love for yourself in all that youve said, you can extend grace to this twin and give him time, but if youre really his twin, then its best for u to honor yourself first, and heal yourself, reckon in that he will come around. love yourself however
Agree before im a chaser now the runner become a chaser 😂
i have moved on with the blessing of him
Hope i can find a good soulmate that worthy of me
soon
Ima let go and see what happens lol.
I'm definitely on this journey & have been since I met him December 2014 .. 2016 we lived together and 2017 I ended things and packed up his stuff. He always self sabataged .. was very much in his ego. Been separated for 4 yrs .. he has often came back and forth & we would spend time. Last time was march 2020 and he stayed the night. Then ghosted me, I gave him what for and shared every emotion. I was savage lol
He went very quiet and now it is just starting to have a little contact 2 weeks ago today. But nothing since really
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You're both running on some level. The runners can't come back because the chaser is pushing them away with their push energy. Take your power back and be the star in your own show. Love yourself! Everything else will fall into place then you will attract your so called twin or a higher soulmate that matches your frequency.
I PRAY THE UNIVERSE GRANT YOUR HEART ❤DESIRES WITH MORE LOVE AND COMMITMENT FROM YOUR EX ❤️ THROUGH THE SAME GREAT MAN OF THE UNIVERSE DR BABA,, WHO HELPED RESTORED MY BROKEN HOME. 🏠HE CAN MAKE YOUR EX BEG FOR A SECOND CHANCE
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How can you be in a relationship alone though for so long??? I'm the DF but a male and my DM is an egotistical self serving sex addict with a drug addiction and so many abandonment issues that she refused to address the past hurt.
Imma keep it real John sprit not gonna put a sex and drug addict in your life that’s not a twin flame
I was the 'chaser'.. I am now just being.. N❤️
Yup, we switched. A very strange dynamic. I felt it became toxic to me, so I ended our communication. It is VERY difficult.
This is more to play with your inner soul and mind. Why would you go back to someone who was with you then left you to be with other people? You would actually take them back? I wouldn’t.
Neither. Just glad people are able to get all this exercise in spite of the pandemic....
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