Great Players of the Past: Mikhail Tal

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  • Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... GM Ben Finegold discusses four games of Mikhail Tal as part of the Great Players of the Past series. This lecture was recorded January 28, 2020, at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Atlanta (CCSCATL) in Roswell, Georgia. Originally posted on the CCSCATL Channel on January 31, 2020. So yes, you've probably seen this one before.
    8:22
    Tal, Mikhail vs. Fischer, Robert James
    Bled-Zagreb-Belgrade Candidates (1959)
    18:22
    Gurgenidze, Bukhuti vs. Tal, Mikhail
    USSR Championship (1957)
    29:13
    Tal, Mikhail vs. Tringov, Georgi
    Amsterdam Interzonal (1964)
    34:29
    Tal, Mikhail vs. Petrosian, Tigran V.
    8th Soviet Team Cup (1974)
    Recorded at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Atlanta on November 6, 2018 and originally posted on the CCSCATL Channel on April 16, 2019. So yes, you've probably seen this one before.
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    Intro and concluding music: “Da Jazz Blues,” by Doug Maxwell; • Da Jazz Blues - Doug M... . Thank you Doug!
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  • @notsogoodduck5580
    @notsogoodduck5580 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    Ben: "who did petrosian beat to become world champion?"
    Kid: "uhhh... you?"
    Ben: "close"

    • @chanky1000
      @chanky1000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't know which answer was more hilarious - ben or magnus

  • @DrMocktopus1
    @DrMocktopus1 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    “Fischer wouldn’t play that now, you know what the reasons are? He’s not alive.”😂😂

    • @thomaswyss5828
      @thomaswyss5828 ปีที่แล้ว

      But his spirit, the spirit in which he played and understood is not. I use it as a chesstrainer.

    • @thomaswyss5828
      @thomaswyss5828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fisher was but a kid then. When Fischer is hyped, it is the 68-72 period..

    • @_nemo171
      @_nemo171 ปีที่แล้ว

      Classical Finegold.🤣😂🤣

    • @briliantinoprihandikakhari6754
      @briliantinoprihandikakhari6754 ปีที่แล้ว

      the kids were silent LOL

  • @xibal3405
    @xibal3405 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Your sense of humor will never get old

    • @bhargavabhat9227
      @bhargavabhat9227 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It will never be shown in the great humor of the past

    • @attaynez6043
      @attaynez6043 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bhargavabhat9227 cuz it will always be the best

  • @tonyennis1787
    @tonyennis1787 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    When Tal was ill and in the hospital, Fischer was the only chess player who visited. he brought Tal some chess books to read.

    • @GraemeCree
      @GraemeCree 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah, Fischer wanted to make sure he was really sick, and not up to something.

    • @madanalym4165
      @madanalym4165 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GraemeCree😂😂

  • @SeddincY
    @SeddincY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    37:24 "And then he moved his pawn back, and they agreed to a draw."
    His delivery of that line as if it's something that really happened really made me cracked up. Ben never fails combining chess and comedy. I just love it

    • @EvilSt0ner
      @EvilSt0ner หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The kid going Noooooooo had me laughing

  • @civil_leuthie
    @civil_leuthie ปีที่แล้ว +25

    8 minutes in, thinking "I swear I've heard this before" then I finally read the description. Kinda feel cheated, but watching the rest of it anyway.

    • @Evilanious
      @Evilanious ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Always repeat!

    • @nicholasdupont9097
      @nicholasdupont9097 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah I was so hyped for more tal (and more fischer a couple weeks prior!)

  • @arnislapsa1619
    @arnislapsa1619 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    greetings from Latvia, Ben!

  • @MordimersChessChannel
    @MordimersChessChannel ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The second game was played with white pieces by Hanging Pawns couple of months ago as his training. His opponent was probably the happiest person ever for getting into this variation :)

  • @siIverspawn
    @siIverspawn ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Took me several seconds to parse the Obi-van Benoni R2D2 joke. No chance to do that in real time.

  • @tiagohello
    @tiagohello ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thank you so much! ❤

  • @joeybashaw3909
    @joeybashaw3909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Tal was the chess Doc Holliday. "I'm your Huckleberry.."

  • @1010tuta
    @1010tuta ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We absolutely love your lectures ben!

  • @swettyf745
    @swettyf745 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    the hozier joke was genius

  • @tobiass3540
    @tobiass3540 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would love to see a lecture about Ivanchuk. Some great attacking games to pick from. I know, he is still playing, but he was also playing in the past, so maybe that still works :)

  • @filipsand3290
    @filipsand3290 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Ben, great lecture..

  • @briliantinoprihandikakhari6754
    @briliantinoprihandikakhari6754 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "He used to be young, oh, maybe that's not Tal" LMAO

  • @haroldbeck4351
    @haroldbeck4351 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For Ben's 'Great Players of the Present series it would be a lot of fun, if he did an episode on his old nemesis Ginger GM Simon Williams.

    • @Chris.4345
      @Chris.4345 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he’s about to haha

  • @yosefcohen483
    @yosefcohen483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    27:13 is beautiful - the white rook that is about to be taken with 'check', is the piece supporting the queen to give mate. Rooks are good support beams.

  • @nicholasdupont9097
    @nicholasdupont9097 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    god dammit, got so excited for an ostensibly new Tal lecture.

  • @gavinjones8543
    @gavinjones8543 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that domination of Fischer by good'ol zugs!.. Im sure he took it well and congratulated Tal like a true gentleman.

  • @Al.2
    @Al.2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    23:08 I love it 😂

  • @GraemeCree
    @GraemeCree 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One problem with Tal is that whenever he suffered any kind of reverse, people automatically blamed his health. Like when Polugaevsky knocked him out of the 1980 Candidates, everybody said "Oh, Tal must be sick again." It wasn't until the internet let you look it up and see that Tal was only +2-8=22 against Polugaevsky lifetime that you start to think maybe Polugaevsky did win that match fair and square after all.

  • @footyking265
    @footyking265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lecture!

  • @RobinZuFALL
    @RobinZuFALL ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please make an episode about Ding and nepo before the world championship

    • @kylemenos
      @kylemenos ปีที่แล้ว

      Probelm is Ding is a great player of the present not the past.

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.3289 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    19:24 "If you play the Obi-Wan Benoni, you should play R2 to D2. Right? You agree? Say 'no'."

  • @StratteraCapsules
    @StratteraCapsules ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this reuploaded? I feel like I watched this awhile ago? Very memorable lecture!

  • @PsychedelicRealities
    @PsychedelicRealities ปีที่แล้ว

    Go Ben!

  • @scottscheule
    @scottscheule ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I know I’ve seen it before. I don’t care. I’m going to watch and pretend it’s new.

  • @Dropbear2024
    @Dropbear2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had this position many times but never at the same time 💀never change ben

  • @asileris2804
    @asileris2804 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are the man Ben, thanks for this

  • @Alex-xk6md
    @Alex-xk6md 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Haha this guy is veey entertaining, love the dry humor, also loved your overview of english positions in yasser matches

  • @Halibut86
    @Halibut86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tal is the man!
    My only question would be if he is actively looking for these long sequences resulting in forced mate / loss of material every move or if this was rehearsed preparation

    • @michaels4255
      @michaels4255 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe some preparation, but probably not all. Sometimes Tal's attacks were later found to be unsound (which suggests those attacks at least were not prepped), but the positions were so complex that his opponents could not find the defense in time control.

  • @brianjacob8728
    @brianjacob8728 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that stare after the putative queen sac on the pawn was CLASSIC. lmao.

  • @FrankBakulov
    @FrankBakulov ปีที่แล้ว

    19:30 Obi van Benoni & R2D2 is another brilliant joke from Ben Finegold.

  • @MrHeroicDemon
    @MrHeroicDemon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ahh I love ben's teaching style, and explaining fast rather than slow at times with humor. Always thanking him for shortening and having a laugh. They should pay this guy.
    I love tal's style, It's my favorite, I regularally do piece sac's for pawns to open the king for a good attack.
    I did it twice in a row, 3 piece sac, bishop bishop knight, and bishop knight and rook, both into check mates with queen. Very awesome feeling, but its on lichess, dont hate me.

  • @shikaru1730
    @shikaru1730 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You said you read alot of tal books as a kid, did you ever read tals winning chess combinations by tal and victor khenkin? Thoughts on the book if you have?

    • @roqsteady5290
      @roqsteady5290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had that book. Not sure how much Tal had to do with it though. Was a competent tactics book.

  • @yosefcohen483
    @yosefcohen483 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just like lady gaga - Tal was born sick.
    Thx GM Finegold.
    Any other pop-stars references?
    You're so awesome. Not half as awesome as your nemesis - GingerGM, but still.

  • @survivaloftheidiots6239
    @survivaloftheidiots6239 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ben is on fire as of late

    • @johnjable33
      @johnjable33 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Is this a joke, or are you lucky enough to be viewing these lectures for the first time?

  • @srinivasarameshkotikalapud1838
    @srinivasarameshkotikalapud1838 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How much is it to sponsor a lecture?

    • @GMBenjaminFinegold
      @GMBenjaminFinegold  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Email Karen@atlchessclub.com for info on sponsoring lectures! - Ben’s Editor

  • @alhfgsp
    @alhfgsp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im sitting here snickering at those relentless puns.

  • @MatthewThornhillTheDoctor
    @MatthewThornhillTheDoctor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i watch your videos to remind me that i am bad at chess. thanks!

  • @innosanto
    @innosanto หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lets do all great players again

  • @roqsteady5290
    @roqsteady5290 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:30 Plus score against almost everyone, except Korchnoi.

  • @dw3yn693
    @dw3yn693 ปีที่แล้ว

    My GOAT

  • @kevinstrand4596
    @kevinstrand4596 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mainly and so forth

  • @randyreal5871
    @randyreal5871 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Claw 😀

  • @gosukiwi
    @gosukiwi ปีที่แล้ว

    haha I love when he stares at the camera

  • @vorpalinferno9711
    @vorpalinferno9711 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Who wants to see Tal vs Doofus?

  • @luke46219
    @luke46219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:32 maybe that's not Tal... yeah, I think it was Short.
    I'll see myself out.

  • @paulmitchell5349
    @paulmitchell5349 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Tal 's magic has never been replicated. Not even Fischer. Too much of cigarettes or booze or food can kill a person early.............................Ben.

    • @h0wnr681
      @h0wnr681 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It's okay, I don't think Ben eats cigarettes

    • @_nemo171
      @_nemo171 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except for one thing.

    • @gustafcederborg9744
      @gustafcederborg9744 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @vibovitold
      @vibovitold หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Not even Fischer"
      I'm not sure about that "even". This wasn't Fischer's playing style at all. Fischer steered towards clear cut, "rational" positions. He didn't particularly like speculative, hyperaggressive play. He didn't appreciate Alekhine, for example ("in a sense his whole method of play was a mistake").

  • @davidgoble8891
    @davidgoble8891 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really enjoy Ben's dry humor 😂

  • @pirds102010
    @pirds102010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobodys laughing, but I do often :D

  • @imaginitivenickname6770
    @imaginitivenickname6770 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wouldn’t see the hanging pawn 30:20

  • @nicholasdupont9097
    @nicholasdupont9097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy hell 37:34

  • @andriyandriychuk
    @andriyandriychuk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wizard from Riga!

  • @inspectorlunge3887
    @inspectorlunge3887 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    27:28

  • @davidgriffiths7696
    @davidgriffiths7696 ปีที่แล้ว

    Botvinnik I knew it

  • @GraemeCree
    @GraemeCree 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mednis labeled 12... Bf6 as the losing move.

  • @animalntelligence3170
    @animalntelligence3170 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do we know that Tal's hand was not the next step in evolution? How can you simply call a physical characteristic of the possessor of one of the greatest minds in history a "deformity" ?? I am serious.

    • @animalntelligence3170
      @animalntelligence3170 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willywonka7812 I did say I was serious and if the "next stage in evolution" thing was somewhat fanciful, I see no reason to bring up something that the World Champ found embarassing. He was a very great man who overcame a lot to create some beautiful chess and I who among us is perfect physically let alone mentally?

    • @animalntelligence3170
      @animalntelligence3170 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willywonka7812 someone calling him "The Claw" meant to be offensive. My last word.

    • @vibovitold
      @vibovitold หลายเดือนก่อน

      what would be the benefit of this mutation?
      why would natural selection favor it?
      if there is a good reason, then it will favor it, and the mutation is going to become prevalent in the gene pool.
      that's how you find out if something is beneficial or not.
      what we do know is that it hasn't happened over the last 200 thousands years or so,.

  • @xaosIncorporeal
    @xaosIncorporeal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harry Nelson Pillsbury, short lived but certainly an American genius between Morphy and Fisher

    • @GraemeCree
      @GraemeCree 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was a world class player, certainly. I don't know if that makes him a genius, though (other world class players will tell you it does). Of course, these days, doing "this" before you borrow from the bank is genius, so the whole concept of genius has been dumbed down somewhat.

  • @Ericapires12
    @Ericapires12 ปีที่แล้ว

    TAl🎉

  • @pirds102010
    @pirds102010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "He looked like he died a few years ago" Haha :D

  • @unjust7156
    @unjust7156 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ben, I just got banned on your Twitch stream after sending my very *first* message, which was "play moore".
    That was during your break, after your 20-0 streak on today's Titled Tuesday.(grats btw, loved every second even tho I was banned)
    I requested an unban, but nothing.
    Just wanted to let you know your mods aren't very nice.
    'Capeych' was my username.

    • @nicholasdupont9097
      @nicholasdupont9097 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got banned years ago for inviting him to join my Krazy Knights Klub.

  • @brianerpelding
    @brianerpelding 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's the move you would have played,right? Ya 😅

  • @riverajavieri
    @riverajavieri 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤🤭👏👏👍👍

  • @camreese
    @camreese ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Repost

    • @_nemo171
      @_nemo171 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Confusing the audience.

  • @electorofsaxony7646
    @electorofsaxony7646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Instant click

  • @nimzomitch
    @nimzomitch ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mmmm consolidation content! Etcetera.

    • @_nemo171
      @_nemo171 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mainly etcetera.

  • @timothymiller806
    @timothymiller806 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1.25x Ben is pretty chipper

  • @lukemarks3281
    @lukemarks3281 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ben crappin on tal way too much there to start it off lol

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    50k in 1988 was equal to 130k in 2023.

  • @scottrackley4457
    @scottrackley4457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gonna admit, the first videos I didn't particularly take to your delivery. Then you aged well and I got the joke. Well, not exactly well, you need to go up a shirt size.

  • @kerryfry1857
    @kerryfry1857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like smoking ❤

  • @Derkalerk
    @Derkalerk ปีที่แล้ว

    Tal was white.
    Thank you capn obvi

  • @conradnoel
    @conradnoel ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry but this is like watching paint dry….

  • @gavinjones8543
    @gavinjones8543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great lecture wasted on an audience of children... Maybe thats where the acerbic, sense of humour developed!?..