Velma - This Isn't Funny [Re-Up]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2023
- Velma has debuted on HBO Max and somehow managed to fall beneath our lowest expectations. Besides being unfunny, its humour is fundamentally cruel, spiteful & bitter. If a teenage boy had written it, we'd call him an incel.
[This is a re-upload of a video that got 250k views in a day. Someone at HBO manually copyright claimed a segment that was clearly fair use and got the video taken down. TH-cam's recommended edit then slashed 28 minutes out of this 31 minute video. In short, I was screwed, and I'd appreciate all the help available to regain what I lost.
And, because they tried to F me, I shall make another video F-ing them.]
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The sad irony is that the original "Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?" was kicked off because a certain population of loud parents allegedly complained that they wanted some family friendly cartoons that juxtaposed what they saw as "violent superhero cartoons". And yet, here we are. A violent, narcissistic, and racist cartoon where two of the main characters actively deal drugs to kids, kids have their brains removed, kids are shot, run over by a car, and sexualized. Oh how far we've "progressed".
Pin this. Facts.
For me, the original Scooby Doo cartoon is a product of the hippie generation of the 60s and 70s, from the name and design of the Mystery Machine, the fact that it's okay for teens / young adults to travel the country by themselves in a van unsupervised (both men and women together, I may add), general themes of friendship and having a good time, and so on. The villains in Scooby Doo mysteries in contrast tend to be scheming and cynical adults who scare and threaten their victims for money and stuff, essentially the way hippies saw politicians and capitalists during that time.
In our modern day and age however, the culture is a lot less independent and much more materialistic and spiteful. It is more important to the current youth to attain social media clout and money than to just spend time with friends and explore outside your own echo chamber, so "Velma: is more a representation of our current generation than the hippie culture that inspired Scooby Doo in the first place. All the characters are obnoxious and trying one-up each other in a futile bid to be the best, there is little teamwork or friendship between them, the constant meta-jokes takes the audience out of the experience, and it is more a reflection of Mindy Kaling's bitterness than Scooby Doo. It's actually funny: the debunking-supernatural investigations working as predecessors to Scooby Doo actually had violence and murder and casual racism (see "The Horror at Cut-Off Cove" by Frank Belknap Long), and Political Correctness has somehow managed to revive those unsavory aspects back into our media today.
Its funny that the "progression" has just been flipping the roles of racism.
If all races can freely shit on white people than I'm fully within my rights to reciprocate that back to them. Ya get what ya give
@@TommasoFirmini For some reason your reply showed up in my email and alerts, but when I go to the comments section through the video itself I don't see it.
@@Gunnberg85 well that's strange 😂
You know you've done a great job when the companies try to supress your work in which you critique them
Preach
God forbid anyone who is seriously interested in long form critiques such as platoon makes. Seems interesting that large producer companies are seriously concerned that long form 30min to 2 hour analysis is really going to impact their attention deprived customer base.
@@phantomhck ?
Who the hell was removing the women's brains?
Why the hell would they be removing the brains?
What are they doing with them?
Like mauler and his Jurassic park review
Fun fact - Mindy came from a rich privileged household. She has more in common with Fred than her own insert.
Projection is fun :D
Mindy grew up with rich parents, never worked a day job & was handed a Hollywood job through her parents contracts & influences. So when she wrote Fred as a spoiled rich kid with no soul. Yeah i can definitely see she's really writing herself. This is what we in the business call "The Projection" & a classic Freudian Slip.
The saddest part is, after this epic failure she'll continue to fail upwards and be handed more shows to fail with. Eventually she'll be running Disney and do even more damage than Kathleen Kenedy.
This comment is on point. My take on Kaling is that she was jealous of the popular girls in high school. She felt like an outsider and wanted to be one of the cool kids but was never accepted and never got over the rejection.
On the other hand she has this weird “privilege” guilt that the w°ke have instilled in her having been born into a wealthy & connected family. She’s a walking contradiction essentially.
She spent her most formative sexual years at Dartmouth, a bunch of Freds was all there was
Yups. ):
@@fuzzypanda1684Does anyone know why this works today and didn‘t work 20 years ago??
“Tall handsome guys with the struggle of having more power”
Mindy abused her power to sexually harass a “tall handsome guy” coworker.
Yup, you can't fight misogny with misandry. Sexual harassment is bad coming from anyone to anyone, as is abuse etc, honestly Mindy needs therapy and definitely not her own show.
She needs jail time
@@smellme6313 def
@@watsername Amen. You don't fight prejudice with prejudice and you don't fight sexism with sexism.
@@watsername I'm Sorry but she doesn't need Just therapy, she needs to be judged as equal as Man going on a talkshow and saying he kissed a married woman by force, as a joke no less
This video, unlike Velma, is worth the rewatch.
Agreed. Every time i see a TLP re-up, I watch it through to help the youtube algorithm :P
Same here, rewatch is still good.
damn straight
I'm doing my part!
PERIODT
Shaming Fred for not going through puberty is really bodyshamey. That's an actual condition people go through and I feel bad for them that they have to see a show making fun of them in a cruel way.
Literally every teen boy has gone through a self image issue with how puberty treats them (especially at the start) but no one cares cuz lmao they’re boys, it’s actually disgusting
Yeah, Velma’s a total bitch.
He‘s a white cis male tho so it‘s fine
@@koopa5504 no no it's not
@@kayakat1869 nowadays most people think it is
"Bad writing is almost always a love poem addressed by the self to the self. The person who will admire it first and last and most is the writer herself."
~Toby Litt
Yea a lot of the time when I watch reviews of bad shows or movies I notice they sound like something I'd write on wattpad as a teen
As a german I have to say that I am relieved this show exists, together with She Hulk and the Star Wars movies by Disney it might bump us out of the top three worst human rights atrocities ever commited in the history of humankind.
Germany has already redeemed itself when Porsche announced they're trying to save ICE's by making e-fuel!
💀
We can but hope
YO! BURN!!! 😂😂😂😂
This might be one of the funniest comments on TH-cam
Pretty sure if a teenage boy had written this, we'd have called him far worse things than merely incel. This is next level shti
a teenage boy who just discovered mascara would probably still be less edgy and meta than this thing that doesn't deserve to be called a show
@@zogwort1522 can we just vote to just give them California? Then we can take California out of the United states and they can have their paradise.
I mean you know darn well they wouldn't last a month but it'd be funny to see.
@@laravioliiii2832 how that even got on HBO is mindblowing. I think most of the world would've been fine if they changed Dafney and Fred. They wouldn't have needed to write entirely new characters to accomplish that. But to change the two characters who literally empathizes the phrase "white people sht" is something that's hard to comprehend how someone actually came up with something so blasphemous. Why even have the "scooby doo" label when it has nothing to do with scooby doo. Unless someone is just trying to make money off of the scooby doo license which, if that's the case. Someone needs to be fired.
If a teenage boy had written this I’m sure he could do better than this, actually anyone that’s not an unfunny raging narcissist could do better than this
@@zogwort1522 yes there’s no such thing as morality in straight white men to these people, meanwhile anyone of color, and especially anyone of not hetero/not white can not possibly be immoral
"He's had two dimensions, but only one at a time."
This quote is hilarious to me.
There are clips of Mindy talking about how Velma was someone she could look up to when she was a little girl. Imagine any little kid of any demographic group looking up to anybody in this show.
How the hell did Mindy Kaling get a career in movies and tv? Meritocracy in the entertainment industry is dead.
But it is meritocratic! The casting couch's ability to distinguish the most skilled actresses from the sincere actresses has been used as the industry standard model for ensuring the best writers and cinematographers.
She just filled in the niche of the "I am not like other girls(Skinny/Model Types)"
Meritocracy is an utopia. Normally morons get power just because they rich.
Colored.
She is very competent, because she has a darker skincomplexion. Why is this somehow important? To show virtue in the public and to fulfill ESG-criteria. The Problem? Well, the focus is not to make a good show, but who cares about that nowadays?
The fact that HBO still tries to surpress any form of criticism is... Is quite astounding. We've given them whooping, and they still try to salvage it in the only way they know how... It's weirdly mortifying.
Its like theyre trying to go bankrupt to hide any illegal actions from behind the scenes
you call it mortifying i call it pathetic
they're just being spiteful bitches because thats what they are after all haha.
Sometimes you just gotta keep teaching the old man a lesson. Maybe next time it'll be biting the concrete.
You know what they say (since the meatcanyon wabbit season takedown); if the company itself tries to put your video down, it means its canon.
Aka, all criticism expressed in this video is 100% on point
"Don't watch this show. Do something more useful with your time ... Sit and stare at a wall in silence for an hour."
Don't know why this got me laughing, but here we are.
What's funny is that no one actually dies in the show, even the girls who's brains been removed still survive as brains in a jar.
This show is a murder mystery without the murder.
The show would immediately be better if every single character was murdered. Because then it could end.
Did the Jar turn into a Mary Sue Girl Boss moaning about people trying to put things in her, looking through her being full of cheap booze and then leaving her on the shelf .
I’m horrified she remembered what she did to her mother and felt BETTER ABOUT IT.
This sociopath probably is actually the killer.
Well yeah she knew that she choose to leave and wasn't taken,I'd feel better too
Yups. D:
@@origamipein18 but wouldn't it be bettwe that way anyway? I mean would you feel relieved to know that your mother left at least by choice and want forceably taken away?
@@divine555 Yes.
I'm pretty sure that's going to be the weak twist at the end.
That, or "just some aßhole", where they just pick a random nobody who appears in the background twice in total over the whole length of the season, and just foam them in with less than zero lead-up.
They might even go WTD all the way, and make the waitress's fetus be the killer.
Velma is the "....this show ruined my childhood" meme made reality.
Also, regarding the re upload: "When you tear out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say."
Keep up the sterling work, Mr. Platoon.
This is so far away from everything else scooby doo, it's honestly not.
It's like those parody shows where the characters are actually very distinct to avoid being sued by the actual IP holders
Scooby-Doo was your childhood??
Is it though? The Star Wars sequels? They are explicitly sequels in the same universe that retroactively damage the characters, integrity, accomplishments, and even the metaphysics of the preceding movies, so you could say they ruin something all right. The newest Terminator movie? It literally kills John Connor to replace him with a wet sock of a girl and make it into a girl power movie, completely erasing the previous continuity and making everything achieved in Terminator 2 pointless, so that's also ruined all right.
Velma is an alleged prequel to a show from the 70s that's also set in the present day, starring race-bend characters who share nothing with the originals other than the names and some surface level similarities in appearance, it doesn't follow the series' monster-of-the-week formula, the characters don't travel around, and there's not even a dog named Scooby Doo in it. These two things simply don't exist in the same universe, so it's hard to get really worked up about it from that angle, so I don't see how it retroactively ruins the original.
@@darrengordon-hill Scooby Doo has been in TV for the past 60 years, and I can remember at least 3 distinct series and several movies that kicked off in the late-90s and early 2000s that shaped a LOT of peoples' childhoods. Scooby Doo isn't exactly obscure - maybe you didn't watch it, but it's unlikely you haven't heard of it. It held a lot of fond memories for people, and it was usually a fun experience. I don't see this example as exactly wrong.
@@darrengordon-hill There’s been a lot of recent Scooby Doo shows, I don’t know where you’ve been.
Remember when cartoons used to make you feel good inside
Just around 2013
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Some still do.
I don't know why the clearly gay men from our youth, like schroeder in peanuts, are never outed. Meanwhile lesbianism is forced on any female character that wasn't excessively 'hot' or even worse Was hot but was smart or even accomplished in any other way.
So if you're not hot And putting out, you must be a lesbian. Those are the only options. Pretty fundy religious and anti female if you ask me.
Maybe they mistook funny cartoon for fundy?
The fact that this has scored 1.3/10 on IMDB somewhat restores my faith in humanity.
It's sad that the guy voicing Fred's dad in this show is the original voice actor Fred (and he's been voicing him for decades).
i'm glad he got paid, i'm sorry it had to be for this....
This comment made me legitimately sad in the same why seeing the actor for Luke from Star Wars talk about the sequels. I feel bad for the voice actor of Fred to have a part is his legacy mocked.
Maybe he’s helping his millenials kids buy a house ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The only good part about this show
He also voice Dr. Claw, Megatron, Nibbler, nearly every animal who doesn't talk in English in Disney movies from the 90's (e.g. Abu), Santa's Little Helper, etc.
His credit list is insane.
Scooby was left out cause he have standards
Scoob was invited to be a part of the series, but was still in therapy, trying to get over Velma's increasingly desperate attempts to mount him, in am attempt to get over her crippling self-induced loneliness...
It's likely deliberate; they knew this was going to be a train wreck so they left him out in order to protect the brand.
@@thenerdbeast7375 If they wanted to protect the brand then why make it in the first place?
@@thenerdbeast7375 That's pretty much the truth. They couldn't get the rights to use the character. It's the same reason their stupid wannabe Shaggy is called Norville.
@@mattpace1026veryone do be forgetting that shaggy’s real canon name is norville. This is in no way defending this dumpster fire of a show, I’m just pointing it out
Velma feels like a really bad fanfiction that makes you wanna drop the story by the first sentence.
This show feels like literal psychological warfare.
It's not even worth hate watching.
What I hate about these "mature" adult shows is that they usually pointlessly portray the characters as jerks. Like adults can't relate to people who are kind to each other or anything.
Honestly a lot of adult shows I have heard of just kind of don’t even feel like an actual adult show but what a kid would consider an adult show
Yeah.
"Close enough" by creators of Regular Show, is an example of a good adult show. The family of the main characters is actually functional and is based on love and support. Imagine this in today's day and age.
These are usually made by rich post-college hipsters who still have a fragment of their straw goth phase stuck in their heads where they're convinced that the world is one big sinful spithole where there's no such thing as innocence and generosity. Their idea for humanity is that everybody wants to screw everybody else over for some benefit, including you the reader, but this is mostly so that they can have an excuse and guilt free self-justification to screw others over themselves.
Even Infinity Train is more mature than that. Actually, Infinity Train could get brutal and I still prefer it!
I love having my favourite childhood cartoons destroyed and violated just because someone had issues while growing up and decided to pour them into a script...
Why can't things be like they were in the early 2000s?
>Why can't things be like they were in the early 2000s?
Because parasites wont stop until the victim is dead.
Yeah, at least back then when they tried adaptations for the most part the worst they got was well meaning but incompetent.
Now we have…this turd. The only value gained from it is enjoyment of togetherness brought on by how universally shit it is.
more like 1990 please, all the revolution of the CGI and creativity without the stupid and corporate greed of today.
Back then, people like Mindy were featured on shows like Jersey Shore and Jerry Springer...
Now, the people that used to be "featured" ON morally egregious shows, are the ones making them.
Read: The morally vapid producers of Jersey Shore, etc - weren't mentally capable of sinking low enough for a "modern" audience.
#Progress
Mindy Kaling poured her issues into the script then she dropped the script into the worst toilet in Scotland. Reached in. Pulled it back out. Then said "There's your fu**ing dancer!"
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Not one " joke " from Velma has even budged my sense of humor an inch.
Your " gagging " but actually cracked a smile for me.
I feel bad for the animators. They deserved a better script.
and voice actors, mainly Frank Welker, who had to see what they did to his character
At least all the hate has properly gone to Mindy and the showrunner. Probably helps that Mindy has been the face of it from the start, and her accusations that people are just racist. Just about everything but the writing has been praised. Animation, acting, sound design. People like those.
Yeah for real though, most of the show was absolute trash but the animation was amazing during certain scenes. Too bad they won't get the credit they deserve because of crap writing.
Velma makes rings of power look like a well thought out and loving adaptation.
fr, I would watch Rings of power 10 times over instead of the velma series
Bwahaha! Sad, but true.
AHAHA
Omg lol almost 😂
OOF lmao
They false flagged the original. I have to applaud them on their dedication both to destroying culture and breaking the law, it's impressive if nothing else.
FOR REAL!?
@@afloofyvixen9514 yep. Platoon mentioned it in the followup
Honestly, calling a paper guillotine a computer keyboard is much funnier than anything in Velma and it wasn't even intentional, then you made it actually funny with the text. Bravo. Hopefully HBO doesn't nuke you again because they really need to take some of the critique on board...
never in my life did I think I would be told to go boil an egg and think "yeah, that sounds nicer than watching Scooby Doo."
Hey, you get a boiled egg out of it. They taste quite nice with salt and pepper, or certain kinds of sauce, rice, and meat cooked in a certain way if you feel adventurous.
Shaggy's name has always been Norville going back to the original series. Norville Rogers. He comes from old money. Fred is actually from a middle class background.
People just see Fred's ascot and assume he's rich. And yet we're supposed to be the shallow ones.
Daphne was the rich one xD
She have even castles in Scotland
@@SapoWeonN300 But if Daphne was the rich one we couldn't have the """"""hilarious jokes"""""" about "rich white man dumb and has smol pp XDDDDDDD"
@@SapoWeonN300 Daphne's family is of Scottish ancestry yes and she does have allot of money and does point it out allot, but the others are not short on cash either, Norville's ancestors are from English ancestry and his Uncle Shagsworth paid to ship a castle from England to America, plus the Pup series Norville's father was the chief of police. Velma's family are high paid workers in the scientific field.
Yes Norville is his Civilian name, Shaggy is but a nickname, allot of people don't seem to realize that for some reason.
Aside from how “guys selling stuff to emotionally blackmail girls into dating them” isn’t really a common enough thing to actually be recognizable, I’d put “lesbo cops good at solving crimes” right next to that. I have no idea what this showman writers have been consuming to have formed whatever views on the world and pop culture they have.
Honestly from the little I’ve seen of law&order unless it’s changed in the later season I don’t ever remember seeing a lesbian cop but the scraps I’ve watched have been from the earlier seasons so that’s likely a factor but everyone was good at their job so even my limited knowledge doesn’t line up with Velma
Yeah. Boys trying to get on girls' good side via gifts sure, but the whole blackmail thing? More like the girls stringing the poor nice guy along to milk his naivety. That's a much more common trope ... or a trope/cliche at all. In my experience.
HBO: by "solving crimes" we meant shooting children in their homes...
@@givmi_more_w9251 the closest thing to the blackmail part i remember is one episode of hannah montana where a character holds the knowledge to a secret of miley cyrus to do some things like getting a kiss
@@givmi_more_w9251 If it is as simple as boys getting on girls good side via gifts thing I've actually seen it before. I see gifts as a way of getting on people's good side and attracted to them or not I've had gifts turned down for that exact reason. I've always laughed at it, like dude do you really think because you had a bad day and I bought you a bag of chips you're obligated to do literally anything for me? It's chips. Tf. But I mean yeah if you like someone and they want something you might get that thing for them.
The fact that the flush joke was the first thing that made me laugh watching this show undid about four years of therapy for me💀
You can’t make good entertainment without sincerity, nor
can you make it with spite.
Mindy gives out a big thank you to the shareholders of HBO Max for making some of her high school revenge fantasies come true at last.
Unlike the writers of She-Hulk, Mindy Kaling is actually self-aware enough to ... love her own narcissism, making her a "meta-narcissist"?
Yep. Imagine living with someone like her? Ugh.
Weirdly enough, i'd rather watch through 8 episodes of She-Hulk than even 1 second of this shit. It's telling, really.
@@FrancisCastiglione A terrifying prospect, but I hear you.
@@alexfriedman918 It is indeed, but it's like facing off against a dragon vs facing off against an incromprehensible eldritch beast. I'd much rather take on the dragon.
The worst kind of narcissist.
“The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own." - JRR Tolkien
This show has the same energy of someone saying “I’m a good person”.
If you cut out someone's tongue you are not proving that they are a liar. You're proving you're afraid of what they might say
I feel like it gets glossed over far to often, so I'm gonna just point out that the shower scene is full of UNDERAGED GIRLS. This IS high school, after all. So if you're showing a bunch of that and then saying "sex sells", you truly are deplorable.
That's what keeps getting me too. I commented about it in the last video and this one, but yeah, seems like that part just kinda gets ignored, and I feel like that's probably the biggest offender here. Awful lot to unpack on that one. Mindy might have a little dirt she needs to let out.
Tell that to Japanese anime.
@@SirBlackReeds "Japanese anime" is an oxymoron. Anime is Japanese.
@@SirBlackReeds I can. Easily. Japanese creators should be more aware of the wider world and that their concent laws and what may be acceptable there is not in the western world. Keep in mind, however, creators will reserve the right to show what would be allowed in their area. If you don't want to bend to a country's rules, you don't have to. For example, if American creators constantly bowed to China's rules when it came to media, well, there's a reason South Park is banned in China.
At least in certain animes, there is far better censorship than there is here. Heck, even some hentai has better censorship. But I do agree that any sphere of media should not show kids in the buff or sexualize them. Problem being, though, the rules of your country are not the rules of the world. I'm not saying it's any less disturbing. All media should be accountable for what it does wrong or disturbing for international audiences.
But we aren't talking about anime. We are talking about a self aware adult cartoon. A show that has AMERICAN roots. No argument can be made of a different age of consent law or a difference in culture, again, not saying it's an excuse. This was made by an adult, cognitive of the laws and social rules in the country they reside. They broke those rules and this filth was given the okay, shamelessly. There should be repercussions for such things.
@@honeyeggs9145 I believe you mean redundant. An Oxymoron is two words of opposite meaning make a single phrase. Student teacher, freezer burn, jumbo shrimp, etc.
I think one of the worst parts is the voice actor for Fred's Father is the guy who voiced Fred in the old Scooby-Doo cartoons.
Are you talking about Frank welker? because if you are then he voices fred
its ironic how raceswapping is seen generally as ok when the character's race doesn't matter to their personality, but here we have a raceswap where they made the new race is a big part of the character's personality
No, race swapping is seen as ok when they go from white to anything else
I think the problem with race swaps nowadays is we *know* they're done for political reasons because they tell us that. The other day I read someone ask a question: why, if race swaps are so bad, did comic book fans not complain about Michael Clarke Duncan being cast as Kingpin in the Daredevil movie? It's because they just did it and didn't issue self-congratulatory press release about how they're fully committed to diversity. In the 1989 Batman movie Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent and similarly no one cared.
I feel like it depends on how it's exactly done.
I just realized why does Fred go to a run down school if he's rich. 😐
jesus shit somehow no one has mentioned this in the like 50 reviews of this show
@@GuiltlessGear to be fair, there is SOOOO much shit it probably passes by unnoticed until someone mentions it
Hmmm.. "to broaden his horizons?
Obviously laziness on the writers part
@@funlover163 if that's the case they send him abroad to like Italy or something for boarding school
Yeah, rich people don’t send their kids to public school.
“Because comedy” is far more funny than any joke said in Velma.
This show is clearly an adult show but only "adult" in the ways that a child thinks is adult.
Honestly this show just makes me appreciate the older cartoons even more. And heck, the live action duology too. At least those movies tried to make the characters accurate.
honestly I enjoyed the live action stuff it may not be great but it was fun and like you said at least the characters felt like they were in line with the older shows
There was joy in it. There was having fun. I gotta rewatch them again. I’ve been rewatching all the movies I can. Frankenweenie is just amazingly fun.
_"Normally, origin stories are about tall handsome guys struggling with the burden of being handed even more power"_
I have no clue what world the writers are living in, to comprehend how they thought that line would make any sense at all.
Yeah like this Bruce Wayne guy... I mean sure his parents got murdered in cold blood in front of him when he was just a child, and the city he lives in is perpetually in danger of being overrun by crime, but did you know he was HUWHITE, and MALE, and RICH?!
The pure vitriol of envy and jealousy in this statement has a certain comedic value. If it weren't told unironically.
I don't want to pull the "misandry" card. In my world, no group of people should be beyond parody and satire, and there are the "spoiled rich brats". But this is just mean-spirited, childish, and most important for parody/satire: unfunny.
The only thing that comes to mind from recent pop culture is superhero origins. Batman, Superman, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor etc., all portrayed by (admitedly) good looking actors and all of them gaining "more power" as their story progresses... completely, however, glossing over the sacrifices and struggles that often come with them
@@johnmihelis1699 One could make the point that the power being bad was really Iron Man's origin. Tony Stark giving up the power and money was the cause of Steyn's attempt to kill him after all
They literally just make up stereotypes and then are like "Remember this well-known stereotype? We definitely didn't make it up!"
Apparently Hermione is supposed to be JK Rowling writing herself into a book. Sometimes the self insert works. But Mindy is a terrible person so inserting herself into anything is a bad idea
Writers do it all the time.
Horatio Hornblower= C.S. Forrester
Luke Skywalker= George Lucas
Andy Dufrene= Stephen King
I do it too. The trick is to be brutally self-critical when you do, or at least be willing to put your own faults into your characters. Luke is impatient, naive, whiny.
Hornblower is tone deaf, often aloof, cold, fatalistic, filled with self-doubt.
Dufrene is a antisocial soft spoken recluse, comes off snobby, a dork.
All my self inserts are often the biggest butt of the joke.
Point, you show the not so likeable stuff so when they do heroic stuff they seem like real people. Because, in essence they ARE real people....their creators, warts and all!
The thing about Hermione is that she gets admonished time and again with how she acts towards her peers (less about her actual intellect and more about her nature as a nagger) among her other shenanigans
@@JamesRDavenport
Jo March,( Louisa May Alcott) Nick Caraway,(F Scott Fitzgerald) Huckleberry Finn,(Mark Twain)and Elizabeth Bennet(Jane Austen) are a few more good examples I can think of.
@@asalways1504 Absolutely!
That makes me feel so
Much better about this self insert situation. Writers giving their self inserts flaws, and NOT making them the main character
Velma getting hit by a frisbee was actually the first 'joke' in this that made me even slightly smirk. The rest... how did this get through all the steps required to make a TV and actually air it and no one at all stood up and questioned it...?
What the Velma show achieved: Provided numerous opportunities for us to discuss plot writing, humor, and the horrors of Hollywood greenlighting anything.
I died lauging at the "that's how the police work, you get arrested accused of murder and then become a detective to exonerate yourself" :D:D
I’m surprised how many people don’t know that Norville was always Shaggy’s real name. That’s not to defend the show considering that’s pretty much the only thing it bothers to have actually match the previous shows/movies.
Still not Shaggy though, he doesn't even eat huge amounts of food, it's what he loves.
And it would be nice if it was their own children doing the mystery and a new dog.
Tbf His real name was very rarely mentioned. The only reason I knew about it was because he mentioned it in the third straight to video movie, Alien Invaders.
@@lalehiandeity1649I learned it from watching mystery inc.
Yeah I was going to comment on this too, Shaggy's real name is actually Norville, but even then like someone else had mentioned he doesn't even act like Shaggy at all.
Shaggy's real name has always been Norville. If that ever helps in a pub quiz, you're welcome!
Cruel and spiteful is a pretty good way to describe this 'reboot'
I love this guy's voice. He sounds like the cynical genius gremlin with glasses from Gremlins two, you know, the one, the gremlin that sang New York, New York.
Why would they take down the video, there is not a single soul that doesn't hate this show. What are they trying to do, keep potential viewers away from bad reviews? But EVERYBODY KNOWS THE SHOW IS TRASH
it's not the bad review it's the content of the video and comments discussions about the WHY it's bad and what it represents.
i guess they're afraid they'll lose those 10 contrarians watching the show to feel special
@@theflyingkaramazovbrothers6 this. If "this show is bad" is all you know, you might watch it just to see what's the whole fuss is about. "There's no plot, no humor, no taste, there's body horror with a pregnant woman and the show disregards anxiety as an actual medical condition and it mocks traffic accidents that involve toddlers", how many people would want to watch that?
@@Obmenistrator It's even better when you check all the boxes so when people do start saying, It's really bad, they can just exploit their diverse cast more than they already have by saying, "You racist, you homophobe, you sexism, you ableist, you xenophobic, you probably votes trumps, you baby. We do good, you bad oppressor, I'm like million dollars bigger than you, shut up."
@@Obmenistrator Actually I would love to watch that, IF it was that surreal and therefore well-created and funny (along the lines of Metalocalypse, Venture Bros, South Park, The Mighty Boosh, Monty Python). But this, this is none of those things.
You get arrested for murder, you become a detective and you exonerate yourself.
"You see officer, _you're_ the murderer. Take yourself away."
I have to give "Velma" credit: the idea that a baby would be posing in the womb as his/her mother takes nude maternity photos is...pretty hilarious (though from the clips, I can't tell if the execution matched the concept). Legit, when I was pregnant, I used to have dreams that I could feel my kid's fingers and hand and _hold_ them _through_ my stomach (guess my skin was pretty flexible?), then wake up and be like, "Oh wait...that was a dream."
Ironically, I have the feeling that the majority of the production team is probably _not_ pro-life, but they accidentally "humanized" the unborn child. BTW, you can _totally_ tell the kid's personality _before_ they're born, even w/o a photoshoot.
That's a really good point lol I'm 36 weeks with my 3rd now, and was definitely put off by how much the writers seem to hate children.
Pregnancy dreams are something else! My dreams about my kiddos are usually accurate, especially if I dream about their gender. I knew my daughter would be firey, and my son would be mellow. Not sure about this kid in utero, however. But I think that's because he's an adopted embryo. It's really interesting :)
Legit?? Literally? facts 😂😂😂😂
I love your comment. :)
Yeah. I'm too young to be a parent, but I saw several news articles of a FETUS, flipping off her mother through the ultrasound. A fetus, I tell you.
I guess comedy is subjective and I'm not usually the best judge of what is or is not funny, but I strongly doubt the comedic potential of a baby posing in the womb. Either way, they just show it and expect us to laugh.
When the dude pointed out that Fred looks like Hitler, you could hear it in his voice that he totally lost steam and didn't even want to finish the line. "And not because we compare everyone...". Not even the voice actors wanted to say this joke.
"I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling TH-cam reviewers. Oh, and the existence of minimal standards of taste, decency and critical thought. They were involved too." -- Velma
Let’s just see who’s under this race-swap brownface rubber mask. Why, it’s Mindy Kaling, aspiring entertainer and Hollywood pariah.
oh and those white guys, because in movies and shows, the white guys are the one who wins. (since haha meta jokes funny)
"You can't have a nightmare if you never dream."
Velma is definitely a self insert character and it's super obvious
Starting 2023 with bangers like Velma…Definitely one of the shows ever made.
As the Red Letter Media guys call this time of year "F You It's January!".
Like, zoinks, man! They’re beginning to Skoob.
indeed...
Of all time.
Picturing James Sunderland thinking about Velma while looking lost, confused and miserable is likely far funnier than anything in the show itself. I'm imagining that happening sometime after the 'Leave' ending. He was a Scooby fan all along and the real tragedy happens after the game. Ha ha ha!
Thank you for your choice of username and profile picture.
If they were going to make a solo story featuring only Velma, what they could have done was put her in a situation where the gang gets caught up in another mystery and an incident occurs where Shaggy, Daphne and Fred suddenly disappeared/get abducted/spirited away and her and Scooby are the only survivors. I'm not expecting this to be like Stranger Things/ Gravity Falls 2.0, but it sounds like a better idea than this reboot, which was obviously made to spite fans of the original.
This would be much better
There is a live-action film that centers around Daphne and Velma that was made by the Tisdales' own Blondie Girl Productions.
It was meant to be just a Velma Origins Story, meaning before she even meet the gang, the Gang got dragged in later on because people were angry about the first tease showing Velma as East-Asian. If anything an Origins Story kinda decanonizes the fact that Velma has know the gang since Elementary school because A-Pup-Named Scooby-Doo is considered canon origins.
That or have it start off as a CANON origin story for Velma and slowly lead into the formation of Mystery Incorporated as the series finale that leads into the rest of the Scooby Doo canon.
@@UltraEpicLeader10020 Be a bit tough to lead into the rest of the scooby-doo canon, when the Scooby-Doo canon chronologically starts with A-Pup-Named-Scooby when they were all in Elementary, and also the fact the rest of the canon is completely different character origins.
Just wanted to say that shaggys real name was always Norvell.
18:30 This leads me to belive the Kaling hates herself. The fact she voices her own self-insert grinds my gears.
Back again to re-watch a critique/breakdown video of a TV programme I will never, ever watch…sums up the past few years of entertainment for me.
Keep up the great work Little Platoon!
Surely you're the problem...
Inside Job was a good adult animated show.... aaand it was just cancelled.
Yep. Along with other youtubers giving us the consumer awareness that we need these days.
I don't mind listening to the soothing voice of The Little Platoon deliver a scathing critique of this show again.
truly the show of all. l got goosebumps when she said "it's velma time" and velmad all over
This show hurts me deeply because I follow many artists who work here as animators and character designers and they're great and did a fantastic job.
The fact that a show THIS bad actually got released is wild to think about. There seems to be so many shows and movies made to be bad that I feel like the creators are challenging us on how little they have to try and still make money with their work.
Something similar is happening in the video game industry btw *cough* pokemon.
Nah man, this is worse than what Pokemon does.
With Pokemon you can tell that at least the "grunts" making the product want to make something good but the higher ups dont give them the time and resources needed to make that product they want.
With these TV shows you can tell nobody gives a shit.
@@Klonoahedgehog took the words of my mouth, I'm a Pokémon fan, and even if there is notable rushes to make games, there is certain passion behind them.
them: "it's not FOR you!" "it's not SUPPOSED to be good" "If you don't like it, DON'T watch it" "Incel toxic huwhite cis man baby!"
me: OK, I'll just give my (ad) dollars to content creators roasting your trash instead. And please go fuck yourselves.
Firefly got cancelled, but this abomination gets a second season...
Modern Pokémon is disappointing because Gamefreak refuses to allow the games to grow up alongside their audience, preferring to pander to the next generation of kids, and because they’ve gotten lazy and only make bare minimum improvements with each installment. However, I don’t feel as though they actively hate the franchise or it’s fans. That’s the feeling you clearly get from Velma.
The marvellous thing about putting society's monsters in the media is not only do we know where they are but they voluntarily remind us what they are.
Genius!
To my amazement, Norvell WAS Shaggys name. Shaggy is a nickname.. The Fact Velmas show writers even knew that means they DID do some research.....
The jokes you created for this video are better than any comedy attempted in the Velma show.
Of all the adult animated series ever made, Velma is definitely one of them
ONE OF THE WORST
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
It sure exists!
Is it one of them? I am still hoping I may have hallucinated the whole nasty experience!
To be fair, Velma is possibly in the top 20,000 animated series.
@@incomingincoming1133 Top 20,000 HBO Max animated series?
I can't help thinking that the one audience this show might end up appealing to is the one it most hates, i.e. people who genuinely like nude shower scenes, chick fights, lesbians, off-colour jokes, gorey horror, etc. It would be wonderfully ironic if the show became a hit amongst the one audience it has tried to take the piss out of.
“It seems today, that all you see, is violence in movies and sex on tv”
the toilet flushing while she was trying to talk made me chuckle. The first time it flushed.
It got old already on the second one.
And I probably only chuckled because I'm watching the review and not the actual show. I think I'd have been numbed by that point.
Honestly the critique is so good I don't mind watching it twice.
What did you learn?
The worst a-holes I remember from high school were nothing compared to this. All these characters are snarky, cruel, spiteful and mean spirited.
Yeah! The kind that no one would like, and instead would get utterly beaten to death in the school parking lot.
And I fully agree with you having graduated 7 years ago.
This is the first one of your videos I've found, and I gotta say, I love your voice. It's instantly been added to my list of sleep videos. Also, this show sucks BAD. I saw you made 2 videos on it, when I'm awake I'll totally watch the second one
This is a society without God.
I'm beginning to think Kelly from The Office was a self-insert as well. Vapid, self-centered and completely lacking self-awareness seems to be a running theme with Kaling.
Sexually assaulting people too, she does that too
Of course Kaling just played her horrid self in The Office. She was the most unlikeable character on the show …
she always gave me that feeling, yeah. even as i youngin' i could sense something foul about her.
WB is really happy about this aren't they.
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Warner Brothers is not canonizing it, they are still producing regular Mystery Incorporated movies with the True Canon designs, I think they are not pleased about it but just got stuck seeing the contract was signed before it shifted towards fan-hating.
You are so crual reminding us such a disaster we GoT :(
Watching a waffle stand on its own only to fall down in seconds is funnier than the humor in Velma.
The "you just hate everything" argument is getting really old now a days especially since almost everything is complete garbage. Great video man!
To be fair Shaggy's actual name is Norville.
This is a lovely and diligent criticism towards a show which really can’t use enough of it. It really is mind blowing the amount of people who worked together to produce this and those who funded it. Really one of the more atrocious and bewildering achievements in digital entertainment, not to mention the fact that they shat all over a beloved, classic show
Shaggy’s real name in the original is actually Norville, everyone just calls him Shaggy. I guess they decided to discard the nickname in Velma for some reason.
18:00 Im surprised the list of people who are "allowed" to deal drugs doesnt include chemistry teachers with family who get diagnosed with lung cancer. That would have actually made her reference something real that people generally know about.
I was waiting for something I could relate to Walter white and when there wasn’t one, I know this show was written poorly
In the '90s, Anne Geddes was very popular for her photos of babies dressed as vegetables. Maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember that.
We can be ancient together, because I also remember those Anne Geddes photos. 😄😄
Amazing how they manage to turn innocent and charming programs without bias into vulgar displays of self righteousness without a care in the world. Self respect has been diminished aggressively in this society.
This is what happens when we stop reading books as a society, or perhaps never grow past "teen" books. Smh.
This show is racist, toxic, and pathetic.
Norville Rogers is Shaggy's actual name, Shaggy is a nickname the mystery gang uses to refer to him.
If I hear one of them mention TV tropes one more time, I'm going to lose it. I actually got a bit miffed after the 9th or 10th example lol
Glad to see the re-up!
This show 'Velma' just shows me just how sick our society has become. Right there on the screen. These people are SICK!
I… ADORE your channel. You speak for us. You speak with class while doing it. I love you man. Truly. I hope all is well.