Derwent Watercolour Pans?! | Are they Better than Inktense?

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  • @thefrugalcrafter
    @thefrugalcrafter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I have wondered about the Derwent watercolors. Thanks for showing them in action!

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You're welcome! I'm surprised you haven't tried them yet! Lol. Thanks for watching, Lindsay!

    • @thefrugalcrafter
      @thefrugalcrafter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @CautionArtistatPlay honestly, I am kind of afraid they might disappoint me and I love Derwent products so I don't want to review them for that reason 😅

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @thefrugalcrafter, haha! I don't blame you. I was worried about the same thing! I still don't think they are a must-have, but I was pleasantly surprised.

    • @TheRedundantArtist
      @TheRedundantArtist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @thefrugalcrafter as you are someone with such a vast knowledge of watercolour and has tried so many different paints, these will probably disappoint you. They are very chalky, the palette itself doesn’t latch properly. Very over priced on the Derwent website. I can see no difference between these and the inktense.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah, I agree the price point could be better. I think it really comes down to expectations. I went into it knowing fully that these weren't going to be a high end artist-grade watercolor. I was curious to see just how close they were to the Inktense, I was relieved that they at least behaved a bit differently in water. But boy, do they like alike when dry. Other than the fact that the watercolors might be a bit smoother in some areas. It's one of those things that I think if you are happy with Inktense, there is no reason to run out to buy these.

  • @ChantelleArts
    @ChantelleArts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love how you review things, you manage to explain yourself so well, brilliant ☺☺

  • @ElizabethMayoleth
    @ElizabethMayoleth 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was surprised that they turned out with such a similar look, I like both pieces. I have the inktense pans (and pencils, and blocks, I know, probably overkill!) and I have an 8 pan set of Derwent pastels. They are super matte and chalky when dry. I was wondering about the watercolors and am so glad you reviewed them. Thanks for these videos, Shana!

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're welcome, Elizabeth! Thank you for watching! I am not judging, I have the blocks, pencils, and pans, too! You are in good company! Haha. I haven't tried their pastel paint pans, having looked at them online, I am not surprised to hear that they are super matte. I figured they probably would be! Thanks for letting me know!

  • @julie8521
    @julie8521 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I looked at these watercolours. In my opinion they are water soluble paints rather than traditional watercolours. They’re quite opaque and don’t flow or blend very well. I think they’re quite expensive for craft quality paints. Another factor to consider is whether the replacement pans are available to buy individually. The Inktense have different qualities and uses so are different from other mediums and I enjoy using them for that reason. The pencils and blocks are available open stock but not sure about the small pans from the paintbox.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The pans are available open stock for both the Inktense and the watercolours. Which is definitely a bonus. I agree that they are not the highest end watercolour on the market. That's another reason why I would like to do another comparison video where I test them next to other watercolours that are of a similar price range.

  • @VENTMAUVAIS-b5i
    @VENTMAUVAIS-b5i 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i am very confident in you, i don't buy without watching if you have tried the product ; thanks for all

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I'm glad you find my reviews helpful! 🥰

  • @Anonymoi
    @Anonymoi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is so interesting to me! I have to admit that when I first saw this video, I thought, “no, no, you’re wrong. This is just Inktense renamed for a different market.” I have seen Derwent do that with Graphite/Graphitint XL. Then I looked and couldn’t find it available anywhere or on the Derwent website, so I was sure that was the case. But I see you did thorough research and addressed those issues. I guess more watercolors are about the last thing I need, though….

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, as of the time of this recording, they aren't available on the Derwent U.S. website yet, but they are available on the U.K. website! Since they are made there, they get the products before we do here in the U.S. and have different sites depending on which country you are in. Which can make it confusing for consumers! Here is the listing on the U.K. website: www.derwentart.com/en-gb/p/2306324/professional-products/paints/derwent-watercolour-paint-pan-24-set

  • @ml09baker8
    @ml09baker8 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They are now available on Amazon!

  • @claritzairosario68
    @claritzairosario68 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Shana! Ohhh...well, I love Derwent Inktense, they're so wonderful products! But when I see this comparison...I think both are doing a wonderful job, but, I love the watercolors side, because it look so much natural, more soft and obviously, more blendable than the Inktense pan paintings. I will love to try this Derwent Watercolors, but I really concerned about the lightfast ratings. I don't have the Inktense pan painting set, but I have the Inktense pencils and blocks, and I love them❤. Oh, I forgot something, the side of the Inktense pan painting, looks more opaque, and it's like you said, looks like gouache, and its so nice too😊❤ thanks to do this comparison Shana❤❤❤

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi there! Yeah, the water colors definitely had a more painterly, flowy quality to them. They are both fun to work with, though! I'm happy with how each piece came out, but I really loved working on the petals on the watercolor side. That was fun!

  • @ritawilbur6128
    @ritawilbur6128 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    THANK YOU for saying Inktense is kind of like gouache! People always say it's ink in solid form, and it is NOT! The revelation for me was when I used Inktense on black paper - it really did look like gouache! It's frikkin opaque! Could it be a dye-based gouache? Gouache-adjacent also explains why it dries so fast and has kind of a matte finish. And why the lighter colors like white and yellow dry more more opaque. But of course it doesn't lift easily like gouache. It's obviously not the same thing, and I really wish Derwent would be more transparent about what the heck this stuff is. But anyway, enough with my rant. The mystery remains....

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      According to the FAQ'S on the Derwent website, Inktense is pigment-based and not dye-based, though they can be used to dye things, so that confuses a lot of people too. It's just such a strange product that no one seems to know what they are! Haha! It's a mysterious product indeed! I think they combined qualities from a bunch of different media to formulate them!

    • @Anonymoi
      @Anonymoi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But ink can be opaque, too. I have no “horse in this race” and don’t really care if they are ink or not, but I am still sort of confused as to why they can’t be ink, but water-soluble like watercolor, and also opaque like gouache. It sort of sounds like it is just Derwent classifying them as a watercolor product for artists, not some industry standard determining they must be classified as something other than ink. What is it that would make them NOT ink? Or what is it which would make them ink, since (as I mentioned in response to another comment) ink can be pigment-based and water-soluble (and opaque.)

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Anonymoi All very good questions. I just looked up the difference between ink and watercolor, and honestly, I don't think it clears things up very much in reference to the way Inktense lay down. This is the first answer Google gave me "The difference between these two media colour-wise is that watercolour is particles of pigment suspended in water, and ink is more of a liquid stain. This means that the watercolour hues will mix more, while layered ink will make the new colour more with the light shining through the different layers" All I know is the fact that Derwent says that they are made to "look like" an Ink implies that they are not actually ink. If they were, I feel like they would have answered that question and explicitly
      stated that they were ink. Especially since most of their marketing has relied on people being under the impression that they were ink. They, as art supply manufacturers, know the difference better than most of us do. So, if they classify it as something other than ink, then it must be that they aren't actual literal ink. I don't know. The whole thing is very strange. I don't see why they couldn't very well be an ink, but I also don't see why if it was an ink, they wouldn't just say so. Artists use inks, too. It would only benefit them marketing wise to admit that they are ink, since most people buy them thinking that is the case to begin with. It's all very confusing.

    • @queenria7
      @queenria7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh, a nerdy discussion, I love it! 😀
      I made a ChatGPT inquiry, and the only possible reason I found is: ink needs to be liquid to be considered ink. Well, that makes sense. Ink is liquid, duh 😂 Inktense uses pigments as opposed to dye, and there are inks that are made of pigments as well, but there are no special "ink-pigments" that would make a product ink.
      Here are more details:
      - Traditional Inks are generally liquid from the start, designed to be applied with pens, brushes, or other applicators. The physical form of Inktense (as pencils and blocks) sets it apart from traditional inks.
      - Pigments only become "ink" once they are mixed into a liquid medium with appropriate binders and solvents. This formulation process defines the ink's properties, such as flow, drying time, and permanence.
      - Binding Agents: Inks use specific binding agents that help the pigment adhere to surfaces and remain stable once applied. These agents are crucial for defining the medium as ink rather than paint or another type of art material.
      Conclusion
      While the same pigments can be used in inks and other art mediums, their classification as "ink" comes from the specific formulation process. This process includes mixing the pigments with liquid binders and solvents designed to create a medium with the desired properties for writing, drawing, or printing.
      While modern products can blur the lines, traditional ink is defined by its liquid state, which is essential for its intended applications and performance characteristics.

    • @queenria7
      @queenria7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Rita for the tip about black paper!! I will definitely try this out!

  • @diannedupuis2960
    @diannedupuis2960 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great review! I love your videos.

  • @carltanner9065
    @carltanner9065 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They seem to be very similar and whilst I like both pics, I would tend to prefer the Inktense. Just looks that bit more colorful and vibrant. Though, if I were to buy either product I would be very happy with both.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Inktense are really vibrant! They are both great products, though. I agree you probably would be happy with either one! Thanks for watching!

  • @Kreative_Rainbow
    @Kreative_Rainbow 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Both of those flower paintings really pop!! 🌺 Nice comparison!! 👍

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!! 🥰

    • @Kreative_Rainbow
      @Kreative_Rainbow 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CautionArtistatPlay You are quite welcome! 🤗😍

  • @gabriellaritaart
    @gabriellaritaart 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would love to try these 😍

  • @queenria7
    @queenria7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oh interesting, I didn't know Inktense was officially classed as a watercolor product! People keep repeating they are ink 😆
    Thank you for doing thorough research! 👌

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was under that impression for the longest time as well! Then, a while back, someone mentioned in my comments that they weren't actually ink. So that's when I went to the Derwent website to investigate! You're welcome! Thanks for watching!

    • @Anonymoi
      @Anonymoi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CautionArtistatPlay This is interesting and raises questions in my mind. Is it all just semantics? They don’t say they are “watercolor-based” vs. “ink-based,” they just say they are classified as a watercolor product and appear like ink. So what actually IS ink, vs. a water-soluble pigment-based paint? Ink can be pigment-based and water-soluble, too. How is it that they “appear like ink” but aren’t actually ink? What would be needed to make them ink?

    • @ritawilbur6128
      @ritawilbur6128 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CautionArtistatPlay Oh that may have been me, haha! I've been banging this drum for a while. Seriously though, you have got to try the Inktense on black paper. It's a revelation! Then make a video about it, please! I have never seen anyone do a video of the Inktense on black paper. If you do it, you'll be the first!

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I personally love them regardless of what they are made of! But you wouldn't believe how passionate some of the comments on videos can be about this subject. Some people really do care, which is why I have to put the disclaimer in for clarification purposes when I talk about them, lol. And I think it's good to know the ins and outs of the products we are working with.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't recall if you mentioned it in my comments or not. If so, you were probably much nicer about it. There was one particular man who commented and wasn't very nice about it. It was probably a few years ago now, and that's the first comment that sticks out to me, and that's what really made me look into it. Either way, like many I was under the wrong impression about them for years, because of how they were marketed when they first came out, and because of how a lot of how other artists I watch on here describe them. I always try to be accurate in the information I give, so that's why when I talk about them now, I try to give all the information I can.

  • @DieterPrivate
    @DieterPrivate 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have the inktense pans already, and the meiliang watercolours and I like both. How would these compare to the meiliang ones? I'm considering to buy their 52 set with the pastels or this set.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have not tried the Meiling watercolors, so sadly, I can't speak to how they would compare. 😕

  • @Gypsisoul1111
    @Gypsisoul1111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have been curious about these as I am all about Derwent, but they seem so similar to Inktense, thank you for the review. As always your work is amazing. I love that you hang with Lindsay and Angela ❤

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much! 🥰 I'm glad you found this review to be helpful! I'm so glad to have met Angela and Lindsay! It's amazing to be friends with other artists who also do TH-cam. They are amazing! 🤩

  • @lozantoninocreations
    @lozantoninocreations 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm actually surprised you didn't know about these. I've been tempted for a year now to get the Derwent pastel set. I noticed the pastel colors weren't listed on the sheets you showed.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes! I have known about the pastel set for a long time! But that's its own product called "Pastel Shades Paint Pan Set" and have been around for a while. These are an entirely different product and are simply called "Watercolour Paint Pan Set." It's a different line of paints. There are no pastel tones in this set. There are a ton of different pan sets by Derwent, which are all essentially some sort of watercolor varient, but these are the first to be marketed simply as "watercolour."

  • @ClarkFineArt
    @ClarkFineArt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Loved how you did your bokeh background the watercolors do look like they blend well. Thank you so much for sharing this I have been very curious about trying these watercolors! I love the green in the background of the watercolor side! Was that straight color or did you mix that green? I didn't see a swatch that looked that dark, but it is lovely. Both of your poppies are wonderful! Is this watercolor palette one you would grab to go out on our next Plein Air adventure, or will you still reach for something else? I loved the way you lifted to add in leaves in the background, that worked very well! All the poppies we saw on our adventure were amazing, both of these were my favorite colors! Reliving the day through these pieces, great memories! Seeing both finished, the water color just looks a bit smoother in blending from your wet in wet washes, based on what I am seeing I love the look of the watercolor just slightly more than the inktense. I would be curious to see how these look in comparisons to watercolors like Cotman, Meilang (Paul Rubens student grade), and even the Meeden watercolors, but it would also be interesting to see them go head to head with some of the pro colors with similar qualities, these didn't look like fast movers and would be curious how they hold their own vs something like W&N pro (which IMO is a very "reliable" I will stay where you put my kind of professional watercolor, in relation to say their hyperactive cousin QoR. lol). Thank you so much for sharing this I think they will remain on the list of watercolors to try.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am curious to see how they hold up against other watercolors, too! I found it interesting how well they blended when I was working in the background. I wasn't trying for a smooth background because I knew I was going to do a bokeh anyway, so it was neat to see how the watercolor side flowed and blended itself on its own accord. The color for both backgrounds was mixed, I added a bit of black to each and used a combination of greens as well. I rarely work straight from the pan for things like that. For the vibrant color in the poppies, though, I mixed way less because I didn't want to muddy them and wanted them to pop! The funny thing about the pink poppy is that I changed the color on that one. The reference I was working from was from the really pretty peachy colored ones, but I changed it here so it could be more similar to the red one in value! I didn't have any really good pictures of the magenta colored ones, so I had to improvise. I might bring these on our next adventure so I can get more practice with them. If I do, I will let you try them!

  • @kathyhackney7950
    @kathyhackney7950 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Slightly left field, but, if anyone has the inktense pans, but wants the blocks, you can take the pans themselves out and draw with them like a tiny block.

  • @davidandrew3006
    @davidandrew3006 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Whats your stance on fixating art?

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you mean using a fixative?

    • @davidandrew3006
      @davidandrew3006 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CautionArtistatPlay Yeah. For me it enhances the saturation and improves the contrast most of the time, though some colours end up a bit too dark.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always add a protective coating on work that I plan to sell, and depending on the kind of fixative or varnish, it can definitely enhance the color saturation. I don't typically do it to work that's in my sketchbook, unless it's a medium that will smudge easy. A lot of fixatives have harmful fumes, and I am sensitive to the smell, so I don't want to smell it every time I open my sketchbook. Where as things outside of the book have ample space and time to air out, lol. It depends on the piece, though. I didn't even think to do it here because neither of these pieces is at high risk of smudging. But it probably would enhance the colors a bit if I did!

  • @robyounce644
    @robyounce644 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love the pieces. I own the inktense blocks so going to skip the watercolor

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, Rob! If you are happy with what you have, I don't see a huge reason to run out and grab the watercolor palette.

  • @joymiller9668
    @joymiller9668 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Compare it to faber castel w/c since they are always competing lol

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Omgosh, that would be perfect, but I donated my set of Faber-Castell watercolor pans a while back because I never used them!